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OK, heres the situation, I recently got an S4 phone here in Europe UNLOCKED.
I want to know how to install the Stock version of Android 4.3 on this phone (cureent version is 4.2.2).
* Do I have to ROOT the phone?
* Do I have to install or flash ROMs or install custom ROMs?
* My carrier is T-Mobile.
If its too too complicated or running the risk of "bricking" my phone to do this, then I would just pass and stick with the default Samsung's Android version.
Is there any detailed step-by-step guides to this?
One more VERY VERY important question. I also run Samsung KNOX for security. If I would have the Stock Google version of Android on this, will the Samsung KNOX feature be wiped out???
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox#con02
Thanks in advance!
itsonlyme999 said:
OK, heres the situation, I recently got an S4 phone here in Europe UNLOCKED.
I want to know how to install the Stock version of Android 4.3 on this phone (cureent version is 4.2.2).
* Do I have to ROOT the phone?
* Do I have to install or flash ROMs or install custom ROMs?
* My carrier is T-Mobile.
If its too too complicated or running the risk of "bricking" my phone to do this, then I would just pass and stick with the default Samsung's Android version.
Is there any detailed step-by-step guides to this?
One more VERY VERY important question. I also run Samsung KNOX for security. If I would have the Stock Google version of Android on this, will the Samsung KNOX feature be wiped out???
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox#con02
Thanks in advance!
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1. Yes, Root, download GooManager from playstore install a Custom Recovery.
2. Install the rom from the zip file via the custom recovery
3. Yes there are plenty of guides, check out youtube videos. Just search for install 4.3 Samsung S4....
4. Yes you risk bricking your device, there is always an element of RISK.
5. Samsung KNOX will not be there.
nookcoloruser said:
1. Yes, Root, download GooManager from playstore install a Custom Recovery.
2. Install the rom from the zip file via the custom recovery
3. Yes there are plenty of guides, check out youtube videos. Just search for install 4.3 Samsung S4....
4. Yes you risk bricking your device, there is always an element of RISK.
5. Samsung KNOX will not be there.
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Ok, forget it. My day to day work environment MUST require the use of the KNOX feature. It is a requirement and must have it.
But thanks anyway for the help.
There is no need to root. Just flash custom recovery via Odin and follow the next steps above.
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KNOX feature is Touchwiz framework... Since your workplace force you have KNOX enabled, you cannot flash 4.3 (there is no 4.3 TW ROM) nor keep root permission (KNOX). Id rather stick with stock if I were you.
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Radukk said:
KNOX feature is Touchwiz framework... Since your workplace force you have KNOX enabled, you cannot flash 4.3 (there is no 4.3 TW ROM) nor keep root permission (KNOX). Id rather stick with stock if I were you.
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Ahhhh, my fault. I think I mis giuded you all here.
Its OK if I still have the 4.2.2 version of Android. But, I would like steps on how to install the Google Stock Android version KEEPING version 4.2.2. It does not have to be 4.3 at this point.
If its very complicated, then I will buy the S4 Google Play edition in the future.
The play edition will still not have Knox
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I want to ask a question. Will samsung galaxy s4 GT-I9505 be able to update to 4.3 stock android (like google play edition) via OTA? I dont want to root the phone,and i am enough patient to wait until 4.3 stock is released for this model.
fiogos said:
I want to ask a question. Will samsung galaxy s4 GT-I9505 be able to update to 4.3 stock android (like google play edition) via OTA? I dont want to root the phone,and i am enough patient to wait until 4.3 stock is released for this model.
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No. Touchwiz version out next month. Google edition had touchwiz frame work also mind you so isn't truly stock. The two devices are completely different and the Google edition rom will not be available for this phone. Outside of custom rom that is.
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Is it possible in someway to upgrade your Samsung Galaxy S4 software to vanilla 4.3 without using a custom recovery? If not, if I install stock 4.3 on i9505, will I be able to recieve OTAs that will come in the future?
badantii said:
Is it possible in someway to upgrade your Samsung Galaxy S4 software to vanilla 4.3 without using a custom recovery? If not, if I install stock 4.3 on i9505, will I be able to recieve OTAs that will come in the future?
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If you look here you'll find many ROMs that claim to deliver the "nexus" experience. I haven't found one that could be flashed via Odin, however. You can root your phone and create a full backup of your ROM, and then install CWM or any other recovery manager to flash the one of the nexus-experience ROMs. You can always go back to the Samsung ROMs if you don't like them.
badantii said:
Is it possible in someway to upgrade your Samsung Galaxy S4 software to vanilla 4.3 without using a custom recovery? If not, if I install stock 4.3 on i9505, will I be able to recieve OTAs that will come in the future?
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Sure,
This is the latest stock Google edition ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395030
Aerys said:
Sure,
This is the latest stock Google edition ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395030
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Thanks. I found my answer in that thread. It is not safe to accept OTAs on i9505 because of the different bootloader/radio that i9505GE have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2398217
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Hi,
I am not a programmer / developer but just wanted some expert opinion on how to root and what are the advantages. I have now ended my warranty so please can someone let me know:-
1. How to root safely without messing up KNOX
2. Can I bring the device to the same state if something goes wrong while rooting
3. Is there any substitute for firmware updates
Thanks,
Subbu
Rooting trips knox. You can try Towelroot, probably won't work. Flashing recovery will allow you to flash superuser/obtain root, or just flash a new Rom that's pre rooted.
Any samsung device can be Odined back to stock if needed, just not knox.
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What version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014) do you have? Towelroot won't work with the p600 or the p601. Also it is better to use Obin then a one click root. Read through this topic it explains the whole process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
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Towel root works for P605 up to latest software update as in the link below. The trick is to downgrade the boot.img using odin to a lower firmware e.g. NF2, root with towel root and then upgrade boot.img back to current firmware version. It keeps Knox 0x0. Try and keep your Knox 0x0 status in case it becomes important to you. Flashing custom recovery and kernels will trip knox, and using other rooting methods is likely to trip it also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/p605xxucnj1-firmware-update-t2936219
Good luck.
Thanks for all your responses.
I am looking at orion's website and clear how to root now. Please can someone clarify these for me :-
1. We can root the note but need to remove KNOX (after rooting) as it will not work properly for rooted devices?
2. Is it possible to get the note to the current state if something goes wrong during rooting. If yes, how can we do this?
3. Is it possible to install latest firmwares either from dev community or official Samsung? If it's from the DEV community, then wil it be a simple task of updating firmwares like how we do for official Samsung or do we have to start the process of rooting / stock recovery etc. again?
subram said:
Thanks for all your responses.
I am looking at orion's website and clear how to root now. Please can someone clarify these for me :-
1. We can root the note but need to remove KNOX (after rooting) as it will not work properly for rooted devices?
2. Is it possible to get the note to the current state if something goes wrong during rooting. If yes, how can we do this?
3. Is it possible to install latest firmwares either from dev community or official Samsung? If it's from the DEV community, then wil it be a simple task of updating firmwares like how we do for official Samsung or do we have to start the process of rooting / stock recovery etc. again?
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1. You are correct KNOX will not work and will give annoying and intrusive notification about your tablet being modified. But that is a small price to pay. Your warranty will be invalid after rooting, also a gift from KNOX, and it cannot be reset back to valid.
2. Yes, it is possible to reflash stock through Obin by downloading the firmware from Sammobile.com, not sure if I have the web address right, and flashing it like you do CF-Autoroot and twrp.
3. You cannot take ota updates because it will see the custom recovery and say your system has been modified. Again you can flash official updates from Samsung by using obin and Sammobile or for faster updates use a custom ROM which is actually probably better, but it depends on what you use your tablet for. If you want I can link you to some custom Roms that are stock based or CM based.
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Many thanks Orion. I have SM-P600. Basically, I want to root because I want to remove the official software and other bloatware.
1. Clear
2. By reflashing the stock, you mean setting the note 10.1 2014 to it's original state but through the 'odin-flash method'? So, if I do this, then will I be back to normal (including KNOX) and be able to download firmware updates? How do I do it through
3. What is the difference between sammobile formware and custom ROM?
Two more questions
1. Is it possible to download android 4.4.4 / Android L and install it in my device now than waiting for Samsung to officially release it?
2. Will it be possible to root, remove the unwanted software and then unroot to come back to normal again?
subram said:
2. By reflashing the stock, you mean setting the note 10.1 2014 to it's original state but through the 'odin-flash method'? So, if I do this, then will I be back to normal (including KNOX) and be able to download firmware updates? How do I do it through
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Not quite. Reflashing the stock ROM via Odin will return your device's software configuration to the way it was out of the box. No custom recovery, no root, etc. However, nothing can reset the KNOX counter. Once tripped, it's tripped for good. Reflashing a stock ROM will not allow you to receive OTA updates, you will have to download updates (from SamMobile or another site) and flash via Odin, or use Kies to update. Updating the firmware on your device through either method will cause you to lose root and custom recovery, but you may be able to re-root and reflash custom recovery.
subram said:
3. What is the difference between sammobile formware and custom ROM?
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SamMobile only hosts Samsung official stock firmwares for devices.
And yes, you should be able to root, uninstall unwanted system apps, and then unroot. But again, you will be unable to accept OTA updates.
Understood about the fact that if I root, then I should forget about KNOX once and for all.
- Ok, how do I unroot? Is that straightforward.
- If sammobile releases a firmware update for SM-P600 (let's say android 4.4.4 for US), can I install that via KIES (without root) though I am in the UK?
- If I root, I can then install android L as soon as it is available in the DEV community?
subram said:
Understood about the fact that if I root, then I should forget about KNOX once and for all.
- Ok, how do I unroot? Is that straightforward.
- If sammobile releases a firmware update for SM-P600 (let's say android 4.4.4 for US), can I install that via KIES (without root) though I am in the UK?
- If I root, I can then install android L as soon as it is available in the DEV community?
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1. Yes I have never had to unroot any Samsung device but as far as I know it is just that simple.
2. As long as it is for the p600 then yes it is compatible you should be able to flash without root through Obin.
3. This is a developer to watch this is a CM based rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2938652.
This is a TouchWiz based ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793898. They will be updated quicker then Samsung firmware. Here is a complete list of Roms available for our devices. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723420
Edit: Forgot another useful post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2878586
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siralsmooth said:
Rooting trips knox. You can try Towelroot, probably won't work. Flashing recovery will allow you to flash superuser/obtain root, or just flash a new Rom that's pre rooted.
Any samsung device can be Odined back to stock if needed, just not knox.
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Speaking of which, how does one go about restoring the P600 back to stock? I'm starting to miss some of the S Pen functionality.
Download the stock firmware and flash via Odin with the tablet in download mode. Backup anything important first.
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Chainfire includes an unroot in his SuperSU app, which means you can just root to remove stuff the use the unroot function and then you have stock. There also Roms available that are just debloated stock without root installed. You have to root first to install.
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So, if we root to remove stuff and unroot through SuperSU app, will KNOX mess up again? To be honest, this is all what I want to do.
Another question, if we root, how can we get android L - the same method as odin flash?
1. No knox won't come back if you use the unroot function it just removes root.
2. Yes, obin flash when Samsung release, or install a custom ROM which then you get Lollipop faster.
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I looked at the website for custom ROM. It says I need to have a 'custom recovery' installed and be rooted as well. What do you mean by custom recovery and what should I do to install it?
subram said:
I looked at the website for custom ROM. It says I need to have a 'custom recovery' installed and be rooted as well. What do you mean by custom recovery and what should I do to install it?
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You need to first flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805 through Obin. Then make sure you have root. Then from the play store download flashify. Once you have flashify open it grant it root access and it should say something about a custom recover chose twrp. Flashify will take you to twrp download 2.6.3 not 2.8.1. Then enjoy your custom ROM.
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Thanks Orion. Clear on the process but what is custom ROM and why would I need it?
subram said:
Thanks Orion. Clear on the process but what is custom ROM and why would I need it?
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You don't necessarily need a custom rom(can be called custom OS to) but they are updated faster then stock TouchWiz and they run twice as fast because they are slimmed down. Plus you have control of everything. Some people just want want a more pure android experience but with more customization. TouchWiz is a custom ROM of android because it has features pure android doesn't have a.k.a. multi-window and quick settings with KitKat.
Like I said you don't need a custom ROM but it is a lot more fun to play then rooted TouchWiz. I am linking two custom Roms one is TouchWiz based so it has all of Samsung's features. The other is CM which doesn't have any of the cool features of Samsungs TouchWiz. TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793898. CM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2936863. There are a ton of different options. My a back up with twrp save it to your SD card and enjoy being rooted.
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Thanks for answering my questions patiently Orion. Ok, so if I follow the steps mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2793898, then
1. Will I have Samsung touchwiz ROM and also get all the features mentioned there including notePRO?
2. Will I have multi-window and s-pen features retained?
3. Is the above website free to download?
4. Is it possible to just get the notePRO features after rooting my SM-P600 instead of getting everything from the above website
5. It looks like there is a 1.7 GB file that I need to download in my local PC before I flash it with odin?
6. There is a mention in the above website that we need to be rooted and also have custom ROM installed so If I have to install hyperdrive as per the website, I need to have done both I guess or can I just root my note and directly flash the 1.7 GB with odin without having a custom recovery installed? Also, how is custom recovery different from root?
Hi guys,
A friend of mind got a So from china. Turns out it is rooted which he doesn't need and actually prevents him from using android pay.
So I am looking for an English version that is unlocked but not rooted android and as close as possible to original android as possible. No bells or whistle's.
Which version Is that? I have a hard time finding one.
Thanks so much for your help!!
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Oh ... 9500 is his version.
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Samsung stock rom. There are no pure android roms for the I9500.
The closets and probably only rom is official stock. Download odin v3.09 or newer then go to sammobile.com and look for you phone mobile in firmware menu they have the latest stock rom images, once you flash with odin it'll return you completely back to stock, recovery and rom. If you don't know how to flash with odin the Google it my friend:good:
Osmoso said:
The closets and probably only rom is official stock. Download odin v3.09 or newer then go to sammobile.com and look for you phone mobile in firmware menu they have the latest stock rom images, once you flash with odin it'll return you completely back to stock, recovery and rom. If you don't know how to flash with odin the Google it my friend:good:
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That sounds like a good plan. I did some flashing in the past, with my Note 2.
This is a friends phone (i9500).
However, on sammobile I cannot find anything that is for the US. Only a bunch of other countries. Which one would be the best to use for the US?
Thanks so much!!
esprit1st said:
That sounds like a good plan. I did some flashing in the past, with my Note 2.
This is a friends phone (i9500).
However, on sammobile I cannot find anything that is for the US. Only a bunch of other countries. Which one would be the best to use for the US?
Thanks so much!!
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That I cannot answer unfortunately, it seems to me there are no us version of the image. But I would recommend a rom called MBP v4, its very close to stock, but without those extra Samsung apps and unnecessary bloatware. Plus no knox If you see root apps such as SuperSU you can easily unroot in the settings of the app
I will check that out, thank you for your help!
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There is no USA stock rom for this phone as the phone was never released by Samsung or any carriers for sale in North America.
I HAVE SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 19500 ROOTED. CM12.I WANT MY OLD S4 camera FEATURES BACK. How can I get those feature back in my phone after rooting and installing CyanogenMod 12.1
[email protected] said:
I HAVE SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 19500 ROOTED. CM12.I WANT MY OLD S4 camera FEATURES BACK. How can I get those feature back in my phone after rooting and installing CyanogenMod 12.1
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By flashing back the stock rom.
Sir,Is there another way of getting it?
I don't want to flash back to stock ROM.
Like, Flashing a camera features zip file to phone .
[email protected] said:
Sir,Is there another way of getting it?
I don't want to flash back to stock ROM.
Like, Flashing a camera features zip file to phone .
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it's tied to the touchwiz framework so can only work on a touchwiz rom.
[email protected] said:
Sir,Is there another way of getting it?
I don't want to flash back to stock ROM.
Like, Flashing a camera features zip file to phone .
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Unfortunately there isn't.
Touchwiz apps don't work on custom roms like CM.