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As you can tell from my title, the face buttons on my g2 isn't working. Let me give you some back ground information about it. It is my sister's g2. She didn't have insurance on it for whatever reason, fell out of her pocket, and got ran over by a 15 passenger van. I took it apart, replaced the screen, and gave it back to her, with everything functional. Couple weeks later she apparently dropped it "just right" cause the screen stopped working again. (fyi, my sister is REALLY bad with electronics...) She decided she's going to get a mt4g so she gave the g2 to me. I replace the screen again, and do the spring mod for the hinge. Everything goes well, boot it up and such. But alas, the face keys don't work. Pulled the battery, did factory reset, neither of these worked. So does anyone have any ideas or clues on what to do?
Wow it got ran over by a van and your g2 is still some what intact? That's crazy... Well I bet you need to replace some components of the soft keys since they might be damaged
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lainvalenajr said:
Wow it got ran over by a van and your g2 is still some what intact? That's crazy... Well I bet you need to replace some components of the soft keys since they might be damaged
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When I replaced the screen the first time after it got ran over, the soft keys still worked flawlessly. Was only after my sister dropped it and broke the screen again, that apparently they don't work.
That is insanity that this damn thing got run over by a van and somehow still manages to function. Go HTC your hardware is pretty fantastic despite its flaws.
you can use key tracker to see if the system is registering any kind of key press, and button remapper to reassign the functions you need to the volume up/down and camera buttons or trackpad center until you figure out something better.
Hope this helps.
Thanks ill dawg. The key tracker showed me that its not registering any thing from the home keys, as much as I suspected. I noticed at the bottomish of the screen there is a dead area on the touch screen, so the digitizer must of gotten ruined too, so I have to replace that next. The button remapper does provide an adequate work around for now though.
I think the regular phone speaker got messed up as well, though I'm not sure on that, could of been like that all along, but appears to be damage on the metal "screen" area that protects it, so I'll probably replace that too.
So, while I'm already that far into the phone again (hopefully for the last time), are there any other hardware tweaks I should do for my phone? I have already done the hinge spring mod.
FYI the van that ran over this phone is a 2009 Ford E series van with a large wheel chair lift in the back. The stock weight is almost 5000 pounds, no idea how much the lift adds to it, nor the people inside. So one can only imagine the forces put onto this phone, and the only thing that seemed to have broke was the screen/digitizer and speaker...damn I love htc
Rubic13 said:
Thanks ill dawg. The key tracker showed me that its not registering any thing from the home keys, as much as I suspected. I noticed at the bottomish of the screen there is a dead area on the touch screen, so the digitizer must of gotten ruined too, so I have to replace that next. The button remapper does provide an adequate work around for now though.
I think the regular phone speaker got messed up as well, though I'm not sure on that, could of been like that all along, but appears to be damage on the metal "screen" area that protects it, so I'll probably replace that too.
So, while I'm already that far into the phone again (hopefully for the last time), are there any other hardware tweaks I should do for my phone? I have already done the hinge spring mod.
FYI the van that ran over this phone is a 2009 Ford E series van with a large wheel chair lift in the back. The stock weight is almost 5000 pounds, no idea how much the lift adds to it, nor the people inside. So one can only imagine the forces put onto this phone, and the only thing that seemed to have broke was the screen/digitizer and speaker...damn I love htc
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I'm not surprised the G2 has taken this amount of damage. The HTC Evo is known to stop bullets and still work flawlessly.
wow...what a tank of a phone.
btw, i'm curious how much do the screen replacements cost? is it really worthwhile to replace it as opposed to getting a new phone?
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btw, i'm curious how much do the screen replacements cost? is it really worthwhile to replace it as opposed to getting a new phone?
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I bought it off of repairs universe, probably can be found cheaper but meh, was lazy. Screen costs 50, then 5 bucks for T5 Torx screwdriver, then 5 or so for shipping I believe. So your looking at 60 bucks, compared to the 120-160 it was for insurance to replace it(least thats what it cost me when i wrecked my g1). You also need a smallish phillips screwdriver as well, but I had a whole assortment of those already so no idea what it'll run you for that.
The digitizer runs for 65 bucks on repairuniverse, but found an amazon listing for 30 bucks, so figure I'll give that a try.
All said I'll be about 100 bucks into the phone. So cheaper than insurance, and also I feel now that if anything goes wrong with the hardware, I know the innards well enough that I can fix or replace just about anything.
imdando said:
wow...what a tank of a phone.
btw, i'm curious how much do the screen replacements cost? is it really worthwhile to replace it as opposed to getting a new phone?
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According to source Repairs-Universe the screen and digitizer cost $49.99 and $64.99 respectively.
I suppose to answer your last question it would depend on how handy with a set of wrenches the end user is. I have no idea if "run over by a van" is a legitimate insurance claim, but I know that I would certainly love my phone a lot more if I ripped it apart and put a new screen in. Being able to tell some random bar-jack, "Why yes, my telephone did get run over by a van and all I had to do was replace the screen" is pretty good word of mouth advertising for HTC.
Edit: beaten like a two handed chimpanzee going for a banana
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I have no idea if "run over by a van" is a legitimate insurance claim,
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Insurance covers any damage or loss. I could tell them I paid a hooker to pee on me while I played the picolo into my phone and the urine ruined my phone. Approved. Unless you have a picolo exemption on your policy. Then you're ****ed.
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well final update. In total I replaced the lcd screen, touch screen, and ear piece speaker, and works 100% now. I did go ahead and do the spring mod and got the bigger capacity batteries from amazon. So yeah other than a few scuffs and such, it is impossible to tell that it was ran over by a 3 tonn vehicle.
It may be overused, but:
It's not a bug. It's a feature.
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It may be overused, but:
It's not a bug. It's a feature.
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Forgive me, but what are you even talking about? What is a feature?
The phone definitely boots up because the lights on the buttons flash on then turn off after some time. The keyboard also lights up. You can tell the backlight turns on on the screen, but there is no picture.
Anyone have any idea about what I should do? Thinking about trying to restore to a stock Tom somehow tonight. Then I'm thinking about looking for screen replacements.
I was curious if anyone has had this issue before.
Update 07/14/11
So I got the screen and switched the old one out for the new one. This one also only has the backlight turning on, but I noticed when I put a part back on, there was a little bump in the middle of the phone. Haven't had a chance to fix it, but I noticed it's a piece hitting this rubber piece that seems to "transport" the sound for the mic from the bottom of the phone to the actual microphone module within the phone.
Removed that rubber piece, and I'll try installing it later. I was getting some blue and red visible in the middle of the phone. Anyone know what's wrong?
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The phone definitely boots up because the lights on the buttons flash on then turn off after some time. The keyboard also lights up. You can tell the backlight turns on on the screen, but there is no picture.
Anyone have any idea about what I should do? Thinking about trying to restore to a stock Tom somehow tonight. Then I'm thinking about looking for screen replacements.
I was curious if anyone has had this issue before.
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ebay for the parts and look around for the link for repairs. I don't exactly remember the link, but it's in one of the "spring replacement" threads. Good luck
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ebay for the parts and look around for the link for repairs. I don't exactly remember the link, but it's in one of the "spring replacement" threads. Good luck
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How sure are you it's the LCD screen? Replacement screens cost more than what I bought the phone for...lol
it's mostly the physical connection to the screen.
and on your note about it costing more than what you bought the phone for... there are tons of parts on the phone that will cost more than 30bucks. not much you can do about that since you got it non fully functional.
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it's mostly the physical connection to the screen.
and on your note about it costing more than what you bought the phone for... there are tons of parts on the phone that will cost more than 30bucks. not much you can do about that since you got it non fully functional.
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Sorry to be a both, but what exactly is the physical connection? Do I find it by opening the phone up completely to the point where I replace the actual LCD?
albanianbrotha said:
Sorry to be a both, but what exactly is the physical connection? Do I find it by opening the phone up completely to the point where I replace the actual LCD?
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Never had to do it myself, but there is a cable connecting the two parts of the phone. That is usually where this problem originates from. It's not easy to fix though if your not familiar with fixing electronics from what i have seen.
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Never had to do it myself, but there is a cable connecting the two parts of the phone. That is usually where this problem originates from. It's not easy to fix though if your not familiar with fixing electronics from what i have seen.
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I've taken apart my laptop completely and put it back together before. Completely as in taking the lcd off and different chips and wireless modules and stuff. I think it may be something I can handle. I'm going to take a look at it now. Restoring wont do me any good because not even the boot screen shows up.
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Sorry to be a both, but what exactly is the physical connection? Do I find it by opening the phone up completely to the point where I replace the actual LCD?
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It's pretty much a ribbon cable that feeds data to display and stuff. When you buy a spare screen, it usually comes with a connector
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It's pretty much a ribbon cable that feeds data to display and stuff. When you buy a spare screen, it usually comes with a connector
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So I completely tore apart the phone, got to the point where if I had another LCD screen, I could have easily switched it out. But I don't, so I just put it all back together. I really hope this new LCD will fix the issue. I really hope it's not some other motherboard issue. If all else fails, it goes up on eBay for $70-$100 as is for the phone. If I fix it, I just got myself a phone that goes for $200 used for only $57.
sure. goodluck with it. if you can do it then you're all set. good luck
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So I completely tore apart the phone, got to the point where if I had another LCD screen, I could have easily switched it out. But I don't, so I just put it all back together. I really hope this new LCD will fix the issue. I really hope it's not some other motherboard issue. If all else fails, it goes up on eBay for $70-$100 as is for the phone. If I fix it, I just got myself a phone that goes for $200 used for only $57.
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Only $57? That would make the lcd screen $27 if u really paid $30 for the phone, but you said the screen was more than what u paid for the phone...so now im confused.
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Got my fingers crossed for ya that your getting ur phone fixed over there
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Only $57? That would make the lcd screen $27 if u really paid $30 for the phone, but you said the screen was more than what u paid for the phone...so now im confused.
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Sorry. After some searching on eBay, I found some sellers selling it for a few dollars less than 30, e.g. 27.
But I decided to go with a seller who sold more than 200, who claims the screen is an OEM screen, and who is top rated. He sells his for $32. Which makes my phone $62 after all is said and done.
The housing has some scratches on the top and bottom though, which decreases the value a bit, but hey, if it works I'll probably keep it as a backup. Currently have the HD2, but I got a Vibrant with original box and accessories for $100, so I think I'm going to sell the HD2.
That was kinda off topic, sorry
LCD screen should be here by the 13th.
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someone help =|
I don't own a G2 but I still think this could be a similar issue to what we get over here on the HTC Droid Incredible. First, what makes you believe its still a screen issue if it lit but just didn't throw picture? Usually thats the symptom of having the wrong recovery version for the device hardware version. Normally for us what happens is we will get somebody who is new and rooting for the first time and they'll end up flashing the wrong recovery or freak out because they don't realize the root process takes a little while and yank the cord. End result being exactly what you've explained above. Phone starts but no screen. So we end up having them do the ruu or a second option which we call a "blind install" where you drop whatever your p file(ours is PB31IMG.zip) so whatever it is for the G2 drop that on the SD and reboot to hboot and do the update process by simply knowing how long to wait between key presses and what keys to hit without useing the screen. Its a unique process and all very magical. Haven't lost a single Inc yet because of this issue.
Anyways bud just a thought...
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I don't own a G2 but I still think this could be a similar issue to what we get over here on the HTC Droid Incredible. First, what makes you believe its still a screen issue if it lit but just didn't throw picture? Usually thats the symptom of having the wrong recovery version for the device hardware version. Normally for us what happens is we will get somebody who is new and rooting for the first time and they'll end up flashing the wrong recovery or freak out because they don't realize the root process takes a little while and yank the cord. End result being exactly what you've explained above. Phone starts but no screen. So we end up having them do the ruu or a second option which we call a "blind install" where you drop whatever your p file(ours is PB31IMG.zip) so whatever it is for the G2 drop that on the SD and reboot to hboot and do the update process by simply knowing how long to wait between key presses and what keys to hit without useing the screen. Its a unique process and all very magical. Haven't lost a single Inc yet because of this issue.
Anyways bud just a thought...
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It doesn't seem to be a ROM issue.
Update 7/18: Sold the G2 on eBay and still made a good lump of money. I was very happy, until another G2 popped up with the same exact issue. Got it for a steal as well, and I tried the OEM screen I got from eBay, and it was still having issues, and it seems to cause the phone to overheat while charging. Definitely a defective screen and someones getting a great deal on a decent condition G2 because I already took the payment after I figured it was the screen I got.
I'm going to try to get a replacement from the guy that sold it to me on eBay, but I already left him positive feedback thinking it was the phone's fault.
Will update probably late July or early August when all of this gets sorted out.
TL;DR: bought 2nd g2 with same issue, turns out replacement screen didn't work in the 2nd g2, too late to not sell the first g2, getting another replacement screen to fix 2nd g2. First g2 was in better condition though =|
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
Just installed the second screen that I ordered, and it works PERFECTLY. Phone is perfect nowwww yay. I can't use it right now though, previous owned put a lock pattern on the phone...
Wipe the system and the data and start over.
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Gratz now a factory wipe and root with a new rom will make it run sweet.
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I bought a used nexus S today. and surpringly i found that an area (vertical rectangle) on the left side of the screen is not sensitive at all.
The screen is totally unresponsive on this area. So can you please help and tell me if it's a hardware problem or not? (no warrantly as it is a used phone)
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I bought a used nexus S today. and surpringly i found that an area (vertical rectangle) on the left side of the screen is not sensitive at all.
The screen is totally unresponsive on this area. So can you please help and tell me if it's a hardware problem or not? (no warrantly as it is a used phone)
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Most likely hardware problem try and flash different rom and see if it fixes problem.if not its probably the digitizer that is causing the problem
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rumor:
i have seen a problem very much like yours in other forum , in which , someone gave an answer and worked , but , i am not for if it is real or they were just bullshitting
get a lighter , you should have one if you smoke , take out that part which make fire , i dont know how exactly call it .
one way to identify it is what i want to say. if you put your finger over it , you should feel small electrical shock when you push the button
find that part , and shock the screen where unresponsive with it ...
don't ask me how is it works , i dont know ... you can either ignore me or take a shot...
good luck to you
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you may not have warranty , but i think you can find some mobile shop to fix it , of course , you need to pay for it...
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one thing i can tell you
in China , replace SLCD screen needs about 600 CNY , which means about 100 USD
SA creen nees about 900 CNY , about 150 USD ...
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get a lighter , you should have one if you smoke , take out that part which make fire , i dont know how exactly call it .
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The flint???
No he's talking about an electronic lighter.
No idea how safe it is to send a shock of current through the capacitive screen though, read up more before you attempt.
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i said this is rumor and i am not sure if it is real or just bull****
consider thing wouldn't get any worse , you may worth to try it
Flashed different roms and results is the same.
Did someone try the lighter solution?
Is it easy to change the digitizer?
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Flashed different roms and results is the same.
Did someone try the lighter solution?
Is it easy to change the digitizer?
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No you need to seperate digitizer from the screen. Risking breaking the screen. You can buy the digizteir and screen that is preassembled buy it's pricy.
.around 100 I think. Buy the digitizer and take it to the local shop its probably cheaper that way.
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I have the same problem with the area by the backspace and "p" keys in portrait mode and along the status bar in landscape with the charging port to the right.
I went running with my phone in my waistband. Stupid I know. When I got home, my phone was soaked and the screen was 100% unresponsive and the colors would change intermittently.
I put it in a bowl of rice for a few days in a warm area of my apt, but it hasn't fully recovered two months later. You MAY consider removing the screen and checking for particulates or trapped water vapor. I've been meaning to, but haven't managed to get the tools yet.
I'd be interested to here about your solution if you find one.
Best of luck.
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yes , i saw a video someone solved this problem with lighter
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yes , i saw a video someone solved this problem with lighter
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Can you please post a link to it? thanks
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Can you please post a link to it? thanks
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here is http://static.youku.com/v1.0.0192/v/swf/loader.swf?VideoIDS=XMjY3MDcwODI0&embedid=NzcuMjI4LjIwNy42MwI2Njc2NzcwNgIC
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in the first few seconds , the author demonstrated right side of his screen "number 3 6 9 " were non-responsive , and then he use that thing from lighter , shock the screen thought his finger, sure , that's gonna be little hurt...
but , be careful , i also read , this method MAY REDUCE THE LIFE OF SCREEN.
Thank you very much for your answer. As said above, things can't be worse. I'll try this method and tell you the results.
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Thank you very much for your answer. As said above, things can't be worse. I'll try this method and tell you the results.
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yep , wish you luck
This is for anyone who does not want to accidentally HARD-BRICK their Nexus S.
I have read a post somewhere in this device's section that some chinese people who owned this device did something similar which also resulted to a non-repairable hard-brick.
Do not remove the battery if you still see the google logo before the boot-animation.
Description of the hard-brick I experienced:
The capacitive touch buttons do not light up and there is no vibration when the power button is pressed.
The device cannot be detected by any PC.
The device is now literally just a brick.
Updates(12/13/2013 - 01/11/2014):
I sent my device to several phone technicians with proper equipment but nobody was able to tell me why this happened, and what exactly happened.
Each of those techs examined the device for several hours and their conclusion: none.
JTAG (did twice) will not work in this kind of hard-brick.
I went to two official samsung service centers and they both suggested for me to have the motherboard replaced at the cost of ~$270. They cannot explain what happened either.
If I am to obtain a motherboard replacement from an unofficial service the cost would still be 2x the price of a used nexus s.
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I'm about to update my nexus s to the latest CM11. I wiped everything, flashed the rom and gapps via recovery, and everything was fine.
Until.... I decided to remove my sim card, as usual, then set the phone up for a fresh install.
What I did wrong:
1. I removed the back cover, the battery, then the sim card
2. I re-installed the battery, but NOT the back cover
3. I booted the device, then upon boot (google logo) the battery accidentally FELL OFF.
So what happened? I re-installed the battery, then NOTHING. When pressing the power button, no vibration, no signs of life. NOTHING.
I learned a lot using this device. Time to move on to a faster phone
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ej8989 said:
I'm about to update my nexus s to the latest CM11. I wiped everything, flashed the rom and gapps via recovery, and everything was fine.
Until.... I decided to remove my sim card, as usual, then set the phone up for a fresh install.
What I did wrong:
1. I removed the back cover, the battery, then the sim card
2. I re-installed the battery, but NOT the back cover
3. I booted the device, then upon boot (google logo) the battery accidentally FELL OFF.
So what happened? I re-installed the battery, then NOTHING. When pressing the power button, no vibration, no signs of life. NOTHING.
I learned a lot using this device. Time to move on to a faster phone
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Sorry about your phone , but I'm not trying your how to guide... What are you moving to?
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Setting.Out said:
Sorry about your phone , but I'm not trying your how to guide... What are you moving to?
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It'll take me half a month to decide. I chose the nexus s because of voodoo sound. I don't really know what to choose next. :/
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It'll take me half a month to decide. I chose the nexus s because of voodoo sound. I don't really know what to choose next. :/
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I want an Oppo find 5.. or an N5.. or a Moto X.. or a Htc one... or a... you're going to need that month..
It can be fix, but only to a shop service store.. with their stuff. They take the battery out.. are wiring your phone.. and install the new rom.. does'nt matter witch one. Then you can install what you want..
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I'm about to update my nexus s to the latest CM11. I wiped everything, flashed the rom and gapps via recovery, and everything was fine.
Until.... I decided to remove my sim card, as usual, then set the phone up for a fresh install.
What I did wrong:
1. I removed the back cover, the battery, then the sim card
2. I re-installed the battery, but NOT the back cover
3. I booted the device, then upon boot (google logo) the battery accidentally FELL OFF.
So what happened? I re-installed the battery, then NOTHING. When pressing the power button, no vibration, no signs of life. NOTHING.
I learned a lot using this device. Time to move on to a faster phone
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too me, but yesterday
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sirtivi said:
It can be fix, but only to a shop service store.. with their stuff. They take the battery out.. are wiring your phone.. and install the new rom.. does'nt matter witch one. Then you can install what you want..
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You are sure??and you have idea what it costs to fix it?
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It can be fix, but only to a shop service store.. with their stuff. They take the battery out.. are wiring your phone.. and install the new rom.. does'nt matter witch one. Then you can install what you want..
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too me, but yesterday
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You are sure??and you have idea what it costs to fix it?
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No it can't be repaired. I had my unit checked thru a phone repair shop and they got all the tools needed for JTAG, JIG, re-flash, etc.etc...
For 5 hours they tried everything and I waited. Their conclusion: something's broken on the circuit board. Might be the integrated chip, the processor, etc..
Their advice for me is to hand it over to samsung for a circuit board replacement, but that will cost as much as a 2nd-hand Nexus S.
But still, there's no harm, in trying. Tell me if you had yours fixed :good:
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No it can't be repaired. I had my unit checked thru a phone repair shop and they got all the tools needed for JTAG, JIG, re-flash, etc.etc...
For 5 hours they tried everything and I waited. Their conclusion: something's broken on the circuit board. Might be the integrated chip, the processor, etc..
Their advice for me is to hand it over to samsung for a circuit board replacement, but that will cost as much as a 2nd-hand Nexus S.
But still, there's no harm, in trying. Tell me if you had yours fixed :good:
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You can try go and ask about the cost.. ussualy it shoed do around 20-50 Euro depending the contry.
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You can try go and ask about the cost.. ussualy it shoed do around 20-50 Euro depending the contry.
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Samsung service center told me it would cost as much as €200 lol. That's about as much as a Nexus 4. I'll go with the Nexus 4.
ej8989 said:
Samsung service center told me it would cost as much as €200 lol. That's about as much as a Nexus 4. I'll go with the Nexus 4.
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Try a private service.. not a official service.
After a little less than a month of finding phone repair shops (even official samsung service center) noone was able to explain to me what happened to my phone; not even samsung. Because of this, samsung just concluded that replacing the motherboard of the device for about €200 will fix it without being 100% sure.
This is therefore a warning to all Nexus S users: Do not remove the battery when the phone is still booting, specifically on google logo. :good:
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Try a private service.. not a official service.
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:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
ej8989 said:
This is for anyone who does not want to accidentally HARD-BRICK their Nexus S.
I have read a post somewhere in this device's section that some chinese people who owned this device did something similar which also resulted to a non-repairable hard-brick.
Do not remove the battery if you still see the google logo before the boot-animation.
Description of the hard-brick I experienced:
The capacitive touch buttons do not light up and there is no vibration when the power button is pressed.
The device cannot be detected by any PC.
The device is now literally just a brick.
Updates(12/13/2013 - 01/11/2014):
I sent my device to several phone technicians with proper equipment but nobody was able to tell me why this happened, and what exactly happened.
Each of those techs examined the device for several hours and their conclusion: none.
JTAG (did twice) will not work in this kind of hard-brick.
I went to two official samsung service centers and they both suggested for me to have the motherboard replaced at the cost of ~$270. They cannot explain what happened either.
If I am to obtain a motherboard replacement from an unofficial service the cost would still be 2x the price of a used nexus s.
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my nexus s isn't bricked but capacitive touch buttons are not working (also not lighting up) i have tired many custom roms... any suggestion?
there is also no vibration in phone, may be it is a hardware problem...
ej8989 said:
Description of the hard-brick I experienced:
The capacitive touch buttons do not light up and there is no vibration when the power button is pressed.
The device cannot be detected by any PC.
The device is now literally just a brick.
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This is what happened to my phone just minutes ago. I was watching Frozen using MX Player (S/W decoder) and the screen froze. I removed the battery and when I attempted to turn my phone on, It just wouldnt.
rho57 said:
This is what happened to my phone just minutes ago. I was watching Frozen using MX Player (S/W decoder) and the screen froze. I removed the battery and when I attempted to turn my phone on, It just wouldnt.
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Try a JTAG service. Most phone repair shops have them. The last resort would be the unbrickable resurrector, which i have yet to try. I don't have the tools needed yet (and a linux system).
ej8989 said:
Try a JTAG service. Most phone repair shops have them. The last resort would be the unbrickable resurrector, which i have yet to try. I don't have the tools needed yet (and a linux system).
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Thanks. I hope there'll be repair shops that could do that. I was tempted to buy a new phone, but I'll try as you suggested. BTW, in my case if I let the battery in for quite some time the phone heats up. Did this happen to yours too?
rho57 said:
Thanks. I hope there'll be repair shops that could do that. I was tempted to buy a new phone, but I'll try as you suggested. BTW, in my case if I let the battery in for quite some time the phone heats up. Did this happen to yours too?
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Yes it does.
I dislike "me too!" posts, but one is appropriate here.
This just happened to me, exactly as described by OP.
Time to find a damaged Nexus S for real cheap and salvage the board, or get a new phone. Certainly not looking for another Samsung device, this issue is ridiculous. Fortunately Samsung has nothing to do with the Nexus 5.
I'm going to call for this thread to be stickied. Had I been aware of this vulnerability, I never would have been hacking on the phone with the cover off.
Edit: The thread title should be changed, to add something to the effect off "- Battery removal during Google Logo == BRICK"
Strange.
I removed the battery while it was booting (Google Logo) about 20 times today already.
Hrm. Was your handset attached to USB at the time? Mine was.
So something I noticed on my old note 4 is that the screen has a strip unresponsive to touch (pen works fine).
The thing that weirds me out is that when you reboot the phone, it works perfectly fine, but after being on for a few hours, the middle part of the screen just stops responding.
Rebooting revives the part of the screen, but not for long. Factory resetting it does nothing different and it's running completely stock firmware and software.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? I'm not sure if replacing the screen would help since it seems to work fine for the short duration that it does.
It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
Unidave199 said:
It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
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Either a blown display or mobo.
A trace, solder joint, micro weld or junction failed.
It's possible it could be a connector/ribbon cable failure in which case easily repairable.
Check the display/mobo ribbon connectors...
Unidave199 said:
It sounds like a digitizer problem. I wonder also if the heat of the phone is causing something to change or even physically warp to cause the unresponsive part.
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I'm pretty sure it's not heat since you can turn it on, leave it on a table, idle without anything running, and it'll be completely room temp and the part of the screen stops responding.
blackhawk said:
Either a blown display or mobo.
A trace, solder joint, micro weld or junction failed.
It's possible it could be a connector/ribbon cable failure in which case easily repairable.
Check the display/mobo ribbon connectors...
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I'll give them a look over, hopefully reseating connectors may help
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I'm pretty sure it's not heat since you can turn it on, leave it on a table, idle without anything running, and it'll be completely room temp and the part of the screen stops responding.
I'll give them a look over, hopefully reseating connectors may help
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Could be literally 100s of thousands of parts that could have failed; semiconductor junctions, resistors or caps.
Solder failures aren't uncommon either.
If you spare parts, use the process of elimination. If you really like that model having a few parts queens around is a plan.
Hopefully it's a connector contact... check all connections including grounds.
For $650 you can get a Note 10+ 512gb in excellent condition... don't got too nuts trying to fix it.
blackhawk said:
Could be literally 100s of thousands of parts that could have failed; semiconductor junctions, resistors or caps.
Solder failures aren't uncommon either.
If you spare parts, use the process of elimination. If you really like that model having a few parts queens around is a plan.
Hopefully it's a connector contact... check all connections including grounds.
For $650 you can get a Note 10+ 512gb in excellent condition... don't got too nuts trying to fix it.
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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You're my hero... I am not good enough to mess with solders and digging that deep! Good Luck!
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i'm not using this phone, it's my dad's old phone that i just want to mess around with since he put it in a drawer a while ago. I don't really plan on putting much into it. just hopefully get it running well and to **** around with roms on it.
Also $650 still isn't cheap for a phone when you're paying cash outright :v
at least a lot more expensive than a $50 screen replacement or $35 motherboard
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I gave you a top shelf example.
Lots S-10s etc.
There's no guarantee swamping out parts will fix anything. The devil is in the details.
blackhawk said:
I gave you a top shelf example.
Lots S-10s etc.
There's no guarantee swamping out parts will fix anything. The devil is in the details.
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Fair enough
reseating things didn't help, may see if i can scrounge up an old parts phone or something
YellowSomething said:
Fair enough
reseating things didn't help, may see if i can scrounge up an old parts phone or something
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Sorry to hear that.
Some devices seem to defy being repaired.
45 years ago Tom Schall owned a TV repair shop. He was an excellent technician with a engineering degree in electronics.
He swapped out a trouble filled Magnavox chassis with a known good one for a customer after repairing the original one at least twice only to have another circuit fail.
After a month he did the swamp but continued to try and fix the original. He repaired completely different sections of it only to have another one fail, HV, tuner, horizontal output, audio, and more.
Never once did it survive a couple days of burn in, sometimes only hours. It got to be a running joke. Hundreds of test point checks, scoped it, testing isolated components pondering how it could be so cryptic to repair. At this point no one else would even touch it... but Tom persisted for at least 3 more years in his spare time.
If there's a heaven or hell I'm sure Tom's still tinkering with that chassis. RIP
They weren't called Magotboxes for nothing
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YellowSomething said:
So something I noticed on my old note 4 is that the screen has a strip unresponsive to touch (pen works fine).
The thing that weirds me out is that when you reboot the phone, it works perfectly fine, but after being on for a few hours, the middle part of the screen just stops responding.
Rebooting revives the part of the screen, but not for long. Factory resetting it does nothing different and it's running completely stock firmware and software.
Any ideas as to what's causing this? I'm not sure if replacing the screen would help since it seems to work fine for the short duration that it does.
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See if this works for you, it did for me after i thinking digitser was kerputt.
on Dialler, dial: *#2663#
if a menu comes up, choose the top left option to upgrade the fw for touchscreen, wait for complete, then hit home button and see if it works. Maybe best to try after your screen goes funny, it should fix straight away
thewudz said:
See if this works for you, it did for me after i thinking digitser was kerputt.
on Dialler, dial: *#2663#
if a menu comes up, choose the top left option to upgrade the fw for touchscreen, wait for complete, then hit home button and see if it works. Maybe best to try after your screen goes funny, it should fix straight away
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That worked at first, but I rebooted the phone and it seems to be doing it again. I tried to update the firmware again, and it's not working. Any advice? It worked fine for over a day without any issue after doing that at first, now it's back to doing it again.
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That worked at first, but I rebooted the phone and it seems to be doing it again. I tried to update the firmware again, and it's not working. Any advice? It worked fine for over a day without any issue after doing that at first, now it's back to doing it again.
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Sorry late reply, I didnt get a notification. It worked for me and I haven't had to do it again, it likely sounds like you have a hardware issue unfortunately.
Only other option maybe, is putting on a custom rom, which will instigate a full system wipe and a new fresh software install to a more modern Android version. Possibly may be worth a shot?
thewudz said:
Sorry late reply, I didnt get a notification. It worked for me and I haven't had to do it again, it likely sounds like you have a hardware issue unfortunately.
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Alright, update.
i tried again, and it fixed it, but a while later, it did it again. Since that seemed to fix it for a bit, i can't imagine it being solely a hardware problem.
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Only other option maybe, is putting on a custom rom, which will instigate a full system wipe and a new fresh software install to a more modern Android version. Possibly may be worth a shot?
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honestly, that's the plan as of right now. As much as I like the S-pen features on this, it'd be for the better if it fixes it.
Update, TWRP + new rom installed. Still does it.
With Refined Nougat N7FE, I'm able to open the screen firmware menu from the dialer and update like with the stock rom. It sometimes fixes it for a while, but ends up doing it again.