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Amazon selling unlocked Galaxy Tab (international version with phone capability)

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Unloc...arranty/dp/tech-data/B0041RSF6Y/ref=de_a_smtd

$1000?? that's crazy. I was hoping it would be close to $600...

flo7002 said:
$1000?? that's crazy. I was hoping it would be close to $600...
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AND they claim no warranty. Oh sign me up!

That's about what you pay in Europe, u didn't think you could get it cheaper, did you?

Nice and all but the problem is, even if it were $600, you would not get a 3G connection here in the states due to the radio in the device.

they have the US version here.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00480P67K
but they want an arm and two legs for it.

I don't see where it says that it's phone is enabled....

I just checked with Sprint, they wanted $550 without plan. So can this be unlocked?

Vikmal said:
That's about what you pay in Europe, u didn't think you could get it cheaper, did you?
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638.546 USD <<< thats what the tab costs unlocked in the UK with 2 year warranty
Edit : Just noticed this thread is old

Will international version make\receive calls in the USA?
I don't want to carry two devices but want a tablet.
this one is supposed to do both...
amazon.com/Samsung-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Memory-International-Warranty/dp/tech-data/B0041RSF6Y/ref=de_a_smtd
What will I be giving up using it in the US?
Thanks in advance

Depending on which US carrier you'll be using, it would be better to buy a carrier-specific Tab and then flash it with a modem/rom that enables voice calling.

rogconnect said:
I just checked with Sprint, they wanted $550 without plan. So can this be unlocked?
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I think it could be unlocked.
I bought one from att and unlock it and now is working in mexico using telcel (including 3G)
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How compatible is the atrix with T-Mobile?

Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
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Lint6 said:
Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
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Nope, you will only get 2G (EDGE).

t-mobile and at&t use different 3G frequencies, so if you unlock it you will only get EDGE speeds. Not worthy IMO, you have lots of options in your country, i would recommend to wait for the samsung galaxy s II phone.

Will work on the network but data will be at Edge speeds, not 4G.
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Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
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nucentury08 said:
Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
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On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.

alphadog00 said:
On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.
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Just ignore him, hes been trolling all over the Atrix forums. The gyroscope in his phone apparently makes his keyboard so fast that he cant use punctuation.

Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE

nuoten18 said:
Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE
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nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.

I knew 99% it won't work but i took the challenge anyway ..
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nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.
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don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."

nuoten18 said:
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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That code process is to unlock the phone to enable it to be used with networks other than AT&T. But that doesn't get you data speed any faster than 2G/Edge using an Atrix on T-Mobile's network.

I'm a little confused here. You guys are saying that the Atrix will only get 2G/EDGE speeds on TMobile because the frequencies are different.
I am currently using the Nexus One.. how is it that I'm getting 3G speeds with a phone that is compatible with both AT&T and TMobile then??
Doesnt this mean that the Atrix should be able to get 3G speeds as long as it has the appropriate software? or am I not understanding something..

There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
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nuoten18 said:
don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
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False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.

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False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.
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The Nokia N8 and E7 also have the 3G frequencies necessary for both At&t and T-mobile, as well as Europe/Asia (850/900/1700/1900/2100). However, I agree with you that no At&t/T-mobile branded device carries all the needed bands.
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Touchscreen-Featuring-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B003ZX7RL4
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B0046LTU9G

Vibrant can be used on T-Mo and AT&T as well

bimmerboii said:
There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
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Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.

Enforcerman said:
Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.
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Here's a list of phones that will work with tmobile 3G. Take your pick. You may have to source it from somewhere else if you wish to buy it unlocked and unbranded.
The Nexus S is unlocked and unbranded even if you get it from tmobile. But since you are coming from the Nexus One, it is up to you if its worth the upgrade. Other than the Nexus S, have a look at dual core phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php...nes=0&sColor=&StandBy=0&TalkTime=0&sFreeText=

Atrix on t-mobile
i am currently running atrix 4g on system version 4.5.141 and android version 2.3.6.. I am rooted and have and unlocked boot loader. I also got the unlock code for my phone and it was successful and i am now running T-mobile sim chip i am only getting the Edge .. I have a thought as if you could change the phone frequency settings with sqlite editor i mean if you can disable the entitlement_check to enable theathering with AT&T's 2gb plan then we should be able to figure out how to change the frequency ratings of the phone to be able to run on t-mobiles 4g ... I wish that someone with a little more Knowledge could help out with this..

Samsung Galaxy S2.. on at&t!

This just in:
Original news link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hits-the-fcc-potentially-ready-for-atandt-3g/
FCC Link:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=273771&fcc_id='A3LGTI9100'
I'd be really happy if it does come on at&t bands because all of Canadia works on the same bands

that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.

Either way he can use it just fine, so it's a lot to get excited about

he could use it without fcc's approval...
also engadget was really slow this is friday's news
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...mode_i708_prototype_hit_the_fcc-news-2412.php
what did you think? ffc doesn't work on sundays

Well I for one happy about this.
I held out for waiting for the atrix, but in the end it just wasn't enough for me. I have a captivate and have enjoyed having it rooted and running froyo way before AT&T and sammy got off their ass.

i fully expect the s2 to have all the same bands that the galaxy s1 had, and the omnia hd also had, the same quadband coverage, dont expect anything to change here. because they are the most widely used bands, perfect for an international model.

Oh man, this is getting harder and harder.
Is going to be either SGS2 or iP5.
So difficult.

i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.

This was known for a while now, that the Galaxy S 2 wwould work on ATT 3G bands. What is not known is whether ATT will pick up the phone or not.
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They would be fools not to pick it up.
Phones are just bait to get and keep subscribers. The phone should be a great device.

If this is a AT&T only phone, there is no justice in the world.

The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.

Yeah, that is true.
If AT&T does get they will probably request that sammy retard the phone some how. Like taking away some of the radios or no front facing camera.
I'm hoping they wont do that this time, but they probably will find some way to screw it up.

Agreed! I won't ever buy a AT&T retarded phone again, if there is an international one available I will pay extra for it. Like the Captivate vs i9000.

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that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
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vista1984 said:
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
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I completely understand if you guys didn't dig into FCC documents to read what they said, I don't blame you, but just to clarify, the device passed is an 850/1900 ONLY phone, meaning it can only be for AT&T or Canadian carriers.
Other versions will likely be released, but the version that passed FCC is not going to work on other US carriers.
MikeyMike01 said:
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
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We'll have to see if they strip out features again. FFC is a must, and I don't think they'll strip that out. I think they took that out last time because the network wasn't ready for video calling. They wanted HSPA+ prior to letting people use video calling. Other phones AT&T sells have an FFC now, so I don't think the SGS2 will be any different.
Other than that, what, FM radio and no HSUPA? AT&T SAYS they are going to start rolling out HSUPA, we'll see, if not I'm sure a radio swap with an international version will work again. And FM radio would be a nice addition, but I certainly won't make a decision on a phone over it. I can always use TuneIn and iheartradio if I really want to listen to my ****ty local stations. Oh, and a flash on the camera. That one actually may sway my decision to buy it if they don't include a flash. That was one of the stupidest things I've seen, but I found that I don't care about flash for pictures as much as I do for a flashlight. Most cell phone pictures taken with flash look like crap anyway.
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!

AJerman said:
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.

madgraph said:
Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Because I don't want to spend that much on a phone right now. I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy, so I have to limit myself. Depending on the cost on AT&T, I'm up for upgrade price plus $50 off. If it hits a $200 price point again I can probably get it for $150. We don't even know what will be different between the two yet.

AJerman said:
I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy,
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I'm sorry.
Sent from my Captivate

But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?

andrew53517 said:
But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
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HSPA+, fully unlocked

Tab 7.7 AT&T LTE version

We all saw the Verizon version will soon be on sale but has anyway read anything about a possible AT&T version? I kind of a recall a while back some article saying it went through FCC with AT&T frequencies but it may have been confused with the Galaxy Plus...

Alcibiade said:
We all saw the Verizon version will soon be on sale but has anyway read anything about a possible AT&T version? I kind of a recall a while back some article saying it went through FCC with AT&T frequencies but it may have been confused with the Galaxy Plus...
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Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!
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While I agree that you should always buy an unlocked phone if possible, if he wants ATT LTE (4G) he's kinda stuck with buying it from them.

Ricey said:
While I agree that you should always buy an unlocked phone if possible, if he wants ATT LTE (4G) he's kinda stuck with buying it from them.
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True... For now... At least until manufacturers start making unlocked multi-band LTE devices.
Besides, with LTE not being unlimited, it's kinda pointless at this stage. Let the technology (and rate plans) mature a bit more first.

If you must really have the LTE then I would wait for either Verizon or ATT version. But remember you wont have phone capabilities with the Verizon or ATT version.
I am using ATT Go Phone Prepaid on my 7.7. I am in NY and the data speeds are actually pretty fast. I average about 4-6mbps download speeds. Web pages load very fast. For me its good enough.

Yeah, while LTE speeds are amazing, at present I don't have a whole lot of use for them on a tablet. I suppose one should really determine if they need to use it for video streaming/conferencing where there is no WiFi. Otherwise, 3G suffices for most casual use.
The US could actually do with a bit more oversight and regulation in this area so we could use LTE without having to worry about asinine limitations.

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
Never, ever, EVER, EVER, EVER buy a device which has been carrier subsidized!
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I bought my original Tab from AT&T but didn't buy the subsidized version...
Anyway although I understand it has downsides since the IMEI is in the database of the carrier (Yeah it costed me my unlimited plan last year...) t doesn't create that many problems after a bit of clean-up (I use a derivative of CM7.2 (Boca) and also unlocked the device)
Anyway go for he international if you wish, on my side I would really like to have the IR port (No saying the AT&T version will have it but oping for it). And if you want to enjoy LTE speeds just forget about the international version
Anyway... waiting for more versions to be out worldwide in order to pick the best one for me

spridell said:
If you must really have the LTE then I would wait for either Verizon or ATT version. But remember you wont have phone capabilities with the Verizon or ATT version.
I am using ATT Go Phone Prepaid on my 7.7. I am in NY and the data speeds are actually pretty fast. I average about 4-6mbps download speeds. Web pages load very fast. For me its good enough.
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Verizon no thanks... I travel extensively outside the US and want to be able to use my Tab abroad
For the AT&T version I don't know if it will have voice enabled or not. That's why I am asking i anybody has any news about it. I am curious to see if it has voice enabled or the IR port. Just remember the initial Tab on AT&T was not offciially voice capable but this was fixed quite easily...
Again I am more into checking my options than purchasing anything. My original Tab is actually pretty fast and if my battery life was not getting more and more scarce I would probably wait a while before buying anything new

Alcibiade said:
Verizon no thanks... I travel extensively outside the US and want to be able to use my Tab abroad
For the AT&T version I don't know if it will have voice enabled or not. That's why I am asking i anybody has any news about it. I am curious to see if it has voice enabled or the IR port. Just remember the initial Tab on AT&T was not offciially voice capable but this was fixed quite easily...
Again I am more into checking my options than purchasing anything. My original Tab is actually pretty fast and if my battery life was not getting more and more scarce I would probably wait a while before buying anything new
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I can just about guarantee that the AT&T version will NOT be voice enabled. Read my article linked in the previous posts, and you'll understand why.
Buy the international/unlocked 7.7, especially if you travel a lot, and don't look back.
P.S. Don't forget to make sure that AT&T gets a good look at your proud middle finger!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
I can just about guarantee that the AT&T version will NOT be voice enabled. Read my article linked in the previous posts, and you'll understand why.
Buy the international/unlocked 7.7, especially if you travel a lot, and don't look back.
P.S. Don't forget to make sure that AT&T gets a good look at your proud middle finger!
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What is for sure is about products that are already out... So what is 100% sure is your international version won't have the IR port. Period. And this is a function I really want to have
For the AT&T version although I believe it is likely it won't have voice enabled, let's wait and see. I am not in a hurry since anyway there is so far no custom ROM for the Tab 7.7. Besides it is quite possible the AT&T will be able to get voice capability
Ideally I'd like voice + IR while I can do without LTE (Even though living in NYC and travelling often to Japan, LTE is actually an interesting option)
Anyway hopefully we will see more and more versions out here and some countries may have it all. If not then I'll pick what seems the best compromise for me

I was just looking at these they negri electronics for the price of a 3g/wifi version for voice usage. If the 7 plus had the same screen and ran 3g if be interested but I'll take the 7.7 with no issue. Anyone know the cheapest place to get one. Negri was at $678 if I remember correctly.
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Does anyone know how much the Verizon version will cost at subsidized prices? I mean if it's going to be like the zoom ($499 - $599) when it was first release, might as well get the international version since price won't be that much different.
By the way Jade Eyed Wolf, were you able to sell your Galaxy Note? I have mine and love it but also want the galaxy tab 7.7... my wife is going to kill me if I keep both... it's going to be like $1400 for both devices... I'm trying to sell all my tablets so that I can afford it though.

ckyllr said:
Does anyone know how much the Verizon version will cost at subsidized prices? I mean if it's going to be like the zoom ($499 - $599) when it was first release, might as well get the international version since price won't be that much different.
By the way Jade Eyed Wolf, were you able to sell your Galaxy Note? I have mine and love it but also want the galaxy tab 7.7... my wife is going to kill me if I keep both... it's going to be like $1400 for both devices... I'm trying to sell all my tablets so that I can afford it though.
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I still have my Note at this time. I haven't yet put it up on eBay. I'm debating on whether or not I want to hang onto it until it get's official ICS and see what it's like then. Depending on that experience, it's either my Note or my GS2 that goes. Both are in perfect condition though!

Jade Eyed Wolf said:
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Yeah have a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468066
Buying a (more expensive) international version doesn't guarantee you'll manage to go unnoticed by these $$$ suckers...

Alcibiade said:
What is for sure is about products that are already out... So what is 100% sure is your international version won't have the IR port. Period. And this is a function I really want to have
For the AT&T version although I believe it is likely it won't have voice enabled, let's wait and see. I am not in a hurry since anyway there is so far no custom ROM for the Tab 7.7. Besides it is quite possible the AT&T will be able to get voice capability
Ideally I'd like voice + IR while I can do without LTE (Even though living in NYC and travelling often to Japan, LTE is actually an interesting option)
Anyway hopefully we will see more and more versions out here and some countries may have it all. If not then I'll pick what seems the best compromise for me
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I just posted my thoughts on the IR port over in the general thread. You should have a read.
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Alcibiade said:
Yeah have a look there
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468066
Buying a (more expensive) international version doesn't guarantee you'll manage to go unnoticed by these $$$ suckers...
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Yeah I read that... Bad news indeed if this universally applies. However, I haven't personally experienced any issues apart from being notified that I'm among the top 5% of data users and that I may get throttled blah blah blah. So we'll see...

You can use the Moto G on a MVNO if you buy it at full price

Just finished talking to Verizon and they said that if I buy the phone in store at $199, full retail price for the Moto G, you can use it on a different CDMA carrier! So for all you people wanting to activate the G on Net10/Tracfone/Page Plus, there you go.
wws12

Walliser said:
Which carries are CDMA?
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Net10, tracfone, page plus, I think paygo, and others.

wws12 said:
Just finished talking to Verizon and they said that if I buy the phone in store at $199, full retail price for the Moto G, you can use it on a different CDMA carrier! So for all you people wanting to activate the G on Net10/Tracfone/Page Plus, there you go.
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THANKS!
The problem is where else can we get a CDMA version of moto-g besides BB/Verizon; it is not (yet) available from motorola.com. I just called them and the sale people said they have not info as to when/where/whether or not the CDMA version will be available beside BB/Verizon. And in my case, I'm interested in the tracfone BYOP (as opposed to net10/ST), and it's not at all clear if tracfone BYOP would allow moto-g (although it might be more of a tracfone issue as opposed to a MNVO issue).
I am excited to hear about this possibility. Please keep us informed if you (or anyone) managed to score a full-priced CDMA moto-g (esp the 16G one) and get activated.

case-sensitive said:
THANKS!
The problem is where else can we get a CDMA version of moto-g besides BB/Verizon; it is not (yet) available from motorola.com. I just called them and the sale people said they have not info as to when/where/whether or not the CDMA version will be available beside BB/Verizon. And in my case, I'm interested in the tracfone BYOP (as opposed to net10/ST), and it's not at all clear if tracfone BYOP would allow moto-g (although it might be more of a tracfone issue as opposed to a MNVO issue).
I am excited to hear about this possibility. Please keep us informed if you (or anyone) managed to score a full-priced CDMA moto-g (esp the 16G one) and get activated.
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I talked to Motorola on their chat and they said that they are planning on selling the CDMA version on motorola.com, presumably without any restrictions. No date yet though. If I had to guess, I would say before the end of the month, but don't quote me on that. As another wanting to activate on Tracfone BYOP, I hope it gets here soon.

This might be a stupid question, but what are the advantages of CDMA? Clearly anything I know wont apply since the last CDMA network over here was shut down in the late 90's.
I've always wondered about the CDMA/GSM war that you lot have in the US. Clearly there must be some upside or GSM would've won already.

ares93 said:
This might be a stupid question, but what are the advantages of CDMA? Clearly anything I know wont apply since the last CDMA network over here was shut down in the late 90's.
I've always wondered about the CDMA/GSM war that you lot have in the US. Clearly there must be some upside or GSM would've won already.
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There's really no advantage, especially since more and more carriers are moving to LTE. LTE kind of unifies GSM and CDMA with SIM cards. However, carriers that don't support LTE yet or ones that reserve LTE for their postpaid devices (Verizon and others) require CDMA devices.

wws12 said:
I talked to Motorola on their chat and they said that they are planning on selling the CDMA version on motorola.com, presumably without any restrictions. No date yet though. If I had to guess, I would say before the end of the month, but don't quote me on that. As another wanting to activate on Tracfone BYOP, I hope it gets here soon.
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I have serious doubts the Moto G will work with tracfone.

mrfeh said:
I have serious doubts the Moto G will work with tracfone.
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Tracfone has a BYOP program now for CDMA 3G phones.
tracfonewireless.com/byop

wws12 said:
Tracfone has a BYOP program now for CDMA 3G phones.
tracfonewireless.com/byop
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Yup, I know. I'd love to use the CDMA Moto G w/ tracfone, so I spent some time interacting with their user support. They would not commit to saying it would work, so I'm assuming it won't. I don't think Verizon will allow it.

wws12 said:
Tracfone has a BYOP program now for CDMA 3G phones.
tracfonewireless.com/byop
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According to posts on the howards forum, except for a couple of "accidental cases" no one has been able to activative a NEW, Droid X2/Droid 3 (which are still on 2.3) CDMA 3g phone on tracfone BYOP. Now, tracfone's BYOP program is still very new and there are lots of quirks to be ironed out, and personally I really look forward to getting one myself, but for now I'm not holding my breath.
Please prove me wrong.

case-sensitive said:
According to posts on the howards forum, except for a couple of "accidental cases" no one has been able to activative a NEW, Droid X2/Droid 3 (which are still on 2.3) CDMA 3g phone on tracfone BYOP. Now, tracfone's BYOP program is still very new and there are lots of quirks to be ironed out, and personally I really look forward to getting one myself, but for now I'm not holding my breath.
Please prove me wrong.
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I was able to activate a used Samsung Fascinate with this phone number 1-800-876-5753. Don't know if it makes a difference whether it's used or not. You can plug your MEID in this website tracfonewireless.com/byop and it will supposedly tell you if it's compatible or not. Don't trust it though, as their website has never worked right for me.

mrfeh said:
Yup, I know. I'd love to use the CDMA Moto G w/ tracfone, so I spent some time interacting with their user support. They would not commit to saying it would work, so I'm assuming it won't. I don't think Verizon will allow it.
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If you buy it at $199, Verizon can't say anything about it because you are under no obligation to them whatsoever, monetary subsidy or contractual.

wws12 said:
If you buy it at $199, Verizon can't say anything about it because you are under no obligation to them whatsoever, monetary subsidy or contractual.
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I'm not aware of a $199 CDMA Moto G. I know they sell the GSM version at that price, which could be used w/ other carriers, but tracfone's byop program is for CDMA only.
I'd want some evidence that it will actually work before I buy the phone, and I haven't seen it yet.

mrfeh said:
I'm not aware of a $199 CDMA Moto G. I know they sell the GSM version at that price, which could be used w/ other carriers, but tracfone's byop program is for CDMA only.
I'd want some evidence that it will actually work before I buy the phone, and I haven't seen it yet.
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Dude, check this link.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/new/prepaid/smartphone-plans/moto-g-by-motorola+prepaid/
Notice how it says "Full Retail Price" for $199.00. Again, I confirmed this with a Verizon representative.

wws12 said:
Dude, check this link.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/new/prepaid/smartphone-plans/moto-g-by-motorola+prepaid/
Notice how it says "Full Retail Price" for $199.00. Again, I confirmed this with a Verizon representative.
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Thanks for the link. I clicked on it and noticed that the $199 "full retail price" version still has just 8GB of storage. That is a major bummer/ripe-off (by VZW).

wws12 said:
Dude, check this link.
http://www.verizonwireless.com/new/prepaid/smartphone-plans/moto-g-by-motorola+prepaid/
Notice how it says "Full Retail Price" for $199.00. Again, I confirmed this with a Verizon representative.
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What did you confirm? How can a Verizon rep confirm it will work w/ Tracfone?
I'm waiting for either a) confirmation from a Tracfone rep that it will work or b) confirmation from a Tracfone customer.

wws12 said:
There's really no advantage, especially since more and more carriers are moving to LTE. LTE kind of unifies GSM and CDMA with SIM cards. However, carriers that don't support LTE yet or ones that reserve LTE for their postpaid devices (Verizon and others) require CDMA devices.
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If there is no advantage, why did it survive past 3G in the US when it didn't in most other parts of the the world? Here in Sweden it was abandoned in 1996, I believe. Which puts in on par with 2G GSM. I think there is still one minor carrier that operates mobile broadband on CDMA450, but that's the closest we come to CDMA. No phones. Clearly there was a reason you didn't abandon it when we did. There must've been a reason to continue to develop the infrastructure. However as far as I know, there is no advantage in speed, call quality or coverage.
Admittedly, I have limited experience with CDMA. I've use CDMA phones three times in my life and I've owned exactly one CDMA phone. And not by choice. It was pre-installed in my work truck. Part of some fancy police crap that was useless outside the US.
Walliser said:
Here are some software solutions online where you have to resort to programs that run in the background to monitor wireless activities.
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Think you missed a link there, mate. Thanks though.

mrfeh said:
What did you confirm? How can a Verizon rep confirm it will work w/ Tracfone?
I'm waiting for either a) confirmation from a Tracfone rep that it will work or b) confirmation from a Tracfone customer.
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I confirmed it can even be done in the first place. If you want to wait, go ahead. I just thought I would share what I found concerning Verizon's prepaid phones.

ares93 said:
If there is no advantage, why did it survive past 3G in the US when it didn't in most other parts of the the world? Here in Sweden it was abandoned in 1996, I believe. Which puts in on par with 2G GSM. I think there is still one minor carrier that operates mobile broadband on CDMA450, but that's the closest we come to CDMA. No phones. Clearly there was a reason you didn't abandon it when we did. There must've been a reason to continue to develop the infrastructure. However as far as I know, there is no advantage in speed, call quality or coverage.
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I can't speak for the technical aspects, but the largest CDMA carrier here (Verizon), while really evil, does have very good nation-wide coverage, especially outside of major cities. So if you live outside of major cities and/or travel a lot, then CDMA becomes a very attractive (and sometimes, the only) option.
(disclaimer: of course "very good nation-wide coverage" is subjective and there are certainly plenty of holes in the coverage map, so hold your flame please )

Has anyone tried to buy one at full retail price from Verizon? It is my understanding from talking to a verizon sales rep. they are not allowed to and have no means to do so.