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Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
SnakeManJayd said:
Hi.
I've seen lots of advice in several different ways about charging new tech when you get it.
So I thought I'd try a poll to see what the general consensus is.
1) Charge until light is green before turning it on the first time?
2) Turn on without precharge, but then run completely flat before charging
3) It's a Li-ion battery and it makes no difference
Thanks
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Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference. When I got my phone (mt4g) I starte using it right away without charging it, everything seemed fine I had an issue with the screen so I exchanged it and got a new one. This one I charged first for a few hours before even turning it on and it did make a difference. my battery seemed to be holding a charge for longer. When I got another battery I read they recommend charging it fully off for at least 8 hours then when you do power it on let it run down all the way. Do that for the first 5 charges and it will help your battery health in the long run.
Another example is my friend got two of the same phone one for him and one for his gf. He started using his as soon as he got out of the store, hers he charged for her because he didnt see her that night. He said the phones are pretty much set up identically, same software, same services running etc.. and he said her battery lasts noticeably longer than his
graffixnyc said:
Many people will tell you it doesnt matter but I know from experience that it does in fact make a difference.
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Thanks for the input. Ya, I have heard a lot of stories like yours.
And even if it doesn't always make a difference, it's only 8 hours, so it should be worth it just to make sure, but when you've been waiting since January for an android tablet and you finally get one in April, 8 hours is forever. ha ha
Thanks
Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
SnakeManJayd said:
Oh, I suppose another related question is how much is fully charged? Apparently modern devices have a current regulator or something in them that stops it from charging past 95% or something? Not sure on specifics, but from what I've read. You can't charge it passed when the green light comes on anyway?
Anyone know more on this?
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Many new batteries will charge to 90% or 95%, then display the light as "fully charged". They will continue to to charge to 100%, drain back down to 90%, and back and forth in order to not stick at full 100% (aka charging over night).
That being said I've heard a lot of talk about conditioning smartphone batteries etc. and for the most part I haven't seen a lot of evidence to prove that it is necessary. Lithium Ion batteries really don't need conditioning or anything as much as you'd think... that's really an old NiCad thing to do.
I did not charge mine when i first got it, the battery was already at 90% about and i simply used it for a day and a half and now i'm charging it for the first time. i regularly get new electronics devices and i never have better problems personally. battery tech has come up a ways in the last few years.
It's well known by now the Li-ion batteries do better with short, more frequent charges. It is not a good idea to run it down until dead. These batteries also do not have a "memory."
Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
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I got my Xoom wifi and plugged it in and turned it on. Couldn't wait any longer.
It's an awesome tablet and the battery lasts all day, with constant wifi and playing.
Thanks for the advice guys
MikeyMike01 said:
Placebo and old habits keep this myth around.
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Well said. Alas, no matter what a sound scientific methods proves some people just won't listen...
I used it right out of the box and have no issued
Thanks for posting this - timely reminder to check up on the latest info on li-ion batteries (given I will be getting my xoom tomorrow).
Here is a summary on lithium ion:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
Appreciate if anyone finds other links that explain it even better but are also as reliable.
I thought of this thread. It's for N1 but if you have some spare time, tons of information in that thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=765609&highlight=battery+calibration
I've recently tried a cheap high capacity battery, over twice the capacity of the original one (but, of course, twice as fat and heavy). While the battery charges to it's 4.2V and discharges down to about 3.5V properly (tested manually, with the multimeter), the phone keeps reporting the battery as 1230mAh, tracking it accordingly. This causes the phone to go from 100% down to 15% at about the speed it would with the original battery and then remain at 15% for a full day. Similarly, charging the battery makes it go to 100% twice as fast as it should, yet the battery keeps charging after it reaches those virtual 100%, up to the proper 4.2V, with the proper current (NOT trickle charging).
I've already tried the obvious (fully charge, delete the stats file, fully use the charge, then full recharge again), it didn't really help, it only distributed the estimation a tiny little bit.
Any solutions ? Is there a proper way to manually override the battery capacity either with or without recalibration ?
27 views and not a single freaking answer ? How familiar
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InfX said:
27 views and not a single freaking answer ? How familiar
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Maybee battery curent widget... inside you have settings/monitoring/battery capacity...
But with that attitude I'm almoust sorry to help you
I am familiar with that widget, overriding the capacity setting there only changes the displayed capacity in the app, it doesn't affect the estimations at all. Sorry, i should have mentioned trying this.
PS: What attitude ? Bumping a thread that got buried on a third page after just 2 days, without a single answer, while most other threads that bury it could be answered using a search button ?! I can assure you, i may do it once again after a week+ or something and then i'll just forget about it, you can check my others threads And yea, they usually remain either unanswered, or self-answered after all (rare, but if it happens, i post my findings in the thread)
PPS: If you consider it such a "bad attitude" just don't bother helping. Thanks.
Battery reading is indeed not 100% perfect. But what ever change we would make. It is not gonna give you extra battery life. Until some one fix it there is no way to read it 100% correct. So that is the whole story.
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Battery reading is indeed not 100% perfect. But what ever change we would make. It is not gonna give you extra battery life. Until some one fix it there is no way to read it 100% correct. So that is the whole story.
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Well, i don't bet on it to be 100% correct, but it should be something relatively close to the reality, while in case of this particular battery it's nowhere near that.
It assumes 1230mAh, calibrated or not, and i am 100% sure it takes this value from somewhere. In any case, it should be possible to patch, the question is where/how. Since i am not exactly an Android/Linux guru, the only things i did to find it out are searching this forum and doing simple google searches, finding nothing beyond the usual calibration thing. I though maybe someone may know something, that's why i posted the thread. I guess i was wrong about it.
PS: I guess i'll either abandon this, or start my own research, beginning at the source code of the ROM/kernel i use
InfX said:
I've recently tried a cheap high capacity battery, over twice the capacity of the original one (but, of course, twice as fat and heavy). While the battery charges to it's 4.2V and discharges down to about 3.5V properly (tested manually, with the multimeter), the phone keeps reporting the battery as 1230mAh, tracking it accordingly. This causes the phone to go from 100% down to 15% at about the speed it would with the original battery and then remain at 15% for a full day. Similarly, charging the battery makes it go to 100% twice as fast as it should, yet the battery keeps charging after it reaches those virtual 100%, up to the proper 4.2V, with the proper current (NOT trickle charging).
I've already tried the obvious (fully charge, delete the stats file, fully use the charge, then full recharge again), it didn't really help, it only distributed the estimation a tiny little bit.
Any solutions ? Is there a proper way to manually override the battery capacity either with or without recalibration ?
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i think you just need a rom/kernel that support extended batteries.
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j4n87 said:
i think you just need a rom/kernel that support extended batteries.
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Tytung R10 does. All those kernels only support "official HTC extended battery" though, and i have yet to find out what does it really mean (read - what's the technical difference between the official and unofficial one). Note that the battery is charged/discharged properly, its just the stats/percentage remaining that go haywire.
mhh, just made some researches...
Stumbled over these threads:
Crazy, that there is a different behaviour if you have an orig. HTC or not...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=756513
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948181
Also read somewhere, that you really need to charge your phone to fully 100%, so that current widget shows 0ma...and then let the phone a few more hours at the charger, (DONT remove your charger) then manually delete the batterstats file in /data/system, turn off the device, REMOVE the charger, then boot the device.
Good luck
For those really interested to know what the technical difference between those bats... its the thermistor values range. Thats it.
The different batteries are identified by that thermistor value, all the batteries parameters are in the "ds2746_param_config.h", the table i am interested in modifying is the FL_25, one that defines the full battery capacity.
Sadly, this, most probably, requires a kernel recompilation, something i can't do, not without setting up all the required environment first Or, maybe it's possible to just patch the kernel image with hexeditor, i'll probably take a look.
PS: Thanks for everyone for trying to help.
EDIT: patching zImage would be harder than just recompiling it
not saying this is the right answer or that you haven't already tried but it didn't half help me out as i was only getting 8 hours before i used it, and i only got around 15 hours when i used to use wm, also left a print screen of what i get after i use the features in THIS page...
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My stock unrooted 16gb n7 received the 4.2 update this morning, all has been fine until this evening when it needed charge.
It often gets plugged into a htc phone charger, which has worked fine since i bought the tab a few months ago until today, its a 1amp charger so it takes ages to charge, but thats fine as it is plugged in until the morning normally.
So i plugin as normal, and come back after setting up google play music on my desktop pc, and i see the unit rebooting showing the glowing X. The screen goes blank and is unresponsive, eventually the google logo appears and it boots normally (its still plugged in btw), after unlocking the screen goes mental after maybe 5 seconds with random noise on it, then goes black.
So i unplug and use the genuine asus charger and cable, it does the same twice over, reboot, freeze, long wait then reboot.
I have now left it on charge using the asus charger and it seems to be ok now
Have google changed some charging requirements? Anyone else seen this?
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Not sure, but my nexus 7 on Android 4.2 charges like 35% slower than did with 4.1.2..... what the hell did they do??
Funny you mention that, i might agree with you there
The N7 seems fine today, i did make a couple of videos of it misbehaving last night, watching back my circle battery widget app jumps from 16% to 0% battery just before it goes blank, indicating it might have simply run flat but thought it still had 16% battery?
Wonder if they have changed the battery meter scaling?
I think i will run it flat and check it shuts down properly like it used to
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dexterslab said:
Funny you mention that, i might agree with you there
The N7 seems fine today, i did make a couple of videos of it misbehaving last night, watching back my circle battery widget app jumps from 16% to 0% battery just before it goes blank, indicating it might have simply run flat but thought it still had 16% battery?
Wonder if they have changed the battery meter scaling?
I think i will run it flat and check it shuts down properly like it used to
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Hi dexterslab,
On a side note when you update to 4.2 were you already rooted and did you have superSU version0.98 installed? I have been reading other posts in this forum that folks have been rooted, superSU installed and the update has completely crashed their N7. ANy info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
JBIRD
Its still as stock, locked and unrooted
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I've noticed slower charging since the 4.2 update too - did a quick Google search and landed here. Using the same genuine Asus charger and generic cable that I did before the update, and I would agree with the roughly 35% slower estimate.
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Its still as stock, locked and unrooted
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Thanks, did you do a factory reset prior to updating?
No, update received ota so just installed it
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Been working and charging fine since, guess it was just a random glitch!?
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scubastevegk said:
I've noticed slower charging since the 4.2 update too - did a quick Google search and landed here. Using the same genuine Asus charger and generic cable that I did before the update, and I would agree with the roughly 35% slower estimate.
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Are you using the new Daydream feature (you can find it in the display settings). If yes this may be the cause of slower charging, because it doesn't turn of the display.
Daydream is off.
Tbh, now it seems to have settled down i think maybe charging time is pretty much the same as it was. The whole debacle seems to be a complete non-event in hindsight!
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Guhrasoh said:
Are you using the new Daydream feature (you can find it in the display settings). If yes this may be the cause of slower charging, because it doesn't turn of the display.
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No Daydream for me.
Mine is stock and unrooted. After the update I'm having the same charging issues. Incredibly slower charging. It's been plugged in for 6 hours now and it's at 80%. I did play a bit of pandora for about 30minutes but it was still plugged in. Other than that I haven't touched it other than to check the level. I turned daydream. Let's see if that help though I doubt it.
i think when you install the 4.2 update it does a battery stat wipe. this could produce the battery jumping from 16%-0% i reset the battery stats on my gt-i9003 the other day charged, its went from 100% - 40% instantly after about 2 charge cycles it should go back to normal.
it would also explain the battery seeming to take longer to charge, its just the voltage counter resetting itself. it might even in some cases charge faster....then run out quicker....
charge- discharge about 3 times and it should go back to norm.:good:
example :
dexterslab said:
Tbh, now it seems to have settled down i think maybe charging time is pretty much the same as it was. The whole debacle seems to be a complete non-event in hindsight!
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still bro i wouldnt use any charger expect the asus one, phones maybe i mean i always use other peoples chargers,or pickup the wrong end from my snake-pit of charger cables hanging under my tv unit. but for tabs....nah lol
chismay said:
i think when you install the 4.2 update it does a battery stat wipe. this could produce the battery jumping from 16%-0% i reset the battery stats on my gt-i9003 the other day charged, its went from 100% - 40% instantly after about 2 charge cycles it should go back to normal.
it would also explain the battery seeming to take longer to charge, its just the voltage counter resetting itself. it might even in some cases charge faster....then run out quicker....
charge- discharge about 3 times and it should go back to norm.:good:
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still bro i wouldnt use any charger expect the asus one, phones maybe i mean i always use other peoples chargers,or pickup the wrong end from my snake-pit of charger cables hanging under my tv unit. but for tabs....nah lol
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Agreed, phones seem to be more universally compatible when it comes to charges.
Charge a tab with the wrong charger n you'll make up with a melted Nexus 7
i think its a part of certain regulations now that mobile phones needs to have an internal capacitor/transformer to make sure of this problem, as people usually run out of charge on the go and use other chargers as long as the connector fits and it begins charging, most of us including me are probably guilty of plugging a charger in, seeing its charging and thinking *yay it works fine* walking away and not really understanding what slow-fast damage can be caused to the device/battery.
for tabs 30% i would say dont have this feature:good: especially the Chinese ones. ? <no racial offence intended> you guys know what im on about.
My Nexus 7 worked great before upgrading to 4.2. Now it can't charge while I'm using it... The battery just goes up and down as I'm surfing the web, if I load a lot of pages, it goes down, if I read a lot, it goes up... But if I try to watch a floating video while surfing the web, it just goes down... There is definitely a problem! Here is a screenshot... I'm using the original charger and cable...
chismay said:
i think when you install the 4.2 update it does a battery stat wipe. this could produce the battery jumping from 16%-0% i reset the battery stats on my gt-i9003 the other day charged, its went from 100% - 40% instantly after about 2 charge cycles it should go back to normal.
it would also explain the battery seeming to take longer to charge, its just the voltage counter resetting itself. it might even in some cases charge faster....then run out quicker....
charge- discharge about 3 times and it should go back to norm.:good:
example :
still bro i wouldnt use any charger expect the asus one, phones maybe i mean i always use other peoples chargers,or pickup the wrong end from my snake-pit of charger cables hanging under my tv unit. but for tabs....nah lol
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Wiping battery stats does absolutely nothing that affects reported battery charge level. That wives' tale was long ago debunked by a member of Google's Android team. The one and only thing you are wiping is a list of apps that have operated on battery since unplugging after the last complete charge. This in no way, shape, or form affects reported charge or has any effect on battery life whatsoever.
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najaboy said:
Wiping battery stats does absolutely nothing that affects reported battery charge level. That wives' tale was long ago debunked by a member of Google's Android team. The one and only thing you are wiping is a list of apps that have operated on battery since unplugging after the last complete charge. This in no way, shape, or form affects reported charge or has any effect on battery life whatsoever.
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LIKE I AM SAYING MY FRIEND,
actually the battery stats ARE WHAT THE GOOGLE DEV SAID is what gives you accurate readings it doesn't increase your battery life . i never said that it will, so please don't police me,.
heres the comment
This file [batterystats.bin] is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings. That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
when you flash a new firmware, the system must calibrate as there are no previous readings from the bstat file right?.,these are the readings that help the system produce the reported battery charge. its what it does to give you those readings, i was guiding the above member to wait and run a few cycles for readings to be more accurate i never said his battery was dead.
kinda why pretty much EVERYONE mentions after flashing a new firmware on most device they have a few days of battery "up-n-downs"= counter reset/data collection/last battstat file wiped.
cheers:good:
chismay said:
LIKE I AM SAYING MY FRIEND,
actually the battery stats ARE WHAT THE GOOGLE DEV SAID is what gives you accurate readings it doesn't increase your battery life . i never said that it will, so please don't police me,.
heres the comment
This file [batterystats.bin] is used to maintain, across reboots, low-level data about the kinds of operations the device and your apps are doing between battery changes. That is, it is solely used to compute the blame for battery usage shown in the "Battery Use" UI in settings. That is, it has deeply significant things like "app X held a wake lock for 2 minutes" and "the screen was on at 60% brightness for 10 minutes."
when you flash a new firmware, the system must calibrate as there are no previous readings from the bstat file right?.,these are the readings that help the system produce the reported battery charge. its what it does to give you those readings, i was guiding the above member to wait and run a few cycles for readings to be more accurate i never said his battery was dead.
kinda why pretty much EVERYONE mentions after flashing a new firmware on most device they have a few days of battery "up-n-downs"= counter reset/data collection/last battstat file wiped.
cheers:good:
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Read her entire dissertation, and you will see that it does not pertain to reported charge level. She explicitly states that batterystats.bin has no bearing on reported charge level. Interesting that you left out the portions of her post immediately prior to, and immediately following, the part of her post that you quoted... you know, the ones where she states, and then restates, that nothing in batterystats.bin affects the reported charge level? Also, the reason the battery seems more stable a few days after flashing new firmware is the kernel itself settling, not the OS.
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Hi, I've bought a nexus 4 about a month ago. I works great and the battery life is good enought but i notice that sometimes I connect the charger (when the battery is 40% full for example) and a few minutes later it says it is 100%.
Ofcourse it's not and some minutes later it drops. If I reboot the phone it shows the correct percentaje, but I happens very often.
Somebody has the same issue?
I didn't try to wipe the battery stats because I didnt install a custom recovery. Is there any way to fix it without flashing it?
thanks
serialger said:
Hi, I've bought a nexus 4 about a month ago. I works great and the battery life is good enought but i notice that sometimes I connect the charger (when the battery is 40% full for example) and a few minutes later it says it is 100%.
Ofcourse it's not and some minutes later it drops. If I reboot the phone it shows the correct percentaje, but I happens very often.
Somebody has the same issue?
I didn't try to wipe the battery stats because I didnt install a custom recovery. Is there any way to fix it without flashing it?
thanks
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Most N4's have some quirky battery stat behaviour. You'll have to learn to live with it, wiping battery stats, or reflashing the stock images, or an alternative ROM, won't do anything to address this.
CMNein said:
Most N4's have some quirky battery stat behaviour. You'll have to learn to live with it, wiping battery stats, or reflashing the stock images, or an alternative ROM, won't do anything to address this.
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Really? SO ****ING AWESOME! haha
thanks!
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Really? SO ****ING AWESOME! haha
thanks!
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It's the first thing I noticed about the phone. I've only charged from 0 to 100 in a second once though when I first got the phone, aside from that just the occasional lazy updating of the actual percentage. Stressing the phone a bit tends to help it "catch up" to where it should be.
Edit: you know, it's good OCD therapy, it may help you get past your OCD if you have it.
If you don't have OCD, you certainly will now...
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It's the first thing I noticed about the phone. I've only charged from 0 to 100 in a second once though when I first got the phone, aside from that just the occasional lazy updating of the actual percentage. Stressing the phone a bit tends to help it "catch up" to where it should be.
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Yes, the same happened to me, the issue is that sometimes I lost track of when it plug it to the charger and after use it the battery drains. It is very annoying.
I will try to charge from 0 to 100 a few times to si if the stats sync with the real battery state...
Thank
I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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Well this is odd... i think it might be an issue with the -kind of- voltimeter (battery sensor? i dont know how to name it). The battery life is ok up to now but the stats are driving me crazy!
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Well this is odd... i think it might be an issue with the -kind of- voltimeter (battery sensor? i dont know how to name it). The battery life is ok up to now but the stats are driving me crazy!
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Those of us who look beyond just the % available are easily driven crazy.
But then again because I do, I was able to prove a certain brand of charger was incompatible with my Nexus tablet.
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I tried to catch it in the act via adb and shell last fall pinging the voltage, fuel gauge, etc... but that was all my n00b self was good for.
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I've noticed that my battery % is off also. Not as bad as jumping up to 100% or anything, but I notice that when charging, the % is 20% higher than the actual battery. It'll say fully charged, but when I reboot the phone it'll say something like 83%. That happens a lot, and not always at '100%'. If I reboot anytime during the charging process, it drops around 20%. I haven't tried to do it right after I connect it, but every time I do actually reboot it happens. Kinda weird. Not even close to a deal-breaker or anything, just a quirk that I wouldn't mind getting fixed.
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I'm getting pretty consistent reading far as 0% - 100% goes (course I drained the battery down to zero twice and charged back up).
What I'm finding that seems rather weird is glitchy mV reading with battery monitor widget pro. It does decrease as the battery decreases as expected, what's unexpected is all the lil spikes upward in it's value over time, like every few mins it'll jump up like from 3995mv to 4040mv or similar jumps as if the widget can't get an accurate reading of the battery's mV level. So it look weird because the only time you would see the mV rising, is if you're charging it.
And I know someone else on this forums with a Nexus 4 that's actually showing positive mA values when he's not even plugged into a charger.
But as far as % reading goes, seems pretty accurate now, just the readings I'm getting from battery monitor widget had me concerned that the battery was bad on my less than a week old Nexus 4. My Nexus 7's history/stats look rock-stable by comparison, kind of wondering if it's an LG thing.
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My nexus is also showing +ve mA values while it's not charging, and the values are absolutely crazy, +268, +168, +1171
Is it a battery issue?
I have charged it completely (8 hours) many times and run it to the bottom , tried deleting battery stats etc but nothing has helped.
Shall I get the battery replaced?
tried to delete the battery stats file and wait for a while and see if any difference?
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floxrin said:
tried to delete the battery stats file and wait for a while and see if any difference?
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Tried that multiple times but no change, what are the possibilities? Damaged battery? Damaged battery sensors on the phone?
japmeet said:
Tried that multiple times but no change, what are the possibilities? Damaged battery? Damaged battery sensors on the phone?
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How old is the phone?
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
Well Google support definitely knows this is a big problem. After I explained the exact same issues I was having with the battery indicator being wrong they offered a in warranty replacement right away with no trouble shooting what so ever. Problem was they wanted to authorize my debit card for the full price of a phone plus shipping until they received mine back. Unfortunately I didn't have 230 bucks that I could just have tied up in authorization limbo for 2 weeks. So they transferred me to LG support because they have a return policy where they let you ship the phone back first. LG at first tried to say they only do paid repairs on Nexus 4's and that google is responsible for warranty's, but a little arguing about manufacturer warranty laws in the US and threatening to file a complaint with the FCC they agreed to replace the phone under LG warranty. Again they didn't do any troubleshooting at all. Upon explaining the problem they went right into replacement phone. This leads me to believe there is no easy fix or software problem they can update, but rather a hardware problem.
Johmama said:
I've noticed that my battery % is off also. Not as bad as jumping up to 100% or anything, but I notice that when charging, the % is 20% higher than the actual battery. It'll say fully charged, but when I reboot the phone it'll say something like 83%. That happens a lot, and not always at '100%'. If I reboot anytime during the charging process, it drops around 20%. I haven't tried to do it right after I connect it, but every time I do actually reboot it happens. Kinda weird. Not even close to a deal-breaker or anything, just a quirk that I wouldn't mind getting fixed.
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I have exactly this behavior all of a sudden the last 2 weeks.
I have worse issues....
We had the screen/digitizer replaced after my wife dropped the phone.
The phone now has some issues. It will charge, and operate ok until the battery reaches about 80%.
Then the touch will go crazy, and the phone will turn off.
Upon rebooting, the battery is suddenly at 0%.
I purchased a new battery and installed it. It charged to 100% the first time and the phone lasted for a while.
Then after that it refused to charge at all. Didn't matter how many times I did the power + volume up trick.
I put the original battery back in, and it charges, but of course dies after it reaches 80%.
Same here. Problems after screen replacement month or two ago, not sure that related. Battery went bad. After replacement with a new one (original not chinies) not stable: shows 100% charge then turn off on in 10 min, after powered on again shows 65 % and after 10 minutes plugged in 100% charged.
Driving me crazy... Fully wiped, factory reset all the same. Rooted and wiped battery stats not helped. Very frustrating if some one can suggest one else can be done...
The phone is just fine, powerfull . no reasons to replace
I also developed my battery issue about a month after replacing the screen and digitizer. I'm going to take it apart and clean the connectors and see if that helps, because I'm so annoyed I'm about to buy a new phone.
My guess is that the battery was damaged during the screen/digitizer replacing process. It happened to me recently. No biggie 24 € for a new LG original battery seems pretty cheap and the problem was solved. But why are nowdays batteries somewhat soft??
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I need some suggestions on how to calibrate the battery on my n4. It got miscalibrated when I did the update 4.2 to 4.3 and I haven't been able to calibrate it since then, a week ago.
I tried using battery calibration from the store but it didn't work, I tried charging the phone from 0 to 100 and it didn't work.
I remember I had the same problem 2 years ago with my Atrix and I solved it by wiping the battery stats from recovery, but now twrp and Cwm removed this feature and I don't know how to solve my problem.
Maybe it would help flashing all back to stock with the toolkit?
If you have any suggestions I'd really appreciate it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460553
qoolix said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1460553
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Just the answer I didn't expected, and frankly a pretty useless answer, everybody knows that battery calibration doesn't improve battery life.
But I have other problems, like I turn off my device at 80% and when I turn it on it's at 77%. Do you think that's normal?
Elwood_It said:
Just the answer I didn't expected, and frankly a pretty useless answer, everybody knows that battery calibration doesn't improve battery life.
But I have other problems, like I turn off my device at 80% and when I turn it on it's at 77%. Do you think that's normal?
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Either faulty battery or do the following:
1.Completley discharge N4
2.Charge fully(+2 hours after hitting 100&) WITHOUT disconnecting from the charger.
3.Repeat for better results.
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failly said:
Either faulty battery or do the following:
1.Completley discharge N4
2.Charge fully(+2 hours after hitting 100&) WITHOUT disconnecting from the charger.
3.Repeat for better results.
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Thanks for the answer. Should I carghe while it's off or on or it doesn't matter?
Elwood_It said:
Thanks for the answer. Should I carghe while it's off or on or it doesn't matter?
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To be honest, I don't know.
But if I would be you I would just let it charge while it's off(So the big ass white battery icon).
Let me know if you got your battery sorted after the method I posted!
Elwood_It said:
Just the answer I didn't expected, and frankly a pretty useless answer, everybody knows that battery calibration doesn't improve battery life.
But I have other problems, like I turn off my device at 80% and when I turn it on it's at 77%. Do you think that's normal?
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You mean off as in all the way off? If so, then that ~3% is being used when the phone boots.
korockinout13 said:
You mean off as in all the way off? If so, then that ~3% is being used when the phone boots.
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I've had many phones, and none of them lost charge during the boot, at least not that many. I think that's the clear sign of battery miscalibration, I've had this problem before with another phone. Besides that, I've had a strange behaviour of the battery, for example I saw it lose 4% in 1 second, from 66 to 62 in a blink of an eye.
Elwood_It said:
I've had many phones, and none of them lost charge during the boot, at least not that many. I think that's the clear sign of battery miscalibration, I've had this problem before with another phone. Besides that, I've had a strange behaviour of the battery, for example I saw it lose 4% in 1 second, from 66 to 62 in a blink of an eye.
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It's not that it's losing charge quickly, it's just the OS (or the hardware itself) doesn't always do the best job of reading it. There's not much you can do about that, and it's really not an issue unless you make it so by staring at your battery level all day.
korockinout13 said:
It's not that it's losing charge quickly, it's just the OS (or the hardware itself) doesn't always do the best job of reading it. There's not much you can do about that, and it's really not an issue unless you make it so by staring at your battery level all day.
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Hi,
I'm having a similar issue. Phone rebooting to weird battery levels (not the %age it shutdown at).
Phone shutting down at 31% battery and rebooting to 0%.
I tried charging only to 100% yesterday with the phone ON.
Do I have to charge it even after it's charged to 100%?
failly said:
To be honest, I don't know.
But if I would be you I would just let it charge while it's off(So the big ass white battery icon).
Let me know if you got your battery sorted after the method I posted!
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I tried charging through the night and then discharging it completely and charging it completely again. I also tried deleting the batterystats file (even though I know it doesn't do anything)
So what do you suggest I should do? Get the phone replaced or get the battery changed?
I live in India and the phone is from Canada, so replacing the phone will take some time but I can get the battery replaced for around $20
Also my nexus is also showing +ve mA values while it's not charging, and the values are absolutely crazy, +268, +168, +1171 (in batter monitor widget)
Please tell me what I should do.
japmeet said:
I tried charging through the night and then discharging it completely and charging it completely again. I also tried deleting the batterystats file (even though I know it doesn't do anything)
So what do you suggest I should do? Get the phone replaced or get the battery changed?
I live in India and the phone is from Canada, so replacing the phone will take some time but I can get the battery replaced for around $20
Also my nexus is also showing +ve mA values while it's not charging, and the values are absolutely crazy, +268, +168, +1171 (in batter monitor widget)
Please tell me what I should do.
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Before you replace the battery try to disconnect the battery's flex cable and reconnect it [after you charge to device to 100% and turn it off of course] check if its 'reset' the battery.