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Nexus 5 2013 Owners Get ITT

Will you be upgrading or staying on your current phone?

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already sold my N5 in preparation for this. Couldn't handle the monster size phone they put out last year.

I just keep my old nexus 5 if there is something wrong with my new nexus or i give it to someone else close who needs it

I'm still rocking my launch day(ordered) Nexus 5 with no hardware issues whatsoever. Hoping to get lucky and snag a day one device again this time.

Day 1 N5 owner!
Let the new games begin!

nljelmer said:
I just keep my old nexus 5 if there is something wrong with my new nexus or i give it to someone else close who needs it
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My thoughts too, I will keep mine. Best phone I've ever had, all my expectations have been fulfilled 'til today!
AndrasLOHF said:
I'm still rocking my launch day(ordered) Nexus 5 with no hardware issues whatsoever. Hoping to get lucky and snag a day one device again this time.
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bfspider said:
Day 1 N5 owner!
Let the new games begin!
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Same here, another day one owner ...rock 'n' rollin' til today!

Oh, hell. I got a mini heart attack when I saw "Nexus 5X Forums Officially Available!" in my feed-reader. For a few seconds, I was wondering whether Google has officially announced the phones while I was offline. Y u do this xda..!!
Anyway, I hope the new phones have good battery performance. This is my situation with N5 -
1. Keeping the radio at 2G 99% of the time.
2. Location, Sync, Mobile Data, NFC - all are always off unless I need to use some app that needs them.
3. Greenify, Amplify, PowerNap.
4. Turn the screen on as few times as possible.
And yet, the battery drains like nobody's business. WTH...!!
I wish someday I'll have a phone where I won't have to worry about keeping the "Sync" on and the phone can actually be used as a smartphone.

Only got my N5 2013 last October, but I still can't wait to jump on the N5x train.

For me.. I'll use my Nexus 5 till it gives up. Nexus 5 will remain a legend and its legacy will continue with 5X.

Day 1 user here as well...
Quite frankly my only gripe with this phone has been the average/below average battery life... Otherwise been very satisfied... Not complaining about the pics either... Think they come out quite well...
Will be interesting to see what they do with the new cameras...

i use a motox 2014 since december when i trashed my n5 (RiP)
i am satisfied so far but i can not wait to jump the nexus train gain

Day 1 owner of the N5, and looking forward to being a day 1 owner of the N5X.
The N5 has been easily the best phone I've ever owned. Honestly, if the battery life was even average at this point I'd probably put off buying a new phone until next year. The usability of the phone is still top notch.

For you day 1 N5 folks, you should probably look into replacing the battery. It's quite easy and totally worth it. I did and I finally get decent battery life like back in 2013.

I kept my N5 since launch and just grabbed it tonight to tinker. Sold my N6 looking for smaller and went with G4. Very excited to be ordering a 5X soon

gregk232 said:
For you day 1 N5 folks, you should probably look into replacing the battery. It's quite easy and totally worth it. I did and I finally get decent battery life like back in 2013.
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Very true. Battery life became really good after putting in a new one in April. Especially after 5.1.1.
However, I sold it in prep for the new N5. Very excited.
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Had the OG Nexus 5 a month after it came out, but ended up giving it to my brother April 2015 after he broke his phone. I now have the Galaxy S6, but man do I miss my Nexus 5. I'm pretty set on buying the Nexus 5X once it comes out.

I bought mine few weeks after launch. Everything is perfect but I am planning to buy a new one because of 2 reasons:
1. Battery life is terrible - a week ago I replaced it and I noticed a small increase in SOT, but nothing extreme... I used to get 2 hours SOT, now with the new battery I get somewhere between 2.5 - 3 hours SOT. I want something that will get me 5-6 SOT and I believe there is something with that amount of SOT on the market... I hope 5X or 6P will be the ones.
2. My screen is a little bit cracked. I dropped it several times, but the last time the screen cracked a tiny bit on the corner. Its unnoticeable unless you really looking, but still it bothers me....

day 1 nexus 5 user here. It's an excellent phone, until one day I slept on it and my elbow put pressure on the screen. Now there are dead spots on the screen, so I can't type "E" anymore unless I go landscape mode. Without this, I might still use the nexus 5 and skip nexus 5x because I'm cheap. That said, I really love my Nexus 5, and I can imagine the Nexus 5x will be even better.

DrunkFuX666 said:
Day 1 user here as well...
Quite frankly my only gripe with this phone has been the average/below average battery life... Otherwise been very satisfied... Not complaining about the pics either... Think they come out quite well...
Will be interesting to see what they do with the new cameras...
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bagarwa said:
This is my situation with N5 -
1. Keeping the radio at 2G 99% of the time.
2. Location, Sync, Mobile Data, NFC - all are always off unless I need to use some app that needs them.
3. Greenify, Amplify, PowerNap.
4. Turn the screen on as few times as possible.
And yet, the battery drains like nobody's business. WTH...!!
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If you've checked and there's nothing keeping the CPU or radio awake, it might be time to replace your battery. It's been two years since the Nexus 5 2013's release, many of those batteries are wearing out.

Shelf Life?

To those who own the MXPE: Do you see this phone lasting 2ish years before needing an upgrade?
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger (via work), but I will pretty much absolutely be locked down for 2 years.
I understand NO phone is future-proof, just trying to get some insight from those who own this. I also understand most people here and who will post here probably like their phone. Again, just looking for some first hand experience.
This is not a compare "x" phone to this one.

I think it will for me. Hell, I had my Nexus 5 for two years and that's the longest I have ever had a phone. Usually a month or two did it for me. I'd buy a phone on a whim and go back to the Nexus 5 every time. This seems to be another phone like that for me.
As long as it gets 6.0 at some point, that will be just fine by me. I kept the Nexus 5 on 4.4.2 until just a few months ago.

No reason to feel it won't last 2 years. The standard now is 2 years of updates. And I feel the construction of the device will last.
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I think shelf life has much more to do with the user than the phone. If you don't want something new and shiny, and you don't break your phone, there's no reason it won't "last." But we all get the itch....

I had an Samsung Galaxy s3 for 2yrs. I know people that have had the S3 since it came out 3yrs ago. If the s3 can last 3yrs this phone can last 2yrs.
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Personally, no I don't. Unless a stock or aosp rom enhances battery life twice what it is now. I came from the LG g3 that had the same size battery and I feel it lasted A LOT longer. I will be selling mine at the turn of the year for a Nexus 6p once all the hype has calmed down and I may be able to snatch a used one fairly cheap.

Beats the heck out of my Nexus 5 in the battery department. so I'll be happy for a long while.

How will the battery hold a charge 18 months from now? Nobody knows at this point. Doesn't matter if Marshmallow helps with battery life on a day-to-day basis. As long as the movable parts hold up...power switch, volume rocker, gyroscope, etc. then the phone should last more than two years. But, will we choose to replace the battery if it starts to go south? Tear down is available but not as easy as one would like in order to swap batteries.

Baldilocks said:
Beats the heck out of my Nexus 5 in the battery department. so I'll be happy for a long while.
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Yeah, the N5 set the bar so low for me in the battery dept that anything is a huge improvement

I'm looking at replacing my Note 3, but only because I won't be getting any new updates. If there would be updates, I figure I'd keep it at least 1, if not 2 more years.
With an unlocked bootloader, you can get updates, as long as someone keeps working on them, and that's why I'm looking so closely at the MXPE. (My old ASUS TF201 has lollipop, but no updates from ASUS for 2+ years!)

I got 2 years out of my Moto G 2013 without too much bother... If the X-Style gets similar android support, this will last 2 years easy for me. Maybe more.
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I came from 2 years on an HTC One M7. Loving the Pure so far - the fast charge makes a huge difference. I can easily see it lasting me 2-3 years as long as the dev community supports it with the latest roms.

The build is about the same as the S3 (had it for two years) and G3.
Both phones lasted. I think this phone will last, so long as you're not crazy clumsy or forgetful.
This is the first no carrier phone I bought because I have VZ and need a decent camera. Lasting with me depends on whether there is another phone next year with features that outdoes this one.
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Got a note 5, thinking of returning for nexus 6p (read please)

Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?

You might get some biased answers here since this is a 6p forum but I'd check the battery stats first, see what's causing that drain. Some phones require a few charges to optimize the battery too. Finally, it could just be a faulty model

I researched the Note 5 real hard between trying out an iPhone 6S+ and buying a 6P. I was coming from an S5 and the wife has a Note 3, which we both like quite a bit. Her Note is actually what got me wanting a bigger screen than my S5. But I did read a lot of complaints about the Note 5 battery life (and the glass backs cracking, even saw a display model at Best Buy with a busted back glass). And being I'm Verizon with no chance to root a Note 5, I opted for the 6P. Battery life has been very good with a few tweaks. Browse through the threads here to find what works. And you don't have to go nuts with the tweaks. For me, just running a custom Kernel, using Greenify for a few apps and not installing GasBuddy were all that was needed.

The Nexus 6P is a great device from a software point of view (= guaranteed updates, no Knox or other nasty stuff ) but not very durable from a mechanical point of view. You really have to take care when using this phone because the Aluminum body is weak and prone to warping or bending. That´s the only downside of this device..

I would say if you're looking to switch because of battery life you likely won't find find much relief by switching to the Nexus 6P. Most new high end phones are clocking in 4-6 hours of screen on time. The Oneplus One may have provided you better battery life due to the lower resolution screen, older (probably less power hungry) processor, and tweaks that were part of CyanogenMod. What kind of screen on time are you getting between the Oneplus One and Note 5?
In terms of performance, I haven't seen a single issue with the Nexus 6P, but screen on time maxes out for me around 4-5 hours. The standby time has been much improved in Marshmallow, but that update should be seen soon-ish on the Note 5.

I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.

omz123 said:
I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.
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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.

gman88667733 said:
Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?

You won't notice it honestly, I just make sure I don't sit on it or anything. The phone itself is a lot better than the note 5. Worth the buy if you're careful

omz123 said:
Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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If I have any kind of warping on my Nexus 6P I can't see it. The only time warping might be bothersome is if you want to use a tempered glass screen protector, as it will peel away from the display.
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!

I had the Note 5 before upgrading to the 6P. I am much happier with the 6P, it's better in every way IMO with the exception of the Note 5 having a bit better camera.

I had a OPO and loved the battery life, I went to the N6 and then the N6P and wouldn't even think of any other phone at this point. If you enjoy tweaking, the 6P is the phone for you. Running Cataclysm rom + ElementalX + Pay and V4A, I get between 5-6 hours of SOT, but more importantly for me, I'm usually around 30-40% after my long work day.
I've not had a single issue with any bend or warp. I always put a tempered screen protector on and a very minimal case. I would imagine any thin, larger phone will bend if in your rear pocket if sat on, the IPhone6+ had a similar "issue".

BillyTheRatKing said:
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!
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Lucky the note still has good resale value here! Can sell it and pick up a 64gb Nexus for the same price off Gumtree.

omz123 said:
Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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I don't think so, but I don't carry my phone in my pocket. I use a NiteIze belt carrier. It did make me opt for getting the phone straight from Google though, so I could get the Google Protect program on it. Cost me a little more to get it that way, but good peace of mind since all the feedback I've read about using that program has been very good.

manupa14 said:
Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?
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So far battery life has been excellent for me. I uploaded this for another thread but it may help answer your questions. I should mention that since the last full charge I have not been playing games or streaming video, which might have move the drop-off point up a few hours.

I am sure you can see, there are a bunch of 6P owners complaining about battery life also. My opinion is biased but my 6P seems great with all the stuffs on so far. I would recommend going a full day with location services turned off, google now fully turned off, to see how much drain there is. I came from a Note 4 and that got pretty good battery life with location services off and google now off. I manually turned the GPS on and off when I needed it. Also try removing/disabling as much Samsung and carrier bloatware as possible.

Poor battery life - just the phone, or something else?

Hello,
My Nexus 6P, albeit a great phone, is starting to get a little slow and the battery life has suffered. My memory usage isn't high, around 2GB. I close all apps after using them. I haven't even used close to half of my 64GB storage.
I am a very heavy phone user, and I am having to recharge my 6P more than once every day. I cannot sustainably use max screen brightness as it drains the battery too quickly, a shame because maximum brightness on this phone is so beautiful!
From some testing, it is taking 2 minutes and 3 seconds to drop 1% in battery life at maximum screen brightness while watching YouTube. Round to two minutes, multiply by 100, and that gives you 200 minutes. 3 hours and 20 minutes.. that is silly, plus the battery drops off faster as the percentage decreases (I tested at 94%).
Realistically, I can get 2.5-3 hours on this phone at maximum brightness - is there something wrong, or is this just the phone? While writing this post in 5 minutes, I dropped another 3%...

It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.

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It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?

Lower the brightness.

phoenixsilver said:
Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
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You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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Jammol said:
You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.

phoenixsilver said:
So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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I can't say that, but I can say there's no device that we can expect to just use that way. All devices (even outside of smartphones) are like that. If it runs on a battery expect not to be able to use it to its full capabilities for an extended period of time.
Cars are the same way. If you run it at max speed all the time (if there were no laws), you'll run out of gas extremely quickly, compared to 65mph. Same concept applies here. It sucks but that's the way it is.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.

edios123 said:
The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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Jammol said:
Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.

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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.

Jammol said:
I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.

I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone

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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
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Sometimes I go bare with it because I'm always "careful" lol. I plan on having a case for the 6P for sure. I'll probably go bare off and on once I get used to the device and become comfortable.
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I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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No shame there. Seems like something is staying awake when it should be dozing. I'm assuming it's not rooted right?
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Unsure of which new device 6P or V10? Help me!!

As the title suggest. I am in need of a new phone. I current have an LG G3 and I love it. I drive for UPS so when I'm on a blind route I need to have a long lasting battery for GPS. Plus i stream music all day long (at least 10 hours). With the G3 I tend to swap batteries at about then 8 hours mark if not the 9. I know with the 6P thats not possible. But I do have a battery pack I can charge it on. Which i hate doing but if it can charge up fairly fast. like 20% in 15 minutes or so thats great.
The V10 i've been reading so many reviews of horrible battery life, some even saying the battery is done after 5-6 hours. But it is a removable battery so not that big of a deal, but 5-6 hours is crap.
So help me out here. Which one do ya'll suggest...and yes i know I'm in the Nexus 6p group, but you're all XDA'ers and I'm sure you've all used a multitude of phones.
How much juice can the 6P soak up from a 2.1 volt or amp..never remember what it is, battery backup in 15-30 minutes time?
how long are you getting out of a full battery after you root, rom, customize your 6P?
I've noticed there is no real "following" in the V10 development thread. So thats also a bad mark for the V10.

The 6p will be done with 6hrs SOT. Actually, running GPS and music, even with screen off im not sure you can hit 8 hrs regardless of ROM or kernel. That's a tall order, GPS kills battery on any device.
Why not just charge it while using it with a DC charger?

6P all the way. I have the 6P and my brother has the V10 and my phone blows the V10 outta the water... His phone is dead by 11am and the poor software makes the phone slow. If anything get the G5 if you're set on LG. The 6P is the best phone I've ever owned. From iPhone 3g, 4, SIII, note 3 and 4. My only con would be the camera and it's difficulty in focusing on close objects (could be user error!)

I owned the v10 and battery life is weak. Go with the 6p and you won't regret being stuck on a locked bootloader ( if you're not using the T-Mobile variant) you have more options and the front facing speakers blow the v10 out of the water

maybe you should get the s7 edge, it has superior battery life than v10 and n6p, but is fragile. also i am getting 2-4 hrs sot on n6p no matter the rom or kernel , with 3g on all the time.

thanks guys. i cant charge the phone while using it thru DC because no sockets in the trucks. i wish they would start installing those things but no luck. its gotta be a battery pack.
ive never been a samsung fan.

Don't get the V10.. I had the G3 and was in love with that phone! It had everything I wanted in it, but got fed up with not having a "pure android" phone so got the 6P, my first Nexus device. My buddy just got a new phone around January and love the V10, but started running into issues with the battery. It wouldn't charge properly, the battery port was busted and wouldn't hold the charger in place so he had to get a new phone and when it came in the mail it always randomly reboots. So not sure if he is having bad luck or if the issue is with the first generation of that device.

Wouldn't touch an LG device right now. I loved my G3, and my G4 was just replaced with a 6P. Terrible battery, bootloops and wifi is terribly broken on the G4. not the same phone as the V10 but close enough. LG is having tons of issues right now

I had the v10 before I bought my 6P and hated that phone with a passion. The screen would have weird colors, battery life sucked, and the dev community for it is lacking. I highly recommend the 6P