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Hey all,
I really don't know what to do about my cell phone situation. Up until last week, I had an unlocked iPhone. When I heard 3G was coming to my area, I gave it to my little sister for her college graduation with the intention of getting the Mytouch when it came out. When I realized it would be the end of July for the Mytouch, I decided to go and get a G1 to try out for 14 days android and see if I really liked the OS.
Here's the problem. I love this G1. It's almost perfect. I had no idea how much I missed a hardware keyboard. I'm running a custom ROM and even have some of the HTC stuff going. It's ridiculous how far ahead Android actually is of everything else, and I was on an iPhone just last week. However after all the praise I can give it I have three significant concerns. The two are the usual, battery life and lack of 3.5" headphone jack. The third problem is how close T-Mo must be revising this phone, or at least will be to releasing another android phone with a hardware keyboard. Could that happen this summer? I think the only way I'd get a phone without the keyboard is to go with the i7500 or that HTC Hero. I text a lot, so I think I want the keyboard.
So, what would you do? I don't want to wait very long because you can easily get stuck always waiting for the right thing. But I also don't want to get a phone and next week hear that a new one is coming out very soon. So what do you pros think? Am I in a wait and buy area where rumors are swirling about the next phone, or should I just keep this G1? Would you?
Thanks for hearing my ridiculously long and thought out post, and maybe I'm thinking on this too much, but I use my cell all the time, it's actually a big deal for me.
Here's what I'd do, don't get stuck with a phone you don't love for 2 years. Yeah you could always buy one outright and pay $500 to get the newest and greatest but don't settle (at least too much). Samsung and Motorola have one coming out soon with a physical keyboard. When I say soon, by end of year probably.
I guess I could hold onto this one for the rest of the week and take it back. Maybe by then I will have heard something else about a new release. That Samsung one was supposed to be "very soon" but none of the leaked roadmaps look promising.
HTC needs to revise this G1, its got so much missed potential.
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HTC needs to revise this G1, its got so much missed potential.
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The G1 was the absolute 1st of not just a new generation.. But a PDA revolution.. With all its shortcomings it is still currently the BEST pda available in the US..
bastage said:
The G1 was the absolute 1st of not just a new generation.. But a PDA revolution.. With all its shortcomings it is still currently the BEST pda available in the US..
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No argument here. Its a great device. The fact that my cellphone went off to tell me that someone replied to my thread and let me type out a reply very quickly on it speaks volumes to how it helps us organize and maintain digital lives.
Thing is, its painfully close to perfect. 3g expandable memory and an Android os integrated to google is awesome. It just falls short in style and entertainment (3.5 jack). It is the best option right now, but will it be the best option in a month or so? That's the 64,000 dollar question.
The 3.5 mm headjack isn't that big of a problem... just buy an adapter. 10$ at the T-Mobile store for an OEM one with built in mic, or on eBay they are sometimes less than a dollar.
3.5 headphone jack is ancient technology. This device supports bluetooth A2DP/AVRCP. Get with the times!
Hah. I didn't want to start a debate about 3.5 millimeter jacks. Doesn't matter what the opinions are anymore because as evidenced by the Hero, all HTC devices will have the jack in them. And its for the best I think. There are situations where you want to charge your phone and listen to music.
Its not about the jack though, its about the next qwerty android phone now, and I'm starting to think that will be a while.
How did the OP not get that miniusb to 3.5" cable? I received one with my G1 back in November-did T-Mo stop sending these?
Got it
I have it, it's just not very practical. I had the same problem with adapters on my old blackberry pearl. Back then we had a 2.5" to 3.5" adapter. Very annoying actually and it turned me off to adapters as a whole. But even then you could hook it up to a power outlet and keep listening, and with the battery life issues on the G1, that is a very real need.
I hate to keep harping on that point, because I really love the G1 and it's not a deal breaker at all. Especially since it's clear HTC has conceded the point for their future phones. I really do like this phone and android a lot, I can't explain it other than if feels very solid, much more so than my old iPhone. I'm just looking at the outlook here and wondering if the better options are incoming.
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3.5 headphone jack is ancient technology. This device supports bluetooth A2DP/AVRCP. Get with the times!
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Plus 1 on this one. Its all about Stereo BT.
But for me the G1 is perfect as far as the learning curve for the Android OS better than the lack luster of the iphone. I say its not for us to decide because in 14 days your going to return it what phone will you get before the myTouch comes out?
Hi everyone,
Thought I would post about an Android issue that is bugging me - the fact that despite USB Host functionality being present in ICS, USB DACs (digital audio converters, external sound cards if you will) do not work with our devices .
If they did work then we could use relatively cheap USB DACs with our Android phones and enjoy great music sound quality, no matter which cheap DAC/DSP the manufacturer has seen fit to include. Ever since I sold my Galaxy S, which has an excellent Wolfson DAC and can produce awesome sound quality with Voodoo Sound, the sound quality of my subsequent devices has rankled. Now with ICS this is a simple software fix, which makes it all the more irritating (someone has managed to add support for these in a Nook Colour kernel that works with CM9). To be honest I'm seriously considering buying an iPhone for the first time ever because they have this functionality out of the box.
Fortunately there is something we can do about this besides making ineffectual unhappy noises and waiting for customs ROMs etc to fix this - vote the issue up here: http://code.google.com/p/android/is...rs&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
To vote just star the issue.
This issue needs 1200 votes to enter the top ten, which doesn't seem a big ask given the hundreds of millions of Android users out there...
Please star this and share this out to your social networks - help save me from having to continue think about getting an iPhone!
Quick heads up to everyone here know that since I posted this the issue has had 56 votes and lifted 12 places in the issues ladder. Thanks to everyone who has voted - lets keep going!
Good you brought this issue up here, i heard a while back about this and it would be great if i could use my fiio e7 instead of crappy stock audio...
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Good you brought this issue up here, i heard a while back about this and it would be great if i could use my fiio e7 instead of crappy stock audio...
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Absolutely, I have an Fiio E17 coming to me soon, would love to use it with my LCD-2's and Sennheiser HD25-1's.
If we can get enough engagement we can actually get this issue sorted, so I hope folks get behind this.
I guess google can't do much here, as the kernels were compiled from the hardware providers, which in our case is samsung!
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I guess google can't do much here, as the kernels were compiled from the hardware providers, which in our case is samsung!
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They work closely with Google for ICS software though, so no reason this can't happen.
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Absolutely, I have an Fiio E17 coming to me soon, would love to use it with my LCD-2's and Sennheiser HD25-1's.
If we can get enough engagement we can actually get this issue sorted, so I hope folks get behind this.
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Time to bring this up a bit Nice to hear. Im also looking forward to get the new fiio e 17 for my Denon 1001, hope to see some use of the new gear in the future on Note
Well, if ICS fixes this, they'll toss this issue onto the pile and forget about it. No, it won't motivate them to rush ICS any more than the usual 8 month cycles they displayed with 2.2 to 2.3.
So, I put in my 2c with the poll because it indeed has merit, but to what avail? Cell companies (and the manufacturers) do what they want, when they want, how they want, why they want, and give the issue to whomever they want with whatever schedule they want. Then pay themselves a $500k bonus, and throw an hellacious party over the matter to boot.
Guys, as ugly as it may seem, let's get real. Android bug fixes, LTE fee structures, and the proverbial 24 month contracts are here to stay.
Other than our whining, they will never be officially challenged on the matter, it will never get into the legal system, and you'll never have any say about it either (other than some pretty colorful fits I've seen out here - including mine). Anytime these issues heat up and someone forces their hands to provide an equitable service for their fees, cell companies do what they've done for over 25 years - run to Washington with a briefcase full of cash and that's that.
Tough, I know, but it's still just tough. That's all we've got, and we've got to live with it for now. Frankly, I would have hoped competition would have worked it's wonders over such matters, but anytime Washington is involved all bets are off
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Well, if ICS fixes this, they'll toss this issue onto the pile and forget about it. No, it won't motivate them to rush ICS any more than the usual 8 month cycles they displayed with 2.2 to 2.3.
So, I put in my 2c with the poll because it indeed has merit, but to what avail? Cell companies (and the manufacturers) do what they want, when they want, how they want, why they want, and give the issue to whomever they want with whatever schedule they want. Then pay themselves a $500k bonus, and throw an hellacious party over the matter to boot.
Guys, as ugly as it may seem, let's get real. Android bug fixes, LTE fee structures, and the proverbial 24 month contracts are here to stay.
Other than our whining, they will never be officially challenged on the matter, it will never get into the legal system, and you'll never have any say about it either (other than some pretty colorful fits I've seen out here - including mine). Anytime these issues heat up and someone forces their hands to provide an equitable service for their fees, cell companies do what they've done for over 25 years - run to Washington with a briefcase full of cash and that's that.
Tough, I know, but it's still just tough. That's all we've got, and we've got to live with it for now. Frankly, I would have hoped competition would have worked it's wonders over such matters, but anytime Washington is involved all bets are off
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Well at least you put your 2c in. I think we should keep voting.
NZTechfreak, I'm all with you and have cast mine.
buckwheat.phd said:
Guys, as ugly as it may seem, let's get real. Android bug fixes, LTE fee structures, and the proverbial 24 month contracts are here to stay.
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Also, I'm rocking unlimited everything for $45 a month prepaid on the Gnote right now in the US... so I'm not quite sure what you mean by that statement.
This post was also a ::bump:: as I feel this issue requires more attention
Quick update: since posting this the issue has had 300+ new stars and risen something like 60 places up the ladder. Thanks all for getting behind this one, hopefully it will get assigned for review soon - until then all new votes help!
I've added my vote.
I've asked this question before but had no responses, but does anybody know:
Is it possible to use an MHL to HDMI adaptor, and then attach a device that splits out the digital audio - such as http://www.climaxdigital.co.uk/1080P-13b-HDMI-Audio-Splitter - and then feed a DAC with the output from that?
Cheers, Gord
I gave it a star, but we don't need google to make kernel changes...
gordonshowers said:
I've added my vote.
I've asked this question before but had no responses, but does anybody know:
Is it possible to use an MHL to HDMI adaptor, and then attach a device that splits out the digital audio - such as http://www.climaxdigital.co.uk/1080P-13b-HDMI-Audio-Splitter - and then feed a DAC with the output from that?
Cheers, Gord
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A few people have asked about the MHL thing, I have no idea. Doesn't really work as a solution to my way of thinking - MHL cable + power source + splitter + USB DAC isn't exactly portable (and if I'm at home I'll just use the USB DAC with my computer). Would be interested to know if it works though in any case.
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Bump again! We need this.
Bump. It will be very nice to get FIIO E17 Alpen + SGS2 working togheter. Hi-end pocket gear as good as Ibasso DX100 = Voted.
I hope the coming official ICS firmware will include the USB DAC driver.
Lets bring this issue to a Google Engineer directly! More info located on my thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25253002
Free Bump and a vote from me for your Issue, since everything which could make android better deserve a vote
Anybody think Verizon will be kind enough to include a pair of Sammy headphones with our Note 3's? Unlike the empty spot in our Note 2 boxes, I would appreciate a new pair with the in line mic, like the other carriers get.
I know a lot of people have aftermarket ear buds etc. But personally I've been using the pair I got 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus. Honestly they've performed as well as any aftermarket headphones I've owned for listening to music. And they're especially convenient while driving (no blue tooth in my truck).
Anyway I was more than disappointed they weren't included with the Note 2. Looks like Sprint got them but ATT didn't. Anybody expecting them to be included? Or know yes or no if we'll get them?
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Anybody think Verizon will be kind enough to include a pair of Sammy headphones with our Note 3's? Unlike the empty spot in our Note 2 boxes, I would appreciate a new pair with the in line mic, like the other carriers get.
I know a lot of people have aftermarket ear buds etc. But personally I've been using the pair I got 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus. Honestly they've performed as well as any aftermarket headphones I've owned for listening to music. And they're especially convenient while driving (no blue tooth in my truck).
Anyway I was more than disappointed they weren't included with the Note 2. Looks like Sprint got them but ATT didn't. Anybody expecting them to be included? Or know yes or no if we'll get them?
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according to "whats in the box" on the site no they will not have headphones..which is stupid..the s4 did
gerg004 said:
Anybody think Verizon will be kind enough to include a pair of Sammy headphones with our Note 3's? Unlike the empty spot in our Note 2 boxes, I would appreciate a new pair with the in line mic, like the other carriers get.
I know a lot of people have aftermarket ear buds etc. But personally I've been using the pair I got 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus. Honestly they've performed as well as any aftermarket headphones I've owned for listening to music. And they're especially convenient while driving (no blue tooth in my truck).
Anyway I was more than disappointed they weren't included with the Note 2. Looks like Sprint got them but ATT didn't. Anybody expecting them to be included? Or know yes or no if we'll get them?
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According to the Q&A section on the Verizon page for the Note 3, it will:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...-note-3-white?checkedId=oneOrTwoYearPrice7193
Click Q&A, search for "headphones" and you'll see a question about it. A Samsung rep replied saying:
Hi Joey. Thanks so much for reaching out. Yes, headphones will be included upon purchase of the Note 3.
Please let us know if you have any additional questions. We're here and happy to help.
Thank you,
Samsung Support
Here's hoping you're right. Kinda feel like we get ripped off when other carriers and other phones have them. Then VzW finds another way to shaft us, so they have a better chance at making a sale on beats...my opinion anyway.
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If Verizon does remove them what do they do with all the headphones?! I watched the unboxing for a gnote 3 and it had headphones, but that was t mobile.
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According to the Q&A section on the Verizon page for the Note 3, it will:
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/...-note-3-white?checkedId=oneOrTwoYearPrice7193
Click Q&A, search for "headphones" and you'll see a question about it. A Samsung rep replied saying:
Hi Joey. Thanks so much for reaching out. Yes, headphones will be included upon purchase of the Note 3.
Please let us know if you have any additional questions. We're here and happy to help.
Thank you,
Samsung Support
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I hope this Samsung rep knows what he/she's talking about,but under the Tab "In the Box" on this Verizon web page there are no headphones listed. I'll bet Verizon's not including them.
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I hope this Samsung rep knows what he/she's talking about,but under the Tab "In the Box" on this Verizon web page there are no headphones listed. I'll bet Verizon's not including them.
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i'll bet verizon leaves them out too
keynith said:
If Verizon does remove them what do they do with all the headphones?! I watched the unboxing for a gnote 3 and it had headphones, but that was t mobile.
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Why give them to all the employees ofcourse...
I kid, I kid
But really the S4 came with them I do not see why there would not by any with the Note 3 when all the other carriers have them.
mrlaigle said:
Why give them to all the employees ofcourse...
I kid, I kid
But really the S4 came with them I do not see why there would not by any with the Note 3 when all the other carriers have them.
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I hear ya. But the Note 2 didn't have them and the other carriers did. Really bogus if you ask me. Especially considering they come from Samsung and note VzW.
What I use. >.>
Yeah I'm just wondering what they do with 100k + headphones
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Banggugyangu said:
What I use. >.>
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Lol, that's ridiculous.
Ive uses http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005FUNYV2 for 2 years without any problems.
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I'm a professional musician and audio engineer. I didn't buy them to use as normal headphones. I bought them to use for performing. Side benefit of them is that they destroy any consumer grade headphones on the market.
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I'm a professional musician and audio engineer. I didn't buy them to use as normal headphones. I bought them to use for performing. Side benefit of them is that they destroy any consumer grade headphones on the market.
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I'm not an audio engineer or anything.
My friends brother owns Aurisonics and he got me a pair of the ASG-1s which sound awesome i usually rotate between those and Bose QC15s when i travel.
The headphones that come with phones and ipods sucks and sounds crappy once you hear a good set.
Any pair of customs with 2+ drivers will blow your mind. They offer full isolation because of the custom fit. I regularly use mine as earplugs when I go shooting, to loud events, or when I simply don't want to listen to someone. (the cord is detachable). Another musician friend has a pair of 1964ears triple driver model. They're a lot more affordable and he says they sound fantastic. Nothing on the market offers the clarity and dynamic range of my 18s due to the 6 drivers per ear, but the price is drastically higher. If you have a few hundred dollars to blow sometime and music is important to you, iI recommend trying out a triple driver custom. You won't be disappointed.
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If you have a set of custom IEMs with a removable cable, UE makes a cable with an online microphone and volume control for iPhone. To use on anything non android, simply swap the left and right cables.
*edit* anyone with multi-driver headphones, check the impedance of the drivers together before using them with a headphone device at full gain. Most of them are wired to drop the impedance giving more wattage out of the amp. For anything with 2 or less drivers per channel, that won't be an issue, but anything 3+ drivers, it can easily burn the amp chip out on a phone. With mine, half volume is usually so loud that it causes tinnitus, so it's not an issue for me. (with great in-ear monitors comes great responsibility.) take care of your hearing, because once it's gone, you will not ever get it back.
Banggugyangu said:
I'm a professional musician and audio engineer. I didn't buy them to use as normal headphones. I bought them to use for performing. Side benefit of them is that they destroy any consumer grade headphones on the market.
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amen to that. I have a pair of Sure ear buds and everyone thinks I was crazy for spending $300 on headphones...when you put them in and they tune out everything else, even with no music on, they are worth every dollar. I wear mine to shoot as well. Plus sound quality is way better. Glad to see someone else be jammin too. :good:
Oh recently i have been doing a lot of travel for work..I have a huge pet peeve listing to people talk about their daily bs on an airplane, being able to not hear any people is a HUGE benefit.
Shure E2/E3s aren't custom, however. There's still a monstrous difference between pro-grade universals and customs, but the shure E2s/E3s are a good example of pro-grade multi-driver IEMs.
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Shure E2/E3s aren't custom, however. There's still a monstrous difference between pro-grade universals and customs, but the shure E2s/E3s are a good example of pro-grade multi-driver IEMs.
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This is true they are not custom fit but they do a great job of noise cancellation at a fraction of the ones you posted. I just don't like big bulky headphones. Shures are not top of the line but they sure do beat the $1 headphones I see all the ifone idiots walking around wearing thinking they sound great because apple makes em. I have the bose noise canceling one but find myself only wearing around the house size they are PITA to take with you
Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?
Some interesting points made, but also nothing specific mentioned about the X and an irrelevant comparison against the car industry, or if you must compare, then pick something like built in Sat Navs which are ludicrously expensive and rarely updated ( or at least for a reasonable cost). Current car is the first car in 10 years i have owned where the updates are free and available when I want. But even so, I can download a free app that does much of what my expensive sat nav does and sometimes more.
The whole technological world has conditioned us to be satisfied with poor products for years and arguably Apple did a lot to improve things for all of us. I have not owned a single device of any nature where I have not cursed the makers for some omission that seems important to me, or failure to update the software or some inherent bug. Couple that with the throw away culture of those of who who have the luxury to do so and you have the current state.
So what are you referring to with regard to the x that is not working and waiting for a bug fix?
As you say these devices have a very short shelf life and an equally short design, prototype, build, test period. With an open platform and variety of hardware options, issues are inevitable and Windows did a good job of conditioning us to that.
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Hi folks, let me get one thing out of the way: I have a 1+x and I love it.
But reading what people post on xda and on the oneplus forum makes me wonder: since when have we become so happy with unfinished products?
I constantly hear "yes, but they'll fix it soon" or "yes, but think about the price". I understand that we paid little for the phone compared to other brands, but we paid little because of the specs, not because of an unfinished software which needs to be updated over and over again.
And don't give me a "well, then you shouldn't have bought it" because it's not like when you ordered it, they inform you about the software bugs.
With the phone that will be used for 1 or max. 2 years, waiting some months to get the basic bugs fixed is an eternity. Also, that the company is young doesn't really matter, I rather have them do better testing, wait one month longer and pay a little bit more for a fully working product than having to wait for something that is supposed to work from the beginning.
As I said before, I don't regret buying the 1+x, I'm just trying to understand why we as the consumer lowered our expectations and accept to pay the full price for an unfinished product (me included) when instead we should get very angry at the producer and I really don't like the companies going like "the product doesn't really work as it's supposed to, but we can start selling it anyway and fix it afterwards". And why does this only apply to smartphones?
Imagine buying a car where you can't switch on the windscreen wiper, "don't worry, they'll fix it with the next onboard-computer update", or a microwave oven that doesn't have a timer function "but don't worry, that will be fixed soon", who would go for that?
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Your're right, but I think the main problem is Android.
Everyone who is going to buy an Android is going to be a beta tester. None of the phones I've had was stable. Every phone had problems.
Oneplus must fix the main problems, but if the base isn't bugless, we can't expect that Oneplus or other producers can make a software totally free of bugs. (Ex. LP is one of the worst versions of Android, even if one the most looking version).
You guys are right! But i m still happy
I bought the opx seeing its spces, i knew oxygen os wil be a problem but still i got it becoz i knew that theres gona be a ton of roms for this phone!
But i believe its bad of oneplus ,to not provide a well finished(stable) software!
Totally agree with many of you guys. Dropped some "likes" here and there.
Really, waiting for some serious custom juice to flow soon. [emoji16]
So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.
Well I can give you more relative comparison. I have both the base models of the Alcatel idol 3 5.5 and the zenfone 2 2gb variant and both perform pretty much rock solid. The idol 3 does have some lagging here and there but that is known with the 615 chipset. However all major functionality works on both phones. Asus as been pushing out refinement updates about every 3 weeks and marshmallow is due out very soon. Both phones are under 250 and with the holidays around you can probably get them in the sub 200 USD range. We could make the argument that these companies are much bigger and have been around the game longer. But we also must remember that this is OPs 3rd phone now. And that OP is run by a bunch of ex OPPO executives. To top that off OP had major dealings with CM in the initial OPO and borched software and updates. They simply have not learned and continue to throw out half baked cheap products. Forcing their customers into a "wait and pray it gets better mindset".
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So what are the problems? What doesn't work? Mine will be delivered today. Guess I am asking this a little late.
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Everything works, but there are some problems:
- proximity sensor too lazy when you are calling.
- light sensor lazy
- vibration soft
These are for the most annoying problems
Your points are solid. I wholeheartedly agree
To be honest I didn't have any problems. After one OTA the SD card wasn't visible in the System settings, but, at least for me, it was accessible. Since the last OTA this is restored, and there's also App to SD functionality.
Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.
i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time
Android is too fragmented to expect a flawless experience. Hardware is too widely varied and the manufacturers push for new devices too quickly for the fine tuning to ever happen. If Android controlled the hardware like Apple does , you could see polish and refinement. Too many models, too many updates, many issues. It's easier to make it good enough and move on to the latest and greatest.
My OnePlus X should arrive early next week!
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i dont get it
they cud have easily have given maxxaudio with opx but they didnt and as a result the audio output is not upto the mark
i am dissapointed with this
the stock equalizer sucks big time
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Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.
Quasar said:
Really? The OnePlus X is (for some strange reason) one of the first devices to use the Ultrasound Driver from CAF. It's not about the equalizer, mate. The audio output from the headphone jack is incredible, and IMO you need new headphones if you think this is bad.
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I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Yep you do.
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Yep you do. [/]
nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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coolasnju1993 said:
nd from where did you come to know that onx uses ultrasound sound drivers from caf??
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From the vendor blobs.
coolasnju1993 said:
I use apple earpods and its still not good I guess I need to change my earphones :|
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Dude apple earpods are the suckiest pair money can buy. If you love your music, buy new ones. Btw I got Brainwavz m2 and they are awesome
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Tbh, based on a whole lot of other devices that I've used, the response to fix even the tiniest of niggles has been pretty stunning.
There are so many devices out there with software issues that are never resolved by OEMs. Also, I've not seen a single major hitch in the software. The SD card issue was only a visual one, from what I know, and the update before that was a generic update to improve the camera app and some performance enhancements. I'd say it's good that the OEM is releasing timely fixes rater than letting the issues stagnate.
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Yes, indeed they are fast in fixing issues, but 1) we're talking about OOS specific bugs and 2) we're still talking about weeks, potentially months before it's all fixed. They definitely listen more to the users than other companies, but just today, I updated to the latest OOS version and suddenly there is lag when scrolling in the browser (NBPro, when swiping up/down it literally stops after just some millimeters) and the display seems less reactive in general, especially when using gestures on the lockscreen.
I've read about the same issues here on xda and on the oneplus forum and yes, maybe I can solve it by wiping or resetting, but I don't want to have to do that and spend more time than necessary on it, I didn't sign up to be a beta-tester for OOS.
Again, I'm happy I bought it and I will be patient (CM is close..) but it feels that with each update they fix some issues but create some new ones.
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The SD card issue was only a visual one,"
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That might be true, but as a customer I expect 100% perfect device since I paid 100% of the price.
Gonna to skip 6T , same chip as 6 . Anyone else?
if oneplus 6t will be without headphone jack 3.5 than definitely wait oneplus7 or stuck with galaxy s10.
nytebird said:
Once the headphone jack goes away I don't think it will be coming back I'm speaking on 855 chip ( Qualcomm)
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so you want to say that retarded oneplus is dead from now on.
I am highly upset to loose another market player.
google trash company is dead on phone market, now oneplus,
hopefully samsung will stand out.
freaking hipsters, retarded people.
x111 said:
if oneplus 6t will be without headphone jack 3.5 than definitely wait oneplus7 or stuck with galaxy s10.
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Once the headphone jack goes away I don't think it will be coming back I'm speaking on 855 chip ( Qualcomm)
Heh...some folks are pretty emotionally attached to their headphone jacks...
Moderator can you close this thread,no one wants to stay on topic. Thanks
The only thing that doesn't suck about being old is that you have all the coffee table one life will ever need and you can spend on toys. I usually buy two phones a year so if I like the 7 I'll just buy it then. And yeah, I'd second the idea that every thread isn't an opportunity to complain about the lack of a headphone jack, seems like the forum is big enough to have a thread or two without those complaints.
Thread closed as OP request.