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I have the G3 and the battery life is not bad. I'm debating between the pixel and the V20. I'm curious how the G3 battery life compares directly with the V20. I know everyone is interested in sharing their battery story and if you have another phone you want to talk about I'll be happy to start another thread. It doesn't help cover my question if people are switching from the G4 or G5 or note or a vibrator or an iPhone... I have a G3 so that is the only frame of reference that will mean anything to me.
It's about the same. Traded in my G3 for the v20 and so far the only thing that's great is the audio on my headphones. Dropped calls and bad LTE connections along with some lag have made me consider taking it back.
OMG get the v20! Switched from the G3 and guessing double the battery life after a week of use. Much better LTE signal strength with fewer dead spots. Killer audio, camera, and love the always on screen.
Looked at a pixel but for the extra cost of about $250 on VZ plus getting the removable battery and SD card I was down for the v20.
This phone is killing the G3. Battery life is waaay better. And I had Greenify and Amplify on my G3. It was rooted and booted but this V20 is 2 steps up without root. Probably get a day and a half once root comes out. Jk. Lol.
THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
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THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
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Basically my phone on standby I have black and white on cause I used it last night and its better on the eyes I just haven't turned it off lol
I too switched from my very loyal/dependable G3 to the V20. I've had the V20 since Oct 29th and I can say without reservation that it blows my old G3 away. I was running Resurrection Remix ROM on my G3, and the V20 still smokes it....regardless of no root/locked bootloader. The only thing I miss is the CM13 theme engine/Layers...but I still think the V20's responsiveness and features make up for it.
I am on Verizon and I've noticed that the signal strength is much better on the V20 compared to what I had on the G3. So far, I am confident that I made the right choice. Also for me, battery life is much better on the V20 and that is with its little 2nd screen on the entire time.... I average a day and half to 2 with moderate to heavy usage. My old G3 would only last about a day.
I did seriously contemplate the Pixel XL, but when I finally had one in hand and compared it to the V20, it was a no brainer for me.....removable battery and expendable local storage sealed the deal.
Good luck with your decision(s)....
I only just changed to the V20 yesterday, so far so good. I will still keep my G3 , it still holds its weight when comparing to other handsets on the market. Though the 2Gb ram was starting to show it's not good enough anymore with android 6.
I just got my V20 today and i have to so far I am loving it over my G3, idk about battery life yet as I killed the battery during setup and restoring my apps.
Thanks for your replies. I look forward to your opinions on the battery.
Well I still have 2X LG G3 and 1X Samsung galaxy s4 . But because my LG V20 came defective from factory i had to return it, but for the short period i used it, i can say it is way better than the LG G3 on Every aspect without exception! (im still waiting for my new LG V20 to come (STUPID BACKORDERS!)) The LG G3 >rooted with AICP or Resurrection Remix would last about 18 hours with screen off, and 3-4:50 hours with screen on device in normal usage, not heavy such as Youtube video on 1440p. Yet with the LG V20 with screen off, i lost about 1 percent every 4 hours with screen off . and screen on i got 6+ hours of normal usage. (i have 35 user apps installed on my LG G3 and also had them on my LG V20, many of them were constantly synchronizing such as package tracker pro, zooper widget pro, among others)
My V20's battery life is just about exactly what I was getting with the G4 and the G3.
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Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
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Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
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If battery life is king, then the Moto Z Play is the phone you want.
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Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
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Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
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Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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I don't know if the P2 when released will have a Verizon option so I'm still hoping to find something with good battery life worth upgrading to without wasting an upgrade. I'd also love the ZenFone 3 Max which only has a 4100mah battery.
Hello everyone,
a few days ago I broke my Nexus 6. I am now about to buy a new phone. The Google Pixel L looks really nice but way to expensive.
The Nexus 6P comes next which costs nearly as much (or even less) than a new Nexus 6 would cost. But is the Nexus 6P still worth it?
Battery life seems to be worse than on the Nexus 6, is this correct?
Camera is better than Nexus 6 but worse than Pixel L and other new phones (samsung/iphone) ?
Performance would be more than enough.
Faster decryption than Nexus 6
Feels better in the hand than the Nexus 6
Anything else I should consider?
Thanks in advance !
I upgraded from the N6 to the 6P about a month ago and I couldn't be happier. Camera is better. Battery life is double what it was on the N6, at least for me it is (I'm not arguing over it). Performance is similar. The one thing that makes it an upgrade for me is that the 6P is easier to use on the go, it's not as wide, really makes a difference.
Im in the same boat, need a phone. Only thing that scares me is all the complaints about the 6p battery starting to degrade after long a year ;-/
I recently "upgraded" from a N6 to a 6P, I'd do it again . Similar performance, camera....Not a huge deal to me. battery life isn't as good as my n6, it seems maybe my used 6p has had a rougher battery life than my n6. It gets me through an average days use but no 5.5-6 hours of SOT.
It feels much better in the hand than the n6, the sRGB mode is a winner in for me, finger print scanner is a nice feature. It's also a nexus, unfortunately the last.
I say do it if you can get a good deal.
I was able to pick up a 64gb for under 300 USD!!
Hm thanka for the input. I am not sure if there are any real alternatives for the same price anyway?
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I recently "upgraded" from a N6 to a 6P, I'd do it again . Similar performance, camera....Not a huge deal to me. battery life isn't as good as my n6, it seems maybe my used 6p has had a rougher battery life than my n6. It gets me through an average days use but no 5.5-6 hours of SOT.
It feels much better in the hand than the n6, the sRGB mode is a winner in for me, finger print scanner is a nice feature. It's also a nexus, unfortunately the last.
I say do it if you can get a good deal.
I was able to pick up a 64gb for under 300 USD!!
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I too manage to get my Nexus 6P for under 300, I got mine for 130 and I have to say, it is well worth in getting.
I also am coming from the Nexus 6 as mine has recently broke last month, a day after Thanksgiving. I ended up cracking the screen whilst having the screenprotector on it and you could tell, there is a difference in using the 6P to the 6. With the 6P, it is less wider and feels good in the hand whereas with the 6 it sorta felt like you were holding a brick. The Gorilla Glass 4 which is used on the 6P feels very strong than to the 6's and the screen resolution is amazing. I think if you are able to find a good price on it, it is well worth the money.
Utini said:
Hello everyone,
a few days ago I broke my Nexus 6. I am now about to buy a new phone. The Google Pixel L looks really nice but way to expensive.
The Nexus 6P comes next which costs nearly as much (or even less) than a new Nexus 6 would cost. But is the Nexus 6P still worth it?
Battery life seems to be worse than on the Nexus 6, is this correct?
Camera is better than Nexus 6 but worse than Pixel L and other new phones (samsung/iphone) ?
Performance would be more than enough.
Faster decryption than Nexus 6
Feels better in the hand than the Nexus 6
Anything else I should consider?
Thanks in advance !
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The degrading battery issue mentioned below, is false for me - completely. Yes, I get degrading but this is normal for ANY lithium battery on the market. And I have a estimated capacity of 3,223. This is only 6% degrading over a year and a half. Plus you can get the phone for half the price of google, on swappa and various other sites in mint condition.
Side note: I feel the degrading issue is more of a myth caused by the recent battery drain issues of Nougat, and users probably blamed their device rather than the software.
Otherwise, I love this phone. Would absolutely get it again. Hope you come to a decision that satisfies you!
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Im in the same boat, need a phone. Only thing that scares me is all the complaints about the 6p battery starting to degrade after long a year ;-/
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Every phones section on XDA is going to complain about the battery on every phone. There could be a phone with a 10,000 milla amp battery and there would still be people on XDA going
"oh i only got 8hrs of SOT seems pretty low for a phone with a 10k battery"
*update comes out*
"OMG my battery sucks on the new update"
Literally every phone i have owned that XDA section complained about the battery.
LG G2X, MyTouch Slide, Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 (that phone was awesome on battery) Nexus 5, Galaxy S6 Edge, Nexus 6P,
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Every phones section on XDA is going to complain about the battery on every phone. There could be a phone with a 10,000 milla amp battery and there would still be people on XDA going
"oh i only got 8hrs of SOT seems pretty low for a phone with a 10k battery"
*update comes out*
"OMG my battery sucks on the new update"
Literally every phone i have owned that XDA section complained about the battery.
LG G2X, MyTouch Slide, Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 (that phone was awesome on battery) Nexus 5, Galaxy S6 Edge, Nexus 6P,
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Oh yea I understand that but I was more so concerned with something just being wrong with the 6p as in a defect that they didn't tell us about just to sale phones
I'm considering going with the 6P over my Axon 7. I'm really missing the big screen, seemless Verizon compatibility and lots of ROMs. I haven't quite decided yet, but I'm lurking in the 6P forums thinking about it... The Axon isn't bad but the dev community pales in comparison to the 6P.
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If you are going to use your phone for more that 2 years get pixel XL it's going to pay for it self but if Nexus 6P is still really smooth
P.S I have the 6P
Go for it! I was on the same boat as you. Was caught in between oneplus3 and 6p.Was coming from oneplus2. I wanted a pure android exp without rooting so I gave 6p a go. Battery has been good for me.Camera is fantastic,i had friends commended the quality and most of them are using iphones. It never felt an old device.
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The degrading battery issue mentioned below, is false for me - completely. Yes, I get degrading but this is normal for ANY lithium battery on the market. And I have a estimated capacity of 3,223. This is only 6% degrading over a year and a half. Plus you can get the phone for half the price of google, on swappa and various other sites in mint condition.
Side note: I feel the degrading issue is more of a myth caused by the recent battery drain issues of Nougat, and users probably blamed their device rather than the software.
Otherwise, I love this phone. Would absolutely get it again. Hope you come to a decision that satisfies you!
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Lol there is absolutely NO battery issue. There is NO battery issue with Nougat. Everyone here complains that there is a battery issue with nougat just as they did with marshmallow and lollipop and kitkat etc.
I just purchased the N6P to replace my V20. I love it so far. Good battery life and excellent camera.
My only complaint (I'm just waiting for a response on this in the Noob Question thread) is that it's a bit sluggish when using some apps and web browsing. Other that it's a blast to use.
Did you get a new 6P? I returned my Axon and am still looking for something to replace my V10...
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Bought a 128gb N6P on eBay a couple days ago and waiting for it to arrive. Just read about the early shutdown issues with batteries that still have a charge. That's my bad for not looking into the phone a little bit more than I did. I too will be replacing a Motorola N6 that I was planning on selling after but maybe I'll wait and see if this affects the phone that I bought.
Ill be happy to report after I get my N6P in a couple days.
NO! If you haven't heard. They no longer work. Drop at 15 percent battery to nothing. Battery or software problems. Get a OnePlus 3t
I'm on 7.0 and not having any issues with my 6P. Excellent battery life (4.5-5 hrs sot) and perfectly stable performance. I had it with me skiing last sunday in 4 degree F weather and it performed flawlessly as well.
I'm on a 7.1.1 ROM and I can use the phone clear down to 1 percent battery. The shutdown bug isn't universal at all. The 6p is easily my favorite phone yet, FWIW.
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I just purchased the N6P to replace my V20. I love it so far. Good battery life and excellent camera.
My only complaint (I'm just waiting for a response on this in the Noob Question thread) is that it's a bit sluggish when using some apps and web browsing. Other that it's a blast to use.
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That's surprising. I've always found the 6P fast and smooth. Did you purchase a new, used or refurbished phone? Are you running stock Android? If so, which build?
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The 6P is a bargain now that the Pixel is out but if I had the money I would probably purchase a Pixel instead. There are bugs (random reboots; phone shutdown at 15% battery) that are affecting a small but still significant number of 6P users. If you buy a 6P make sure it has a full warranty.
What is the communities take on the battery and bootloop issue? Is it inevitable that every Nexus 6P will eventually had one of these issues?
My delema is that the LG G6 is on sale for $300, plus a free Google Home at US Cellular. It's the only carrier that gets service at my house. I know the Nexus 6P is by far the more "entertaining" phone, with all the development on it. Unfortunately this deal may be too good to pass up if I'm likely to have issues with the 6P in the future.
Can you post a link to this? I don't see it for 300 bucks anywhere.
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frigidazzi said:
Can you post a link to this? I don't see it for 300 bucks anywhere.
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https://www.uscellular.com/devices/phones/lg-g6-platinum.html?productId=prod9410143&customer-type=nc&skuType=financing&transactionType=addLine&monthsSelect=30&filters={%22category%22:[%22smartphone%22]}
Look at the 30 month installment pricing. $10/mo for 30 months is $300. Also shows the Google Home promotion on the page.
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https://www.uscellular.com/devices/phones/lg-g6-platinum.html?productId=prod9410143&customer-type=nc&skuType=financing&transactionType=addLine&monthsSelect=30&filters={%22category%22:[%22smartphone%22]}
Look at the 30 month installment pricing. $10/mo for 30 months is $300. Also shows the Google Home promotion on the page.
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That is a really tough call tbh. The screen and camera look great, but I don't have a lot of faith in lg tbh and I would worry about a lack of development, if that is an issue for you.
Nevertheless it looks like a great phone.
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https://www.uscellular.com/devices/...Select=30&filters={"category":["smartphone"]}
Look at the 30 month installment pricing. $10/mo for 30 months is $300. Also shows the Google Home promotion on the page.
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Oh. It's after monthly bill credits. So would have to stick with it and service for 30 months... It's basically a contract. You leave early then you pay more than 300.
After reading the forums, people sound really disappointed. I wouldn't do it op
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Oh. It's after monthly bill credits. So would have to stick with it and service for 30 months... It's basically a contract. You leave early then you pay more than 300.
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Actually the pricing stays the same no matter what installment you choose. US Cellular also states that early payoff does not incur additional fees, including the day of purchase. Only requirement is that it is activated on a post-paid line at time of purchase.
Just reporting back. I did pick it up. It is straight up $300 plus tax. They put it on an installment plan and you just pay it off right away. Also comes with a Google Home promo from LG and I got a $100 US Cellular giftcard. Still gonna keep the 6P for a month on Fi in case I don't like the LG. Can always sell it.
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Just reporting back. I did pick it up. It is straight up $300 plus tax. They put it on an installment plan and you just pay it off right away. Also comes with a Google Home promo from LG and I got a $100 US Cellular giftcard. Still gonna keep the 6P for a month on Fi in case I don't like the LG. Can always sell it.
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Let me know what you think after a couple days. It looks great but reviews on the forum made me apprehensive. I'm considering getting a new phone, and it will probably be an s8, though the g6 is a definite contender, and would save me a lot of money if I do decide to get a new one.
crixley said:
Let me know what you think after a couple days. It looks great but reviews on the forum made me apprehensive. I'm considering getting a new phone, and it will probably be an s8, though the g6 is a definite contender, and would save me a lot of money if I do decide to get a new one.
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So far so good as far as the phone goes. Its really narrow, easy to message on. Going back to the Nexus is difficult ergonomically. The developer landscape is non-existant but it does look like the US Cellular variant probably has an unlocked bootloader. There is already a bounty on TWRP for the TMO variant. Im sure development will pick up once that gets working. Its a popular enough phone.
I've bought my used 6P 3 weeks ago. Battery life was terrible. The only issue. I was having 40-50% of my Nexus 5X life.
After putting a good battery (X-Longer model) in the 6P (last Friday), the phone recovered the original battery life and now I'm having like 25% more battery than my 5X.
So basically I have same battery life I used to have with the Z5 Compact. 4 hours and a full day are guaranteed no matter what you did (gaming....pure chrome browsing of whatever). Maybe 5 hours or 6 if you like to watch videos o too much reading.
I would only upgrade to a Pixel if I wanted a smaller phone. But now that I'm adapting to this phablet...maybe I won't upgrade it before Android P is. released, since it will get O.
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It seems like these will all be dead within a couple years but only time will tell for sure. Still, I don't expect mine to last more than a few months once my warranty expires in July.
thesebastian said:
I've bought my used 6P 3 weeks ago. Battery life was terrible. The only issue. I was having 40-50% of my Nexus 5X life.
After putting a good battery (X-Longer model) in the 6P (last Friday), the phone recovered the original battery life and now I'm having like 25% more battery than my 5X.
So basically I have same battery life I used to have with the Z5 Compact. 4 hours and a full day are guaranteed no matter what you did (gaming....pure chrome browsing of whatever). Maybe 5 hours or 6 if you like to watch videos o too much reading.
I would only upgrade to a Pixel if I wanted a smaller phone. But now that I'm adapting to this phablet...maybe I won't upgrade it before Android P is. released, since it will get O.
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I think I'm going to try a battery replacement. Accubattery says mine is near full capacity but I still get terrible battery life and bad standby battery drain.
crixley said:
I think I'm going to try a battery replacement. Accubattery says mine is near full capacity but I still get terrible battery life and bad standby battery drain.
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There's no need to change battery if accubattery shows full capacity. It would make no difference at all
Balino said:
There's no need to change battery if accubattery shows full capacity. It would make no difference at all
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Accubattery isn't very precise, and a badly made battery could still drain quicker
crixley said:
I think I'm going to try a battery replacement. Accubattery says mine is near full capacity but I still get terrible battery life and bad standby battery drain.
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Yes but consider that accubattery was calculating my battery as 2000 mAh / 3450 mAh. And this without considering that the old battery was turning off between 10-25%
That's why in the end I've ended up with more than 120% increase in battery life with the new battery.
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Accubattery isn't very precise, and a badly made battery could still drain quicker
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Why you think this? Accubattery is really accurate in my experience. I always used that, you can calculate the capacity manually too. And a defective battery is not going to show you more than it can actually hold so if your battery has an high health it's ok and you don't need to change the battery. Anyway the phone is yours and if you want go ahead and open it but the 6p is really difficult to open and a damage could cost you around 20 bucks for the plastic and glass panel.. And finally you could end up installing a worse battery than the one inside
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I currently have the 6p, but notice the battery start to degrade fast... Only 2 hours of sot total.
Should I replace the battery?.. Huawei quotes me 50$usd for the repair... But since the phone is already 1.5yrs, I worry that if I replace the battery and other components inside the phone start to fail, which add total fixing cost
Anyone had the same experience????
Anyone
I just got an "oem" battery off ebay for 13 bucks and put it in myself and i went from 72% capacity on the original battery to 101% on the new one. Night and day with on screen time. Just do it yourself dude its pretty easy and 20 videos on YouTube of how to do it.
Wickidmasshole said:
I just got an "oem" battery off ebay for 13 bucks and put it in myself and i went from 72% capacity on the original battery to 101% on the new one. Night and day with on screen time. Just do it yourself dude its pretty easy and 20 videos on YouTube of how to do it.
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You had all the tools & how long did it honestly take you in time+aggravation?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nexus+6p+battery+replacement
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mousefai0922 said:
Hi
I currently have the 6p, but notice the battery start to degrade fast... Only 2 hours of sot total.
Should I replace the battery?.. Huawei quotes me 50$usd for the repair... But since the phone is already 1.5yrs, I worry that if I replace the battery and other components inside the phone start to fail, which add total fixing cost
Anyone had the same experience????
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https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations had quoted me $90 with quick turnaround (possibly same day with 90 day warranty), how long did Huawei tell you it would take & where would you have to mail it ($50+postage)?
Your fingerprint reader always works flawlessly & how often do you reboot?
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You had all the tools & how long did it honestly take you in time+aggravation?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nexus+6p+battery+replacement
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https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations had quoted me $90 with quick turnaround (possibly same day with 90 day warranty), how long did Huawei tell you it would take & where would you have to mail it ($50+postage)?
Your fingerprint reader always works flawlessly & how often do you reboot?
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Huawei asked me to wait for five days for the repair.
Quite frankly, the phone is already 1.5yr and I m skeptical now should do I do the battery swap at all
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Huawei asked me to wait for five days for the repair.
Quite frankly, the phone is already 1.5yr and I m skeptical now should do I do the battery swap at all
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Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?
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Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?
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Sometime, gadget becomes obsolete overtime.
Lets say I done the battery, and later an other components become defective, more Money to pay for repair.
And also, one problem I notice is that the ram use is near 95% on a one day basis. As apps become more.ram intensive, the 6p may not able to handle task later isn't?
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Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?
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Im looking at oneplus 5 or mi 6...
Don't wanna spend too much on phone nowadays
mousefai0922 said:
Sometime, gadget becomes obsolete overtime.
Lets say I done the battery, and later an other components become defective, more Money to pay for repair.
And also, one problem I notice is that the ram use is near 95% on a one day basis. As apps become more.ram intensive, the 6p may not able to handle task later isn't?
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Batteries have a very limited life cycle which is why I prefer user-replaceable batteries but the Nexus 6P isn't otherwise obsolete beyond its original battery & will reportedly get Android O+security updates to at least Sept 2018. If other components do become defective beyond the expected battery you don't have to invest further but my Samsung Note 4 with user replaceable battery still works fine at over 2.5 years, it's just not the best anymore.
Yes more RAM is helpful especially if you like to keep many active apps going simultaneously but many Android devices out there still have 3GB RAM or less so the 6P's RAM won't make it obsolete soon. OnePlus 5 with 6-8GB RAM is an option if you don't mind not having user replaceable battery nor expandable storage but I'm also considering the LG V20 which can be had <$400 in the US now https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-worth-getting-2017-model-t3630476. I have an open mind about new devices especially after they've been thoroughly reviewed but my Nexus 6P battery experience does have me questioning the wisdom of enclosed batteries when battery degradation can be experienced so quickly.
Are you in the US?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Batteries have a very limited life cycle which is why I prefer user-replaceable batteries but the Nexus 6P isn't otherwise obsolete beyond its original battery & will reportedly get Android O+security updates to at least Sept 2018. If other components do become defective beyond the expected battery you don't have to invest further but my Samsung Note 4 with user replaceable battery still works fine at over 2.5 years, it's just not the best anymore.
Yes more RAM is helpful especially if you like to keep many active apps going simultaneously but many Android devices out there still have 3GB RAM or less so the 6P's RAM won't make it obsolete soon. OnePlus 5 with 6-8GB RAM is an option if you don't mind not having user replaceable battery nor expandable storage but I'm also considering the LG V20 which can be had <$400 in the US now https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-worth-getting-2017-model-t3630476. I have an open mind about new devices especially after they've been thoroughly reviewed but my Nexus 6P battery experience does have me questioning the wisdom of enclosed batteries when battery degradation can be experienced so quickly.
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I used to live in US, but now in HK.
Replaceable battery smartphones are good old days, just forget about them lol.
Android updates is always nice, but since the phone battery degrade (not even two years), i wonder whats the really use of the updates. Also, i do notice al google phone had problems after one year since the update, i wonder google did it on purpose or not. if i had the newest update patch update but the phone is malfunction, then what the point right?
my wife had a lg g4 for more then 2 years, and the battery for that phone is still great (doesnt look like and degreation to me at all).
I had been using nexus ssince galaxy, nexus 5 and 6p now. To me, they dont last very long compare to other phone (2 years for all my previous phone).
I think i will get a cheaper phone (oneplus or mi) as i want to be open about other brands phone as well.
nexus or pixel are nice phone, but they tend not to last very long.
I think I will save the 50$-100$ repair $ for the new phone, just wait for the battery to bludge and call it certified.
mousefai0922 said:
I used to live in US, but now in HK.
Replaceable battery smartphones are good old days, just forget about them lol.
Android updates is always nice, but since the phone battery degrade (not even two years), i wonder whats the really use of the updates. Also, i do notice al google phone had problems after one year since the update, i wonder google did it on purpose or not. if i had the newest update patch update but the phone is malfunction, then what the point right?
my wife had a lg g4 for more then 2 years, and the battery for that phone is still great (doesnt look like and degreation to me at all).
I had been using nexus ssince galaxy, nexus 5 and 6p now. To me, they dont last very long compare to other phone (2 years for all my previous phone).
I think i will get a cheaper phone (oneplus or mi) as i want to be open about other brands phone as well.
nexus or pixel are nice phone, but they tend not to last very long.
I think I will save the 50$-100$ repair $ for the new phone, just wait for the battery to bludge and call it certified.
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Google likely doesn't push problematic updates purposely but Android is fragmented. I would however like to see stock Android offer easy OS rollbacks like how Windows updates does when they cause issues..
Device manufacturers however have a profit motive it seems for frequent upgrades even if it's not best for the environment. High end models especially shouldn't be so disposable so I find the disappearance of user-replaceable batteries-storage somewhat shameful but is the trend lately where fashion (thanks Apple) can be more profitable than functionality.
LG G4 has a removable battery according to http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php , Hong Kong should offer you no shortage of cost efficient options, let us know what you decide to do here..
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Google likely doesn't push problematic updates purposely but Android is fragmented. I would however like to see stock Android offer easy OS rollbacks like how Windows updates does when they cause issues..
Device manufacturers however have a profit motive it seems for frequent upgrades even if it's not best for the environment. High end models especially shouldn't be so disposable so I find the disappearance of user-replaceable batteries-storage somewhat shameful but is the trend lately where fashion (thanks Apple) can be more profitable than functionality.
LG G4 has a removable battery according to http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php , Hong Kong should offer you no shortage of cost efficient options, let us know what you decide to do here..
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Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone
mousefai0922 said:
Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone
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Don't mean to sound like another pushy American but why drag it out? I assume you find 2 hr SOT unacceptable so why not just resolve it with a battery replacement for your quoted $50 (or even <$100) or use-buy another capable device with acceptable SOT?
Even when I get another device on top of my others, I'll not just toss an otherwise functional Nexus 6P in the trash when a battery replacement for <$100 could bring it back to a reasonable SOT life but I hear you if you don't think it's worth that for you or don't want to risk replacing it yourself but 2 hr SOT deserves to be resolved..
mousefai0922 said:
Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone
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You seem to have pretty much made up your mind. You could save a $100 OR pay around $15 before you're ready to move on, give the diy battery replacement a shot and sell the phone for significantly more than $100. If the battery is solid youll likely find a buyer at a minimum$200.
And if you fail... you're out $15 bucks. Not a huge deal.
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Don't mean to sound like another pushy American but why drag it out? I assume you find 2 hr SOT unacceptable so why not just resolve it with a battery replacement for your quoted $50 (or even <$100) or use-buy another capable device with acceptable SOT?
Even when I get another device on top of my others, I'll not just toss an otherwise functional Nexus 6P in the trash when a battery replacement for <$100 could bring it back to a reasonable SOT life but I hear you if you don't think it's worth that for you or don't want to risk replacing it yourself but 2 hr SOT deserves to be resolved..
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i just personally think phones are design to last around 2 years (some can go three, but rarely.)
the reason i dont repair the phone are
1st: other components may fail in the future, eg charging port
2nd: ram usage may not be enough. I have already reached 85% on 3 hour usage... as apps are more ram hungry, the phone probably get run slow soon.
3rd: some cheap flagship phone are just 300$ price range, quite cheap
4th: i did had a bad experience on previous nexus 5. i took the phone to a repair shop... but seem the shop installed me a knock off battery, the battery die after 3 months of repair. and i knew huawei didnt put the battery to the market.. i wonder how those shop people get the official battery for u to install? or they are fake at the beginning?
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You seem to have pretty much made up your mind. You could save a $100 OR pay around $15 before you're ready to move on, give the diy battery replacement a shot and sell the phone for significantly more than $100. If the battery is solid youll likely find a buyer at a minimum$200.
And if you fail... you're out $15 bucks. Not a huge deal.
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i dont usually sell my old smartphone as i wil put them at home as my gaming devices. Plus, i need two phone (personal and work).. so i might get a cheapass oneplus for personal, and then enxus 6p become my gamnig/secondary devices.
u know the resale value for 6p now?
mousefai0922 said:
i just personally think phones are design to last around 2 years (some can go three, but rarely.)
the reason i dont repair the phone are
1st: other components may fail in the future, eg charging port
2nd: ram usage may not be enough. I have already reached 85% on 3 hour usage... as apps are more ram hungry, the phone probably get run slow soon.
3rd: some cheap flagship phone are just 300$ price range, quite cheap
4th: i did had a bad experience on previous nexus 5. i took the phone to a repair shop... but seem the shop installed me a knock off battery, the battery die after 3 months of repair. and i knew huawei didnt put the battery to the market.. i wonder how those shop people get the official battery for u to install? or they are fake at the beginning?
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I was just saying you shouldn't have to put up with a 2 hr SOT for a primary flagship (yes such primary devices are typically designed to remain a primary 1-2 yrs max), if it will be a secondary used primarily at home that's another story but I wouldn't just assume other components will fail. Android manages ram, 85%-95% of 3GB RAM could still be efficient use of available RAM unless everything gets sluggish but you could always reboot. There are other cheap powerful devices now you could consider. I don't think any place will warranty an installed battery's performance for more than 3 months but hopefully it won't get as bad as fast as the initial battery but might depending on charge cycles. This whole discussion would be far easier if consumers could just pop a $ 10 battery themselves in under a minute but manufacturers don't seem to care to offer that anymore..
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I was just saying you shouldn't have to put up with a 2 hr SOT for a primary flagship (yes such primary devices are typically designed to remain a primary 1-2 yrs max), if it will be a secondary used primarily at home that's another story but I wouldn't just assume other components will fail. Android manages ram, 85%-95% of 3GB RAM could still be efficient use of available RAM unless everything gets sluggish but you could always reboot. There are other cheap powerful devices now you could consider. I don't think any place will warranty an installed battery's performance for more than 3 months but hopefully it won't get as bad as fast as the initial battery but might depending on charge cycles. This whole discussion would be far easier if consumers could just pop a $ 10 battery themselves in under a minute but manufacturers don't seem to care to offer that anymore..
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if the user can replace the battery themselves, then i will be still using my nexus 5
mousefai0922 said:
if the user can replace the battery themselves, then i will be still using my nexus 5
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This discussion has made me think more about RAM however, I know I'm more chill now with my 16 GB RAM ultrabook over prior 4-8GB models that needed more of my attention to RAM management intervention-lookout for upgrades:
http://www.bgr.in/news/oneplus-5-6gb-ram-vs-8gb-ram-performance-comparison/
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5-do-you-really-need-8gb-ram-phone
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This discussion has made me think more about RAM however, I know I'm more chill now with my 16 GB RAM ultrabook over prior 4-8GB models that needed more of my attention to RAM management intervention-lookout for upgrades:
http://www.bgr.in/news/oneplus-5-6gb-ram-vs-8gb-ram-performance-comparison/
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5-do-you-really-need-8gb-ram-phone
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3gb on 6p is enough for now... But not sure about the future.....
2 yrs lifespan on a smartphone, I thiNk is well used
Hi guys!
I wanted to ask you how this phone defend itself in this time. Is it still good enough for the upcoming 2018?
I heard that the processor was overheating and it had similar problems with battery like his little bro moto x 2014.
The phone is good enough... the battery is life and longevity is garbage, this phones primary weakness is the battery and without it being replaceable easily with a good, quality replacement (which is hard to find) it just falls short.
Does it get warm... yup. The CPU and display are both battery hogs, and the battery Moto used is honestly at the end of it's life or near it for most people.
Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...
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Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...
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Ambient Display on the Moto X Pure is a little different... assuming you have the latest Nougat, it is one pulse of information, it doesn't repeat. Honestly, I find it of little use and disable it.
It sounds like you are looking at buying one... All I can say is don't bother at this point unless you are getting an really incredible bargain, like under 20% of the cost new, because the battery is that bad especially after this much time. There are much better bargains out there.
Since you have had a Moto G 2015 (and I did as well) let me give you a comparison... I found the X got 1/2-2/3 of the battery life of the Moto G 2015 when new, and that actually got worse. By the time I got rid of my MXPE after about 18 months of normal use, I was unable to get 2 hours of SOT over a 5 hour period and was charging 2-3 times per day, where the Moto G 2015 which was actually about 3 or 4 months older was still getting 3.5 hours of SOT and making it through a full day.
Def good enough. I bought an S8+ after having the Moto for 2 years. Development sucks for the American S8+. The only positive is better battery life, in my opinion. The display is kinda wonky on the Galaxy compared to the Moto as well. I was just praising the amount of flexibility allowed by the Moto in an S8+ thread. Yea, battery sucks but it charges quick. I still found myself charging less often and a hell of a lot more quickly than my coworkers with their crappy iPhones.
Battery life is not a problem for me. Still it lasts the whole day. There is a bunch of 7.1.2 roms which decrease the battery life noticeably. Stock or AICP, no problems with battery life. It gets hot by hard usage, yes.
Maybe really hard phone users wont last the day.
And any non-replaceable battery is replaceable. It just involves taking the phone apart.
Waiting for some 8.0 rom to test.
Now that I have 7.0 using the Sprint SIM trick on VZW and managed to get WiFi Calling working i think this phone is pretty sweet for the $250 I paid for it.
I would not buy this phone again, battery life is crap and cpu overheats even with easy 2d games (lol). Also there are common graphics glitches (like colors being way off for no reason or display looking broken with white stripes or something) that happen once 1-3 months (that's really strange) - sure they disappear after reboot but it makes this phone unreliable. Also the backlight quality in some devices is very bad.
yeah the screen, camera, speakers and build quality are very good. I have my Moto X Pure running on Carbon and it's very good. I'm gonna get a Moto Z next week though
As a backup phone for running Youtube TV or letting my daughter play with, absolutely. As a daily driver, not a chance in hell. The battery discharges too fast, the phone over heats, and the NFC is very spotty after 3 years.
Personally, I could get by easily with a Palm Pre or an Epic 4g. For my use the battery lasts all day and I get about 4.5 hrs of sot on average. I dont notice alot of heating up personally on AEX rom with handbag kernel.
Because nothing else is yet!
The answer is yes... because it's the only thing "good enough to deal with." Aside from the basics, I have six standard criteria for choosing a mobile device, of which five absolutely must be met (Verizon compatibility, unlockable bootloader, excellent screen, acceptable camera, price, and software). The Pure Edition soundly meets all six, and then some. No other device (at this point in time) can match that. The deteriorating battery situation is a bummer, but largely overblown by people (like myself) who used Magisk and got stuck with the whole magisk-daemon-eating-up-the-battery situation.
With that said, I've always got my eyes open for devices that can satisfy these six basic criteria, but in the meantime, I'll count my blessings. I've researched dozens upon dozens of different phones, and the only thing that this research makes me feel is thankfulness for the Pure Edition, because I don't know what I'd do without it, at least for the long term.