Database Users

Battery problem, try this.

Preparing...
With the phone in the on position.
Fully charge the battery with the phone on... (until the led turns green.)
Once the led turns green, unplug the charger until the led goes off.
After the led goes off, plug the charger back in. When the led turns green , power off the phone.
now.... with the phone fully powered off...
1. Unplug the charger.
2. Wait until led goes off.
3. Plug charger back in until the led turns green. When it turns green, unplug the charger again and go to step 1.
4. repeat steps 1 and 3, 10 times. This may take anywhere from 30 seconds to 30 mins per cycle. Typically only about 1 minute. though.
DO NOT DRAIN THE BATTERY. The goal is not to empty the battery and recharge like ni-cads (those have memory, these don't). These are lithiums, so we need to do the opposite...

And lets all sing the hokie pokie and shout

The cells were not charged evenly, so each cell holds different charges. So when you charge it, 1 cell may be 95% another 100 and 98 etc... so when you balance the cells, they function like they are suppose to.
this phone does not have a cell balancer built into it.

So charge, wait til its almost dead, charge again til full, then do the process w the phone off?
-------------------------------------
Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App

I'm sorry this guide doesn't really make much sense. the led won't be on if the phone is unplugged so how will I know if its on Orange or not? also is the phone on or off when I'm doing this?
Sent from my PC36100 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

changed the instructions on top, i suck at writing.

I suppose this might explain why sometimes my phone plunges to about 90% almost immediately after taking it off the charger, but then battery decreases at a "normal" rate after that?

So were reconditioning our batteries...

I'm 99.9% sure the battery is single cell...it wouldn't make sense to have a dual cell 3.7v LiPo unless you wanted heavy discharge.
I don't see how this will make any charge other than the phone not topping the battery off...which in that case an external charger would do a much better job is so.

I tried this and my battery has been holding steady at 100% with the screen off for the last five minutes so something worked.

So is this a one time thing to re-condition the battery or will we have to do this more then once

Woah, voodoo magic here. Any proof of this working.....

SteelH said:
Woah, voodoo magic here. Any proof of this working.....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No proof yet. Take it or leave it.
It works for me. Test on your own. Seems pretty harmless to atleast try...

Ingesting.
I've heard of draining all the way and recharging a couple times but this is a new one lol..

tmidle8575 said:
I suppose this might explain why sometimes my phone plunges to about 90% almost immediately after taking it off the charger, but then battery decreases at a "normal" rate after that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this always happens to me since getting the phone. will give this harmless voodoo a try

kthejoker20 said:
No proof yet. Take it or leave it.
It works for me. Test on your own. Seems pretty harmless to atleast try...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's true, won't hurt anything. WTF I'll give it a try, maybe get proven wrong and learn something too..

I gave this a try and I must say that it is working. Before I did this, as soon as I would take my phone off the charger it would immediately drop to 96%. Now as david279 said, it will actually stay on 100% for awhile and have better standby time. Good find joker, I do see a difference.
How did you find out about the cells not being charged evenly?

WOW...this actually works. This should be posted on other forums so ppl know about it.

Akulamenuri said:
How did you find out about the cells not being charged evenly?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm a battery nut... actually, i used lithiums in model RC airplanes all the time. Balancing is a must.
Maybe someone can build an app for this, to reboot cycle on and off the power?
Is that even possible?
Now if someone would like to shoot me a awsome working froyo 2.2 rom *** joke

kthejoker20 said:
I'm a battery nut... actually, i used lithiums in model RC airplanes all the time. Balancing is a must.
Maybe someone can build an app for this, to reboot cycle on and off the power?
Is that even possible?
Now if someone would like to shoot me a awsome working froyo 2.2 rom *** joke
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can you post this over at the other android forums so ppl know?

disconnecting charger means immediate 100% to 99%

I remember that someboy have already said it, but i've not found on the forum a solution.
disconnecting the charger means an immediately pass from 100% to 99%.
why this bug?
how can we solve it?
thanks

Hmmm i think you must connect charger
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk

ilbulgaro89 said:
I remember that someboy have already said it, but i've not found on the forum a solution.
disconnecting the charger means an immediately pass from 100% to 99%.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This seems to be a much more common behaviour since 2.2.1 ROMs came out.
However a pattern is still to be extracted from this: for example, when i charge the phone while powered off, and then boot it, once boot is completed i was able to see 100% for 1-2 minutes even after finally unplugging the charger.
why this bug?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
One guess is that Samsung changed "the mathematics of charging" the phone, at least while charging with phone on, and may have done something wrong with displayed charging levels, but not necessarily with battery life itself.
Another guess is that your "2.2-calibrated" battery is somehow different/seen differently from a proper "2.2.1-calibrated" battery. Could be a matter of recalibration, or a combination with the previous point.
how can we solve it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At the moment is unknown.
This issue, and many others related to battery, it's currently being analyzed much more deeply in this thread.
For example, a user has just found out that 3rd party applications like Juice Plotter properly recognise 100% level even after unplugging the charger. This is interesting.
So it's still a work in progress.

It's just displaying it different. Battery meters are not accurate, that's just the way it is.
If the charger really kept your battery at 100% while it was on the charger then your battery would wear out very quickly. In reality it allows it to drop to around 90% after hitting 100%. The battery meter just stays at 100% for a bit on most phones so clueless users don't think something is wrong and wear their battery down by repeatedly forcing it to 100%.
Stop worrying over little 1 or 2% differences in battery readings, they are nowhere near accurate enough to judge such small differences.

It is interesting though, that this problem doesn't occur to me. I'm on JPY based Darky's rom v7, and the battery is reported as 100% for I don't know how long, after plugging in. I could confirm exactly how long but atm I'm testing to see how many days I can push out of the battery
Also, it doesn't seem like a problem to me. I think that maybe Samsung altered the algorithm for calculating battery level, because, pure technicly, a battery cannot house 100% while not plugged in.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Well they did change how they show the battery status in 2.2.1
You still has same capacity.
Think its better it show this way then 100% for 20 minutes before it moved to 99%.
**Using my own JPX kernel, z4mod, 345MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**

I came across this article recently
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
this explains things well, check it out

ilbulgaro89 said:
I remember that someboy have already said it, but i've not found on the forum a solution.
disconnecting the charger means an immediately pass from 100% to 99%.
why this bug?
how can we solve it?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm sure this is a ROM specific issue. ON JPX Rom (I think), the charge used to reduce from 100% to 97% instantaneously after removing the charger. This however, was resolved after I flashed to the newer JPY firmware.

Charge for first use?

Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks

SnakeManJayd said:
Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference. When I got my phone (mt4g) I starte using it right away without charging it, everything seemed fine I had an issue with the screen so I exchanged it and got a new one. This one I charged first for a few hours before even turning it on and it did make a difference. my battery seemed to be holding a charge for longer. When I got another battery I read they recommend charging it fully off for at least 8 hours then when you do power it on let it run down all the way. Do that for the first 5 charges and it will help your battery health in the long run.
Another example is my friend got two of the same phone one for him and one for his gf. He started using his as soon as he got out of the store, hers he charged for her because he didnt see her that night. He said the phones are pretty much set up identically, same software, same services running etc.. and he said her battery lasts noticeably longer than his

graffixnyc said:
Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the input. Ya, I have heard a lot of stories like yours.
And even if it doesn't always make a difference, it's only 8 hours, so it should be worth it just to make sure, but when you've been waiting since January for an android tablet and you finally get one in April, 8 hours is forever. ha ha
Thanks

Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?

SnakeManJayd said:
Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many new batteries will charge to 90% or 95%, then display the light as "fully charged". They will continue to to charge to 100%, drain back down to 90%, and back and forth in order to not stick at full 100% (aka charging over night).
That being said I've heard a lot of talk about conditioning smartphone batteries etc. and for the most part I haven't seen a lot of evidence to prove that it is necessary. Lithium Ion batteries really don't need conditioning or anything as much as you'd think... that's really an old NiCad thing to do.

I did not charge mine when i first got it, the battery was already at 90% about and i simply used it for a day and a half and now i'm charging it for the first time. i regularly get new electronics devices and i never have better problems personally. battery tech has come up a ways in the last few years.

It's well known by now the Li-ion batteries do better with short, more frequent charges. It is not a good idea to run it down until dead. These batteries also do not have a "memory."

Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
Sent from my Xoom

I got my Xoom wifi and plugged it in and turned it on. Couldn't wait any longer.
It's an awesome tablet and the battery lasts all day, with constant wifi and playing.
Thanks for the advice guys

MikeyMike01 said:
Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
Sent from my Xoom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well said. Alas, no matter what a sound scientific methods proves some people just won't listen...

I used it right out of the box and have no issued

Thanks for posting this - timely reminder to check up on the latest info on li-ion batteries (given I will be getting my xoom tomorrow).
Here is a summary on lithium ion:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Appreciate if anyone finds other links that explain it even better but are also as reliable.

I thought of this thread. It's for N1 but if you have some spare time, tons of information in that thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609&highlight=battery+calibration

N7 JB 4.2 strange charging issue

My stock unrooted 16gb n7 received the 4.2 update this morning, all has been fine until this evening when it needed charge.
It often gets plugged into a htc phone charger, which has worked fine since i bought the tab a few months ago until today, its a 1amp charger so it takes ages to charge, but thats fine as it is plugged in until the morning normally.
So i plugin as normal, and come back after setting up google play music on my desktop pc, and i see the unit rebooting showing the glowing X. The screen goes blank and is unresponsive, eventually the google logo appears and it boots normally (its still plugged in btw), after unlocking the screen goes mental after maybe 5 seconds with random noise on it, then goes black.
So i unplug and use the genuine asus charger and cable, it does the same twice over, reboot, freeze, long wait then reboot.
I have now left it on charge using the asus charger and it seems to be ok now
Have google changed some charging requirements? Anyone else seen this?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

Not sure, but my nexus 7 on Android 4.2 charges like 35% slower than did with 4.1.2..... what the hell did they do??

Funny you mention that, i might agree with you there
The N7 seems fine today, i did make a couple of videos of it misbehaving last night, watching back my circle battery widget app jumps from 16% to 0% battery just before it goes blank, indicating it might have simply run flat but thought it still had 16% battery?
Wonder if they have changed the battery meter scaling?
I think i will run it flat and check it shuts down properly like it used to
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

dexterslab said:
Funny you mention that, i might agree with you there
The N7 seems fine today, i did make a couple of videos of it misbehaving last night, watching back my circle battery widget app jumps from 16% to 0% battery just before it goes blank, indicating it might have simply run flat but thought it still had 16% battery?
Wonder if they have changed the battery meter scaling?
I think i will run it flat and check it shuts down properly like it used to
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi dexterslab,
On a side note when you update to 4.2 were you already rooted and did you have superSU version0.98 installed? I have been reading other posts in this forum that folks have been rooted, superSU installed and the update has completely crashed their N7. ANy info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
JBIRD

Its still as stock, locked and unrooted
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

I've noticed slower charging since the 4.2 update too - did a quick Google search and landed here. Using the same genuine Asus charger and generic cable that I did before the update, and I would agree with the roughly 35% slower estimate.

dexterslab said:
Its still as stock, locked and unrooted
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks, did you do a factory reset prior to updating?

No, update received ota so just installed it
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

Been working and charging fine since, guess it was just a random glitch!?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

scubastevegk said:
I've noticed slower charging since the 4.2 update too - did a quick Google search and landed here. Using the same genuine Asus charger and generic cable that I did before the update, and I would agree with the roughly 35% slower estimate.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you using the new Daydream feature (you can find it in the display settings). If yes this may be the cause of slower charging, because it doesn't turn of the display.

Daydream is off.
Tbh, now it seems to have settled down i think maybe charging time is pretty much the same as it was. The whole debacle seems to be a complete non-event in hindsight!
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium

Guhrasoh said:
Are you using the new Daydream feature (you can find it in the display settings). If yes this may be the cause of slower charging, because it doesn't turn of the display.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No Daydream for me.

Mine is stock and unrooted. After the update I'm having the same charging issues. Incredibly slower charging. It's been plugged in for 6 hours now and it's at 80%. I did play a bit of pandora for about 30minutes but it was still plugged in. Other than that I haven't touched it other than to check the level. I turned daydream. Let's see if that help though I doubt it.

i think when you install the 4.2 update it does a battery stat wipe. this could produce the battery jumping from 16%-0% i reset the battery stats on my gt-i9003 the other day charged, its went from 100% - 40% instantly after about 2 charge cycles it should go back to normal.
it would also explain the battery seeming to take longer to charge, its just the voltage counter resetting itself. it might even in some cases charge faster....then run out quicker....
charge- discharge about 3 times and it should go back to norm.:good:
example :
dexterslab said:
Tbh, now it seems to have settled down i think maybe charging time is pretty much the same as it was. The whole debacle seems to be a complete non-event in hindsight!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
still bro i wouldnt use any charger expect the asus one, phones maybe i mean i always use other peoples chargers,or pickup the wrong end from my snake-pit of charger cables hanging under my tv unit. but for tabs....nah lol

chismay said:
i think when you install the 4.2 update it does a battery stat wipe. this could produce the battery jumping from 16%-0% i reset the battery stats on my gt-i9003 the other day charged, its went from 100% - 40% instantly after about 2 charge cycles it should go back to normal.
it would also explain the battery seeming to take longer to charge, its just the voltage counter resetting itself. it might even in some cases charge faster....then run out quicker....
charge- discharge about 3 times and it should go back to norm.:good:
example :
still bro i wouldnt use any charger expect the asus one, phones maybe i mean i always use other peoples chargers,or pickup the wrong end from my snake-pit of charger cables hanging under my tv unit. but for tabs....nah lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed, phones seem to be more universally compatible when it comes to charges.
Charge a tab with the wrong charger n you'll make up with a melted Nexus 7

i think its a part of certain regulations now that mobile phones needs to have an internal capacitor/transformer to make sure of this problem, as people usually run out of charge on the go and use other chargers as long as the connector fits and it begins charging, most of us including me are probably guilty of plugging a charger in, seeing its charging and thinking *yay it works fine* walking away and not really understanding what slow-fast damage can be caused to the device/battery.
for tabs 30% i would say dont have this feature:good: especially the Chinese ones. ? <no racial offence intended> you guys know what im on about.

My Nexus 7 worked great before upgrading to 4.2. Now it can't charge while I'm using it... The battery just goes up and down as I'm surfing the web, if I load a lot of pages, it goes down, if I read a lot, it goes up... But if I try to watch a floating video while surfing the web, it just goes down... There is definitely a problem! Here is a screenshot... I'm using the original charger and cable...

chismay said:
i think when you install the 4.2 update it does a battery stat wipe. this could produce the battery jumping from 16%-0% i reset the battery stats on my gt-i9003 the other day charged, its went from 100% - 40% instantly after about 2 charge cycles it should go back to normal.
it would also explain the battery seeming to take longer to charge, its just the voltage counter resetting itself. it might even in some cases charge faster....then run out quicker....
charge- discharge about 3 times and it should go back to norm.:good:
example :
still bro i wouldnt use any charger expect the asus one, phones maybe i mean i always use other peoples chargers,or pickup the wrong end from my snake-pit of charger cables hanging under my tv unit. but for tabs....nah lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wiping battery stats does absolutely nothing that affects reported battery charge level. That wives' tale was long ago debunked by a member of Google's Android team. The one and only thing you are wiping is a list of apps that have operated on battery since unplugging after the last complete charge. This in no way, shape, or form affects reported charge or has any effect on battery life whatsoever.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

najaboy said:
Wiping battery stats does absolutely nothing that affects reported battery charge level. That wives' tale was long ago debunked by a member of Google's Android team. The one and only thing you are wiping is a list of apps that have operated on battery since unplugging after the last complete charge. This in no way, shape, or form affects reported charge or has any effect on battery life whatsoever.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LIKE I AM SAYING MY FRIEND,
actually the battery stats ARE WHAT THE GOOGLE DEV SAID is what gives you accurate readings it doesn't increase your battery life . i never said that it will, so please don't police me,.
heres the comment
This file [batterystats.bin] is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings. That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
when you flash a new firmware, the system must calibrate as there are no previous readings from the bstat file right?.,these are the readings that help the system produce the reported battery charge. its what it does to give you those readings, i was guiding the above member to wait and run a few cycles for readings to be more accurate i never said his battery was dead.
kinda why pretty much EVERYONE mentions after flashing a new firmware on most device they have a few days of battery "up-n-downs"= counter reset/data collection/last battstat file wiped.
cheers:good:

chismay said:
LIKE I AM SAYING MY FRIEND,
actually the battery stats ARE WHAT THE GOOGLE DEV SAID is what gives you accurate readings it doesn't increase your battery life . i never said that it will, so please don't police me,.
heres the comment
This file [batterystats.bin] is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings. That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
when you flash a new firmware, the system must calibrate as there are no previous readings from the bstat file right?.,these are the readings that help the system produce the reported battery charge. its what it does to give you those readings, i was guiding the above member to wait and run a few cycles for readings to be more accurate i never said his battery was dead.
kinda why pretty much EVERYONE mentions after flashing a new firmware on most device they have a few days of battery "up-n-downs"= counter reset/data collection/last battstat file wiped.
cheers:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Read her entire dissertation, and you will see that it does not pertain to reported charge level. She explicitly states that batterystats.bin has no bearing on reported charge level. Interesting that you left out the portions of her post immediately prior to, and immediately following, the part of her post that you quoted... you know, the ones where she states, and then restates, that nothing in batterystats.bin affects the reported charge level? Also, the reason the battery seems more stable a few days after flashing new firmware is the kernel itself settling, not the OS.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

How to get a full battery charge and improved life

For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

What do you basr yourself on for this??
Sent from my GT-N8013 using xda app-developers app

gemini002 said:
For those who have bad battery life first charge your phone fully while on then turn phone off...plug the phone back into charger while it's off it will be a red light charge until green sometimes it takes another 20 mins .When done turn phone on and plug charger in again it will drop to 99% when 100 plug out now u have a fully calibrated battery..I am on the new firmware btw
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days

CheesyNutz said:
i call BS lol this has been around since the htc hero days
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Actually it's not b.s I noticed that around 80% my phone would drop down quickly to 70% and 30% would drop 3% instead of 1 so I did this method knowing that my battery was not fully charged.since I have done this no more quick drops...instead of saying b.s why not try it first then come to a conclusion smh
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

I can vouch for this ...I am only trying to help those who gave bad battery drain...we do flash a lot on xda sometimes **** happens
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

Instead of clowing u guys should try it..listen phone says fully charged for some but in reality it is not it will rapidly drop for example 90% but drops to 79% rapidly or drops 3% for no reason while screen is on is due to battery not fully calibrated/charged ..This happens from flashing roms sometimes this happens if you have battery issues try this method ..
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

I used this method a couple of years ago on my DHD. It made a huge difference! i forgot all about this. I'll do it again later.

Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.

Yeah, I do this on my galaxy note and sometinmes on my new one.
When 100,% through normal charging turn phone off and begin charge again. It will charge just that bit further.
One thing the note does better is thaat when off and charging you get a battery indicator on screen, not so with the one.

WhatsAUsername said:
I'm pretty sure the only way to get a full battery charge is to hold the phone upside down in your right hand, put your left hand on the back, and spin in 3 circles, counter clockwise. You must then quickly plug the charger (within 1 second), and spin the phone around the cable 3 times, in a clockwise direction this time. Only then can you ever hope to have a fully charged battery.
I can vouch for this. :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Man that's total bull...... only 2 circles required
To be real for a minute if I may..... if you monitor the current draw by the phone when charging you will see that when the green led lights the phone is still pulling 60-70mA from the charger so it's still charging and can take a while longer for that draw to fall to 0mA. At this point it's fully charged.
Charging it as the OP suggests does actually allow this extra top up.

I actually think this does help with proper calibration a bit. Not sure why people are acting like children here.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 2

The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.

NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?

NxNW said:
The topic of batteries makes people go crazy for some reason. I will toss in my own 2 cents, the thread title talks about improving battery "life". In this case we seem to be talking about "battery life per charge cycle" and people should just be aware seeking improvement in this area usually comes at the expense of a different kind of battery life, ie "battery life per phone".
I personally am one of those who is a little irritated by the non-replaceable battery on the One because I intend to keep the phone for many years. This applies to almost nobody else I realize, but for me this thread is a helpful summary of the exact steps I need to *avoid* if I want to get the longest lifetime (measured in years, not minutes) out of the battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

Arcadia310 said:
What's wrong with turning the phone off every once in a while and letting it charge up fully?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
gemini002 said:
I only needed to do it once...for regular charging I recommend charging while off then plug it out turn on and charge will drop to 99% when plugged in charge until light is green..or you can charge normal after this point your battery stats should be good
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
actually i'm totally cool with doing this procedure every once in a while as a way to just what it says, get a few extra minutes of battery life. hell, if very precise runtime estimates are important to you and this helps calibrate that, great. i'm all for that too. i actually *have* tried something like this and my phone didnt die and i'm sure i got a little extra run time that day.
i just wouldn't do it *every* day.
one of the findings in another thread around here (something about battery "health") was the battery ages quicker at higher voltages such as those used towards the end of the charging cycle. if you are willing to constrain yourself to charging the phone to *less* than 80% capacity (ie the opposite of what this thread is about) you will double the useful life of the actual LiOn (or LiPolymer or whatever) material in the phone.
that is all. not trying to discourage anyone from *ever* doing this procedure, just explaining why i actually strive to do the opposite most of the time.
carry on.

Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.

veritasxe said:
Thanks, I had a feeling the calibration was a little off since the phone shuts down at around 5%, let's see what happens.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's only because fast boot is most probably enabled...

Kahbrohn said:
Known fact... it is impractical to FULLY charge up a battery while is is in use (hence, being drained). Plain and simple physics at work here and I can vouch for this based on the many years I worked in the Navy charging, repairing, replacing, and rebuilding naval vessel batteries. Granted these are not huge deep cycle batteries but the charging principles are the same.
As as matter of fact, just did the method the OP was kind enough to suggest to us and it worked like a charm. Noticed a higher mv reading on my battery! Not much but I will take it. Who would have figured on that...
+Thanks to OP for bringing this up.
EDIT: For the record, I would normally reach 4310-4313mV... after this I am reaching +4335mV - Not much but I'll take it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahhhh vindication ...
HTC ONE rooted,S-Off,SuperCid

As fun as it is to mock, this most likely does work. HTC seem to be pretty bad at making battery algorithms, never found myself having to do this on the galaxy nexus or nexus 4. But my battery drops to 85 darn fast now and I'm pretty sure this will help. I remember this was helpful on the desire and desire HD too.
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium

A lot of people say this is merely a placebo effect, but I agree that it works very well for me with my device.
Humbly Sent from my HTC One running Stock+GE UI