I have a question, I had nexus 6p once, and it does get in bootloop and die without solutions.
Now i'm about to buy another, and Im afraid do get this issue again.
i dont wanna lose money again.
I've had two. One got the red light of death. The other is still ok.
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My Nexus 6P is still working fine, no bootloop of death or early shutdowns, bought it in November 2015.
Harry Pothead said:
My Nexus 6P is still working fine, no bootloop of death or early shutdowns, bought it in November 2015.
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have some possibility to prevent or predict what nexus will get this problem?
I recently bought a used 6P. It was manufactured in Nov 2015, and judging by the battery degradation (shutdown at 10-20%, SOC was about 2-3 hours at best, it would heat up quite a lot under normal usage, etc) I can guess that that the phone was used quite a lot, so heavy usage will probably not result in bootloop of death. After changing the battery, things got A LOT better - barely warm even when running Asphalt 9, SOT is about 4-5 hours and no more dying at 15%.
My guess would be that the battery has nothing to do with bootloop, as many people seem to believe.
An interesting thing that I noticed is that the 4 Cortex-A57 processors that are supposed to run at 2 GHz are actually running at ~1.56 GHz, while the other 4 A53s are running at 1.55 GHz, like they're supposed to. In order to fix a bootloop'd 6P you have to disable these 4 big processors so... ??? My theory is that this big cluster is causing the bootloop, and to *prevent* this bootloop you would have to underclock them to max 1.6 GHz.
Now, the big mistery is WHY is my phone underclocked, I'm pretty sure the previous owner didn't do it, as the phone is not even rooted.
If you buy a used one, I'd strongly recommend a new battery. It's easy to do yourself, just pay attention to the instructions. I recommend ifixit's batt.
Otherwise, just stay away. If you do buy, just install a kernel that will let you run the big core at 1.5, that way you get no shutdowns
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I recently bought a used 6P. It was manufactured in Nov 2015, and judging by the battery degradation (shutdown at 10-20%, SOC was about 2-3 hours at best, it would heat up quite a lot under normal usage, etc) I can guess that that the phone was used quite a lot, so heavy usage will probably not result in bootloop of death. After changing the battery, things got A LOT better - barely warm even when running Asphalt 9, SOT is about 4-5 hours and no more dying at 15%.
My guess would be that the battery has nothing to do with bootloop, as many people seem to believe.
An interesting thing that I noticed is that the 4 Cortex-A57 processors that are supposed to run at 2 GHz are actually running at ~1.56 GHz, while the other 4 A53s are running at 1.55 GHz, like they're supposed to. In order to fix a bootloop'd 6P you have to disable these 4 big processors so... [emoji848][emoji848][emoji848] My theory is that this big cluster is causing the bootloop, and to *prevent* this bootloop you would have to underclock them to max 1.6 GHz.
Now, the big mistery is WHY is my phone underclocked, I'm pretty sure the previous owner didn't do it, as the phone is not even rooted.
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What are you using to measure the CPU frequencies? Just because it's not that speed when you look at it doesn't mean it's not running at that speed. Are you using an app that's keeping a log of what speeds are in use?
The max speed will be listed at what it can currently go to. It will be all over the map and is not a good indicator of what to look for.
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skullzhunter said:
I recently bought a used 6P. It was manufactured in Nov 2015, and judging by the battery degradation (shutdown at 10-20%, SOC was about 2-3 hours at best, it would heat up quite a lot under normal usage, etc) I can guess that that the phone was used quite a lot, so heavy usage will probably not result in bootloop of death. After changing the battery, things got A LOT better - barely warm even when running Asphalt 9, SOT is about 4-5 hours and no more dying at 15%.
My guess would be that the battery has nothing to do with bootloop, as many people seem to believe.
An interesting thing that I noticed is that the 4 Cortex-A57 processors that are supposed to run at 2 GHz are actually running at ~1.56 GHz, while the other 4 A53s are running at 1.55 GHz, like they're supposed to. In order to fix a bootloop'd 6P you have to disable these 4 big processors so... ??? My theory is that this big cluster is causing the bootloop, and to *prevent* this bootloop you would have to underclock them to max 1.6 GHz.
Now, the big mistery is WHY is my phone underclocked, I'm pretty sure the previous owner didn't do it, as the phone is not even rooted.
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Basically, since the 4 cores fix is mostly temporary and most nexus 6p still die soon or late after this fix, I don't think it is the issue... For me bad soldering, as the bad soldering that caused lots of lg phones in this period, including the nexus 5x, to die of bootloop is the issue of our nexus 6p.
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I know many people have been saying the low benchmark scores on the Nexus 4 are due to "thermal throttling" but I don't really believe this. It's supposedly based on the optimus g, and if that doesn't suffer from this thermal throttling issue, then why would the Nexus 4? I personally believe it's just due to the software. People are also saying that an update won't boost the performance by that much, but I'm not sure what to believe.
So do you guys really believe that the nexus 4 is over-heating and under-clocking itself, or do you believe it is just in need of an update?
It may be a faulty unit from that reviewer, I only recall one review saying it overheated. The software is also to blame. I made a post in another thread about the performance with these pre-release software versions the reviewers have.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33634026#post33634026
Unfinalized software on all these review devices is probably the bottleneck. Not to mention benchmarks have zero bearing on anything ever.
And Testing units and software do have a tendency to carry heavy logcats and monitoring software... I remember from the ICS days how "heavy" most leaks would run progressively getting better by the update ...
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Unfinalized software on all these review devices is probably the bottleneck. Not to mention benchmarks have zero bearing on anything ever.
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Whilst benchmarks shouldn't matter too much, when this beastly specced phone is getting worse scores than the msm8960 with adreno 225, then it will obviously raise some concerns.
E3SEL said:
I know many people have been saying the low benchmark scores on the Nexus 4 are due to "thermal throttling" but I don't really believe this. It's supposedly based on the optimus g, and if that doesn't suffer from this thermal throttling issue, then why would the Nexus 4? I personally believe it's just due to the software. People are also saying that an update won't boost the performance by that much, but I know if I wrote the drivers for the phone, it wouldn't even start.
Do you guys really believe that the nexus 4 is over-heating and under-clocking itself, or do you believe it is just in need of an update? Also, another thing I wonder is this: is it called the nexus 4 because it has a 4" (4.7", I know) display, or is it called a nexus 4, because it is the fourth nexus?
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I wouldn't say I'm good or experienced enough with Android smartphones to decide whether or not it's due to software, but I sure hope it is. I'm really only judging this particular issue by what everyone else is saying.
In regards to the sceen size and "Nexus 4" theory, I agree. Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 are a good example of device names in correlation with screen sizes here.
just wondering why did google name their nexus phone 10 wbefore the fourth one
I think it all came from a comment at Anandtech, they attempted to run all the GLBenchmark tests one after another, most web sites just chose 1 or 2 tests, usually Egypt HD. Most devices crash when trying to run all GLBenchmark test serially, it does on my Nexus 7, something to to do with running out of memory allocation.
Nexus 4 in a kind of suicidally awesome way completes the entire GLBenchmark suite in one go, but running all those test including offscreen & onscreen is a long brutal test, maxing out the SoC in a way no game is likely to do, so the fact that the device is thermal regulating itself is not that strange.
If Anandtech tested individual elements of GLBenchmark, as most other review sites do, this issue would not have occurred. In fact they admitted that the Optimus G could not run all tests consecutively, so they only tested individual elements, hence no the device didn't get downclcoked due to thermal limits. It is not good that Anandtech has this disparity in testing methodology, I like the website a lot, but some thing recently have led me to question a few things, but that is another story.
Every phone overheats nowadays so there's nothing different with the n4.
This is pretty interesting
Benchmark comparison. Once at room temp, once in freezer. Freezer scores are significantly better
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/...es-show-the-real-power-of-the-s4-pro-soc.html
So yeah... Kinda does look like pretty bad thermal issues Hopefully just cause it was pre-release or something
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If Anandtech tested individual elements of GLBenchmark, as most other review sites do, this issue would not have occurred. In fact they admitted that the Optimus G could not run all tests consecutively, so they only tested individual elements, hence no the device didn't get downclcoked due to thermal limits. It is not good that Anandtech has this disparity in testing methodology, I like the website a lot, but some thing recently have led me to question a few things, but that is another story.
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But they singled out the Optimus G, because it was unable to complete more complex tests because of crashes.
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This is pretty interesting
Benchmark comparison. Once at room temp, once in freezer. Freezer scores are significantly better
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/...es-show-the-real-power-of-the-s4-pro-soc.html
So yeah... Kinda does look like pretty bad thermal issues Hopefully just cause it was pre-release or something
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Wow, that is a very interesting find. I was actually thinking that someone should do a freezer test just see if it is overheating. This article would seem to prove that it is. Those retests show dramatically higher scores, more on par with what the S4 processor should be capable of.
They said that perhaps the retail versions will have a higher tolerance for heat because they did not think they felt that hot. More testing and info is needed though.
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They said that perhaps the retail versions will have a higher tolerance for heat because they did not think they felt that hot. More testing and info is needed though.
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To elaborate, straight from the source, in the Anandtech podcast this morning Brian commented that the phone seemed to be set to throttle at 60 degrees (for the dual-krait S4 at least it's usually around 80 afaik) and at that point the exterior of the phone was much cooler than a lot of other phones. (He talks about it at about 00:51:00.)
Something to think about.
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To elaborate, straight from the source, in the Anandtech podcast this morning Brian commented that the phone seemed to be set to throttle at 60 degrees (for the dual-krait S4 at least it's usually around 80 afaik) and at that point the exterior of the phone was much cooler than a lot of other phones. (He talks about it at about 00:51:00.)
Something to think about.
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That means it's a simple tweak, and so as long as people aren't noticing excessive heat (which we would have heard from reviews) on the phone itself then is sounds like things will be fine for the release.
Yes IT FREAKING OVERHEATS
E3SEL said:
I know many people have been saying the low benchmark scores on the Nexus 4 are due to "thermal throttling" but I don't really believe this. It's supposedly based on the optimus g, and if that doesn't suffer from this thermal throttling issue, then why would the Nexus 4? I personally believe it's just due to the software. People are also saying that an update won't boost the performance by that much, but I know if I wrote the drivers for the phone, it wouldn't even start.
Do you guys really believe that the nexus 4 is over-heating and under-clocking itself, or do you believe it is just in need of an update? Also, another thing I wonder is this: is it called the nexus 4 because it has a 4" (4.7", I know) display, or is it called a nexus 4, because it is the fourth nexus?
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I've had the phone for five days now and it definitely overheats. The last time it overheated was this morning. I got up, looked at the phone and unplugged it from the charger. Went to attend to my toddler for 20 mins and came back and saw that the phone was very warm and battery life was hit 20 percent. I did a check on battery usage under 'battery' in settings and saw that the playstore app had sucked 50% of the power of late. This is HIGHLY unusual becuase usually the screen is what sucks the most juice. I turned it off and turned it back on and it went back to being normal. During this overheating the phone stutters EXTREMELY visibly. Probably due to the massive thermal throttling of the cores. Once it cools off it goes back to being normal. This happens randomly and occurs once or twice a day. I've reported the bug to google. Otherwise the phone is superb.
That sounds like the Play Store app is misbehaving. Have you tried clearing the data?
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Remember it's winter at northern hemisphere. So overheating might not be obvious.
Any friends in southern hemisphere (Australia) wanna chime in with their temperatures?
Paradisle said:
I've had the phone for five days now and it definitely overheats. The last time it overheated was this morning. I got up, looked at the phone and unplugged it from the charger. Went to attend to my toddler for 20 mins and came back and saw that the phone was very warm and battery life was hit 20 percent. I did a check on battery usage under 'battery' in settings and saw that the playstore app had sucked 50% of the power of late. This is HIGHLY unusual becuase usually the screen is what sucks the most juice. I turned it off and turned it back on and it went back to being normal. During this overheating the phone stutters EXTREMELY visibly. Probably due to the massive thermal throttling of the cores. Once it cools off it goes back to being normal. This happens randomly and occurs once or twice a day. I've reported the bug to google. Otherwise the phone is superb.
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Same thing happened to me earlier today, I unplugged the phone from the charger and was extremely hot. I panic and shut the phone off. I rooted the phone last night so that was the only thing I did differently. I've had the phone for almost a week.
I also noticed the battery was draining way too quickly.
More like rogue apps... had the phone for over a month now, heavy usage every day and never once has it "overheated"as people say.
If im multitasking, like listening to music, downloading a torrent in the backgroud while playing angry birds or something the top back of the phone will get warm, but nothing unbearable if i deliberatly grab and hold the phone at that spot.
It's a glass phone... it will get warmer than most people are used to... its bascially the same glass that the new kitchen ovens use as a top surface... if you can cook on a glasstop stove... a phone heating up will be the same principle, albit on a smaller scale..
So yes, for the people complaining about heat.. then say in the next breath that they lost battery in some % form... funny how nobody is telling what they have installed as extra..or post screenshots of the battery page to back up the claim with info so we can help...large loss of battery % right away points to a rogue app somewhere.. you dont magically lose 10-20-50% whatever battery when unplugging the phone... thats something stuck running that is forcing your cpu to run at max for an extended period of time.
so as the internet expression says "fraps or it didnt happen" (screenshot or it didnt happen) lol
I am seeing battery temp reach 40C during antutu benchmark test running 4.2.2. Looks like it is only affecting a few devices. It gets warm during the benchmark test but nothing like unbearable heat.
at the moment i've got a nexus s and am seriously considering moving on to a nexus 4, i was wondering if anybody else has made the same move as i would like to know how is the battery life on the n4 compared to the ns. i assume it will be worse but i'm hoping it isn't that much of a difference. thanks
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at the moment i've got a nexus s and am seriously considering moving on to a nexus 4, i was wondering if anybody else has made the same move as i would like to know how is the battery life on the n4 compared to the ns. i assume it will be worse but i'm hoping it isn't that much of a difference. thanks
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made the switch about a week ago. for me the battery life is definitely better. take note that the nexus s only had a 1500mah battery. the phone is a bit big but im quickly getting used to the size. this phone is also lag free.
thing that bothers me is that the phone gets really hot. mine hits 43 degrees celcius when playing games. im thinking of rooting to undervolt it.
The N4 is slightly more power hungry i would say but it is nothing a custom rom cant fix.
my previous device was a Nexus S. I made the switch when the S started to lag/freeze real bad and the battery started draining rapidly. I'm not one to switch devices every year but I'm glad I waited for the N4. Performance is buttery smooth, screen size is awesome, and battery life is excellent. Only minor gripe is that after rooting, it seems my phone sucks up more juice..but could be an isolated incident.
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made the switch about a week ago. for me the battery life is definitely better. take note that the nexus s only had a 1500mah battery. the phone is a bit big but im quickly getting used to the size. this phone is also lag free.
thing that bothers me is that the phone gets really hot. mine hits 43 degrees celcius when playing games. im thinking of rooting to undervolt it.
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43 degrees is not hot... I'm not sure if you're talking case temp or die temp but put it in perspective - the SandyBridge quad core in my desktop PC doesn't throttle 'till 97 degrees C and the ATI GPU in the same system is similar (not that I'd let them get that hot, but Intel and ATI call it 'safe') Obviously this varies from chip to chip, and a CPU running at 80 degrees C is going to make a tablet or phone pretty difficult to hold on to but I'd imagine the limits they've defined are more about protecting the user and the battery (Li-Ion batteries don't like getting hot...) than the SoC itself. Also, the power consumption of a silicon transistor is directly proportional to its temperature, voltage and switching speed. If you let the device get too hot, battery life would go south quite rapidly.
Without undervolting, the Tegra 3 in my Nexus 7 will hit 70+ under simultaneous GPU/CPU load and this is how Google/Asus/NVidia shipped it, so seriously... Don't worry. I don't have an app that can monitor temps on the N4 and neither do I want to know so I'm not about to start fishing about for thermals in sysfs, although I'm sure it's cooler with a 200mV CPU undervolt than stock
I once peered into a rack owned by a client of mine to see one of the servers with a bright red flashing light on it... I asked the guys "how long has this been happening?!" - 4 years of running under high CPU loads at 90 degrees with a ceased fan wasn't enough to kill it, I doubt much will.
ok thanks for the replies was a bit worried that the battery life would be considerable worse but you've set my mind at ease, nexus 4 here i come :good:
insane youth said:
ok thanks for the replies was a bit worried that the battery life would be considerable worse but you've set my mind at ease, nexus 4 here i come :good:
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With the right ROM and kernel, the Nexus 4 is giving me the best battery life of any Android phone I've yet owned. Admittedly, it was just light browsing and youtube-watching, but I got 7 hours screen-on through my last charge cycle... Which is double what I got out of my One X with the same kind of usage!
You won't regret it Just don't put it down on even slightly slanted glossy surfaces with no case covering it... LG appear to have invented the perpetual motion phone!
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With the right ROM and kernel, the Nexus 4 is giving me the best battery life of any Android phone I've yet owned. Admittedly, it was just light browsing and youtube-watching, but I got 7 hours screen-on through my last charge cycle... Which is double what I got out of my One X with the same kind of usage!
You won't regret it Just don't put it down on even slightly slanted glossy surfaces with no case covering it... LG appear to have invented the perpetual motion phone!
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Wow, still can't quite reach seven hours. Most I've had is about six and a half.
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Made the jump myself about a week ago, my Nexus S was starting to lag quite badly and reboot itself a lot. Nexus 4 is leaps and bounds better, no lag, love the screen and battery life seems a little better but not much to be honest, might try rooting and see if it makes a difference with a custom kernal. Very pleased with it overall. Only thing I dislike is the lack of a removable battery and lack of sd card slot but will have to live with it.
Hello Friends,
I wish to gather as much info as we can about the I9500 that are heating......because I was informed by someone at samsung that the devices manufactured after june have a revised PCB....which eliminates the overheating and battery problem.......I got my I9500 on 14th aug but in Antutu it was reching 85 degrees hence I will be getting a replacement tomorow....
Please use *#2222# to find out the HW Version : The defected ones (I assume not confirmed yet) are REV 0.6 because my friend has the same rev and his phone heats up as well........So if we succeed in getting more and more details we can go to samsung svc and ask them to atleast replace the motherboard....Cheers......
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I dunno about 9500, but i am using 9505 and it was hot when i got it.
Ever since i switch to this kernel with proper undervolt, it doesn't run hot anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284252
Maybe ask the guy if he have a port for 9500
Use wheatley governor (huge improvement to reduce heat since it doesn't bump all the way to max cpu all the time).
My battery life nearly doubled, can last 15-20 hours easy depending on usage.
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I dunno about 9500, but i am using 9505 and it was hot when i got it.
Ever since i switch to this kernel with proper undervolt, it doesn't run hot anymore.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284252
Maybe ask the guy if he have a port for 9500
Use wheatley governor (huge improvement to reduce heat since it doesn't bump all the way to max cpu all the time).
My battery life nearly doubled, can last 15-20 hours easy depending on usage.
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Thx mate really appreciate your info now the thing with i9500 is that it doesnt have triangle away supported yet hence I havent rooted or installed cwm.....I will be getting a new device tomrow....lets see what happens....eagerly waiting for triangle away .....
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where do we find the temperature of the cpu and battery?
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where do we find the temperature of the cpu and battery?
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theres an app called temp monitor if you go to the preferences of that app you will find an option that allows the processor temp to be displayed it statusbar all the time....now this app is not available on the play store and i cannot share it as i dont know if its a paid app but you can google for this app....cheers!!!!!!
Hi. mine is REV 0.6 and i bought it on June 12th. when i first got it it heated for no reason after 5 minutes of light use, but i never checked the degree. but after an ota update. the issue is gone and at most extreme conditions it reaches 70-73 degrees.
That's great let's see what happens after I get the replacement
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Mine is Rev 0.6 & I bought it few days ago , I don't have any issue's with my device its working flawlessly.
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Wow that's nice am glad and really thankful that you guys are sharing this info that means it's not a batch thingy just a bad device that I got. ....... also can you guys share the battery backup you get with screen on time would be really helpful
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Hw rev 0.6 here too. Some overheating (while gaming is hell) and no battery problems so far. I am curious about a new hw rev and its improvements
So say we all!! from my GT-I9500
Hmmm so am getting a replacement tomo by tue I will confirm if any improvements are seen if yes then u can approach samsung
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Thx mate really appreciate your info now the thing with i9500 is that it doesnt have triangle away supported yet hence I havent rooted or installed cwm.....I will be getting a new device tomrow....lets see what happens....eagerly waiting for triangle away .....
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honestly, if your problem is only the heat, i am pretty sure a better cpu governor would solve your issue. lets face it, these phone will get hot, running close to 2ghz, quad cores with NO active cooling... even my desktop cpu gets around 45c with liquid cooling man...
i am sure the temperature is an issue using all existing governor (except if you use powersaver or conservative, but is slow), but the wheatley does a good job keeping the phone smooth despite staying at the lower end of the cpu speed as much as possible..
i got my S4, eventhough we have triangle away, i never planned to return it anyway, i'd just deal with the heat problem, in fact, at the beginning before i even discover the new kernel, i just manually reduce the max cpu speed to 1.6Ghz, and that solved the heat problem.
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honestly, if your problem is only the heat, i am pretty sure a better cpu governor would solve your issue. lets face it, these phone will get hot, running close to 2ghz, quad cores with NO active cooling... even my desktop cpu gets around 45c with liquid cooling man...
Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain things.....now the issue i have is i can manage normal heat or for that matter heat which is above avg as well...the only scary part is my phone reaches 85 degrees most of the time.....it doesnt behave like an octa core.....its just like a a15 quad core and the heat is very very high......
i am sure the temperature is an issue using all existing governor (except if you use powersaver or conservative, but is slow), but the wheatley does a good job keeping the phone smooth despite staying at the lower end of the cpu speed as much as possible..
As I have a I9500 if I root the device my warranty will be gone as samsung people will reject the same because i rooted it.....also on the stock rom I am getting less than 3 hes of screen on time......hence requested for replacement....as I do not have the option of rooting the device till triangle away is available for I9500.....
i got my S4, eventhough we have triangle away, i never planned to return it anyway, i'd just deal with the heat problem, in fact, at the beginning before i even discover the new kernel, i just manually reduce the max cpu speed to 1.6Ghz, and that solved the heat problem.
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So without rooting its not possible to limit the cpu and thats where am having a problem!!!!
Rev 0.6 here. Spectacular battery life 5-6 hours screen time. Overheat issue is "almost" gone for me. Atleast the heat is not enough to bother me while browsing and general use. Heavy gaming makes the phone quite hot though, out of the comfort zone of placing the top of the phone in your hand.
Purchased my S4 in June. Had horrible overheat issues, hickups,restarts, battery level suddenly jumping to low followed by a restart.
Every single one of this issue got solved by the firmware update. Latest MG5 (Indian). So please update to this one if you haven't already (Flash it) and report your temp, general battery life etc with us.
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Rev 0.6 here and 3 hours of screen time and 7-11 hours of battery
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Rev 0.6 here. Spectacular battery life 5-6 hours screen time. Overheat issue is "almost" gone for me. Atleast the heat is not enough to bother me while browsing and general use. Heavy gaming makes the phone quite hot though, out of the comfort zone of placing the top of the phone in your hand.
Purchased my S4 in June. Had horrible overheat issues, hickups,restarts, battery level suddenly jumping to low followed by a restart.
Every single one of this issue got solved by the firmware update. Latest MG5 (Indian). So please update to this one if you haven't already (Flash it) and report your temp, general battery life etc with us.
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Yup Been MG5 since Day 1 and have done multiple factory resets still the temperature issue exists even the svc confirmed that the heating I have is a hardware issue,,,,,
*********If anyone from india recently bought the S4 they have a offer going on wherein 1 screen replacement will be done for free by samsung till the device is under warranty you can call samsung cust care and give them your purchase date they will confirm if the device is eligible for a free screen replacement!!!!! So for me no more screen guards needed,.....
I am running MG5 (Indian) firmware stock, no root, hw rev 0.6. I did some measurements today with cool tools
Ambient temp : 29°C
Idle processor temp: 37°C
Light task processor temp: 43-50°C
Web browsing heavy pages: 45-60°C
Playing sonic 4 ep1 : 59-67°C
Antutu processor temp: 70-92°C
Antutu score: 27.896
Pretty standard temp behaviour I guess. The overheating in my phone seems to be the inevitable one that comes with such a powerful (and unfinished) processor.
If someone gets a new hw rev we could compare at a given conditions (ambient temperature, apps running etc..). It might not be very representative, but it could be fun.
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Rev0.6
Bought last June 14..
No "overheat issue."
Heavy gaming makes phone hot but not to the point of overheating. Also after flashing a new rom it gets hot on first reboot (just wait for the rom to settle)
Every smartphone gets hot in a certain situation and thats pretty normal..
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I am running MG5 (Indian) firmware stock, no root, hw rev 0.6. I did some measurements today with cool tools
Ambient temp : 29°C
Idle processor temp: 37°C
Light task processor temp: 43-50°C
Web browsing heavy pages: 45-60°C
Playing sonic 4 ep1 : 59-67°C
Antutu processor temp: 70-92°C
Antutu score: 27.896
Pretty standard temp behaviour I guess. The overheating in my phone seems to be the inevitable one that comes with such a powerful (and unfinished) processor.
If someone gets a new hw rev we could compare at a given conditions (ambient temperature, apps running etc..). It might not be very representative, but it could be fun.
So say we all!! from my GT-I9500
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Well tomrow or day after am getting a replacement I will request them to give me a device manufactured in July let's see the results then
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hypergamer1231 said:
Wow that's nice am glad and really thankful that you guys are sharing this info that means it's not a batch thingy just a bad device that I got. ....... also can you guys share the battery backup you get with screen on time would be really helpful
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Best battery stats of my s4
Got 2x 7 houra screen time
But usually my usage is between 5.5 hours to 6.5hours screen time
I think you really got a bad device and not a batch defect. Good thing they will replace it for a new one.
I suggest update your device yo latest firmware or root and install custom rom and kernel.
Eventhough we have less available rom and kernel for now, the good thing is that they are all very nice and devs are great.
I am about to buy on2 and i read a lot about that fingerprint sensor being slow compared to other nexus devices . Is is true ?
And what are the other downsides of this phone?
How would you rate it?
Design(in hand feel)
Display
Camera
Reception / call
Performance
Software
Battery life
And i am currently using Oneplus one which i think it's awesome. I wanna know if it is worth the upgrade?
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Design(in hand feel) Feels very premium and well build
Display It's okay, nothing spectacular. Could be me since i have OLED everywhere else.
Camera Pretty good. Altough i would have favored a 16mp sensor like the LG
Reception / call Best i ever had. Reception is really good and sound quality is amazing.
Performance Could use some tweaks on the software related side of things.. Should be all fixed with Marshmallow update
Software See my point at performance.
Battery life Stock. 3h SOT. Boeffla kernel: 5-6h SOT.
Another minor complaint is the vibrator. It's slow and noisy and doesnt vibrate well(just like the OPO). I do like the phone though.
paultje162 said:
Design(in hand feel) Feels very premium and well build
Display It's okay, nothing spectacular. Could be me since i have OLED everywhere else.
Camera Pretty good. Altough i would have favored a 16mp sensor like the LG
Reception / call Best i ever had. Reception is really good and sound quality is amazing.
Performance Could use some tweaks on the software related side of things.. Should be all fixed with Marshmallow update
Software See my point at performance.
Battery life Stock. 3h SOT. Boeffla kernel: 5-6h SOT.
Another minor complaint is the vibrator. It's slow and noisy and doesnt vibrate well(just like the OPO). I do like the phone though.
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What about the fingerprint sensor?
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What about the fingerprint sensor?
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Works very good, the "weak" point could be the lack of NFC. But for me its not a problem. I had a nexus 5 for two years and I never use it.
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The two weakest points of the phone really are battery life (at least when running stock OOS) and the stupid Snapdragon 810, which really is a useless piece of crap that unnecessarily limits the phone's performance to a point where it gets ridiculous ...
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What about the fingerprint sensor?
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Fingerprint scanner is quick and responsive. It died on me once but OnePlus had my phone replaced within a week.
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With the new update i m getting sot 4.5 hrs on stock rooted and bootloader locked.. Just use the phone as a phone and u see good results..
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Today i read the oneplus 2 review on anandtech, after reading that i am really disappointed that how oneplus limits the power of Snapdragon 810. They made this phone a quadcore device.
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Today i read the oneplus 2 review on anandtech, after reading that i am really disappointed that how oneplus limits the power of Snapdragon 810. They made this phone a quadcore device.
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It's not OP's fault. It's Snapdragon's. You effectively can't use it as an 8 core CPU because it will overheat quickly. Unless you throttle its frequency significantly.
So I guess we have to see the SD810 more as a medium fast 4 to 6 core processor that can, when needed, be ramped up to a fast 8 core CPU for a short amount of time (and by short I mean no longer than approx. 15 minutes, after which it will get too hot to keep all its cores at max. speed.)
Also, it's perfectly legitimate to shut down cores when they're not needed, as this will save battery. I usually have my phone running on only four cores for most apps, and even that is generous.
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It's not OP's fault. It's Snapdragon's. You effectively can't use it as an 8 core CPU because it will overheat quickly. Unless you throttle its frequency significantly.
So I guess we have to see the SD810 more as a medium fast 4 to 6 core processor that can, when needed, be ramped up to a fast 8 core CPU for a short amount of time (and by short I mean no longer than approx. 15 minutes, after which it will get too hot to keep all its cores at max. speed.)
Also, it's perfectly legitimate to shut down cores when they're not needed, as this will save battery. I usually have my phone running on only four cores for most apps, and even that is generous.
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I guess i am okay with my bamboo edition oneplus one ?
Doesn't seem to be much of an upgrade from my Oneplus one anyway.
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vonotny said:
It's not OP's fault. It's Snapdragon's. You effectively can't use it as an 8 core CPU because it will overheat quickly. Unless you throttle its frequency significantly.
So I guess we have to see the SD810 more as a medium fast 4 to 6 core processor that can, when needed, be ramped up to a fast 8 core CPU for a short amount of time (and by short I mean no longer than approx. 15 minutes, after which it will get too hot to keep all its cores at max. speed.)
Also, it's perfectly legitimate to shut down cores when they're not needed, as this will save battery. I usually have my phone running on only four cores for most apps, and even that is generous.
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I am not much in to technical details cause i am from a different field but this thing is bothering me.
OTG Doesn't work
have tried all kind of OTG cables and none of them work with OPT. HOWEVER all the OTG cables work with my OPO... such a shame omg....
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I am not much in to technical details cause i am from a different field but this thing is bothering me.
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Ah, yes Flash the Boeffla kernel and you can make full-time use of all four A57 cores if you so wish.
Hi guys,
I have purchased Note 4 recently and it seems to be heating in minimal tasks also like surfing the internet. i have flashed KITKAT, LOLLIPOP(default) and MARSHMALLOW but in all these firmwares the problem seemed to be consistent. Earlier i used snapdragon phone which was clocked at 2.3 GHZ and used to heat @ heavy games like No Limits, with recording on but this one is heating in angry birds itself. Though no lags are observed. I have not tried the Marshmallow version latest yet but some body told that latest update fixed heating issue. The root problem i see is its Processor clocked @ 2.7 GHZ, i mean this much we see in PC. I dont understand why they have gone so far. Now Samsung kernel must be clocked such way that on demand it bumps the frequency to max. This max i want to limit to 2 GHZ but without knocking down KNOX warranty. If some one has latest updated Marshmallow release and can confirm that it is indeed not heating please comment or tell me the solution to this problem, i really like this phone but hate when it heats. I am ok with slight lagging due to underclocking. i am willing to flash kernels with lower max frequency via ODIN. No custom recovery intended. Also i dont want to loose on warranty.
Thanks and Regards,
Really looking forward to solution
Ankit
I have a Verizon Note 4. I did have heat issues with Lollipop. Since I installed Marshmallow and did a factory reset, it only gets warm with heavy use. Some app updates have had my Note 4 running warm, but a reset of the phone seems to fix it.
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Seems like custom rom is the only option bro
The Snapdragon 805 SOC does have a bad habit of getting really hot when running heavy tasks.
Not only was my phone Hot for every second I used it but... Look at this amazing SOT.
I finally figured out how to keep Google play services from draining the battery: burn through your entire battery before it even has time to start up.