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[Q] Anybody waiting for a GSM Xoom?

Although the majority seems to be waiting for the wifi xoom. I wonder if is just me waiting for the gsm model. I have the galaxy tab unlocked from tmo which I used without any problems recently in Germany. I got my xoom from Costco therefore (90 days return); so the CDMA is no going to make it if you want to use it abroad. I know you can tether but I prefer interchanging chips. Anybody else?
No more "grand master silicon"

Grand Master Silicon? Hell yeah. I also might buy one of those gsm-enabled versions... as I'm on tmobile..but the vzw device itself is in fact gsm capable.. to some extent

Blades said:
Grand Master Silicon? Hell yeah. I also might buy one of those gsm-enabled versions... as I'm on tmobile..but the vzw device itself is in fact gsm capable.. to some extent
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+1 Grand Master Silicon. LOL.
But seriously, yes I'd want a GSM model to be able to put in a SIM card, but only if it had all bands, not just 1900/2100 for T-mobile. I'd like to have it be capable for all bands but we can dream right?
They're already making a GSM Xoom, but its being released in Germany first. We already know the GSM exists its just up to Verizon to decide when to release the grip on Motorola's balls for the US launch.

Blades said:
Grand Master Silicon? Hell yeah. I also might buy one of those gsm-enabled versions... as I'm on tmobile..but the vzw device itself is in fact gsm capable.. to some extent
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Unfortunately the xoom is not "Grand Master Silicon" capable as it is a different technology, unless I got all this wrong? Let's hope verizon release moto balls soon.

knut150 said:
Unfortunately the xoom is not "Grand Master Silicon" capable as it is a different technology, unless I got all this wrong? Let's hope verizon release moto balls soon.
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lol.... he's making light of the fact that you misspelled "GSM" as "GMS" in your post like 5x, including the title.

yea I'm currently waiting for GSM xoom, would buy the wifi version instead but I'm on unlimited data plan so why not get 3G model and turn my xoom into a wireless hotspot when I'm not using it

ixemun said:
yea I'm currently waiting for GSM xoom, would buy the wifi version instead but I'm on unlimited data plan so why not get 3G model and turn my xoom into a wireless hotspot when I'm not using it
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who do you have as your carrier? iam wondering cause iam paying for a 2nd blackberry with unlimited data with att and i am wanting to use that sim with a tablet.
thanks

hkwong said:
who do you have as your carrier? iam wondering cause iam paying for a 2nd blackberry with unlimited data with att and i am wanting to use that sim with a tablet.
thanks
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nah I'm not from the US, so my carrier is alien to you all, my carrier has a student plan for data only (which I use for internet) about 30USD per month (7.2Mbps)

ixemun said:
nah I'm not from the US, so my carrier is alien to you all, my carrier has a student plan for data only (which I use for internet) about 30USD per month (7.2Mbps)
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hehe, seems you are coming from HK

I was waiting... but finally i bought the wi-fi version, i heard there is a Brazilian gsm version however...
knut150 said:
Although the majority seems to be waiting for the wifi xoom. I wonder if is just me waiting for the gsm model. I have the galaxy tab unlocked from tmo which I used without any problems recently in Germany. I got my xoom from Costco therefore (90 days return); so the CDMA is no going to make it if you want to use it abroad. I know you can tether but I prefer interchanging chips. Anybody else?
No more "grand master silicon"
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There's a thread (... or two?) where people have been playing around with turning their devices into GSM devices, some with more success than others. I personally wish it had been released with GSM/UMTS (provided it's unlocked and quad-band) as I travel a fair amount to GSM countries and it'd be nice to buy a local SIM and use my Xoom there, too. If such a device is released for the US market I'll probably get one, if there's a large enough gap between that one and the Xoom 2 (or maybe that'll be the one they release as GSM?)
The hardware does appear to be there in the CDMA VZ version (the same chip is used for both, but based on what one hacker has done, there's apparently some minor remaining issues with the baseband code).

Just get an MZ601? They're quadband, and everything.

ydaraishy said:
Just get an MZ601? They're quadband, and everything.
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No ****?! Huh. Now you tell me (But on the real, I bought like the 3rd day they were out, so it wasn't ready yet.)

kcrudup said:
No ****?! Huh. Now you tell me (But on the real, I bought like the 3rd day they were out, so it wasn't ready yet.)
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I was more meaning to answer the thread rather than your post specifically, though anyway...

LG H815 Test Unit??

Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.

i have one also people claim they can activaite with t-mobile or att but not verizon or sprint

rhoth1973 said:
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.

rhoth1973 said:
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.

kirdroid said:
Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.
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It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.

rhoth1973 said:
It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA

rhoth1973 said:
It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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The answer used to be Sprint is CDMA not GSM so you have the wrong phone if I am correct. Sorry. But now that they have LTE....
LTE is the same functionally (not bands though) among carriers. You may need to call Sprint and see if they have some sort of blocking enabled for that device.
More Info http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Can-I-use-my-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network

Bummer
Funk2641 said:
It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA
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That is a bummer...

rhoth1973 said:
That is a bummer...
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You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/

I see the light!
rahlquist said:
You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/
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Yes that I could! Thank you! :good:

rahlquist said:
Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.
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I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.

ixl4 said:
I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.
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Havent had any trouble with mms, sending photos from my G4 on t-mo to wifes G3.

What are the differences between the F500 and the H815? Here in Australia, the F500 is approximately $100 more expensive than the H815 on eBay. Of course, it hasn't been released yet and I believe that, when it is released, it will cost around $900. ( -_-)

In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.

the_scotsman said:
In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.
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I'm with the crappiest company; Vodafone. I didn't even know there were so many models of the G4. Thanks for that!
I don't use 4G/LTE. There's dodgy coverage in Perth and its suburbs (even just general 2G/3G) and I'm usually in reach of wifi.
I hope someone can make a list of all the models to make it easier to find the international model versus carrier models.

QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one

the_scotsman said:
QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one
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Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.

Speed test on T-Mobile.
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DeadSOL said:
Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.
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H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.

the_scotsman said:
H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.
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All righty. It does seem like the H815 is the international version.
I'll think about ordering it soon. I've already spent too much this month and I'm running out of money.

Mobile Networks Are Currently Blocked..?

Hey everyone, I could really use some help. (Sorry if this is in the wrong place)
I'm in the USA, on Verizon. I got a note FE the other day (SM-N935L) and went to put in the sim card but it keeps telling me the mobile networks are currently blocked and to contact customer service but I can't do that because I can't currently make calls or have data. Any help would be appreciated. If you need more info to possibly help, just let me know.
Thank you

This device doesn't work for Verizon or sprint it's GSM only.

scrumptyous said:
This device doesn't work for Verizon or sprint it's GSM only.
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Well... darn it... Do any of the models? And why doesn't it work? (Just asking so I can learn)

Jedibkj said:
Well... darn it... Do any of the models? And why doesn't it work? (Just asking so I can learn)
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Probably not,AT&T & T-Mobile are your best bets for using international phones on their networks & associated MVNOs.
Not trying to sound like a jerk,but,Google is your friend on the subject.
Here's a fairly recent write up giving a Readers Digest summary:
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhon...y-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Also,try these sites for specific device compatibility:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/
https://willmyphonework.net/
@Jedibkj :
Here's another older article attempting to clear the air on the subject of Verizon & phones from elsewhere/not branded/specific to their network:
https://www.cnet.com/news/bringing-your-own-smartphone-to-verizon-what-do-i-need-to-worry-about/
Also,here's Verizon's BYOD Compatibility page:
https://www.verizonwireless.com/bring-your-own-device/

Jedibkj said:
Well... darn it... Do any of the models? And why doesn't it work? (Just asking so I can learn)
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Yeah as stated above google helps you out tons when you are in the market for a new device. I never looked for international devices or non-carrier branded phones while I was with Verizon and Sprint they are CDMA and most unlocked devices are GSM. For me I just knew for most functions to work on my phone they had to have the sprint or verizon logo on them some where.
I have not looked back since I left both of the above companies because I feel I have so many more options now. There are others who have made the same mistake and I have seen their listings on ebay. There are lots of people looking for this device so at least you can get your money back by selling it if you need to. (swappa is a good option for selling as well)

Thank you for all the info! I thought it was CDMA compatible but I guess I was wrong.. :/ I need to check more before buying! Live and learn I guess... I'll probably end up reselling it.
Thank you for all the help!

My K model gets full LTE signal and bars on Cricket. I'm in Phoenix.

Can't get 4G

Hi, I have the unlocked essential phone from Amazon. Can anyone on AT&T share their APN settings with me? I have already tried a few I found on Google, and tried changing some settings with that special number you put in the dialer to no avail. No matter where go I get HSPA. Nothing else.

WiddleyScudds said:
Hi, I have the unlocked essential phone from Amazon. Can anyone on AT&T share their APN settings with me? I have already tried a few I found on Google, and tried changing some settings with that special number you put in the dialer to no avail. No matter where go I get HSPA. Nothing else.
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You told AT&T what device you have.... Didn't you...
If you did... You're not gonna get LTE...
BYOD... But get crap service
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rignfool said:
You told AT&T what device you have.... Didn't you...
If you did... You're not gonna get LTE...
BYOD... But get crap service
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Really? How does that work?

WiddleyScudds said:
Really? How does that work?
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I read it when I first got the device... It doesn't show in their system... So I still have LTE... But if I told them... I'd be screwed...
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I switched from Verizon to Att and was at a store with this very same Essential phone and we activated it right there and I have no issues with LTE! Hmmm!

starbiker99 said:
I switched from Verizon to Att and was at a store with this very same Essential phone and we activated it right there and I have no issues with LTE! Hmmm!
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What exactly is your point

rignfool said:
You told AT&T what device you have.... Didn't you...
If you did... You're not gonna get LTE...
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This is outrageous. So even if I was to submit a return for my device, and get a different unlocked phone, I would not be able to get 4G? I've used unlocked phones on AT&T & got LTE years ago!

WiddleyScudds said:
This is outrageous. So even if I was to submit a return for my device, and get a different unlocked phone, I would not be able to get 4G? I've used unlocked phones on AT&T & got LTE years ago!
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Yeah I think something else is up. I have constantly used unlocked phones on AT&T for the past 6 years and no issues. Even now I have the Essential and I have perfect LTE. Sorry man I wish I new what was up with your device, but I don't. Only thing I can think of is maybe you have a defective device and might think about returning it or warranty repair?

WiddleyScudds said:
This is outrageous. So even if I was to submit a return for my device, and get a different unlocked phone, I would not be able to get 4G? I've used unlocked phones on AT&T & got LTE years ago!
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I can't find the article I read... Nor the webpage that had the fine print I'm referring to...
Maybe they changed their policy... I know wifi calling and HD voice aren't available for essential... Because it's not an AT&T branded device...
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rignfool said:
I can't find the article I read... Nor the webpage that had the fine print I'm referring to...
Maybe they changed their policy... I know wifi calling and HD voice aren't available for essential... Because it's not an AT&T branded device...
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I dont care about wifi calling and I don't know what HD is. But I'll tell ya what. I'm pissed. This is my third phone this year because the other two wouldn't work at all. I just sent essential an email.

WiddleyScudds said:
I dont care about wifi calling and I don't know what HD is. But I'll tell ya what. I'm pissed. This is my third phone this year because the other two wouldn't work at all. I just sent essential an email.
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My understanding of the situation is it's all Big Blue's fault... And has nothing to do with essential...
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rignfool said:
My understanding of the situation is it's all Big Blue's fault... And has nothing to do with essential...
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Wouldn't doubt it. Nonetheless, thanks shedding some light on the issue. Luckily my dad still pays my bill, or I'd be out of there so fast. I hate AT&T.

doctahjeph said:
Yeah I think something else is up. I have constantly used unlocked phones on AT&T for the past 6 years and no issues. Even now I have the Essential and I have perfect LTE. Sorry man I wish I new what was up with your device, but I don't. Only thing I can think of is maybe you have a defective device and might think about returning it or warranty repair?
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So APN is not the problem, now I'm gonna have to drive to AT&T & make a scene. If anyone has any more info I'd be glad to hear it. If someone did change their APN and got it to work I'd love to know.

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My point is that Att knows that I have an Essential phone ( we installed the sims in the store) and in fact I have 2 of them on my account and they both use LTE. I have seen the H show up when traveling down I70 in Eastern Kansas but is almost always says LTE. Maybe I am misunderstanding the issue here. Here are my APN settings.
Edit: I also am set to Global under prefered network types. Where I live the Speed seems much faster than set on 4G/LTE from my speed tests 45Mb vs 20Mb not sure if that is scientific or not.

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My point is that Att knows that I have an Essential phone ( we installed the sims in the store) and in fact I have 2 of them on my account and they both use LTE. I have seen the H show up when traveling down I70 in Eastern Kansas but is almost always says LTE. Maybe I am misunderstanding the issue here. Here are my APN settings.
Edit: I also am set to Global under prefered network types. Where I live the Speed seems much faster than set on 4G/LTE from my speed tests 45Mb vs 20Mb not sure if that is scientific or not.
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I can't get service at all on the NXTGENPHONE APN. Only the attached phone one works.

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I have an idea tell me if you think it'll work. I just re read the thread that kinda explains this. I go back to at&t and have them put a new sim card in my old Zenfone 2, which is micro SD. It is unlocked and I had 4G working on it. Then cut the sim card and put it in the essential phone and Bam. What do you think? Or is it already in this "database"?

WiddleyScudds said:
I have an idea tell me if you think it'll work. I just re read the thread that kinda explains this. I go back to at&t and have them put a new sim card in my old Zenfone 2, which is micro SD. It is unlocked and I had 4G working on it. Then cut the sim card and put it in the essential phone and Bam. What do you think? Or is it already in this "database"?
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Essential is now supported on AT&T.
https://twitter.com/Arubin/status/968967961661792256?s=19

doctahjeph said:
Essential is now supported on AT&T.
https://twitter.com/Arubin/status/968967961661792256?s=19
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You mean 4G is now supported? The phone has always been supported.

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You mean 4G is now supported? The phone has always been supported.
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Yes while you could use the device on AT&T as many of have it was not a recognized device by at&t. If you gave them your IMEI they wouldn't recognize the device as an official AT&T compatible device. Why some people like yourself don't get the full AT&T experience like LTE. That won't be an issue now. The essential PH-1 is an officially recognized device by AT&T.

So do I need a new sim now? I've been messing around with settings and still can't get 4G.

Carrier for after the 3g shutdown?

Apparently mint mobile is dropping band 2 support which will degrade my already crappy reception further. I also don't get volte with them either despite the phone being capable of this. Any alternatives, or is this just a paperweight after the shutdown?
edit: I think I have the xt1962-5 model since I have dual sim. https://www.phonemore.com/models/motorola/moto-g7/

If you can switch to AT&T that might solve the problem depending on your specific model.
This is the AT&T whitelist from April, more may have been added, check for the updated list if not on here:

blackhawk said:
If you can switch to AT&T that might solve the problem depending on your specific model.
This is the AT&T whitelist from April, more may have been added, check for the updated list if not on here:
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Looks like the xt1962-1 is there but not the xt1962-5

ordealio97 said:
Looks like the xt1962-1 is there but not the xt1962-5
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Check for a more recent AT&T whitelist...

blackhawk said:
Check for a more recent AT&T whitelist...
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Not seeing a more recent AT&T whitelist.

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Not seeing a more recent AT&T whitelist.
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If you have an AT&T phone you can 611 and ask for advanced tech support.
There may be a work around like flashing different firmware but that's as much as I know.
3G is KIA... 4G LTE/VoLTE should be good till at least the end of this decade.

blackhawk said:
If you have an AT&T phone you can 611 and ask for advanced tech support.
There may be a work around like flashing different firmware but that's as much as I know.
3G is KIA... 4G LTE/VoLTE should be good till at least the end of this decade.
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Thanks. This is the most tech savvy place for the moto g7 so hopefully someone here knows. I don't have a lot of spare time to experiment with different firmwares, but I currently have lineageOS 18.1 for anyone wondering if that's a solution (it's not). One could only hope these carriers get sued for rolling out proprietary volte provisioning like this. Totally uncalled for, and shame on motorola for not being upfront about this before I bought the phone.

ordealio97 said:
Thanks. This is the most tech savvy place for the moto g7 so hopefully someone here knows. I don't have a lot of spare time to experiment with different firmwares, but I currently have lineageOS 18.1 for anyone wondering if that's a solution (it's not). One could only hope these carriers get sued for rolling out proprietary volte provisioning like this. Totally uncalled for, and shame on motorola for not being upfront about this before I bought the phone.
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It's a matter of limited resources. AT&T supports most of their variants and certain unlocked ones.
It caught me off guard too, but I lucked out.
It wasn't until both my phones worked that I was sure it would work. The transition was seamless.