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[Q] Stock android [i9505]

Is it possible in someway to upgrade your Samsung Galaxy S4 software to vanilla 4.3 without using a custom recovery? If not, if I install stock 4.3 on i9505, will I be able to recieve OTAs that will come in the future?

badantii said:
Is it possible in someway to upgrade your Samsung Galaxy S4 software to vanilla 4.3 without using a custom recovery? If not, if I install stock 4.3 on i9505, will I be able to recieve OTAs that will come in the future?
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If you look here you'll find many ROMs that claim to deliver the "nexus" experience. I haven't found one that could be flashed via Odin, however. You can root your phone and create a full backup of your ROM, and then install CWM or any other recovery manager to flash the one of the nexus-experience ROMs. You can always go back to the Samsung ROMs if you don't like them.

badantii said:
Is it possible in someway to upgrade your Samsung Galaxy S4 software to vanilla 4.3 without using a custom recovery? If not, if I install stock 4.3 on i9505, will I be able to recieve OTAs that will come in the future?
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Sure,
This is the latest stock Google edition ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395030

Aerys said:
Sure,
This is the latest stock Google edition ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2395030
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Thanks. I found my answer in that thread. It is not safe to accept OTAs on i9505 because of the different bootloader/radio that i9505GE have.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2398217
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[Q] where to start? clockword recovery mod etc

Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick

seventje84 said:
Hi there guys,
I've been used to flashing android devices in the past (+2 years ago), but I don't have much experience with it nowadays.
first my current situation:
-I'm running MJ7 atm, rooted with kingo
i'm looking fo flash note's 3 4.4.2 kitkat rom, or omega rom, or cm11
If I understood correctly:
1) install a clockwork mod recovery for my 9005
> what "image" do I use for that? clockwork mod recovery doesn't have the note 3 9005 in it's list
2) install another rom through clockwork mod recover?
I've already tried looking for answers on this forum, but either they aren't for my specific device, or it doesn't explain the steps
Any suggestions guys?
The custom recovery is needed because... samsung's recovery is limited or something?
Trying to find answers to these questions!
In case I overlooked some topics, feel free to point me towards them!
Thanks in advance!
Nick
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OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.

radicalisto said:
OK, so before you flash you need to know that if you upgrade to 4.4.2 Official your bootloader upgrades and you cannot use CM nor can you go back to 4.3. SO you need to decide which you'd prefer to do.
As for recovery, yes you need a custom recovery to flash a custom mod. -- CWM by Chenglu is the only recovery that currently works on Kitkat 4.4.2.
TWRP/PhilZ/CWM work on 4.3 - so you can flash anything up until MK/ML*
CM11/OMEGA/CRASH/ALLIANCE etc all run on Mj7/MK2-3/ML2 currently so are compatible with your 4.3 build
Since you rooted via Kingo, is your KNOX preserved? because installing a custom recovery will void this.
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First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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1- Yup, once you get the new bootloader you can't downgrade, you can however flash ROMS which are created with this new bootloader, so far SweetROM, AndroidNow NG and(soon to be coming) AllianceROM are NA6 compatible.
2-CM was built on the old BL source, it'll probably eventually get updated to NA6 BL at some point, but for now it's based on MJ7 BL.
3/4- Yup if you are EU like myself, then KNOX warranty means nothing to us, I was just confirming you were aware of this
-- CWM has to be installed via ODIN, takes 20seconds to flash via PDA option in ODIN 1.85. CWM will be your main base recovery and you can install/wipe/mount etc as and when you need to.
*Side note, my advice, stick with your current bootloader and avoid the new kitkat bootloader, install CWM and flash in temasek's CM build and custom kernel. It's a fantastic build! just need to install the gAPPS to get Playstore and google apps etc - also Official Nightlies have been announced and are live by CM**
Any other queries just post away :good:

seventje84 said:
First of all, I want to thank you for the swift response!
So basically:
-once I flash original 4.4.2 I get a new bootloader and I cannot install a different rom except stock one atm?
-If I flash CM11/Omega etc it's no issue.. Any idea why though? CM11 is also 4.4.2 based.. but it doesn't come with new restrictive bootloader I suppose?
-I rooted through kingo, and during boot I don't see any special "text", so I suppose my knox is preserved
-about the "voiding", I found a piece of text in the european law here about rooting and voiding warranty that will help me if I ever needed that warranty
-Question about CMW recovery: If I install it from the play store, what kind of "recovery" do I need to install? is there a Database for that or some sort?
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Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
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Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe. Currently running Androidnow but after 1 day it seems that I have some forced reboots. Don't know where it comes from. I guess it's because I installed the rom from external sd.
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Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's

radicalisto said:
Did you dirty flash? - try another ROM, that may be a little buggy... However I suspect you didn't do a full wipe and that's the issue with the FC's
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I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
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Koumorisword said:
I did the Cwm based Phil "prepare for other rom" wipe. Manual wipe would be better you think?
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
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Nope, that wipe should be enough. Probably a buggy ROM. Try another and see if you have any issues.

Koumorisword said:
Where do we find that piece of law? Im just curious since I'm also knox 0x1 Hehe.
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You want to look for EU Directive 1999/44/CE
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu

KitKat and Knox warranty

Hi all,
I'm looking forward to the new kitkat version of Touchwiz, but I'm worried about knox warranty. If I were to flash a 4.4 ROM (and more specifically, a Touchwiz one), will this set off the flag? I currently do not have the Knox warranty as I got the s4 when it first came out but I'm worried if i download later versions of Touchwiz I'll somehow get the Knox security along with it and set it off.
If anyone could please clarify this it would be greatly appreciated
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2

Williamharv said:
Hi all,
I'm looking forward to the new kitkat version of Touchwiz, but I'm worried about knox warranty. If I were to flash a 4.4 ROM (and more specifically, a Touchwiz one), will this set off the flag? I currently do not have the Knox warranty as I got the s4 when it first came out but I'm worried if i download later versions of Touchwiz I'll somehow get the Knox security along with it and set it off.
If anyone could please clarify this it would be greatly appreciated
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
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Same question...
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If u upgrade ur android with 4.3 then with the update u ll get knox bootloader with it. If u r on 4.2.2 then u may install ur preferred custom rom (if it does not have knox included).
Sent from my OCTA CORE I9500

Williamharv said:
Hi all,
I'm looking forward to the new kitkat version of Touchwiz, but I'm worried about knox warranty. If I were to flash a 4.4 ROM (and more specifically, a Touchwiz one), will this set off the flag? I currently do not have the Knox warranty as I got the s4 when it first came out but I'm worried if i download later versions of Touchwiz I'll somehow get the Knox security along with it and set it off.
If anyone could please clarify this it would be greatly appreciated
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 2
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search xda,there are already many threads asking same thing...
though,I don't think that it will trip Knox,since u will be flashing a Samsung rom .... it trips when u flash older version or custom rom..
but its better to be safe than sorry...!!!
shivambajaj said:
Same question...
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Sent from my GT-I9500

Mandark52 said:
If u upgrade ur android with 4.3 then with the update u ll get knox bootloader with it. If u r on 4.2.2 then u may install ur preferred custom rom (if it does not have knox included).
Sent from my OCTA CORE I9500
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Ok so I got my galaxy when it was on 4.2.2, but I currently have Cynagenmod 11 (meaning I have 4.4.2 atm). I checked download mode and I have no knox bootloader, so does this mean im safe to download any 4.3/4.4 custom ROM as long as it doesnt state that it will create a knox bootloader?
For example, what if I were to download omega (the kitkat version) or a kitkat version of samsung's Touchwiz?

Williamharv said:
For example, what if I were to download omega (the kitkat version) or a kitkat version of samsung's Touchwiz?
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read his thread, it has all the info you need, or search the thread - your question has been aksed a million times already
(Hint, search is your friend, you could already have the answer if you looked for it yourself instead of waiting for someone on a forum to see your post and reply)

[INDEX] AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 3 All-In-One Resource Thread!

Welcome!
Welcome to the XDA Forums for the AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 3!
If you are new here, please take a minute to get yourself acquainted with the below information. I know it is a lot to read but you will be a more productive member of the forums for doing so!
The OP will cover the basics! You will find everything you need to learn to get the most out of your AT&T Galaxy Note 3 here!
The second post of this thread aims to provide current links for root methods, recovery options, stock firmwares, radios, themes & apps, mods, & misc. guides.
Got it? Good! Let’s get started!
Just a little housekeeping..!
The XDA Forums are a great place to learn more about your device and how to get the most out of it. Anyone who is willing to learn will be accepted here as long as you are polite!
Many of the forum's threads have multiple pages of information. You are not expected to know everything but if you are having an issue or you just have a question please try and use the "search" function before creating a new post/comment! Oftentimes, the information you are looking for has been covered multiple times. This helps to keep the discussion focused on development which is what XDA is all about!
If you have to ask a question or you just bricked your device (oops!)...try posting in the Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting subsection! Many people will be willing to help you out!
If you just want to chat...try posting in the General subsection...this is the place for general discussion, tips & tricks, etc!
What does “root” mean?
Android rooting is the process of allowing users of smartphones, tablets, and other devices running the Android operating system to attain privileged control (also known as "root access") within Android's sub-system.
Rooting is often performed with the goal of overcoming limitations that carriers and hardware manufacturers put on some devices, resulting in the ability to alter or replace system applications and settings, run specialized apps that require administrator-level permissions, or perform other operations that are otherwise inaccessible to a normal Android user.
On Android, rooting can also facilitate the complete removal and replacement of the device's operating system (“flashing” Custom ROMs) usually with a more recent or modified release of the devices factory operating system.
Root sounds awesome! How do I root my Note 3?
Towelroot by @geohot is here to save the day! Click here for step by step instructions & then go donate to @geohot so he keeps up his Android Development! CLICK HERE TO GET TOWELROOT!
What is Safestrap Recovery & what does it allow me to do?
After rooting, you will more than likely want to install Safestrap Recovery.
Created by @Hashcode, Safestrap Recovery is a custom version of TWRP/CWM Recovery that has been modified to run on bootloader locked devices like the AT&T Note 3.
Safestrap Recovery is essential if you’d like to flash Custom ROM’s or mod’s to your device. For more information on how to install, update, & use Safestrap please visit the original thread by using the link in the Links section below.
I was able to root my AT&T Note 3 & install Safestrap Recovery…how do I “flash” a Custom ROM or Mod?
The AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 3 ships with a locked bootloader which means that as of right now AT&T Note 3 users only have the ability to flash Custom ROM's & Mod’s using @Hashcode’s Safestrap recovery – KERNEL FLASHING is not possible!
Prerequisites
Root
Safestrap Recovery
Your favorite Custom ROM.zip
Step by step instructions on how to flash a Custom ROM on 4.3.X. Jelly Bean
Reboot your phone.
After rebooting you will see the Safestrap Recovery splash screen.
Select the “recovery” option from the Safestrap splash screen & enter the Safestrap Recovery menu.
Once in the menu choose the “wipe” option and FACTORY RESTORE your device if flashing a Custom ROM! If you are just installing a mod - wiping cache should suffice.
*NOTE! If you are experiencing an issue that no one else is reporting…chances are you did not wipe data/cache! While inconvenient, “clean flashing” is ALWAYS recommended!!!
On 4.3.X “ROM Slots” are supported in Safestrap (click here to read about ROM Slots!) so select which Slot you would like to flash your custom ROM to.
Once you have selected which ROM Slot you would like to flash to proceed to the “install” menu in Safestrap.
Navigate to the location of the ROM or Mod you would like to flash.
Follow on screen instructions to flash the ROM or Mod.
Optionally wipe cache upon successful flash!
Reboot.
Profit!
Step by step instructions on how to flash a Custom ROM on 4.4.X. KitKat
Safestrap has now been updated for KitKat! The procedure to flash a ROM on KitKat is the same as flashing a ROM on Jelly Bean so follow the steps above! *Note: ROM Slots are currently a work in progress so you will have to flash KitKat ROMs to your stock slot. While inconvenient this is really no different from TWRP/CWM.
Now that I know how to flash a Custom ROM – what types of ROMs are compatible?
Because of the locked bootloader on the AT&T Note 3, only Samsung TouchWiz based Custom ROM’s are able to be flashed to the AT&T Note 3. These ROMs can be found under the Android Development subheading of the AT&T Note 3 XDA Forums.
Custom ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) such as CyanogenMOD, Paranoid Android, Omni, etc cannot be flashed. This is due to the inability to flash custom kernels using Safestrap Recovery.
I am ready to update from Jelly Bean to KitKat! How do I do this safely?
This guide should contain everything you need to know! CLICK HERE!
Ohhh noooo...I think I just bricked my Note 3! Fix it for me...please!
Don't worry!
If you can get into Download Mode (& you probably can) you can get it fixed thanks to @evilpotatoman's awesome MJ5 restore method!!! It may seem intimidating at first but as long as you read the instructions, read them again, and then follow the instructions exactly your Note 3 will be back to new! If you have any problems..just ask in the Q&A thread...there are many members willing to help you!
Ready to fix your "bricked" AT&T Note 3 - CLICK HERE!
What is Samsung KNOX & do I need to worry about it?
Samsung KNOX is an enterprise security platform that separates your personal information from your business or corporate information. Samsung KNOX is part of Samsung's "Samsung for Enterprise" (SAFE) offerings for smartphones and tablets.
TLDR; Your IT Department likes Knox but there isn’t really a reason for you to like Knox. Most Custom ROM’s have already removed Knox for you so it’s not something that you need to be worried about unless you are running factory stock.
What does it mean when other members ask if something will “trip Knox”?
One of the “features” of Knox is the “Knox Warranty” counter. This counter will trip if you try and tamper with the system beyond Root/Safestrap/Flashing Roms & mods/etc.
By tripping this counter it allows Samsung to deny warranty claims for bricked devices….that’s pretty much it.
How can I tell if I have tripped the Knox Flag?
You can check your Knox Flag Counter by booting into Download Mode (with device off – hold Power + Vol Down + Home).
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0 - you have not tripped Knox...you're doing great!
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x1 - you HAVE tripped Knox...commence the freak out!
THIS THREAD IS A WORK IN PROGRESS!!!
I will continue to update & format as we go! If you see anything that is incorrect or you think you can improve upon drop me a PM!

Essential Links for the AT&T Galaxy Note 3!
Root Methods
[ROOT] Kingo Root
[12/29] Restore for MJ5 --Doesn't trip Knox and optionally provides root
Recovery Options
[RECOVERY LOCKED] Safestrap Recovery v3.71 / v3.72 [2014-04-01 KK Beta]
Custom ROMs
Jelly Bean Custom ROMs
[ROM]**~AllianceROM v5 ~** 04.02.14 The Most Customizeable Android ROM in Existence!
[ROM] AzureROM Six Clean Edition (CE) & Stock Edition (SE) [3-29-14] [MJ5 Base] [STABLE | CLEAN | FAST | TWEAKED]
[ROM][MJ5]Dynamic Rom 4.2 Note 3 Google Play Edition [3/3/2014]
[ROM] FireNote Mj5 Deodex V6/V6X
[ROM][JAN 26][4.3][MJ5] Hyperdrive RLS6 ¯`•._ Hyperdrive Tweaks 2.0║Hyperdrive PIE, OTA, HUB, File Manager║On-The-Fly Theming║Unmatched║
ROM][INCURSOR V1.0][International ML2][12-26-13]
[ROM][TMO UVUBMI7][AROMA-ish]TweakedN3 2.X
KitKat Custom ROMs
[ROM][NC2][4.4.2] Dynamic Kat 1.3 [Google Play Edition][4/13/2014]
[ROM][4.4.2][NC2] Internazionale | Inter,Stock,Root,Clean [9.4.14]
[ROM] PureNOTE CE [4/13/14] [KitKat] [MLG Base] [ stable | clean | fast | tweaked ]
[Rom][New Version] The S5 Experience V1.5 [4.4.2] [Galaxy S5 Themes & Apps] [4-14-14]
[ROM][FEB 10][UrDroid][STOCK][AT&T KITKAT ][ODEXED][Deodexed][W/ROOT]
Stock Firmwares
Jelly Bean
Coming soon!
KitKat
KitKat 4.4.2 NC2 (thanks @jbond23!!!)
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95784891001615211
https://mega.nz/#!lU1TTRTZ!pDYX7qtik...I78nCPKDrJoMFY(mirror 1)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/vw...l_Odin_Tar.rar(mirror 2)
Radios
ALL AT&T and TMo N3 Modems - Odin & Recovery Flashable
Themes & Apps
Coming soon!
Mod's
[Flashable-Script] AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Debloater
[Script] Light Debloat
[MOD] Architect_Edition : * Set your kernel without application * and more *[SCRIPTS]
Guides, Tutorials, Misc.
[GUIDE] Making The Jump From Jelly Bean to KitKat On The AT&T Note 3!
[ROM][4/1][AT&T][NC2_Bootloader][ N900AUCECMGL KITKAT][Stuck Download-Mode FIX]
[BOUNTY] KK Root/Unlocked bootloader (workaround or full unlock)
[Guide] Tmobile N3 on AT&T's Network the Unofficial Developer Edition, CM11/KitKat
[3/31] Fix for KitKat Update Failing - Without ROOTING
How to go back to JellyBean from KitKat with working SafeStrap+Root (Not official KK)
Off-topic, other device, comparisons to other devices, and upgrading phone discussion
Official - the 4.4.2 update - discussion thread
SS Restore Files Stock Rooted Mj5

Attention Devs/Users Wanting to Post Work In All-In-One Thread
If you have something you would like me to include that you do not see in the posts above please send me a PM so I can get it added! Anything will be accepted as long as it is beneficial to the community!
Thanks for your help everyone!

Cool dude, I really like the stock section although it's coming soon lol. Maybe you can link Walter whites modem files in there under radios. He has them all.
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That's the plan! OP should be done by lunch today....lots of info to get in these posts. Sorry for the delay!
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First of all, thanks for this thread. It is very helpful.
Second, I don't understand something. How would I load Safestrap once I update to Kit Kat if there is not root option for Kit Kat yet? Don't I have to be rooted to load Safestrap? The only thing I can think of is that I would have to side load the Kit Kat update and root that.

tvan0 said:
First of all, thanks for this thread. It is very helpful.
Second, I don't understand something. How would I load Safestrap once I update to Kit Kat if there is not root option for Kit Kat yet? Don't I have to be rooted to load Safestrap? The only thing I can think of is that I would have to side load the Kit Kat update and root that.
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Thanks for commenting. You say "once I update to Kit Kat" so I assume you are still on Jelly Bean. If you are still on Jelly Bean and have root & Safestrap installed it is easy to make the leap from rooted Jelly Bean to rooted Kit Kat. The only way you cannot get rooted Kit Kat is if your phone shipped with it stock (you purchased it very recently). I need to ask permission from a member to post his method of going from Jelly Bean to Kit Kat. If you are still on Jelly Bean hang tight for a few hours until I can get the OP updated with the instructions.
EDIT:
The OP has been updated with instructions on how to upgrade from Jelly Bean to KitKat.

tropazr said:
Thanks for commenting. You say "once I update to Kit Kat" so I assume you are still on Jelly Bean. If you are still on Jelly Bean and have root & Safestrap installed it is easy to make the leap from rooted Jelly Bean to rooted Kit Kat. The only way you cannot get rooted Kit Kat is if your phone shipped with it stock (you purchased it very recently). I need to ask permission from a member to post his method of going from Jelly Bean to Kit Kat. If you are still on Jelly Bean hang tight for a few hours until I can get the OP updated with the instructions.
EDIT:
The OP has been updated with instructions on how to upgrade from Jelly Bean to KitKat.
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Ok. I knew that was a possibility, but I was missing a step or two. Yes, I am still on stock Jelly Bean, rooted but no Safestrap yet. Thanks a lot for your help and for adding the extra info to the OP. It really helped clear things up. The appropriate Thanks buttons will be hit.

Stock KitKat
Any idea where I can find stock kitkat to use with odin? Thx

What a sexy thread, thank you!

kevinniven said:
Any idea where I can find stock kitkat to use with odin? Thx
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That is why I use UrDroid with this l...it is a rooted stock deKnoxed rom.
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tropazr said:
Welcome!
Welcome to the XDA Forums for the AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 3!
If you are new here, please take a minute to get yourself acquainted with the below information. I know it is a lot to read but you will be a more productive member of the forums for doing so!
The OP will cover the basics! You will find everything you need to learn to get the most out of your AT&T Galaxy Note 3 here!
The second post of this thread aims to provide current links for root methods, recovery options, stock firmwares, radios, themes & apps, mods, & misc. guides.
Got it? Good! Let’s get started!
Just a little housekeeping..!
The XDA Forums are a great place to learn more about your device and how to get the most out of it. Anyone who is willing to learn will be accepted here as long as you are polite!
Many of the forum's threads have multiple pages of information. You are not expected to know everything but if you are having an issue or you just have a question please try and use the "search" function before creating a new post/comment! Oftentimes, the information you are looking for has been covered multiple times. This helps to keep the discussion focused on development which is what XDA is all about!
If you have to ask a question or you just bricked your device (oops!)...try posting in the Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting subsection! Many people will be willing to help you out!
If you just want to chat...try posting in the General subsection...this is the place for general discussion, tips & tricks, etc!
What does “root” mean?
Android rooting is the process of allowing users of smartphones, tablets, and other devices running the Android operating system to attain privileged control (also known as "root access") within Android's sub-system.
Rooting is often performed with the goal of overcoming limitations that carriers and hardware manufacturers put on some devices, resulting in the ability to alter or replace system applications and settings, run specialized apps that require administrator-level permissions, or perform other operations that are otherwise inaccessible to a normal Android user.
On Android, rooting can also facilitate the complete removal and replacement of the device's operating system (“flashing” Custom ROMs) usually with a more recent or modified release of the devices factory operating system.
This sounds awesome! I want to root my AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 3. Where do I start?
Rooting the AT&T Note 3 on Jelly Bean (4.3.X)
One of the quickest & easiest ways to root is by using the Kingo Root app. Kingo is considered a safe option for obtaining root. You can find a link to the original thread in the Links section below
Another way to root is to use @evilpotatoman’s method. It is a little more in depth and complicated than other options but it works! You can find a link to the original thread in the Links section below!
Rooting the AT&T Note 3 on KitKat (4.4.X)
If you purchased your Note 3 and it shipped with KitKat there is currently no root method. This thread will be updated if a root method is discovered!
What is Safestrap Recovery & what does it allow me to do?
After rooting, you will more than likely want to install Safestrap Recovery.
Created by @Hashcode, Safestrap Recovery is a custom version of TWRP/CWM Recovery that has been modified to run on bootloader locked devices like the AT&T Note 3.
Safestrap Recovery is essential if you’d like to flash Custom ROM’s or mod’s to your device. For more information on how to install, update, & use Safestrap please visit the original thread by using the link in the Links section below.
I was able to root my AT&T Note 3 & install Safestrap Recovery…how do I “flash” a Custom ROM or Mod?
The AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 3 ships with a locked bootloader which means that as of right now AT&T Note 3 users only have the ability to flash Custom ROM's & Mod’s using @Hashcode’s Safestrap recovery – KERNEL FLASHING is not possible!
Prerequisites
Root
Safestrap Recovery
Your favorite Custom ROM.zip
Step by step instructions on how to flash a Custom ROM on 4.3.X. Jelly Bean
Reboot your phone.
After rebooting you will see the Safestrap Recovery splash screen.
Select the “recovery” option from the Safestrap splash screen & enter the Safestrap Recovery menu.
Once in the menu choose the “wipe” option and FACTORY RESTORE your device if flashing a Custom ROM! If you are just installing a mod - wiping cache should suffice.
*NOTE! If you are experiencing an issue that no one else is reporting…chances are you did not wipe data/cache! While inconvenient, “clean flashing” is ALWAYS recommended!!!
On 4.3.X “ROM Slots” are supported in Safestrap (click here to read about ROM Slots!) so select which Slot you would like to flash your custom ROM to.
Once you have selected which ROM Slot you would like to flash to proceed to the “install” menu in Safestrap.
Navigate to the location of the ROM or Mod you would like to flash.
Follow on screen instructions to flash the ROM or Mod.
Optionally wipe cache upon successful flash!
Reboot.
Profit!
Step by step instructions on how to flash a Custom ROM on 4.4.X. KitKat
Safestrap has now been updated for KitKat! The procedure to flash a ROM on KitKat is the same as flashing a ROM on Jelly Bean so follow the steps above! *Note: ROM Slots are currently a work in progress so you will have to flash KitKat ROMs to your stock slot. While inconvenient this is really no different from TWRP/CWM.
Now that I know how to flash a Custom ROM – what types of ROMs are compatible?
Because of the locked bootloader on the AT&T Note 3, only Samsung TouchWiz based Custom ROM’s are able to be flashed to the AT&T Note 3. These ROMs can be found under the Android Development subheading of the AT&T Note 3 XDA Forums.
Custom ROMs based on the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) such as CyanogenMOD, Paranoid Android, Omni, etc cannot be flashed. This is due to the inability to flash custom kernels using Safestrap Recovery.
I am ready to update from Jelly Bean to KitKat! How do I do this safely?
This guide should contain everything you need to know! CLICK HERE!
Ohhh noooo...I think I just bricked my Note 3! Fix it for me...please!
Don't worry!
If you can get into Download Mode (& you probably can) you can get it fixed thanks to @evilpotatoman's awesome MJ5 restore method!!! It may seem intimidating at first but as long as you read the instructions, read them again, and then follow the instructions exactly your Note 3 will be back to new! If you have any problems..just ask in the Q&A thread...there are many members willing to help you!
Ready to fix your "bricked" AT&T Note 3 - CLICK HERE!
What is Samsung KNOX & do I need to worry about it?
Samsung KNOX is an enterprise security platform that separates your personal information from your business or corporate information. Samsung KNOX is part of Samsung's "Samsung for Enterprise" (SAFE) offerings for smartphones and tablets.
TLDR; Your IT Department likes Knox but there isn’t really a reason for you to like Knox. Most Custom ROM’s have already removed Knox for you so it’s not something that you need to be worried about unless you are running factory stock.
What does it mean when other members ask if something will “trip Knox”?
One of the “features” of Knox is the “Knox Warranty” counter. This counter will trip if you try and tamper with the system beyond Root/Safestrap/Flashing Roms & mods/etc.
By tripping this counter it allows Samsung to deny warranty claims for bricked devices….that’s pretty much it.
How can I tell if I have tripped the Knox Flag?
You can check your Knox Flag Counter by booting into Download Mode (with device off – hold Power + Vol Down + Home).
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x0 - you have not tripped Knox...you're doing great!
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x1 - you HAVE tripped Knox...commence the freak out!
THIS THREAD IS A WORK IN PROGRESS!!!
I will continue to update & format as we go! If you see anything that is incorrect or you think you can improve upon drop me a PM!
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One more link woyld be so beneficial. How to go back to jelly bean from kitkat with working safetrap.
Thanks
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OK, I see the rooting method for Jellybean, and that phones purchased with Kit Kat pre-installed are currently unable to be rooted. What about a phone purchased with Jellybean that auto updated itself to Kit Kat. Am I now in the currently not rootable camp due to the update?
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Ranulf WolfSage said:
OK, I see the rooting method for Jellybean, and that phones purchased with Kit Kat pre-installed are currently unable to be rooted. What about a phone purchased with Jellybean that auto updated itself to Kit Kat. Am I now in the currently not rootable camp due to the update?
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Unfortunately, if you did not flash to KitKat via Odin (you took the OTA) then you are currently unable to root.

hey man looking good i like the all in one i cant think of anything to add at the moment but if i run across anything ill let you know this will save time trying to find that one certain thing someone needs

tropazr said:
Unfortunately, if you did not flash to KitKat via Odin (you took the OTA) then you are currently unable to root.
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Thanks for the quick reply man, I just wish it were better news. I guess I can hold out hope that the devs find a hole in Kit Kat eventually as well.
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Ranulf WolfSage said:
Thanks for the quick reply man, I just wish it were better news. I guess I can hold out hope that the devs find a hole in Kit Kat eventually as well.
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This thread helped me out a lot. Thank

I will just go ahead and assume that a downgrade to jellybean is also not an option for us.
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mattitude said:
I will just go ahead and assume that a downgrade to jellybean is also not an option for us.
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unfortunately your assumption is correct, no downgrades from the official bootloaders.

safe to flash mj5 based rom on nb4
posersk8r said:
unfortunately your assumption is correct, no downgrades from the official bootloaders.
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From what I've read I can't find a direct answer.
I have the NB4 4.3 rom stock rooted and with safestrap fully installed. Wanting to flash Firenote to stock rom slot but I dunno if it's safe to flash an MJ5 rom to a NB4 base. Help is appreciated! Cheers!

Root my note

Hi,
I am not a programmer / developer but just wanted some expert opinion on how to root and what are the advantages. I have now ended my warranty so please can someone let me know:-
1. How to root safely without messing up KNOX
2. Can I bring the device to the same state if something goes wrong while rooting
3. Is there any substitute for firmware updates
Thanks,
Subbu

Rooting trips knox. You can try Towelroot, probably won't work. Flashing recovery will allow you to flash superuser/obtain root, or just flash a new Rom that's pre rooted.
Any samsung device can be Odined back to stock if needed, just not knox.
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What version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014) do you have? Towelroot won't work with the p600 or the p601. Also it is better to use Obin then a one click root. Read through this topic it explains the whole process.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805
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Towel root works for P605 up to latest software update as in the link below. The trick is to downgrade the boot.img using odin to a lower firmware e.g. NF2, root with towel root and then upgrade boot.img back to current firmware version. It keeps Knox 0x0. Try and keep your Knox 0x0 status in case it becomes important to you. Flashing custom recovery and kernels will trip knox, and using other rooting methods is likely to trip it also.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10-2014/general/p605xxucnj1-firmware-update-t2936219
Good luck.

Thanks for all your responses.
I am looking at orion's website and clear how to root now. Please can someone clarify these for me :-
1. We can root the note but need to remove KNOX (after rooting) as it will not work properly for rooted devices?
2. Is it possible to get the note to the current state if something goes wrong during rooting. If yes, how can we do this?
3. Is it possible to install latest firmwares either from dev community or official Samsung? If it's from the DEV community, then wil it be a simple task of updating firmwares like how we do for official Samsung or do we have to start the process of rooting / stock recovery etc. again?

subram said:
Thanks for all your responses.
I am looking at orion's website and clear how to root now. Please can someone clarify these for me :-
1. We can root the note but need to remove KNOX (after rooting) as it will not work properly for rooted devices?
2. Is it possible to get the note to the current state if something goes wrong during rooting. If yes, how can we do this?
3. Is it possible to install latest firmwares either from dev community or official Samsung? If it's from the DEV community, then wil it be a simple task of updating firmwares like how we do for official Samsung or do we have to start the process of rooting / stock recovery etc. again?
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1. You are correct KNOX will not work and will give annoying and intrusive notification about your tablet being modified. But that is a small price to pay. Your warranty will be invalid after rooting, also a gift from KNOX, and it cannot be reset back to valid.
2. Yes, it is possible to reflash stock through Obin by downloading the firmware from Sammobile.com, not sure if I have the web address right, and flashing it like you do CF-Autoroot and twrp.
3. You cannot take ota updates because it will see the custom recovery and say your system has been modified. Again you can flash official updates from Samsung by using obin and Sammobile or for faster updates use a custom ROM which is actually probably better, but it depends on what you use your tablet for. If you want I can link you to some custom Roms that are stock based or CM based.
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Many thanks Orion. I have SM-P600. Basically, I want to root because I want to remove the official software and other bloatware.
1. Clear
2. By reflashing the stock, you mean setting the note 10.1 2014 to it's original state but through the 'odin-flash method'? So, if I do this, then will I be back to normal (including KNOX) and be able to download firmware updates? How do I do it through
3. What is the difference between sammobile formware and custom ROM?
Two more questions
1. Is it possible to download android 4.4.4 / Android L and install it in my device now than waiting for Samsung to officially release it?
2. Will it be possible to root, remove the unwanted software and then unroot to come back to normal again?

subram said:
2. By reflashing the stock, you mean setting the note 10.1 2014 to it's original state but through the 'odin-flash method'? So, if I do this, then will I be back to normal (including KNOX) and be able to download firmware updates? How do I do it through
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Not quite. Reflashing the stock ROM via Odin will return your device's software configuration to the way it was out of the box. No custom recovery, no root, etc. However, nothing can reset the KNOX counter. Once tripped, it's tripped for good. Reflashing a stock ROM will not allow you to receive OTA updates, you will have to download updates (from SamMobile or another site) and flash via Odin, or use Kies to update. Updating the firmware on your device through either method will cause you to lose root and custom recovery, but you may be able to re-root and reflash custom recovery.
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3. What is the difference between sammobile formware and custom ROM?
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SamMobile only hosts Samsung official stock firmwares for devices.
And yes, you should be able to root, uninstall unwanted system apps, and then unroot. But again, you will be unable to accept OTA updates.

Understood about the fact that if I root, then I should forget about KNOX once and for all.
- Ok, how do I unroot? Is that straightforward.
- If sammobile releases a firmware update for SM-P600 (let's say android 4.4.4 for US), can I install that via KIES (without root) though I am in the UK?
- If I root, I can then install android L as soon as it is available in the DEV community?

subram said:
Understood about the fact that if I root, then I should forget about KNOX once and for all.
- Ok, how do I unroot? Is that straightforward.
- If sammobile releases a firmware update for SM-P600 (let's say android 4.4.4 for US), can I install that via KIES (without root) though I am in the UK?
- If I root, I can then install android L as soon as it is available in the DEV community?
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1. Yes I have never had to unroot any Samsung device but as far as I know it is just that simple.
2. As long as it is for the p600 then yes it is compatible you should be able to flash without root through Obin.
3. This is a developer to watch this is a CM based rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2938652.
This is a TouchWiz based ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793898. They will be updated quicker then Samsung firmware. Here is a complete list of Roms available for our devices. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2723420
Edit: Forgot another useful post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2878586
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siralsmooth said:
Rooting trips knox. You can try Towelroot, probably won't work. Flashing recovery will allow you to flash superuser/obtain root, or just flash a new Rom that's pre rooted.
Any samsung device can be Odined back to stock if needed, just not knox.
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Speaking of which, how does one go about restoring the P600 back to stock? I'm starting to miss some of the S Pen functionality.

Download the stock firmware and flash via Odin with the tablet in download mode. Backup anything important first.
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Chainfire includes an unroot in his SuperSU app, which means you can just root to remove stuff the use the unroot function and then you have stock. There also Roms available that are just debloated stock without root installed. You have to root first to install.
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So, if we root to remove stuff and unroot through SuperSU app, will KNOX mess up again? To be honest, this is all what I want to do.
Another question, if we root, how can we get android L - the same method as odin flash?

1. No knox won't come back if you use the unroot function it just removes root.
2. Yes, obin flash when Samsung release, or install a custom ROM which then you get Lollipop faster.
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I looked at the website for custom ROM. It says I need to have a 'custom recovery' installed and be rooted as well. What do you mean by custom recovery and what should I do to install it?

subram said:
I looked at the website for custom ROM. It says I need to have a 'custom recovery' installed and be rooted as well. What do you mean by custom recovery and what should I do to install it?
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You need to first flash this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2490805 through Obin. Then make sure you have root. Then from the play store download flashify. Once you have flashify open it grant it root access and it should say something about a custom recover chose twrp. Flashify will take you to twrp download 2.6.3 not 2.8.1. Then enjoy your custom ROM.
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Thanks Orion. Clear on the process but what is custom ROM and why would I need it?

subram said:
Thanks Orion. Clear on the process but what is custom ROM and why would I need it?
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You don't necessarily need a custom rom(can be called custom OS to) but they are updated faster then stock TouchWiz and they run twice as fast because they are slimmed down. Plus you have control of everything. Some people just want want a more pure android experience but with more customization. TouchWiz is a custom ROM of android because it has features pure android doesn't have a.k.a. multi-window and quick settings with KitKat.
Like I said you don't need a custom ROM but it is a lot more fun to play then rooted TouchWiz. I am linking two custom Roms one is TouchWiz based so it has all of Samsung's features. The other is CM which doesn't have any of the cool features of Samsungs TouchWiz. TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793898. CM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2936863. There are a ton of different options. My a back up with twrp save it to your SD card and enjoy being rooted.
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Thanks for answering my questions patiently Orion. Ok, so if I follow the steps mentioned in http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2793898, then
1. Will I have Samsung touchwiz ROM and also get all the features mentioned there including notePRO?
2. Will I have multi-window and s-pen features retained?
3. Is the above website free to download?
4. Is it possible to just get the notePRO features after rooting my SM-P600 instead of getting everything from the above website
5. It looks like there is a 1.7 GB file that I need to download in my local PC before I flash it with odin?
6. There is a mention in the above website that we need to be rooted and also have custom ROM installed so If I have to install hyperdrive as per the website, I need to have done both I guess or can I just root my note and directly flash the 1.7 GB with odin without having a custom recovery installed? Also, how is custom recovery different from root?