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So, I got my Nexus today and have been playin' with it since I got home from work. Rooted it, put all my apps on, etc. Well, it didn't dawn on me until I had to make a call, but WTF? There's no call button? There's 4 sense buttons and a trackball-button right on the front and not one of them starts a call?
Don't get me wrong, completely LOVE the phone. . . just seems like it was made to be a "phone" last. lol
Well when using the dialer you hit the green phone icon to start a call and while in contacts you hit call sdssd to call no need for a button its all touch screen.
I understand that. My point was though, with the buttons that do exist, they didn't think a call one was important enough? lol
iphone only has one button...
but yes, it's a little ironic that physical buttons on a phone are no longer featuring call functionality
Yeah I dont get why they didnt put them on either side of the trackball, i miss them
I am having to get used to not having the physical buttons that I had on my G1. Like the location of the back button now. I have finally gotten used to it, but for the first hour or so, I felt a little displaced, oh well, that first hour, I was adb pulling /system and testing various things .
Mi|enko said:
I understand that. My point was though, with the buttons that do exist, they didn't think a call one was important enough? lol
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Sorry dude wasn't trying to be a smart ass, my friend got one earlier and he completely overlooked the big green icon lol. I'm glad personally that there are less buttons on there, makes the phone look sleek and cleaner. IMO
I think it's GREAT that the trackball is the only physical button on the face of the phone! And at first I thought it strange that there were no phone buttons, but then I realized it's progress, and I like the way it is, as it streamlines the front of the phone. Besides, it's more of a computer than a phone.
It is just incredibly awkward trying to unlock the phone with one hand. Every single other smartphone on the market is easy to access... this I feel like im going to drop each and every time I do it.
Anyone else having this issue?? Not sure this is the phone for me after about 15 hours of using it...
Not to mention the QHD is still pixelated.
Anyone know what the return policy is? This will negate my extended 2 year agreement if I returned it right?
psufan5 said:
It is just incredibly awkward trying to unlock the phone with one hand. Every single other smartphone on the market is easy to access... this I feel like im going to drop each and every time I do it.
Anyone else having this issue?? Not sure this is the phone for me after about 15 hours of using it...
Not to mention the QHD is still pixelated.
Anyone know what the return policy is? This will negate my extended 2 year agreement if I returned it right?
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Return policy is 14 days I believe.
I actually love the unlock location. The finger print scanner works terrifically for me.
The screen is great for a pentile and much much much better than the rgbg layout. I only notice any type of aliasing in a few places (battery on notification tray for one.)
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How's the location of the volume rockers? How'd you feel about using those to wake the device? I use widgetlocker on my Inspire and I will on the atrix when I pick it up. It allows you to wake the device with any hardware button ("easy wake" in settings). And a nice set of ways to customize your lockscreen. Or you can set it up to look exactly stock, as I've seen the motorola froyo lockscreen as an option.
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How's the location of the volume rockers? How'd you feel about using those to wake the device? I use widgetlocker on my Inspire and I will on the atrix when I pick it up. It allows you to wake the device with any hardware button ("easy wake" in settings). And a nice set of ways to customize your lockscreen. Or you can set it up to look exactly stock, as I've seen the motorola froyo lockscreen as an option.
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really?! THANKS!!!
Doesnt work.. finger print is disabled... Wish I could wake with the volume rocker though...
Yea. Absolutely hate the power button location. Thanks for the heads up on widget locker. Now using my volume buttons to wake. Much better.
I love the placement of the button. If you put the phone upside down in your pocket, then you can wake it up and then swipe your finger to unlock it while you're still taking it from your pocket 8)
Count me in the group that hates how hard it is to press the power button! Really, really don't like how difficult it is and how much pressure it takes to depress that button.
I love the fingerprint scanner functionality, though.
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I love the placement of the button. If you put the phone upside down in your pocket, then you can wake it up and then swipe your finger to unlock it while you're still taking it from your pocket 8)
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Exactly. It's perfect for me to hold one handed and unlock easily with fingerprint reader. I just got mine this morning, but haven't needed more than a single swipe so far. I find it easier than using the standard slider as I can keep a grip on the phone well while unlocking. I didn't like the thumb stretch to unlock on larger devices as I actually felt like I could drop it.
eallan said:
Return policy is 14 days I believe.
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Actually if it was bought at a COR store the return policy is 30 days with a $35 restocking fee.
I think placement is great, but the force needed is what makes it awkward. Once on, it is so easy to swipe a finger to unlock.
I'm already used to it.
As with everything, mess around with it enough and it will become second nature.
Love the finger print scanner too. That should piss the wife off.
Took a little time...
but I can already tell I'm starting to get used to its location. I absolutely LOVE the fingerprint reader as an unlock mechanism though.
Button does seem awkward. would like it on the side but I guess it would get either the lefty or righty upset (depending on which side you put it). Which it would just turn on with a swipe rather than pressing and swiping. And maybe a click so you know when you've pressed hard enough.
I tried it out in store and loved it. A lot of my VZW friends have the Droid 2, with its tiny, hard-to-press power button, and was concerned I would be forced to throw the phone out the window if I had a button like this. This is easily the softest, easiest, largest on button I've ever seen on a phone.
after setting finger print unlock , I don't even really notice it anymore
yeah I love the location and the finger print scanner one hand unlock sweet
I wish the button were raised just a 1/2mm. Everything else is great.
I'm considering looking for something to stick on it to raise it a bit. Don't know if the fingerprint reader will work through like a thick plastic sticker or somethin...
it bothered me a little at first but im getting used to it now. not really thinking about it
I like it. I have large hands, and have no problem. I feel the button was placed in the center to allow for index finger swiping of either the right of left hand... pretty good design choice if you ask me. I can see how reaching it while gripping the phone in one hand could be tough if your hands are small though.
EDIT: Not to be an annoying fanboy, but the power button on the inspire irked me a lot. it was almost flush with the body of the phone, and at a slight angle that you almost had to wrap your finger around the top of the device to feel it. The worst part is that it provided NO indication you were actually touching it. It was just a feeling that feels like, "this will NOT work 6 months from now." I know HTC makes great stuff - but I was relieved when I first touched my atrix and felt an ever so slight 'click' from the button.
Thanks for the Widget Locker recommendation, the placement is awful! I have my phone on my desk flat a lot and it will go to sleep, it requires me to pick the phone up wth two hands to unlock it. Its a pain in the arse.
I personally have no issues using the back buttons, But I hear alot of people do, how's your experience?
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I have no issues with them being on the back, I do have issues with how they are placed though. I hit volume instead of power all the time.
mbh87 said:
I have no issues with them being on the back, I do have issues with how they are placed though. I hit volume instead of power all the time.
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Which version do you have? The verizon version has slightly smaller keys that I grant you are harder to find. My solution was to get a case, it makes it a world easier to find. Currently Im using a Incipio DualPro, havent had any mispresses since.
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Which version do you have? The verizon version has slightly smaller keys that I grant you are harder to find. My solution was to get a case, it makes it a world easier to find. Currently Im using a Incipio DualPro, havent had any mispresses since.
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+1 (Verizon version) Any problems I had were solved with a case. Its really a non issue IMO. When the side bezel is cut in half again next year more manufactures may be forced to do the same. Who knows, we'll have to wait and see!
Have no issue them. Only time I use the back buttons is when I turn my phone on/off. I like that people can see the light on when your talking on the phone.
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So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
lil_jimmy_norton said:
So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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My solution for that was a volume widget on the lockscreen when its charging.
lil_jimmy_norton said:
So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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tl;dr : back buttons are easy to get used to and the benefits far outweigh any negatives.
Wall of text incoming for the bored.
There are times when you can't access the back. There is no perfect way to interact with the phone in every circumstance with any phone but the back buttons in my opinion are a great idea, and what you gain far outweighs the benefits of buttons in the traditional locations. I hope LG sticks to their guns and keeps trying to improve the power and control button locations.
People can and should easily adapt, so if LG can come up with a better system they should go for that. I don't care if dimwits can't learn to push a button in a location that they are new to. LG gambled that people wouldn't be too put off by the change and I'm sure they have lost a number of sales due to that roll of the dice but if the placement of the buttons are what keep you from buying this phone, you don't deserve a phone this good.
Not saying this phone is perfect by any stretch but this is one off the best phones available at this time and has unique features you can't get on any other phone. Knock on, for example, is a killer app, in my opinion. When you go to other devices and start tapping on them expecting them to turn on you know you've discovered something special. Your mind tells you, "this phone is defective", when two taps doesn't turn it on when actually is just a Samsung S4!
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Not saying this phone is perfect by any stretch but this is one off the best phones available at this time and has unique features you can't get on any other phone. Knock on, for example, is a killer app, in my opinion. When you go to other devices and start tapping on them expecting them to turn on you know you've discovered something special. Your mind tells you, "this phone is defective", when two taps doesn't turn it on when actually is just a Samsung S4!
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My sentiments exactly. I find myself constantly tapping devices now, I even felt the compulsion to program doubletap to turn on with my Linux Netbook(Touchscreen).
I have switched to LMT and removed the buttons.
It's nice to have the added screen real estate and the pie buttons are much more conveniently placed
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FWIW, I'm kind of digging the buttons on the back.
I'm liking them, it means you can hold the phone more firmly and on any edge without risk of pressing a button. When I first got it i was having issues feeling the difference between the camera/volume ridge and the power button but now it's pretty easy.
I love them. Lets me easily change volume on music and such while its in my pocket. Sure, you can do it with side buttons too, but still.
I also find it easier to reach these buttons than the traditional sidebuttons.
Only beef I have with them is from leaning against a fender when working on a car. It keeps turning the camera on and taking pocket pictures. Took exactly 100 pocket pictures today. I usually don't have my phone with me when I'm working in the garage but I basically can't now. Just a little annoying.
I think you can change your settings for smemo and camera to off, you could also turn the camera the opposite way in your pants so the buttons are facing the flesh of your leg. I doubt your flesh is hard enough to allow for a button to be pushed very often, if at all. A case would also help with this problem you're having.
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I have switched to LMT and removed the buttons.
It's nice to have the added screen real estate and the pie buttons are much more conveniently placed
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The buttons on the back of the phone, not the "back" soft key my friend....
Did you just troll me?
No issues. Hardly ever press them since knock knock feature was introduce.
-LG G2
I liked the idea of the back buttons, even before I purchased or knew much about the phone. it gives the phone symmetry, physically and visually. I understood the logic behind the design, and even if you can't get used to them, it's definitely NOT A DEAL-BREAKER that so many reviewers emphasize...which is sad.
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I think you can change your settings for smemo and camera to off, you could also turn the camera the opposite way in your pants so the buttons are facing the flesh of your leg. I doubt your flesh is hard enough to allow for a button to be pushed very often, if at all. A case would also help with this problem you're having.
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The buttons on the back of the phone, not the "back" soft key my friend....
Did you just troll me?
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Nah, I just shouldn't be posting at 3 am in the morning But I actually did have problems reaching the soft keys
I like that the keys are back there. But what I like even more about this phone is that I rarely have to use them. The quirky tap on/off works well enough to be useful, and the buttons on the back are perfect.
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I didn't think the back keys were bad when I bought the phone, but they have slowly become very annoying and I would rather have not had them. When in my pocket the phone goes on all the time, when I sit it seems to apply a little pressure on the phone because it's a larger phone, and that presses the power button. Also when I have it in my pocket any light pressure on the volume keys will activate them, it's annoying while at the gym listening to music. Many times when I simply pick it up I'll lightly touch the power button and it turns on, the knock on feature also is kind of easy to accidentally activate just picking the phone up and handling it. It's also impossible to use the keys while the phone is in its car cradle.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone. I have Cyanogenmod 10.2 on it and overall it's a beast, I definitely love it. But I think the rear buttons were a mistake and it would have crossed over from 99% to 100% if it had regular buttons IMO.
I love them. They feel natural and other phones no longer do.
I even use the power button instead of knock knock sometimes.
LG G2
There are certainly things l like about this phone. The wireless charging, battery life etc. Camera.
But the software in general stinks compared to HTC.
The M8 was too heavy, too tall and Camera really wasn't that good.
Sorry to vent. I know some are fixable. But I'm tired of fixing my phone. By the time I get it fixed a new update will be out.
The GPS seems mess with Google Maps lately. This may be Google Maps Fault. Not Sure.
The Bluetooth not the most stable with my 2014 Jeep. It often won't announce Google Nav through Radio.
So I shut the audio profile off and now it gets force closes on bluetooth.
Phone was messed up so I put it in airplane mode and back off. It refused to reconnect to radio.
Had to reboot.
Phone calls going direct to voice mail.
While fumbling with the phone on a call I shut Bluetooth off. I try to turn it back on and every time I put my finger near the top to swipe down the screen goes black due to proximity sensor. So I have to hang up so I can turn Bluetooth back on.
It's just one thing after another like this, that's just clumsy.
If I make a call while navigating I'd just hit back to dismiss phone app. On this I have to hit home and re-launch Nav.
If it wasn't for rooting and getting hotspot I think I'd just get an iPhone.
Is the grass really greener any where else?
I miss my HTC M7 and prefer it over the M8 or S5. No I don't want to go backwards. Need to move forward with something.
So...you found there are differences between Touchwiz and Sense
SInce there are millions happy with the M8 and millions happy with the S5 I am not sure what the purpose of making this thread is.
If you want to discuss different phones there is a sticky for that.
Thanks...hope you find what you are looking for
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I am 100% stock no fooling around yet (hotspot is my must have) surprisingly it works right from Sprint store! I have an issue with my cheekbone hitting the mute button 75%of time I answer calls. Took me a while to figure it out. I thought it was a phone issue initially till I noticed it was white which means on. Any thought on solution? Sucks having to be aware of it ever time I answer now, instead of just you know the thing going dark a moment before contact is made! Thx for reading hopefully
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I am 100% stock no fooling around yet (hotspot is my must have) surprisingly it works right from Sprint store! I have an issue with my cheekbone hitting the mute button 75%of time I answer calls. Took me a while to figure it out. I thought it was a phone issue initially till I noticed it was white which means on. Any thought on solution? Sucks having to be aware of it ever time I answer now, instead of just you know the thing going dark a moment before contact is made! Thx for reading hopefully
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I thought I was the only one with this issue haha
I had it with my oneplus 3T as well.
This might not be the issue in your case but I found I just hold the phone oddly under normal circumstances.
I diddnt realize it but I hold it a bit off center on my left ear causing the proximity sensor to miss me.
this turns the screen on and like you I end up muting it most of the time.
I figured it out by taking it off my ear while on a call and using my hand to cover the sensor. (it turned off the screen right away as it should)
then I just experimented with placement until I realized what was happening.
it diddnt happen with other phones I had but I realized they all had smaller screens so it wasn't as easy to hold them off center without noticing.
I found I can consciously move the phone center and see the screen go off out of the corner of my eye.
unfortunately that's a bit more focus than I like to put on it so I usually just end up hitting the power button while on a call which turns off the screen and it wont come back on until you manually turn it back on.
on a side note I used to have a cheap nokia windows phone that was inexpensive enough they did without the proximity sensor.
Instead they had it so when a large enough area of the screen was touched it would turn off.
single touches kept the screen on so you can still pull it away and mute or put it on speaker etc.
I kinda wish more companies would do that instead of the proximity sensor, but I think I'm in the minority as you are the only other person I've heard say they have that issue as well.
Ha, I'm not alone! Thanks for the tip, I will do some fooling around and see if maybe I'm holding at funny angle. I have been rooting since my first smartphone (HTC Evo 3d) for hotspot consequently. Seems even back then, especially on HTC phones the proximity sensor was a problem so I'm surprised I was clueless for as long as I was. That was a total bug tho. I would be talking to someone and open 4 apps and turn on airplane mode,take a screenshot, I even composed an email of gibberish and sent it to my son because the screen would not shut off Who knows, it was less than optimal. This is not a bug it seems either as you astutely pointed out I may be bringing it to my ear oddly enough to hit it before the sensor senses, ha. OR it is a hair slow. Who knows could be worse I could have a Samsung or Apple HA!