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Greetings All,
this is my first windows mobile device ever (although i'm a .Net Developer)
i noticed one strange thing in my X1, whenever i shake the mobile i hear a sound like there is something inside the device (upper side) moving freely!
does anyone else have the same thing? or should i return the device for replacement?
Also mine!
And also other three device that I check.
So I think it's normal.
Herard that as well...but it was reportet only if you hold your X1 vlosely to your ear...
What you hear might be the vibrator.
All the X1's have it, I was also worried when I received mine and made a thread. Haven't found/spoke to one person who hasn't got it yet. One person rang them up and asked if it was supposed to be like that and was told it is, but still no idea why.
As previously said it could be the vibrator.
Well, ok then! but i wonder where it's comming from.
i will check it out when i open the device. but i don't want to void my warranty so soon
I think it's the optical joystick. Hold the phone upside down and listen.
The vibrator is placed in the opposite corner.
Hi.
I confirm, on mine, the sound comes from the optical joystick.
mine has it too, but it's not the optical joystick.
maybe an accelerometer?
no accelerometer. everyone has it i think. no need to worry.
nope, not the optical joystick.
im not worried about it any more.
I guess no one should be. the good thing is that time will reveal the truth about this.
if I came to know anything about this I will immediately post it here.
looooooooool
your "scary" sounds is from volume keys and camera button Take in hand blocking them and you can't ear anything (at least, on my device )
no camera or volume keys. It is from inside.
Anyway, it sounds like an orientation sensor, not necessarily an accelerometer, but who knows?
HTC did it, so it might be there waiting to be activated from drivers )))
Maybe SE has an Xmas surprise for us )))
I find it slightly irritating, as when I have the phone in a car holder it vibrates and makes an annoying rattling sound. I daren't open the phone up to find it, so I guess I'll just have to be irritated...
memtronic said:
no camera or volume keys. It is from inside.
Anyway, it sounds like an orientation sensor, not necessarily an accelerometer, but who knows?
HTC did it, so it might be there waiting to be activated from drivers )))
Maybe SE has an Xmas surprise for us )))
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yeah, that's what I think it is.
all gadgets I have that do a similar sound, have a g-sensor inside...
let's hope the update comes soon, as we are with a really "beta" firmware currently :_>
No boy.
It's a simple noise. If you press the upper and bottom part (display and keyb) you can hear no sound.
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No boy.
It's a simple noise. If you press the upper and bottom part (display and keyb) you can hear no sound.
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i tried everything, but the sound didn't go away, until i saw your post!
yes, it's not there anymore!!!! but when you stop pressing, it comes back!
Yes, mine is exactly the same Got to be from the slider mechanism. Anyone got some pictures of it?
No need to worry....the first day i when i recived my x1 i also shaked it the whole day. But then I read in a german forum that this is the gearwheel of the slider...everyone in that forum also said that he had that ticking noise.
BUT
I have another problem with the slider.When I use the touchscreen (especially in the right upper corner) the screen drawback a bit and its like pushing a button because when i release the pressure it makes a little tick. i think this has to do with the mounting of the slider.
Greetings
Dunnam
was at the service centre .. for other issues too.. they told me the rattle function is just the loose keys.. i got owned ! lol
Hi,
Is their a way that the call answer|home|Back|Call End keys can be highlighted in the dark with say a white light?
That would be so cool when using the phone in the dark!
I guess it really depends if there's some kind of light behind the buttons?
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I guess it really depends if there's some kind of light behind the buttons?
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exactly!!..and there isn't
This is one of the couple of things that really does my nut in about the HD.
i wish it did. it would have been a SEXY touch to the HD
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This is one of the couple of things that really does my nut in about the HD.
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Yes it is so stupid that I think a ten year old child designed it. They are impossible to see in the dark and often I press the wrong one and are almost throwing the phone in the floor in anger
I suspose a skillful "Mod-er" could silkscreen some glow-in-the-dark paint on an adhesive layer (perhaps as simple as scotch tape) and adfix it to the front. Who knows might even be a market for this. I'd pay $4.95 US for it.
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I'd pay $4.95 US for it.
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"But not $5.00. $5.00 is too much"
A lot better without any additional lights, imho.
I like reading ebooks in the dark with the phone, and experices with other phones have shown that leds etc are annoying.
solution number one would be a sw controlled led system that could let you decide on/off, intensity, color, animation motive, strobosystem connected to audio output, blinking and blinking speed, for each key independently...
maybe i just exaggerated but what the hell since it's all impossible as the leds aint there i don't see why i shouldnt
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solution number one would be a sw controlled led system that could let you decide on/off, intensity, color, animation motive, strobosystem connected to audio output, blinking and blinking speed, for each key independently...
maybe i just exaggerated but what the hell since it's all impossible as the leds aint there i don't see why i shouldnt
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You could probably use available GPIO lines (if any are not used) to control the leds, but modding mobile devices without some kind of blueprints is next to impossible It's unlikely there's enough space inside the HD to house the leds and wiring required for such mod.
just hold your hand below your HD so the light of the screen reflects onto the buttons, simple enough imho
The buttons are overrated. I hardly ever use them. The only one I use is the very left buttin for Voice Command.
And I am able to find the button in complete darkness!!!!
I wish they would be gone in favor of a bigger screen.
HTC wanted to illuminate the hard buttons, but couldn't. The strategy behind the touch hd was to create the first device ever that will totally disallow its user to obtain any useful information whether a call has been missed while he was away from the phone. Moreover, part of the strategy was to *make sure* no matter how much the community will try to correct this situation, that they will stand no chance.
For this, HTC went with a tiny, faint, green led missed-call indicator at the side of the on/off button, and to make sure nobody will be able to program a solution, they had to let go the illuminated hard buttons (since otherwise the community could have programed it to behave like the Diamond, and so it would have been possible to know if you missed a call). It was a compromise for HTC, but the manager of the touch hd product recently was quoted saying that they feel satisfied with this compromise, because they feel that sacrificing hard button illumination was well worth it if the prize is to create the very first device that can be 100% inefficient at showing the missed calls you had while being away from the phone (and no less important: is 100% bulletproof against any attempt of the community to disable this cutting-edge feature).
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can be %100 inefficient at showing missed calls without the screen being active.
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99% only!! you forget the LED on the powerbutton?
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99% only!! you forget the LED on the powerbutton?
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Actually it's 99.99999999999999999999999% inefficient, but in this situation (where you'll have to miss several billion calls in order to notice one) I thought it was safe to round it up to 100%.
Surely the simple way forward here would be through the use of quantum technology.
We know that there are no lights behind the buttons, but that doesn't prevent the butons being illuminated, because in another parallel universe some HTC designer might have accidently designed a useful and practical version of the HD (of course, this is where my idea falls down, as it's impossible for any HTC designer to be so forward-thinking).
Anyway, as I'm sure we all know, you don't actually need an object to exist to have an effect in quantum physics - it only needs to exist in theory to effect the time/space continuum.
So if we could co-ordinate a mass simultaneous experiment, where we all throw our HDs up into the air, and let them all hit the ground at EXACTLY the same time, we should find that we will have easily removed the problem of non-illuminating buttons for all those partaking of this exercise.
A small side effect of this is that we will also remove the issue of poor video playback, poor call handling, crap Today screen ..........
"Anyway, as I'm sure we all know, you don't actually need an object to exist to have an effect in quantum physics - it only needs to exist in theory to effect the time/space continuum."
Boy this is scary, if your theory is right, we could all be subjects of an quantum physics experiment. What if the HD in fact doesn't exist att all!? have you concidered that? If your theory is right, it could just be a flicker in the time/space continuum. :O what the hell, as long as it's persistant I don't care.
To the more real issues. Honestly, do you guys really don't know where the answer, home, back and hangup-buttons are located?? I had not even thought of the fact that they aren't backlit. Most time I don't use them at all, but I'm pretty sure most user here in fact can point them out in pitch dark if they had to. But I must admit the lack of light underneath them is a little bit odd from a design point of view though.
For the missed call isue, isn't there a way to make the screen backlight flash with very short quite frequent flashes to indicate missed calls? For those who check the phone for missed calls every other minute this could be a good med against hart attack (or atleast blue fingertip from pressing the power-button a million times).
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A small side effect of this is that we will also remove the issue of poor video playback, poor call handling, crap Today screen ..........
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I really like those side effects, only problem is that we'll also lose warranty, so if in the distant future something bad will happen to our beloved touch hd, we will not have coverage...
To the more real issues. Honestly, do you guys really don't know where the answer, home, back and hangup-buttons are located?? I had not even thought of the fact that they aren't backlit. Most time I don't use them at all, but I'm pretty sure most user here in fact can point them out in pitch dark if they had to.
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Impossible !!!, you make it sound as easy as typing on a computer keyboard without looking at the keys... why do you lie to us my dear friend when we all know remembering the location of the 4 keys in the touch hd is orders of magnitude harder ?
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Impossible !!!, you make it sound as easy as typing on a computer keyboard without looking at the keys... why do you lie to us my dear friend when we all know remembering the location of the 4 keys in the touch hd is orders of magnitude harder ?
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Well... you have a point... but in the other hand your statement is pretty contradictory in itself. My computer (a macbook, I'll probably get my ass kicked for saying that) has no backlit keyboard and has something like 80 keys so it sounds pretty weard that it would be easer to learn the location of all of them. or have you written a program that alters the location of the 4 HD-keys so you honestly can say that it's impossible to learn?
I just read yet another review of the Epic where one of the reasons they talked sh!t about the EPIC was because of the bottom buttons don't stay lit the entire time the screen is on. This is a SUPER easy fix.... should anyone want to change this, it will take 10 seconds tops:
Goto settings > sound&display > keyboard timeout and change it to "Same as Screen timeout"
BAM! Problem solved. I almost wish Samsung had done this from the factory as the default. Oh well.
'tuna
thanks! wondering how to fix this !
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thanks! wondering how to fix this !
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Great! Glad someone could use the info...
Thanks so much, i would have never guessed that as setting for the hardware keyboard would effect the capacitive buttons!
Thanks
Thanks, added to my blog and tips for Epic page I'm just starting on..
http://www.bitshop.com/Tips/SamsungEpic4gbySprint/tabid/132/Default.aspx
Beautifully simple,
Steve
It's seriously stupid that they didn't put a non-lighting image on the front of these. They could have had the stenciled outline of the buttons there so they were visible even when not lit up.
Woot. Nice find spiicy. That just made the Epic a little more Epic
Oooo much appreciated
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Yeah thanks for sure! I also had no idea that these capactive touch buttons would be tied to the keyboard. I had my keyboard timeout set to like 3 seconds, because once I start typing I dont need to see anymore usually. That explains why those buttons wouldnt stay lit for long enough!
Cheers!
glad i found this thread! thanks again.
OMG I can't believe people didn't know this by now...
Forgive My Brevity. To Be Or Not To Be...
yeah i did this the first day i got my epic since i heard so many complaints about it before hand, lls, its funny how people can cry about it and not even look through the settings
Ok, just pointing out this isn't strictly true. Doing as the OP suggests keeps the buttons lit as long as a touch action keeps the screen alive, the button lights will still time-out before the screen for any other actions that keep the screen on. Like e-book readers, video player, games, extended typing in any app, timers, alarm clocks, etc (in cases where touching the screen isn't required).
What's odd is that the buttons aren't tied to either the screen or the keyboard. Since I'm used to where they are now I'd rather just have an option to keep those lights always off.
Battery Usage
Does anyone know how much battery usage the keyboard light consumes?
Someone should make a screen protector with the icons screened onto it.
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Someone should make a screen protector with the icons screened onto it.
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+1 internets for you. Quick, patent it too.
I totally agree on that screen protector idea, even though the second before you even posted some asian probably stole it and already has a patent for it somehow.
All in all though, IDK How much of a battery impact the hardware keyboard would use being on all the time, but to be honest, now that I've had the phone for a week+, I don't really need to know where they are, I already have it memorized. So I just said the hell with it and put my keyboard backlight back to 3 seconds again.
It is just incredibly awkward trying to unlock the phone with one hand. Every single other smartphone on the market is easy to access... this I feel like im going to drop each and every time I do it.
Anyone else having this issue?? Not sure this is the phone for me after about 15 hours of using it...
Not to mention the QHD is still pixelated.
Anyone know what the return policy is? This will negate my extended 2 year agreement if I returned it right?
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It is just incredibly awkward trying to unlock the phone with one hand. Every single other smartphone on the market is easy to access... this I feel like im going to drop each and every time I do it.
Anyone else having this issue?? Not sure this is the phone for me after about 15 hours of using it...
Not to mention the QHD is still pixelated.
Anyone know what the return policy is? This will negate my extended 2 year agreement if I returned it right?
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Return policy is 14 days I believe.
I actually love the unlock location. The finger print scanner works terrifically for me.
The screen is great for a pentile and much much much better than the rgbg layout. I only notice any type of aliasing in a few places (battery on notification tray for one.)
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How's the location of the volume rockers? How'd you feel about using those to wake the device? I use widgetlocker on my Inspire and I will on the atrix when I pick it up. It allows you to wake the device with any hardware button ("easy wake" in settings). And a nice set of ways to customize your lockscreen. Or you can set it up to look exactly stock, as I've seen the motorola froyo lockscreen as an option.
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How's the location of the volume rockers? How'd you feel about using those to wake the device? I use widgetlocker on my Inspire and I will on the atrix when I pick it up. It allows you to wake the device with any hardware button ("easy wake" in settings). And a nice set of ways to customize your lockscreen. Or you can set it up to look exactly stock, as I've seen the motorola froyo lockscreen as an option.
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really?! THANKS!!!
Doesnt work.. finger print is disabled... Wish I could wake with the volume rocker though...
Yea. Absolutely hate the power button location. Thanks for the heads up on widget locker. Now using my volume buttons to wake. Much better.
I love the placement of the button. If you put the phone upside down in your pocket, then you can wake it up and then swipe your finger to unlock it while you're still taking it from your pocket 8)
Count me in the group that hates how hard it is to press the power button! Really, really don't like how difficult it is and how much pressure it takes to depress that button.
I love the fingerprint scanner functionality, though.
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I love the placement of the button. If you put the phone upside down in your pocket, then you can wake it up and then swipe your finger to unlock it while you're still taking it from your pocket 8)
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Exactly. It's perfect for me to hold one handed and unlock easily with fingerprint reader. I just got mine this morning, but haven't needed more than a single swipe so far. I find it easier than using the standard slider as I can keep a grip on the phone well while unlocking. I didn't like the thumb stretch to unlock on larger devices as I actually felt like I could drop it.
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Actually if it was bought at a COR store the return policy is 30 days with a $35 restocking fee.
I think placement is great, but the force needed is what makes it awkward. Once on, it is so easy to swipe a finger to unlock.
I'm already used to it.
As with everything, mess around with it enough and it will become second nature.
Love the finger print scanner too. That should piss the wife off.
Took a little time...
but I can already tell I'm starting to get used to its location. I absolutely LOVE the fingerprint reader as an unlock mechanism though.
Button does seem awkward. would like it on the side but I guess it would get either the lefty or righty upset (depending on which side you put it). Which it would just turn on with a swipe rather than pressing and swiping. And maybe a click so you know when you've pressed hard enough.
I tried it out in store and loved it. A lot of my VZW friends have the Droid 2, with its tiny, hard-to-press power button, and was concerned I would be forced to throw the phone out the window if I had a button like this. This is easily the softest, easiest, largest on button I've ever seen on a phone.
after setting finger print unlock , I don't even really notice it anymore
yeah I love the location and the finger print scanner one hand unlock sweet
I wish the button were raised just a 1/2mm. Everything else is great.
I'm considering looking for something to stick on it to raise it a bit. Don't know if the fingerprint reader will work through like a thick plastic sticker or somethin...
it bothered me a little at first but im getting used to it now. not really thinking about it
I like it. I have large hands, and have no problem. I feel the button was placed in the center to allow for index finger swiping of either the right of left hand... pretty good design choice if you ask me. I can see how reaching it while gripping the phone in one hand could be tough if your hands are small though.
EDIT: Not to be an annoying fanboy, but the power button on the inspire irked me a lot. it was almost flush with the body of the phone, and at a slight angle that you almost had to wrap your finger around the top of the device to feel it. The worst part is that it provided NO indication you were actually touching it. It was just a feeling that feels like, "this will NOT work 6 months from now." I know HTC makes great stuff - but I was relieved when I first touched my atrix and felt an ever so slight 'click' from the button.
Thanks for the Widget Locker recommendation, the placement is awful! I have my phone on my desk flat a lot and it will go to sleep, it requires me to pick the phone up wth two hands to unlock it. Its a pain in the arse.
I personally have no issues using the back buttons, But I hear alot of people do, how's your experience?
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I have no issues with them being on the back, I do have issues with how they are placed though. I hit volume instead of power all the time.
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I have no issues with them being on the back, I do have issues with how they are placed though. I hit volume instead of power all the time.
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Which version do you have? The verizon version has slightly smaller keys that I grant you are harder to find. My solution was to get a case, it makes it a world easier to find. Currently Im using a Incipio DualPro, havent had any mispresses since.
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Which version do you have? The verizon version has slightly smaller keys that I grant you are harder to find. My solution was to get a case, it makes it a world easier to find. Currently Im using a Incipio DualPro, havent had any mispresses since.
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+1 (Verizon version) Any problems I had were solved with a case. Its really a non issue IMO. When the side bezel is cut in half again next year more manufactures may be forced to do the same. Who knows, we'll have to wait and see!
Have no issue them. Only time I use the back buttons is when I turn my phone on/off. I like that people can see the light on when your talking on the phone.
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So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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My solution for that was a volume widget on the lockscreen when its charging.
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So far I'm really digging the back buttons on my Sprint version. My finger naturally finds the power button as I am taking it out of my pocket.
Only complaint I have is it's hard to adjust the volume when it's in a car dock.
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tl;dr : back buttons are easy to get used to and the benefits far outweigh any negatives.
Wall of text incoming for the bored.
There are times when you can't access the back. There is no perfect way to interact with the phone in every circumstance with any phone but the back buttons in my opinion are a great idea, and what you gain far outweighs the benefits of buttons in the traditional locations. I hope LG sticks to their guns and keeps trying to improve the power and control button locations.
People can and should easily adapt, so if LG can come up with a better system they should go for that. I don't care if dimwits can't learn to push a button in a location that they are new to. LG gambled that people wouldn't be too put off by the change and I'm sure they have lost a number of sales due to that roll of the dice but if the placement of the buttons are what keep you from buying this phone, you don't deserve a phone this good.
Not saying this phone is perfect by any stretch but this is one off the best phones available at this time and has unique features you can't get on any other phone. Knock on, for example, is a killer app, in my opinion. When you go to other devices and start tapping on them expecting them to turn on you know you've discovered something special. Your mind tells you, "this phone is defective", when two taps doesn't turn it on when actually is just a Samsung S4!
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Not saying this phone is perfect by any stretch but this is one off the best phones available at this time and has unique features you can't get on any other phone. Knock on, for example, is a killer app, in my opinion. When you go to other devices and start tapping on them expecting them to turn on you know you've discovered something special. Your mind tells you, "this phone is defective", when two taps doesn't turn it on when actually is just a Samsung S4!
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My sentiments exactly. I find myself constantly tapping devices now, I even felt the compulsion to program doubletap to turn on with my Linux Netbook(Touchscreen).
I have switched to LMT and removed the buttons.
It's nice to have the added screen real estate and the pie buttons are much more conveniently placed
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FWIW, I'm kind of digging the buttons on the back.
I'm liking them, it means you can hold the phone more firmly and on any edge without risk of pressing a button. When I first got it i was having issues feeling the difference between the camera/volume ridge and the power button but now it's pretty easy.
I love them. Lets me easily change volume on music and such while its in my pocket. Sure, you can do it with side buttons too, but still.
I also find it easier to reach these buttons than the traditional sidebuttons.
Only beef I have with them is from leaning against a fender when working on a car. It keeps turning the camera on and taking pocket pictures. Took exactly 100 pocket pictures today. I usually don't have my phone with me when I'm working in the garage but I basically can't now. Just a little annoying.
I think you can change your settings for smemo and camera to off, you could also turn the camera the opposite way in your pants so the buttons are facing the flesh of your leg. I doubt your flesh is hard enough to allow for a button to be pushed very often, if at all. A case would also help with this problem you're having.
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I have switched to LMT and removed the buttons.
It's nice to have the added screen real estate and the pie buttons are much more conveniently placed
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The buttons on the back of the phone, not the "back" soft key my friend....
Did you just troll me?
No issues. Hardly ever press them since knock knock feature was introduce.
-LG G2
I liked the idea of the back buttons, even before I purchased or knew much about the phone. it gives the phone symmetry, physically and visually. I understood the logic behind the design, and even if you can't get used to them, it's definitely NOT A DEAL-BREAKER that so many reviewers emphasize...which is sad.
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I think you can change your settings for smemo and camera to off, you could also turn the camera the opposite way in your pants so the buttons are facing the flesh of your leg. I doubt your flesh is hard enough to allow for a button to be pushed very often, if at all. A case would also help with this problem you're having.
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The buttons on the back of the phone, not the "back" soft key my friend....
Did you just troll me?
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Nah, I just shouldn't be posting at 3 am in the morning But I actually did have problems reaching the soft keys
I like that the keys are back there. But what I like even more about this phone is that I rarely have to use them. The quirky tap on/off works well enough to be useful, and the buttons on the back are perfect.
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I didn't think the back keys were bad when I bought the phone, but they have slowly become very annoying and I would rather have not had them. When in my pocket the phone goes on all the time, when I sit it seems to apply a little pressure on the phone because it's a larger phone, and that presses the power button. Also when I have it in my pocket any light pressure on the volume keys will activate them, it's annoying while at the gym listening to music. Many times when I simply pick it up I'll lightly touch the power button and it turns on, the knock on feature also is kind of easy to accidentally activate just picking the phone up and handling it. It's also impossible to use the keys while the phone is in its car cradle.
Don't get me wrong, I love this phone. I have Cyanogenmod 10.2 on it and overall it's a beast, I definitely love it. But I think the rear buttons were a mistake and it would have crossed over from 99% to 100% if it had regular buttons IMO.
I love them. They feel natural and other phones no longer do.
I even use the power button instead of knock knock sometimes.
LG G2