Hi,
What would be decent replacement for our x2, but not to cost double than amount paid for x2, most paid 120-150eur.
Will there be such device in near future?
Maybe Poco F1 after 1 year, if price drops to 150$, or Xiaomi redmi Note 8 pro .
Doubt you'll get a phone with flagship grade (SD8XX) chipset for €120 probably ever, or at least not until it's over two years old. Even still now, HTC 10 Evo, with ****ty SD810, is minimum $150, and Moto Z with 820 like Max 2 is $200. Doubt the Pocophone will get much cheaper than its original price either - it's already ridiculously cheap, Xiaomi wouldn't make any money on it at all if they sold it for less.
Related
[Deal Alert] Xiaomi Mi MIX 18k 6GB RAM 256GB ROM Price Dropped to €666 [worldwide Free Shipping]
So now Xiaomi dropping prices of the Mi Mix and we all know that the Mi Mix 2 is coming soon + new competitors entering to challenge Mi Mix design.
Until then We all can enjoy with lower prices ,
Store: Banggood.com
http://www.gsmarena.com/deal_xiaomi...h_256_gb_rom_for_less_than_700-news-23844.php
The Maze Alpha Is A Serious Rival To The Xiaomi Mi Mix
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.gizchina.com/2017/03/10/video-maze-alpha-serious-rival-xiaomi-mi-mix/
that sure isn't much of a price drop considering i paid a similar price in november from chinavision
This is misleading info, xiaomi hasn't dropped their price on mix at all, official price is still exactly the same. What you seeing here is reseller dropping price, most likely because the hype is over and they are trying to sell their stock.
It has nothing to do with mix 2 and we won't be seeing mix 2 anytime soon also. They only just started working on it so give it until later this year before you start seeing actual info about it.
P. S. And ya, that price is pretty much what others was asking a long time ago
I was looking at this model since it came out and all the retailers who ships worldwide asked for over 1000$, maybe you are talking on 128GB? the 18K is the most expensive model.
I read few post on MIUI forum:
http://en.miui.com/thread-411980-1-1.html
http://www.gsmarena.com/deal_xiaomi...h_256_gb_rom_for_less_than_700-news-23844.php
maybe you are right and now they are easier to get and retailers can lower prices, but some competition on it's way;
http://www.gizchina.com/2017/03/10/video-maze-alpha-serious-rival-xiaomi-mi-mix/
Xperia-Ray said:
I was looking at this model since it came out and all the retailers who ships worldwide asked for over 1000$, maybe you are talking on 128GB? the 18K is the most expensive model.
I read few post on MIUI forum:
http://en.miui.com/thread-411980-1-1.html
http://www.gsmarena.com/deal_xiaomi...h_256_gb_rom_for_less_than_700-news-23844.php
maybe you are right and now they are easier to get and retailers can lower prices, but some competition on it's way;
http://www.gizchina.com/2017/03/10/video-maze-alpha-serious-rival-xiaomi-mi-mix/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am well aware of the model difference, of course I am talking the more expensive model. When I bought mine back in December, the world wide shipping price was around 850 USD, many buyers here got theirs around that price.
Some sites are charging quite a bit more than the others, but price from official has always been the same. If you lucky enough to snap one from xiaomi, it's 3999 RMB, which is around 580 USD. I got mine just below 700 USD last year. 18k gold 6GB ram version that is.
Xperia-Ray said:
I was looking at this model since it came out and all the retailers who ships worldwide asked for over 1000$, maybe you are talking on 128GB? the 18K is the most expensive model.
I read few post on MIUI forum:
http://en.miui.com/thread-411980-1-1.html
http://www.gsmarena.com/deal_xiaomi...h_256_gb_rom_for_less_than_700-news-23844.php
maybe you are right and now they are easier to get and retailers can lower prices, but some competition on it's way;
http://www.gizchina.com/2017/03/10/video-maze-alpha-serious-rival-xiaomi-mi-mix/
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you obviously haven't read the huge thread about where to buy then cause similar prices have been available from the very start of this phone going on sale
The maze seems like vapor hardware atm too, not sure what it really has to offer - new company going in on a new idea with no previous entries. That's a pretty big risk to take in this market. I got my mix 6gb 256GB for about 850 everything included, Chinese rom and sealed.
Anyone want to bid this Mi Mix from eBay?
https://www.ebay.com.hk/itm/272599229873
Wtf!?
http://www.madephone.com/xiaomi-mi-mix-4gb-128gb-4g-lte-snapdragon-821-quad-core-235ghz-p-6566.html I'm very very tempted to try this especially for that price!!?? But idk something doesn't seem right.
I saw a T-Mobile kiosk at Costco selling the S8 for $599 with no strings attached. This works for me since I'm in the market for a phone and am a T-Mobile customer. I'm holding out for a reduced pixel 1 price once the pixel 2 is released. The max I'd spend is 600 so unless the Galaxy will drop any further then this seems like a good deal. Thought I'd crowd source some perspective before pulling the trigger. Budget is 600 and under, and I'd prefer the pixel line or the Galaxy line. I'd consider the LG V30 but assuming that will be outside my budget.
OK so the N5X is 3 years old now... any new phones out or coming out that are similar in price (budget-mid price range), and will have similar custom ROM support?
Just curious, as my N5X is still going strong, but there seems to be a roadblock on getting Android Pie to be fully functional in the few attempts I see (encryption?)
I've been keeping an eye on the new Nokia #.1 devices, and other similar specc'd phones.
Thanks.
I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
meciu99 said:
I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Perhaps in function, but they cost quite a bit more.
meciu99 said:
I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I replaced my Nexus 5x with an Essential PH-1 on Prime day. This is the first non Nexus device I ever owned but it's very much a spiritual successor to the Nexus lineup. I am waiting for it to go back on sale again so I can pick one up for my mom.
I would consider something like the OnePlus/Oppo if it were available on Sprint but unfortunately my device selection is limited being on this provider.
btux81 said:
I replaced my Nexus 5x with an Essential PH-1 on Prime day. This is the first non Nexus device I ever owned but it's very much a spiritual successor to the Nexus lineup. I am waiting for it to go back on sale again so I can pick one up for my mom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Those are still pretty spendy at $400+. I'm looking for the $300 or less range, same as the 5X was. I really can't see spending that much for a phone, as I'm not quite as hooked into it as some seem to be, I just need a nice reliable device I can customize easily like the 5X.
Nokia 7+ or Xiaomi Mi A2. Both Android One.
Nokia 7.1 (processor isn’t very good though), Nokia 7.1 Plus (awesome if launches globally near China price) or Nokia 8.1 (TBA).
ahmed.shaikh626 said:
Nokia 7.1 (processor isn’t very good though), Nokia 7.1 Plus (awesome if launches globally near China price) or Nokia 8.1 (TBA).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I was looking at the Nokia phones as well. I'm in the US, so want to purchase them here so they have a warranty valid in the US.
Any more thoughts on this topic as the holiday sales are upon us?
@g90814: try Cypher OS in the meantime
rp158 said:
@g90814: try Cypher OS in the meantime
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did... a little quirky, kept locking up, other little issues. I don't think Pie will be viable for the N5X in the long run.
Right now I'm running latest Oreo stock but rooted with Magisk and Franco kernel.
I'm asking about new phones, not ways to keep my old phone running.
Thanks.
@g90814, you're welcome
The Pixel 1 and Pixel 2 prices are about 300-500 bucks now. And that is very good.
vdhero said:
The Pixel 1 and Pixel 2 prices are about 300-500 bucks now. And that is very good.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Older phones. I'm looking for more current ones.
g90814 said:
Older phones. I'm looking for more current ones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can try the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE or The Pocophone F1 the Poco has a flagship specs with snapdragon 845 but its camera is not pretty good because Xiaomi just nerf the Poco's camera in the stock camera so you have to install a google camera. Mi 8 SE has snapdragon 710 which is quite rare and according to some people, it's a Snapdragon 845 with a weaker GPU.
vdhero said:
you can try the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE or The Pocophone F1 the Poco has a flagship specs with snapdragon 845 but its camera is not pretty good because Xiaomi just nerf the Poco's camera in the stock camera so you have to install a google camera. Mi 8 SE has snapdragon 710 which is quite rare and according to some people, it's a Snapdragon 845 with a weaker GPU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Xiaomi Mi 8 SE not available in US as of now unless you want it shipped from China.
Pocophone is an option, but a little expensive for my tastes ($345 for 64GB model) and not available with US warranty (yet).
g90814 said:
Xiaomi Mi 8 SE not available in US as of now unless you want it shipped from China.
Pocophone is an option, but a little expensive for my tastes ($345 for 64GB model) and not available with US warranty (yet).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From everything I found, at that price point, the Pocophone is the best one, anything cheaper is way worse and not many things a little bit more expensive like at $400 or $500 are still not as good as it is. You don't really have to worry about warranty if you buy on Amazon though, if Xiaomi don't give you warranty, Amazon will as well as the resellers so don't worry about that. Bellow that 300 bucks, you may also get some other Xiaomi phones with good specs but most of them are using snapdragon 6xx which is not quite good.
Essential phone is truly the lowest price replacement of good quality.
I wouldn't recommend that pocophone for anyone in America because it doesn't work on Verizon or Sprint.
The pixel phones are all decent, but they have major hardware issues and look ugly.
LG makes the best looking and some of the most feature rich phones, but can't ever update software. (V30 is just an awesome phone form factor tho)
If I had to recommend a few replacements these would be it:
Galaxy s8 or newer Samsung flagships (TouchWiz is better than stock Android in 2018 amazingly)
Essential phone
LG v30*
Oneplus 6t (No other OnePlus phones though because the rest are beat by Galaxy s8/s9 and the essential phone at every price point)
*For v30 you must be a regular headphone jack user. That quad dac is amazing. Makes a $10 pair of headphones sound like $150, and regular car speakers sound like a full on audio upgrade. Being an LG there is next to no software support and no dev support, but the audio almost makes up for it.
---------- Post added at 05:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:12 AM ----------
Other option to consider however....
Downgrade to upgrade.
The 5x sucks you'll be happier with a Galaxy note 4, note 3, or a Nexus 6 as they are all faster and better phones in 2018 due to having 3gb of ram.
Plus they have great dev support and in the note devices extended batteries that can last a long time. Going from a Nexus 5x to any flagship with 3gb or more of ram in the last 5 years is really a massive upgrade. That 1gb of ram is the difference between usable and unusable.
nascar48 said:
Downgrade to upgrade.
The 5x sucks you'll be happier with a Galaxy note 4, note 3, or a Nexus 6 as they are all faster and better phones in 2018 due to having 3gb of ram.
Plus they have great dev support and in the note devices extended batteries that can last a long time. Going from a Nexus 5x to any flagship with 3gb or more of ram in the last 5 years is really a massive upgrade. That 1gb of ram is the difference between usable and unusable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for all that, Nascar. Lot's to consider, but the 'downgrade to upgrade' is a valid point. I was eyeing some refurb Galaxy s# phones, maybe I'll go for that.
I have bought a OnePlus 6 with the discount from Black Friday (and that will be valid until Christmas, I think). It is exactly the same price as the Nexus 5x 32gb originally.: $429,00. In this sense I think it is a proper successor. It is a little big, though.
And I disagree with the post above. The S8 is a great phone, but it is worse than the OnePlus 6 in most aspects but the camera.
I want to buy the op6t, I found it at 450€.
I don't know if is it better to buy now or wait a few month after op7 for a cheaper price.
In your opinion I'll find it at less than 450€ or this is an offer I couldn't pass?
(the version I found is the 8/128 midnight black)
giovanto98 said:
I want to buy the op6t, I found it at 450€.
I don't know if is it better to buy now or wait a few month after op7 for a cheaper price.
In your opinion I'll find it at less than 450€ or this is an offer I couldn't pass?
(the version I found is the 8/128 midnight black)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good price € 450 for a OnePlus 6T 128 GB / 8 GB RAM.
You can wait for the OnePlus 7 but I think that the price is too high for the OnePlus 7 and after 6 months the price of the OnePlus 7 will drop also ( never buy when the phone is in a hype).
I bought a OnePlus 6 T 256 GB /8 GB RAM for € 420 and when the hype is of the OnePlus 7 I will buy it.
And as you say after the release of the OnePlus 7 .. the price of a OnePlus 6t drops immediately.
sakerhetz said:
Good price € 450 for a OnePlus 6T 128 GB / 8 GB RAM.
You can wait for the OnePlus 7 but I think that the price is too high for the OnePlus 7 and after 6 months the price of the OnePlus 7 will drop also ( never buy when the phone is in a hype).
I bought a OnePlus 6 T 256 GB /8 GB RAM for € 420 and when the hype is of the OnePlus 7 I will buy it.
And as you say after the release of the OnePlus 7 .. the price of a OnePlus 6t drops immediately.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Very good price! Where did you find it?
Aniway I'm interested in the 6t not the 7, and my question was if I can find it under 450€ in a month (when op7 will be released)
I think that after the release of the OnePlus 7 the price of the OnePlus 6T will fall dramaticly.
So with until the release of the OnePlus 7 and after the hyped OnePlus 6.
My phone I bought on a Dutch platform for second hand phones.
I'm a big OnePlus fan myself, but I have to question the big price hike for the 8 pro this year, even compared to last years OnePlus 7 Pro.
OnePlus made their name by selling near flagship spec'd phones, but minus some features, and had a near vanilla stock Android UI, and all that for a super budget affordable price. I bought the OnePlus One for $299, and LOVED that phone, at that time flagships like the latest iPhone 6 Plus and Samsung Galaxy were selling for $749.
I get it, that super cheap price wasn't going to last forever with OnePlus, and I expected some creep up in pricing each model, but F me, not $1,000+ now. Sorry but screw that price for a OnePlus phone, or heck any phone for that matter. I think a fair price for the OnePlus 8 Pro should be like in the $699 / $749 range.
Some of their best models and pricing at launch;
OnePlus One was $299/$349 @ launch
OnePlus 3T was $439 @ launch
OnePlus 5T was $499 @ launch
OnePlus 6T was $549 @ launch
OnePlus 7 Pro was $669 @ launch
OnePlus 8 Pro is currently $900+
So it seems each year OnePlus increased the price anywhere from $50 to $100 annually. Lets do the middle which would be $75 per year, so 6 years later that's approx. $450, add that to the $300 price of the original OnePlus One, and that would put the OnePlus 8 Pro @ approx. $750, which to me is fair, not bad. But $1,000 NO WAY.
My question, the 7 Pro was $670 @ launch, now the 8 Pro is $900 @ launch, that's a huge jump up in price between the 7P and 8P, by far their biggest leap in pricing between model years. Because OnePlus have been on an annual trend of $50 to $100 price increases each year, then all of a sudden a massive $225+ increase from last year.
theres alot of things added that upped the price of the phone, 5g , chipset , display , water rating , wireless charge, refresh rate and more. if you think they can just lower the price of the phone whats the point of having a businses if theyre is no profit. at least i can say even they have this profit margin on it its not like iphones price range.
It's all in the marketing...
We always saw OnePlus as offering Flagship killers to compete with the big companies, Apple & Samsung. What better way to gain a following than offer phones that compete with the latest flagships and are priced starkly lower?
OnePlus has just been introduced to the market, relative to the big boy brands. But now they are moving into actually competing with the flagships, it's no longer Apple & Samsung, now OnePlus will be among them. The OnePLus 8 Pro is the company's very first true flagship. It offers things that every OnePlus device to date didn't; Wireless Charging, IP65 water & dust resistance rating, 120hz display, a massive camera upgrade, and of course 5G.
Simply put, OnePlus is moving into its new home, into true flagship territory.
The main thing is the inclusion of the 5G radio on all the models. Qualcomm broke out the radio portion of the chipset into a discrete unit, further adding to the price.
Waterproof
Wireless charging
5G (main reason, separate chip)
Screen
CPU / GPU
It'll stop now, this is their go to price. Won't go much higher.
It's a top of the line phone at the moment with all the latest hi-tech features that brings it over the other top brands and phones.
IP68 and some other certifications for selling officially at west. Because in india and china phone starts from 700USD. With same specs. And oneplus is expanded their business around world this year too much. Thats why they need to collect some money from west this year. And if you are located in US buying oneplus is just idiotical thing. You can get S20+ with snapdragon+mmwave support. But in EU we cannot get snapdragon S20+. Thats why it's sells in here.
I was a user of the Oneplus One and I bought it for € 300 + shipping its 64GB version. It was my everyday phone for 3 years until I sold it and bought myself a sagit. At that time I saw the tendency to raise prices, the price I think I remember increasing by about € 30 and so on, without technological justification. For implanting an nfc chip (value of € 0.0001) the prices increased by € 30 or more. For every euro or dollar that increases in production, they multiply it in an exaggerated way. I calculate that the profit margins on the phones can be 500% or more. In some cases they are creating unnecessary needs to raise prices more and more. They are looking for our limit and want to considerably separate the high, medium and low ranges. The financing of cars, telephones ... etc is being promoted. This matter is long to explain, but basically we users have to plant ourselves before it is too late, I would not like that in 5 or 10 years I will have to mortgage myself to buy a phone just as they are doing with cars. Our best weapon is not to spend more than € 400 and custom ROMs so that the durability of our phone is more than 5 years. Sales have to go down, we have to buy cheaper phones and keep our old phones as best we can. It's the best we can do to make this irreversible (although I think it already is). Long live custom ROMs and their developers, heroes.