battery degrade - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I currently have the 6p, but notice the battery start to degrade fast... Only 2 hours of sot total.
Should I replace the battery?.. Huawei quotes me 50$usd for the repair... But since the phone is already 1.5yrs, I worry that if I replace the battery and other components inside the phone start to fail, which add total fixing cost
Anyone had the same experience????

Anyone

I just got an "oem" battery off ebay for 13 bucks and put it in myself and i went from 72% capacity on the original battery to 101% on the new one. Night and day with on screen time. Just do it yourself dude its pretty easy and 20 videos on YouTube of how to do it.

Wickidmasshole said:
I just got an "oem" battery off ebay for 13 bucks and put it in myself and i went from 72% capacity on the original battery to 101% on the new one. Night and day with on screen time. Just do it yourself dude its pretty easy and 20 videos on YouTube of how to do it.
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You had all the tools & how long did it honestly take you in time+aggravation?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nexus+6p+battery+replacement
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mousefai0922 said:
Hi
I currently have the 6p, but notice the battery start to degrade fast... Only 2 hours of sot total.
Should I replace the battery?.. Huawei quotes me 50$usd for the repair... But since the phone is already 1.5yrs, I worry that if I replace the battery and other components inside the phone start to fail, which add total fixing cost
Anyone had the same experience????
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https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations had quoted me $90 with quick turnaround (possibly same day with 90 day warranty), how long did Huawei tell you it would take & where would you have to mail it ($50+postage)?
Your fingerprint reader always works flawlessly & how often do you reboot?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
You had all the tools & how long did it honestly take you in time+aggravation?
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nexus+6p+battery+replacement
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https://www.ubreakifix.com/locations had quoted me $90 with quick turnaround (possibly same day with 90 day warranty), how long did Huawei tell you it would take & where would you have to mail it ($50+postage)?
Your fingerprint reader always works flawlessly & how often do you reboot?
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Huawei asked me to wait for five days for the repair.
Quite frankly, the phone is already 1.5yr and I m skeptical now should do I do the battery swap at all

mousefai0922 said:
Huawei asked me to wait for five days for the repair.
Quite frankly, the phone is already 1.5yr and I m skeptical now should do I do the battery swap at all
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Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?
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Sometime, gadget becomes obsolete overtime.
Lets say I done the battery, and later an other components become defective, more Money to pay for repair.
And also, one problem I notice is that the ram use is near 95% on a one day basis. As apps become more.ram intensive, the 6p may not able to handle task later isn't?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Battery replacement for $50 - $90 is worth it to me since it's still a solid device with front facing stereo speakers, something else out there have your attention?
People are reporting the battery replacement as very helpful: https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/6p-affected-bij-shutdown-issue-t3547266/page3
Does the $50 include postage (& did Huawei ask you to reset the device or for your password)?
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Im looking at oneplus 5 or mi 6...
Don't wanna spend too much on phone nowadays

mousefai0922 said:
Sometime, gadget becomes obsolete overtime.
Lets say I done the battery, and later an other components become defective, more Money to pay for repair.
And also, one problem I notice is that the ram use is near 95% on a one day basis. As apps become more.ram intensive, the 6p may not able to handle task later isn't?
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Batteries have a very limited life cycle which is why I prefer user-replaceable batteries but the Nexus 6P isn't otherwise obsolete beyond its original battery & will reportedly get Android O+security updates to at least Sept 2018. If other components do become defective beyond the expected battery you don't have to invest further but my Samsung Note 4 with user replaceable battery still works fine at over 2.5 years, it's just not the best anymore.
Yes more RAM is helpful especially if you like to keep many active apps going simultaneously but many Android devices out there still have 3GB RAM or less so the 6P's RAM won't make it obsolete soon. OnePlus 5 with 6-8GB RAM is an option if you don't mind not having user replaceable battery nor expandable storage but I'm also considering the LG V20 which can be had <$400 in the US now https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-worth-getting-2017-model-t3630476. I have an open mind about new devices especially after they've been thoroughly reviewed but my Nexus 6P battery experience does have me questioning the wisdom of enclosed batteries when battery degradation can be experienced so quickly.
Are you in the US?

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Batteries have a very limited life cycle which is why I prefer user-replaceable batteries but the Nexus 6P isn't otherwise obsolete beyond its original battery & will reportedly get Android O+security updates to at least Sept 2018. If other components do become defective beyond the expected battery you don't have to invest further but my Samsung Note 4 with user replaceable battery still works fine at over 2.5 years, it's just not the best anymore.
Yes more RAM is helpful especially if you like to keep many active apps going simultaneously but many Android devices out there still have 3GB RAM or less so the 6P's RAM won't make it obsolete soon. OnePlus 5 with 6-8GB RAM is an option if you don't mind not having user replaceable battery nor expandable storage but I'm also considering the LG V20 which can be had <$400 in the US now https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/lg-v20-worth-getting-2017-model-t3630476. I have an open mind about new devices especially after they've been thoroughly reviewed but my Nexus 6P battery experience does have me questioning the wisdom of enclosed batteries when battery degradation can be experienced so quickly.
Are you in the US?
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I used to live in US, but now in HK.
Replaceable battery smartphones are good old days, just forget about them lol.
Android updates is always nice, but since the phone battery degrade (not even two years), i wonder whats the really use of the updates. Also, i do notice al google phone had problems after one year since the update, i wonder google did it on purpose or not. if i had the newest update patch update but the phone is malfunction, then what the point right?
my wife had a lg g4 for more then 2 years, and the battery for that phone is still great (doesnt look like and degreation to me at all).
I had been using nexus ssince galaxy, nexus 5 and 6p now. To me, they dont last very long compare to other phone (2 years for all my previous phone).
I think i will get a cheaper phone (oneplus or mi) as i want to be open about other brands phone as well.
nexus or pixel are nice phone, but they tend not to last very long.
I think I will save the 50$-100$ repair $ for the new phone, just wait for the battery to bludge and call it certified.

mousefai0922 said:
I used to live in US, but now in HK.
Replaceable battery smartphones are good old days, just forget about them lol.
Android updates is always nice, but since the phone battery degrade (not even two years), i wonder whats the really use of the updates. Also, i do notice al google phone had problems after one year since the update, i wonder google did it on purpose or not. if i had the newest update patch update but the phone is malfunction, then what the point right?
my wife had a lg g4 for more then 2 years, and the battery for that phone is still great (doesnt look like and degreation to me at all).
I had been using nexus ssince galaxy, nexus 5 and 6p now. To me, they dont last very long compare to other phone (2 years for all my previous phone).
I think i will get a cheaper phone (oneplus or mi) as i want to be open about other brands phone as well.
nexus or pixel are nice phone, but they tend not to last very long.
I think I will save the 50$-100$ repair $ for the new phone, just wait for the battery to bludge and call it certified.
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Google likely doesn't push problematic updates purposely but Android is fragmented. I would however like to see stock Android offer easy OS rollbacks like how Windows updates does when they cause issues..
Device manufacturers however have a profit motive it seems for frequent upgrades even if it's not best for the environment. High end models especially shouldn't be so disposable so I find the disappearance of user-replaceable batteries-storage somewhat shameful but is the trend lately where fashion (thanks Apple) can be more profitable than functionality.
LG G4 has a removable battery according to http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php , Hong Kong should offer you no shortage of cost efficient options, let us know what you decide to do here..

SMARTPHONEPC said:
Google likely doesn't push problematic updates purposely but Android is fragmented. I would however like to see stock Android offer easy OS rollbacks like how Windows updates does when they cause issues..
Device manufacturers however have a profit motive it seems for frequent upgrades even if it's not best for the environment. High end models especially shouldn't be so disposable so I find the disappearance of user-replaceable batteries-storage somewhat shameful but is the trend lately where fashion (thanks Apple) can be more profitable than functionality.
LG G4 has a removable battery according to http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g4-6901.php , Hong Kong should offer you no shortage of cost efficient options, let us know what you decide to do here..
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Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone

mousefai0922 said:
Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone
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Don't mean to sound like another pushy American but why drag it out? I assume you find 2 hr SOT unacceptable so why not just resolve it with a battery replacement for your quoted $50 (or even <$100) or use-buy another capable device with acceptable SOT?
Even when I get another device on top of my others, I'll not just toss an otherwise functional Nexus 6P in the trash when a battery replacement for <$100 could bring it back to a reasonable SOT life but I hear you if you don't think it's worth that for you or don't want to risk replacing it yourself but 2 hr SOT deserves to be resolved..

mousefai0922 said:
Probably wait until my phone really dies and buy a new phone, save the 100$ for new phone
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You seem to have pretty much made up your mind. You could save a $100 OR pay around $15 before you're ready to move on, give the diy battery replacement a shot and sell the phone for significantly more than $100. If the battery is solid youll likely find a buyer at a minimum$200.
And if you fail... you're out $15 bucks. Not a huge deal.

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Don't mean to sound like another pushy American but why drag it out? I assume you find 2 hr SOT unacceptable so why not just resolve it with a battery replacement for your quoted $50 (or even <$100) or use-buy another capable device with acceptable SOT?
Even when I get another device on top of my others, I'll not just toss an otherwise functional Nexus 6P in the trash when a battery replacement for <$100 could bring it back to a reasonable SOT life but I hear you if you don't think it's worth that for you or don't want to risk replacing it yourself but 2 hr SOT deserves to be resolved..
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i just personally think phones are design to last around 2 years (some can go three, but rarely.)
the reason i dont repair the phone are
1st: other components may fail in the future, eg charging port
2nd: ram usage may not be enough. I have already reached 85% on 3 hour usage... as apps are more ram hungry, the phone probably get run slow soon.
3rd: some cheap flagship phone are just 300$ price range, quite cheap
4th: i did had a bad experience on previous nexus 5. i took the phone to a repair shop... but seem the shop installed me a knock off battery, the battery die after 3 months of repair. and i knew huawei didnt put the battery to the market.. i wonder how those shop people get the official battery for u to install? or they are fake at the beginning?

KLit75 said:
You seem to have pretty much made up your mind. You could save a $100 OR pay around $15 before you're ready to move on, give the diy battery replacement a shot and sell the phone for significantly more than $100. If the battery is solid youll likely find a buyer at a minimum$200.
And if you fail... you're out $15 bucks. Not a huge deal.
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i dont usually sell my old smartphone as i wil put them at home as my gaming devices. Plus, i need two phone (personal and work).. so i might get a cheapass oneplus for personal, and then enxus 6p become my gamnig/secondary devices.
u know the resale value for 6p now?

mousefai0922 said:
i just personally think phones are design to last around 2 years (some can go three, but rarely.)
the reason i dont repair the phone are
1st: other components may fail in the future, eg charging port
2nd: ram usage may not be enough. I have already reached 85% on 3 hour usage... as apps are more ram hungry, the phone probably get run slow soon.
3rd: some cheap flagship phone are just 300$ price range, quite cheap
4th: i did had a bad experience on previous nexus 5. i took the phone to a repair shop... but seem the shop installed me a knock off battery, the battery die after 3 months of repair. and i knew huawei didnt put the battery to the market.. i wonder how those shop people get the official battery for u to install? or they are fake at the beginning?
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I was just saying you shouldn't have to put up with a 2 hr SOT for a primary flagship (yes such primary devices are typically designed to remain a primary 1-2 yrs max), if it will be a secondary used primarily at home that's another story but I wouldn't just assume other components will fail. Android manages ram, 85%-95% of 3GB RAM could still be efficient use of available RAM unless everything gets sluggish but you could always reboot. There are other cheap powerful devices now you could consider. I don't think any place will warranty an installed battery's performance for more than 3 months but hopefully it won't get as bad as fast as the initial battery but might depending on charge cycles. This whole discussion would be far easier if consumers could just pop a $ 10 battery themselves in under a minute but manufacturers don't seem to care to offer that anymore..

SMARTPHONEPC said:
I was just saying you shouldn't have to put up with a 2 hr SOT for a primary flagship (yes such primary devices are typically designed to remain a primary 1-2 yrs max), if it will be a secondary used primarily at home that's another story but I wouldn't just assume other components will fail. Android manages ram, 85%-95% of 3GB RAM could still be efficient use of available RAM unless everything gets sluggish but you could always reboot. There are other cheap powerful devices now you could consider. I don't think any place will warranty an installed battery's performance for more than 3 months but hopefully it won't get as bad as fast as the initial battery but might depending on charge cycles. This whole discussion would be far easier if consumers could just pop a $ 10 battery themselves in under a minute but manufacturers don't seem to care to offer that anymore..
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if the user can replace the battery themselves, then i will be still using my nexus 5

mousefai0922 said:
if the user can replace the battery themselves, then i will be still using my nexus 5
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This discussion has made me think more about RAM however, I know I'm more chill now with my 16 GB RAM ultrabook over prior 4-8GB models that needed more of my attention to RAM management intervention-lookout for upgrades:
http://www.bgr.in/news/oneplus-5-6gb-ram-vs-8gb-ram-performance-comparison/
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5-do-you-really-need-8gb-ram-phone

SMARTPHONEPC said:
This discussion has made me think more about RAM however, I know I'm more chill now with my 16 GB RAM ultrabook over prior 4-8GB models that needed more of my attention to RAM management intervention-lookout for upgrades:
http://www.bgr.in/news/oneplus-5-6gb-ram-vs-8gb-ram-performance-comparison/
https://www.androidcentral.com/oneplus-5-do-you-really-need-8gb-ram-phone
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3gb on 6p is enough for now... But not sure about the future.....
2 yrs lifespan on a smartphone, I thiNk is well used

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Larger capacity battery from HTC

Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.
That would be amazing!
Ain't gonna happen, thats my guess.
HTC don't win anything with this and i don't think its even possible because of the fixed alu. housing. They can't make it bigger.
New phones arrive soon, so they not gonna put effort in making a bigger battery.
My 2 cents.
Post a link with that info.
i hope they do come out with that. it should be 1500 mah in the first place
I emailed HTC about a month ago, Nada. But they said they're investigating the battery life
I saw some batteries on Ebay, but I think they are cheap batteries, it can be dangerous...
don't trust the third party batteries, they don't perform well.
mjehan said:
Hi,
i read somewhere (French source) that HTC was going to release a larger capacity (rumoured 1450mAH) battery in the next 2 month for the DHD. Can anyone confirm this ?
German HTC have refused to comment on it.
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I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.
Wekko306 said:
I really doubt it. Also, 1450mAh would only be an increase of 18% of capacity. Of course any increase would be nice, but current battery tech coupled with the alu housing just doesn't allow for much higher capacity batteries than stock for the DHD.
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I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.
This is not an htc brand. There is a thread discussing screen issues that was caused by a similar battery expanding after several charges and pressing against the screen. Personally I would stay clear of non branded battery - its not worth the risk.
Htcpedia is not related to htc.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk
Howling Wolf said:
I can confirm a new "Replacement Battery for Desire HD" is available, the very same size to fit in the unibody, and it is 1600mAh, you read well. I ordered one about 10 days ago, they tried to deliver it today, but I wasn't home, so I have to go to the Post Office tomorrow.
You can order it from HTCPedia:
http://shop.htcpedia.com/inspire-4g-desire-hd-extended-battery-1600mah.html
But I found it cheaper, here:
http://www.htcrepairparts.com/standard-battery-for-htc-desire-hd1600mah-p-3411.html?language=en
I'll report back about it towards the end of the week.
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These aren't official HTC batteries and if they are similar to the ones being discussed, endlessly, in the accessories section are inferior to the stock HTC batteries and unlikely to offer any gain in battery life, but please report back but give the batteries at least 7-10 days of normal use before offering any realistic feedback.
Well, you managed to scare me... I thought HTCPedia was serious enough not to sell or advertise garbage.
It cost me less than 20€ (about 28 USD). I'll give it a try around 7-10 days right, but will most probably remove it if I encounter screen issues.
Yep picture looks exactly like the one I got from a UK supplier and has swollen enough to press against the inside of the phone
Did it last longer. Ermm yes and probably about 30% longer but over the two months I have had it performance has dropped below that of the original so personally I have been unsuccessful and will be sticking with the original HTC one
Id buy this but the battery life isnt as bad as it used to be. Its probably got something to do with HTC shipping their batteries uncalibrated or maybe Im just getting used to owning a smartphone
Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..
Just do some tweak and it will save ur battery life longer..bigger capacity just giving it more juicer but that is not far different from original. I think just flash to new recommended ROM + Radio to get the best result
Battery lasts nearly 2 days for me with moderate use on standard HTC battery.
You just got to get the phone set up right or go the custom rom route to get even better battery life.
FManning23 said:
Isn't there a new nano technology available that can store more mAh? Maybe thats what there aiming for? They will profit from it because many would buy an Official battery with mor mAh..
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Net yet.. Battery Technology has hit a brick wall at the moment and basically what you have now is the best out there...
However there are some clever stuff happening. There is one which I particularly from last year
http://www.greenmuze.com/climate/energy/2761-mit-nanotube-batteries-.html
However we are still at least 5 years away from this entering the market in my opinion...
Just try and buy an extra battery if you really need more juice

No removable battery = planned obsolescence = more future sales for Samsung

Isn't it obvious? Battery is basically the only thing that degrades significantly after one years time, and by making it non-removable, Samsuck can generate more sales and keep their shareholders happy and CEO gets to keep their job.
Samsuck don't give a sht about consumers like us, they only care about sales figure.
Well, technically you can replace battery in an iphone, you just need a suction tool to pry the phone apart, and then you have to pretty much disassemble the whole phone to get to the battery but you could do it. It is entirely possible you will be able to do the same with Samsung, that is unless Samsung decides to go nuclear and designs a case that cannot be disassembled without being destroyed in the process - I guess we'll have to wait for an ifixit guide.
However, in the spirit, I agree with you, most consumers won't go that far to replace an aging battery, so it is planned obsolescence.
Lol. Yea. That's it...replacing the entire phone because the battery loses an hour or 2 charge time. Sneaky Samsung!
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Lol. Yea. That's it...replacing the entire phone because the battery loses an hour or 2 charge time. Sneaky Samsung!
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Long live the warranty
kuromusha38 said:
Isn't it obvious? Battery is basically the only thing that degrades significantly after one years time, and by making it non-removable, Samsuck can generate more sales and keep their shareholders happy and CEO gets to keep their job.
Samsuck don't give a sht about consumers like us, they only care about sales figure.
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This is where the biggest downside is. Everyone is pushing for turbo chargers and wireless charging, but both cause your phone to heat up a lot, and we all know that heat degrades battery performance. Constant fast charging and the heat of wireless charging is going to make the battery die even faster.
It's like we are going back to a more disposable phone like the Nokia bricks of old. However, the more people get in on a one-year upgrade cycle, the less a degrading battery will be an issue.
natefish said:
It's like we are going back to a more disposable phone like the Nokia bricks of old. However, the more people get in on a one-year upgrade cycle, the less a degrading battery will be an issue.
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For people that keep their phone for several years or used phone buyers the battery issue will be a nightmare.
I think my habit of switching phones is a quicker factor for planned obsolescence
they are probably thinking that the reason why galaxy sales are down is in part to the capability of replacing the battery, which is a valid point. Im the perfect example, im still rocking the S3 but im still on the original battery (almost 3 yrs old)
Planned obsolescence, Datsun tried that in the UK, they made the cars rust faster (you couldn't make this stuff up) by putting cardboard inside the door skin, the intention and the reality was to rust the car, they thought if it didn't last that people would keep buying new ones!
They didn't......
"Degrades significantly" after a year huh?? My Gnex is still running like a champ on the same battery nearly 3 1/2 years later.
I dont understand why people worry too much about battery, LG, Google, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Microsoft and many more, Samsung is last in this league to remove removable from flagship model
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Currently there are no real world reviews of battery life for the S6. So, any battery life woes are premature, at best. Not to say they aren't warranted, but until real world numbers start coming in, we shouldn't rush to judgement just yet. Plus, the majority of phones are being made without removable batteries (Z3, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, HTC One series (M7-9), LG G2, Motorola E/G/X to name a few...I won't mention that company from Cupertino...), and while reviews mention it, they don't harp on lack of removable battery. It just boils down to personal preference. I remember the heated debates 5 years ago, when the slide-out qwerty was going the way of the dodo. Now, no one mentions it anymore.
Plus, all phones are made for planned obsolescence. Even Sony wanted to release a new flagship model every 6 months.
Battery life in the S6 will probably be on par with other smartphones. And the battery will last for many many charge cycles. For heavy users, no phone will get them through the day. But with the amount of accessories people buy for their phones, I have no doubt the aftermarket will be there to help you alleviate your battery woes.
A Rant Thread that has gone Off Topic and Degenerated. Time to Take a Break.
Thread Closed.

A brief comparison of popular phones

I had a Droid Turbo for 1.5 years that got great battery life. I am a power user, and averaged between 4 and 4.5 hrs of SOT in a 16 hour day.
For no good reason, I decided it was time to get a new phone, and I chose the S7e SD 820 model based on the reviews. While the phone is pretty, there were two dealbreakers for me. First, the Edge screen is too sensitive given the way I hold a phone, even when using a case. I'd constantly open apps on the left side of the screen by accident. Or worse, make weird typos in emails. The second, and bigger issue, is mentioned ad nauseum on this forum - the US version has major Android System battery drain that has not been addressed. I spent hours and hours trying to get in touch with someone who could help me at Samsung. I was promised callbacks, fixes, etc.. But when there was no follow through and I'd call back, they acted like nobody had ever reported the problem before. I then tried tweeting Samsung support, and they responded... By telling me that their customer service dept on Twitter has absolutely no way to contact someone who can solve the android system issue. Finally, after calling several times, I got in touch w a US based tier 2 tech support agent, who also told me the issue had never been reported. He had an S7 on hand, picked it up, and noted that there was definitely a problem. He put in a ticket but said it wouldn't be addressed until enough people complained to trip their system. Given the challenges of dealing w Samsung, and my big priority of having a long lasting battery, I finally gave up hope and returned my s7e to Verizon. This is the first time in 20 years of cell phones that I've ever made a return.
I wanted my Droid Turbo back, but unfortunately, I turned that in when I got the S7e. So, I decided to get a DT2. I'd call it a fine phone. Nothing special that differentiated it from the original for me. In fact, battery life for me averaged about 3.5-4 hrs SOT, less than the original. If I'm going to spend $700 on a new phone it has to be significantly better than my previous one in the category that's most important to me, which is battery life. I don't watch much video on my phone, but I definitely use apps intermittently throughout the day, including FB, Instagram, Bumble, TouchDown and Feedly. Since those don't need anything special in terms of graphics, my only goal was to get more device use time than the DT. Since that wasn't happening, I've now purchased a Nexus 6p.
From reading the forums, it sounds like Google is much more responsive to issues because this phone is running stock Android. While the processor is a generation dated from the S7e, I do appreciate that Google will update much faster than Samsung, who barely acknowledged a battery issue affecting 100% of US phones. I've now installed everything on my 6p, and am in the middle of testing it for "normal use" (meaning, how I use the phone, which may or may not reflect the norm). If this phone doesn't get better battery life than the DT, then I'm going to return it, call it a day, and purchase another DT on ebay.
I'm sure for many of you screen pixels, camera and processor speed matter, but I don't watch much video, find almost all cell phone cameras provide pixelated photos, particularly in low light, and I never had any issue opening FB or emails at warp speed on my Turbo. I can't justify getting equal or less battery life for a phone that costs $500 more than the original DT.
Anyway, I'll give an update once I've had a few days with my 6p, but feel free to post your experiences if you've had any of these devices.
You should be able to get at least 6 to 8 hours SOT with the SD820 Edge, just look at this threat and try it. Despite your bad experience so far this S7 should easily obliterate your DT and 6p. It's just a shame 800 bucks doesn't work great straight out of the box like most Exynos do and how it should be. But even Exynos isn't perfect, e.g. my standby drain is slowly creeping upwards from 2% per night on the first day till 4% now, 2 weeks later. Without ever changing a setting. Not complaining though This phone has potential like no other phone in market does at this point in time.
I'd strongly doubt that any phone could average 6+ hrs of SoT unless you're on wifi and using the screen continuously. But again, everyone uses their phones differently. For me, it was the terrible Samsung support that made me throw in the towel. I agree that the phone has potential, but potential is just that. If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.
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If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.
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Touche

Is it time to move on?

What is the communities take on the battery and bootloop issue? Is it inevitable that every Nexus 6P will eventually had one of these issues?
My delema is that the LG G6 is on sale for $300, plus a free Google Home at US Cellular. It's the only carrier that gets service at my house. I know the Nexus 6P is by far the more "entertaining" phone, with all the development on it. Unfortunately this deal may be too good to pass up if I'm likely to have issues with the 6P in the future.
Can you post a link to this? I don't see it for 300 bucks anywhere.
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frigidazzi said:
Can you post a link to this? I don't see it for 300 bucks anywhere.
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https://www.uscellular.com/devices/phones/lg-g6-platinum.html?productId=prod9410143&customer-type=nc&skuType=financing&transactionType=addLine&monthsSelect=30&filters={%22category%22:[%22smartphone%22]}
Look at the 30 month installment pricing. $10/mo for 30 months is $300. Also shows the Google Home promotion on the page.
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https://www.uscellular.com/devices/phones/lg-g6-platinum.html?productId=prod9410143&customer-type=nc&skuType=financing&transactionType=addLine&monthsSelect=30&filters={%22category%22:[%22smartphone%22]}
Look at the 30 month installment pricing. $10/mo for 30 months is $300. Also shows the Google Home promotion on the page.
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That is a really tough call tbh. The screen and camera look great, but I don't have a lot of faith in lg tbh and I would worry about a lack of development, if that is an issue for you.
Nevertheless it looks like a great phone.
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https://www.uscellular.com/devices/...Select=30&filters={"category":["smartphone"]}
Look at the 30 month installment pricing. $10/mo for 30 months is $300. Also shows the Google Home promotion on the page.
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Oh. It's after monthly bill credits. So would have to stick with it and service for 30 months... It's basically a contract. You leave early then you pay more than 300.
After reading the forums, people sound really disappointed. I wouldn't do it op
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Oh. It's after monthly bill credits. So would have to stick with it and service for 30 months... It's basically a contract. You leave early then you pay more than 300.
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Actually the pricing stays the same no matter what installment you choose. US Cellular also states that early payoff does not incur additional fees, including the day of purchase. Only requirement is that it is activated on a post-paid line at time of purchase.
Just reporting back. I did pick it up. It is straight up $300 plus tax. They put it on an installment plan and you just pay it off right away. Also comes with a Google Home promo from LG and I got a $100 US Cellular giftcard. Still gonna keep the 6P for a month on Fi in case I don't like the LG. Can always sell it.
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Just reporting back. I did pick it up. It is straight up $300 plus tax. They put it on an installment plan and you just pay it off right away. Also comes with a Google Home promo from LG and I got a $100 US Cellular giftcard. Still gonna keep the 6P for a month on Fi in case I don't like the LG. Can always sell it.
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Let me know what you think after a couple days. It looks great but reviews on the forum made me apprehensive. I'm considering getting a new phone, and it will probably be an s8, though the g6 is a definite contender, and would save me a lot of money if I do decide to get a new one.
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Let me know what you think after a couple days. It looks great but reviews on the forum made me apprehensive. I'm considering getting a new phone, and it will probably be an s8, though the g6 is a definite contender, and would save me a lot of money if I do decide to get a new one.
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So far so good as far as the phone goes. Its really narrow, easy to message on. Going back to the Nexus is difficult ergonomically. The developer landscape is non-existant but it does look like the US Cellular variant probably has an unlocked bootloader. There is already a bounty on TWRP for the TMO variant. Im sure development will pick up once that gets working. Its a popular enough phone.
I've bought my used 6P 3 weeks ago. Battery life was terrible. The only issue. I was having 40-50% of my Nexus 5X life.
After putting a good battery (X-Longer model) in the 6P (last Friday), the phone recovered the original battery life and now I'm having like 25% more battery than my 5X.
So basically I have same battery life I used to have with the Z5 Compact. 4 hours and a full day are guaranteed no matter what you did (gaming....pure chrome browsing of whatever). Maybe 5 hours or 6 if you like to watch videos o too much reading.
I would only upgrade to a Pixel if I wanted a smaller phone. But now that I'm adapting to this phablet...maybe I won't upgrade it before Android P is. released, since it will get O.
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It seems like these will all be dead within a couple years but only time will tell for sure. Still, I don't expect mine to last more than a few months once my warranty expires in July.
thesebastian said:
I've bought my used 6P 3 weeks ago. Battery life was terrible. The only issue. I was having 40-50% of my Nexus 5X life.
After putting a good battery (X-Longer model) in the 6P (last Friday), the phone recovered the original battery life and now I'm having like 25% more battery than my 5X.
So basically I have same battery life I used to have with the Z5 Compact. 4 hours and a full day are guaranteed no matter what you did (gaming....pure chrome browsing of whatever). Maybe 5 hours or 6 if you like to watch videos o too much reading.
I would only upgrade to a Pixel if I wanted a smaller phone. But now that I'm adapting to this phablet...maybe I won't upgrade it before Android P is. released, since it will get O.
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I think I'm going to try a battery replacement. Accubattery says mine is near full capacity but I still get terrible battery life and bad standby battery drain.
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I think I'm going to try a battery replacement. Accubattery says mine is near full capacity but I still get terrible battery life and bad standby battery drain.
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There's no need to change battery if accubattery shows full capacity. It would make no difference at all
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There's no need to change battery if accubattery shows full capacity. It would make no difference at all
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Accubattery isn't very precise, and a badly made battery could still drain quicker
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I think I'm going to try a battery replacement. Accubattery says mine is near full capacity but I still get terrible battery life and bad standby battery drain.
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Yes but consider that accubattery was calculating my battery as 2000 mAh / 3450 mAh. And this without considering that the old battery was turning off between 10-25%
That's why in the end I've ended​ up with more than 120% increase in battery life with the new battery.
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Accubattery isn't very precise, and a badly made battery could still drain quicker
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Why you think this? Accubattery is really accurate in my experience. I always used that, you can calculate the capacity manually too. And a defective battery is not going to show you more than it can actually hold so if your battery has an high health it's ok and you don't need to change the battery. Anyway the phone is yours and if you want go ahead and open it but the 6p is really difficult to open and a damage could cost you around 20 bucks for the plastic and glass panel.. And finally you could end up installing a worse battery than the one inside
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Yet another battery drain victim - Problems with new battery too

Hi everybody,
I've been following this great site for a long time, but this is my first post.
I'm one of the unhappy owner of a Nexus 6P with severe battery drainage. I've read plenty of threads on this topic both on this site and others, but some issues are still unclear to me.
The battery performance had been worsening since last September, with an increasing pace up to the point that last month the phone would turn off between 76% and 45%. The drainage was also extremely fast, going from full charge to 70% in half an hour of medium usage.
So I finally made up my mind and decided to change the battery. Last week I brought it to an electronic shop that I trust and they replaced the battery. I hadn't read about the fake batteries yet, and I didn't warn nor asked the guy at the shop about them - but as I said I think he's reliable.
Up to this point, nothing new.
I've had the new battery for three days, but the problems remain, same as before. I am quite puzzled, as I think that even with a fake battery there's no way to get same performance as before. The drainage is as bad as before and so the early shutdown (I reached once the 33%, but still not good and may have happened also with the old battery). AccuBattery says the battery health is 26%, but it is still a rough estimate as it had only 4 cycles.
So my questions are:
1. Do I need to wait some more days for the new battery to adjust before losing every hope?
2. As I was travelling, I could only wipe the cache. I'm gonna try a factory reset, could it help?
3. Do I need to take some extra precautions in order not to "burn" the new battery? As it is lasting as long as the old one, I need to recharge it every 3h more or less or use a battery pack (that I hate) and I think it is not good.
I cannot ask a replacement from Google as I live outside the US.
Thanks for any help you can give me.
@Paul_test even the new batteries can have issues with the 6p. I went through a couple from eBay before I got one that was solid. The shops needs to test the phone with some battery drain apps first to make sure before they put it back together.
Exodusche said:
@Paul_test even the new batteries can have issues with the 6p. I went through a couple from eBay before I got one that was solid. The shops needs to test the phone with some battery drain apps first to make sure before they put it back together.
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Thanks Exodusche. Unfortunately, I was in Spain at the time and they returned it to me the day I was leaving, so I hadn't the time to test.
So the "fake" batteries are complete crap? not just lower capacity I guess.
Did anyone come up with an explanation for this drainage problem? I mean, is it an hardware issue?
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Thanks Exodusche. Unfortunately, I was in Spain at the time and they returned it to me the day I was leaving, so I hadn't the time to test.
So the "fake" batteries are complete crap? not just lower capacity I guess.
Did anyone come up with an explanation for this drainage problem? I mean, is it an hardware issue?
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If your on Oreo shouldn't have any drain unless your using apps like Facebook. I ordered so far 4 batteries from eBay and only the first one had issues. The rest preforming close to stock. If your unlocked an rooted can get app like wakelock and check if have any rogue apps. But if your having early shutdowns no brainer that it's the battery.
About 2 weeks ago I order a battery from Aliexpress (it was about $13) and did the replacement myself yesterday. It took about 3 hours of sweating and swearing - the videos on Youtube make it look SO easy. Part of the problem was that I didn't have the right tools but I improvised and managed to open the phone with very minor marks.
Regarding the battery, I bought the one that seemed the most popular (with 350+ 5 star reviews) but it is definitely not "legit" as the KC Certification number was "XX-XXXX-XXXX" and it is ever so slightly smaller than the original one, but there is a fabrication date on it and it indicates it was manufactured a few months ago, so that's a good thing I guess. The capacity is estimated at ~90% (of the advertised 3.450mAh) and the Screen On time varies from 4.5-5 hours, so I'm pretty happy with that, considering that I would get 2-2.5 hours with the same kind of usage on the old one. A minor inconvenience would be that the % indicator is not as accurate as before, for example jumping from 80 to 76% after I pick up the phone and use it for a while, but this might get better after the initial charge cycles, as well as the "health". Also, the phone is usable to the last 1%, no more sudden death.
So if you're not satisfied with the one you have now, I definitely recommend you get one from Aliexpress, as it comes (almost) directly from the manufacturer, unlike eBay or Amazon where you could pay double.
And maybe try to install it yourself?
Hi all. I admin a group of Nexus 6p Italian users. I quote all replies to the OP questions.
I just would like to add an information. I know some 6p owners that changed their barretu with this one:
https://www.amazon.it/dp/B01BHYLUUQ/ref=pe_3310731_185740161_TE_item
So far, they are happy. Of course you have to consider to change the battery by yourself.
The nexus 6p is still a solid device if you find a good battery. Good luck.
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I'm an admin of a Nexus 6p group of Italina users. I quote all answers to the OP question. I only add that I know some 6p users that replaced their battery with the one manufactured from "vhbw" (I can't post link because I'm new to XDA even if I follow XDA for a long time).
Just google "vhbw battery nexus 6p" if you are interested.
The Nexus 6p is still a solid device if you find a good battery. Good luck @Paul_test
skullzhunter said:
About 2 weeks ago I order a battery from Aliexpress (it was about $13) and did the replacement myself yesterday. It took about 3 hours of sweating and swearing - the videos on Youtube make it look SO easy. Part of the problem was that I didn't have the right tools but I improvised and managed to open the phone with very minor marks.
Regarding the battery, I bought the one that seemed the most popular (with 350+ 5 star reviews) but it is definitely not "legit" as the KC Certification number was "XX-XXXX-XXXX" and it is ever so slightly smaller than the original one, but there is a fabrication date on it and it indicates it was manufactured a few months ago, so that's a good thing I guess. The capacity is estimated at ~90% (of the advertised 3.450mAh) and the Screen On time varies from 4.5-5 hours, so I'm pretty happy with that, considering that I would get 2-2.5 hours with the same kind of usage on the old one. A minor inconvenience would be that the % indicator is not as accurate as before, for example jumping from 80 to 76% after I pick up the phone and use it for a while, but this might get better after the initial charge cycles, as well as the "health". Also, the phone is usable to the last 1%, no more sudden death.
So if you're not satisfied with the one you have now, I definitely recommend you get one from Aliexpress, as it comes (almost) directly from the manufacturer, unlike eBay or Amazon where you could pay double.
And maybe try to install it yourself?
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I was having some doubts about installing it as I don't have the right tools, but if you say you did even without them I can try as well. Also, my phone has already been opened so it may be easier now. I had a bad experience with a laptop display using Aliexpress, so I'd rather try first with the one suggested by luck.giak that is also cheap. Thanks!
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Hi all. I admin a group of Nexus 6p Italian users. I quote all replies to the OP questions.
I just would like to add an information. I know some 6p owners that changed their barretu with this one:
So far, they are happy. Of course you have to consider to change the battery by yourself.
The nexus 6p is still a solid device if you find a good battery. Good luck.
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I'm an admin of a Nexus 6p group of Italina users. I quote all answers to the OP question. I only add that I know some 6p users that replaced their battery with the one manufactured from "vhbw" (I can't post link because I'm new to XDA even if I follow XDA for a long time).
Just google "vhbw battery nexus 6p" if you are interested.
The Nexus 6p is still a solid device if you find a good battery. Good luck @Paul_test
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I'll definitely consider it, as it is also quite cheap. I totally agree that it would still be a very nice phone, but these battery problems make it unusable. I'll give it one last try. Thanks!
Paul_test said:
I'll definitely consider it, as it is also quite cheap. I totally agree that it would still be a very nice phone, but these battery problems make it unusable. I'll give it one last try. Thanks!
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Your welcome, be careful to open you device. You need time and patience.
To be completely honest, I'm reporting to you experiences of other users. When I had the same issue three moths ago I contacted Amazon that refunded me completely. My 6p was 1.5 years old and I was upset to change that phone so quickly (according to my standard). I considered the barety replacement by myself but finally I have to say that the refund was the right option --> Now I'm more than happy with my new BQ Aquarius X2 pro.

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