All,
I've noticed a startling trend by the resellers of cell phones for the S7 Active.
The S7 Active has a two-layer screen - the top layer is supposed to be replaceable if it crackes, thereby saving you a expensive repair.
Unfortunately, these scrupulous resellers are removing this second layer, exposing the screen itself, which is much more fragile.
You can tell this in listings by looking to see if the earpiece speaker and buttons look "raised" in the pictures provided. They should be nearly flush if the second layer piece is in place.
For example, Swappa has a seller in NY right now that is selling "mint" S7 Actives, and all of his phones have the second layer of the screen removed. Samsung no longer sells this second layer, so you would have to put down a tempered layer to help protect the screen, and even then there are no guarantees it will provide the proper protection.
Buyer beware, just a FYI.
Chris
I just bought one of these and I can confirm that the outer screen is removed. I'm returning it now and will update with what the seller has to say. I wish I had your sharp eye and noticed this in the pictures, looking back it is noticeable.
I bought it 8 days ago. Didn't even notice it. I'm. Just going to buy a tempered glass above it. Too lazy to deal with it now, I'm overall satisfied with the phone.
That's good to be aware of, but not really a deal breaker, or wouldn't be for me. I leveraged the tendency of the factory screen protector to scratch to purchase a cheap phone off e-bay. I'd find the one with the worst looking screen with okay looking everything else then when I got the phone, removed the plastic layer and replaced it with glass. That was a year ago and I've been happy ever since.
My point is that those thick plastic protectors would look like crap not long after purchase so you are better without them. The glass is still gorilla, the edges of the screen are raised into a lip to protect it and you can add a sacrificial glass protector yourself. If the price is cheap, I'd buy one.
I think it all comes down to what your expectations are of "like new" or "mint". Personally, I would want the factory second layer that has the proper material for protection. I returned a phone on eBay as it was listed as brand new - literally "new in box". Lots of resellers out there taking advantage.
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Thanks for the heads up. I wouldn't have known any better if I hadn't come across this post. I bought one off ebay from the seller emb-phones which shipped out of Brooklyn, New York. I can also confirm the phone is missing the second layer mentioned in this first post of this forum. I would like you share pics but i guess i haven't hit the 10 post requirement yet :/. I'll come back and figure out a way to post pics some other time.
Qualitycells on Swappa is selling their Mint condition S7 Actives without the factory protector. I've contacted them about my device, not really hopeful that they will do anything though.
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cdunbar said:
I just bought one of these and I can confirm that the outer screen is removed. I'm returning it now and will update with what the seller has to say. I wish I had your sharp eye and noticed this in the pictures, looking back it is noticeable.
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I returned the phone I received without the outer screen. My concern is it may affect the water-proofing and it is against Swappa rules to sell a modified phone. They should at least admit it and let the buyer make an informed decision. I asked "QualityCells" if they could provide an unmodified phone and they could/would not. They did give me a full refund and paid return shipping. Unfortunately Swappa did not seem interested that one of their sellers is doing this. It wasted a lot of my time.
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IGNORE: Checked your actual post and found the One Drive like to the photo. All good.
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I can't see this photo. Can you imgur it and attach a link? Thanks!
Discussion with ebay seller about this issue...
Thanks for bringing this to light; I recently bought an S7 Active from an eBay seller much like emb-phones (in this case syncelectronic), and found that the screen layer had indeed been removed. At least the glass underneath was in perfect condition! I brought this to their attention and they claimed to not realize this as they buy them at auction in quantity; they asked what they can do and I said I wanted them to refund me $11.99 so I can get a tempered glass protector to install in place of the polycarbonate that was removed, and that they change their ad to reflect that this protective layer has been removed.
Other than that, the phone was indeed in the condition described, and I would have put a screen protector on anyway, but I DO wish the ad reflected that actual situation, so we will see what they come back with.
I got one also from eBay, i paid $110 for it with NEW screen thats missing the second layer but hey, it works fine, i've added the tempered glass on top and a discrete cover and its a great phone.. Sure u have to be careful about dropping it but isnt that with 99% of phones these days? I tried finding a OEM replacement screen for this phone but no luck and the screen is the phone so if you get a pink line or 'store display model' shadow burn in then the phone is garbage. I really liked my S5 Active, its smaller and screen size is the same as S7 but unfortunately, it stops on 6.0.
To sum this up, its a hit or miss with these, if the seller is honest and the LCD is clean, then you get a great phone for a tenth of its original price. My S7 Active works well so far, i work outside and sweat a lot here in Florida and the phone is exposed to sand and lots of moist sweat and no issues for the past 4 months, even with the 1/2 screen on it.
can we see pictures of what you mean?
no ****... look at what I found...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4LUgs5jYkI
I believe when I bought mine, it was in mine shame... but had a layer missing. No worries- tampered glass protector solves the problem.
Interesting... Just bought an S7 Active on eBay for $60, let's see if it has the layer...
LCD + Digitizer (Gorilla Glass 4) + Protective Polycarbonate Layer!
Buy a phone with a scratched poly layer, remove it, add a 9H screen protector.
This isn't rocket science.
Geeesh ... Panic and mayhem over a stupid poly layer ..... S8 Active has the same treatment, and Gorilla Glass 5.
https://www.cio.com/article/3079219/hardware/samsungs-new-water-resistant-galaxy-s7-active-survives-severe-crash-tests.html
https://www.slashgear.com/galaxy-s8-active-has-a-plastic-screen-protector-on-top-of-gorilla-glass-25516999/
You don't get it. It isn't "panic" about missing a screen protector, it's misleading the buyer. That is why I posted this months ago.
If a screen layer was originally removed, it was either cracked or scratched beyond belief. To me, that means the phone had a rough life.
If you spend $50 on a S7 active and the layer is missing, I wouldn't care. But if a seller advertises "NEW" (unused) old stock, and that layer is missing, that is a problem. THAT is why I posted this.
Have a great day, UnableToResetOldProfile.
Chris
CFoote said:
All,
I've noticed a startling trend by the resellers of cell phones for the S7 Active.
The S7 Active has a two-layer screen - the top layer is supposed to be replaceable if it crackes, thereby saving you a expensive repair.
Unfortunately, these scrupulous resellers are removing this second layer, exposing the screen itself, which is much more fragile.
You can tell this in listings by looking to see if the earpiece speaker and buttons look "raised" in the pictures provided. They should be nearly flush if the second layer piece is in place.
For example, Swappa has a seller in NY right now that is selling "mint" S7 Actives, and all of his phones have the second layer of the screen removed. Samsung no longer sells this second layer, so you would have to put down a tempered layer to help protect the screen, and even then there are no guarantees it will provide the proper protection.
Buyer beware, just a FYI.
Chris
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Thank you for your insight!
I recently bought a refurbished device that was advertised as having a perfect 10/10 screen, but is clearly missing the outer layer, and the screen is showing random pink line as well that comes and go. Without your post, I would have I never understood how the LCD could have been damaged while the screen doesn't shows any scratches at all. Contacting them now for a replacement now!
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haha ^^ invisible**
i dont know if this has been discussed before but.. has any one used the invisible shield for the xperia?
ok so i wanted to know what and how the invisible shield is like on the xperia
and to my surprise my girlfriend got it for my birthday yesterday! and here are the pics in hi-res...
it is really hard to take pictures of it as you guys know it is clear.
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it covers:
the battery cover
the camera and most of the space around it.
the lower back(where the speaker is)
it tries to cover the chrome strip of the keyboard part
and it covers the front where the camera is.
it lacks a lot of coverage for the front
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haha ^^ invisible**
i dont know if this has been discussed before but.. has any one used the invisible shield for the xperia?
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Currently, it is not available in Singapore yet so no comments.
I've heard mixed reviews about this product, but I'm also waiting for my order to come in sometime this week so I can try it out. You've already seen it on Youtube or read reviews about it, but you won't know until you try it out yourself I guess. Hope that some of us will be able to answer your question soon.
I have mine in front of me, right now. It arrived this afternoon, so i am just thinking about fitting it, either tonite, or in the morning.
It cost me $24.95, and took 4 days to be shipped from US to UK.
As soon as i have fitted it, and tested it for a bit, I will post here, and let you know what i think of it.
What i do know, at the moment, is, The screen protector that is on the phone at the moment, (Carphone Warehouse own brand) Is a worthless piece of ****e. I find using the stylus comes naturally to me, so the screen gets a lot of stylus work done to it, and the screen protector on now is scratched to buggery.
So, I will be quite interested to see how the invisible shield is after a couple of weeks.
Will let you know.
Cheers.
I'm interested in getting one so waiting for your sharing...
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I have mine in front of me, right now. It arrived this afternoon, so i am just thinking about fitting it, either tonite, or in the morning.
It cost me $24.95, and took 4 days to be shipped from US to UK.
As soon as i have fitted it, and tested it for a bit, I will post here, and let you know what i think of it.
What i do know, at the moment, is, The screen protector that is on the phone at the moment, (Carphone Warehouse own brand) Is a worthless piece of ****e. I find using the stylus comes naturally to me, so the screen gets a lot of stylus work done to it, and the screen protector on now is scratched to buggery.
So, I will be quite interested to see how the invisible shield is after a couple of weeks.
Will let you know.
Cheers.
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Could you tell us exactly which parts the invisible shield covers? Im really interested about whether or not that chrome strip going around the phone is protected.
Looking at the sheet of parts i have here, i would say yes, the shiny narrow band round the side of the phone will be covered.
From what i can tell, by logical deduction, i think 95% of the phone, when the slider is closed, will be covered. There are no parts, whatsoever, for the keyboard, or other exposed areas, when the slider is open.
I will attempt to fit it all tomorrow, and report back.
Can you post a pic of the main screen area?
OK.
Have done the invisible shield fitting, and have to say, i'm a bit dissapointed with it.
As the above poster states, there is still quite an area of the phone that is not covered at all, however, most of the main "scratchable" areas are protected.
To attempt to list;- The battery cover, 99% covered.
The screen 99% covered.
The Camera lens etc, 90% covered.
Front Top (above screen) 75% covered.
Bottom 60% covered.
Top 60% covered.
There is absolutely no coverage of any parts exposed when slid open.
There is no coverage at either side of the screen, nor the sides of the screen section of the phone.
The material used does seem quite robust, but it is early days, and, as a stylus user, i will have to let time tell on my screen, how well it lasts.
The kit is pretty easy to fit, and it can be done by anybody.
I will report back after a few days of usage.
I'm interested most in the screen part. Is it really immune to scratch as advertised? From the outside look how is it compared to Martin Field?
astral1 said:
OK.
Have done the invisible shield fitting, and have to say, i'm a bit dissapointed with it.
As the above poster states, there is still quite an area of the phone that is not covered at all, however, most of the main "scratchable" areas are protected.
To attempt to list;- The battery cover, 99% covered.
The screen 99% covered.
The Camera lens etc, 90% covered.
Front Top (above screen) 75% covered.
Bottom 60% covered.
Top 60% covered.
There is absolutely no coverage of any parts exposed when slid open.
There is no coverage at either side of the screen, nor the sides of the screen section of the phone.
The material used does seem quite robust, but it is early days, and, as a stylus user, i will have to let time tell on my screen, how well it lasts.
The kit is pretty easy to fit, and it can be done by anybody.
I will report back after a few days of usage.
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i just ordered this today and im paying a premium.. more then the cost since im ordering it through another means... this is not sounding good for me? can you please keep us informed...also how is the scree n protetector sufficient? i plan to use it with my thumb and not stylus? is it too grippy?
When I say i'm a bit dissapointed, i mean that i thought more of the phone body would have been covered. As it is, there is still quite an amount of that shiny bit round the sides of the phone which is unprotected. Also, either side of the screen is unprotected.
The plastic material, i am quite confident about. It will do its job fine.
I have been using the stylus, (and a pencil) on the screen for about a day and a half, now, and i cant detect a single mark on the screen film.
If you look carefully at the 1st posters photo album, you can see where the gaps are in some of the film sections.
Wait so the chrome strip ISNT protected?
Also.. how did you go about installing the screen part? I was always worried about that liquid leaking into the phone :|
Ok invisible shield for the xperia SUCKS big time. Not only does it not cover the entire front face plate or the chrome part, but When I applied it to my battery cover, i noticed that I had some excess bubbles so i tried peeling it back a little to squeegy them and the xperia logo actually started to rip off! So now I have no choice but to keep the invisible shield on the battery cover so that the logo doesn't come off. Also I would never recommend putting it on the rubbery parts of the phone as it won't adhere as well as the smooth parts of the phone, I really expected more out of this product, but for the xperia it sucks.
can someone else confirm what this guy is saying^ should i ditch the full body protection and go martin fields?
does the screen protection work good though n4v1n?
O.K. after a bit more use, i can solidly say that i'm happy with the screen protector part of the invisible shield.
After several days use with the stylus, and a sharp pencil, i cannot detect any scratches on the film.
I still cant quite decide whether to leave some of the other parts on or rip em off, tho.
I think in some places, it spoils the look of the phone, but i want the protection it offers.
N4v1n,
Cant you use the liquid in the spray bottle, that comes with the invisible shield, to help peel off the film?
does it really peel off the xperia writing on the battery cover? Does it damage any of the other paint?
The damage had already been done the spray can't help me in peeling it off, If I do peel it of I will be missing at least 2 letters from the xperia logo. I didn't use the shield on any other part of the phone. I didn't buy for the screen protector as I use pdair for that, I have all the other parts of the shield but I am not going to use any of them as they are not made very well in terms of cut. The shield did not damage the paint afaik.
OMG! This thing is horrible!
I've previously used ppctechs.com write shield, which is far, far superior to this crap.
First off, this thing didn't even stand up to me ripping it off to wash off some dust that had attached itself to the underside. The corner that I carefully pulled back to pull it off is stretched out and flimsy. (Yes, I used the solution. It helped zilch in removing the protector from the screen.)
It's sticky when using (even after 24 hours). Really frustrating to use when thumbing through touchFlo or anything else for that matter.
It's nearly impossible to wash anything off of it (sticky side). I had a piece of dust get underneath when applying the thing and when trying to wash it off I had to use my fingernail to scratch it off which scratched the sticky residue underneath leaving a distinct marking under it. UGH.
Worst $30 bucks I ever spent...
I need comparisons! So if anyone has both, please please pleases post a review with some pics!
(According to the reviews I read)
invisibleSHIELD:
Full body - $24.95 /w free shipping (Quantity: 1)
Thinner than Bodyguardz
Less pieces
Lifetime warranty
Bodyguardz
Full body - $24.95 /w free shipping (Quantity: 2)
A bit thicker and has more grip to it
A little more difficult than invisibleSHIELD to put on
Lifetime warranty
20% off anything from Bodyguardz after ordering
Ghost Armor
**Coming Soon**
Pictures:
invisibleSHIELD: (Thanks to paperdimension)
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Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4
Bodyguardz: (Thanks to bodyguardz.com!)
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Feel free to post and I'll add. This is just to tell the difference. I'll add more brands if people add reviews and such.
Opinions:
-Bodyguardz is tougher and protects better because it's thicker
Customer Experiences:
-Bodyguardz was fast and without problem
-invisibleSHIELD had horrible CS and I returned my product
I only have bodygaurdz, at first I didn't like it, but after a week or so the small imperfections cleared up, it's kinda growing on me. I also have some ghost armor that I am going to install this weekend.
Is it possible for you to take close up pictures and show the parts that aren't covered? Also, have you dropped it yet? Did it protect your device?
There's also clear-coat, which is $25 with lifetime warranty.
I've had invisibleshields for my tablet pc, but hated it. Their warranty is a little tricky, since they won't honor mistakes, whereas clearcoat will.
I could be wrong, but i've read somewhere that invis does not have a different version for the fuze, but just sell the ones for the gsm touch pro.
Whether I'm right or wrong, the fact is that clearcoat accounts for the physical differences:
1) We do account for the PTT button. We use a series of strips to cover the corners and sides - so we altered one of these strips to account for the PTT Button.
2) The back cover is one piece, and also has flaps extending from it to cover the sides and top as well. We have had no problem with the multi-faceted back - the 1-piece design still covers all the angled edges perfectly, with no creasing or bubbling.
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Do all of these cover the hardware buttons below the screen, including the entire scroll wheel? Mine already has light scratches in the center of that bowl shaped button and I want to prevent further damage.
I lik the feel of invisi, havent tried any others. But i want something thats easy to put on as well, invisi for the fuze is hard, same for the tilt, but on my wing it was easy as pie.
Thats because the wing had different material, its not really a slick plastic which probably made it alot easier. Clear coat is definitely new to me, but guardz gives you 2 so thats hot for me.
Pictures of IS on Fuze
Hi all,
I posted pictures of my Fuze with IS (Full Body).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453332
**UPDATED!**
Added pics of invisibleSHIELD and Bodyguardz
My Personal Opinion:
invisibleSHIELD looks much thinner and doesn't look like it fits the fuze correctly
Bodyguardz looks MUCH tougher and it seems to cover more area so that's a go for me and I just ordered it right now! Just check the pictures and see.
A bit disappointed that it doesn't cover the corners, but then again, that was expected.
Nice posts
I was looking for a post like this two weeks ago, thanks for making it Kraize. Will add my 2 cents to the discussion.
I ordered Fuze invisibleSHIELD last week, will install next week.
I noticed that paperdimension has the PTT button self-cut and has the camera hole. Is that Touch Pro version or Fuze version? I also noticed that invisibleSHIELD provides a center button cover. Nice! I can't tell from the pictures if Bodyguardz does too.
I heard invisibleSHIELD/Bodyguardz exhibit an orange peel effect on the screen. This may or may not be only on the iPhone's glass screen. We have plastic, so it might not be that bad. It doesn't look horrible in paperdimension's pictures. Bodyguardz doesn't have a clear picture of the screen itself, so I can't tell. If it's really bad, that's a deal breaker for me since I'm really ocd about my gadgets
Example of orange peel effect: http://justanotheriphoneblog.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/orange001.jpg
I'm actually really happy with the Fuze's included screen protector. Fits extremely well and is extremely smooth and shiny (I love the smooth look very much). The smooth effect aids in smooth gliding for fingernail/stylus navigation. It is cut so well that, after putting it on, I can't even tell that there is a protector. Sadly, there are already three scratches on the protector so I will need to replace it when it gets really bad. Is there a place to order the OEM screen protectors?
I used to have a Pelican screen protector on my PSP. I used that for a year until I replaced it with a Hori screen protector from Japan. Both cost $5. OMG the difference between Pelican and Hori was night and day. The Pelican screen protector distorted colors and images. The Hori screen protector resulted in vibrant colors, crisp and clear pixels. It was like a brand new PSP screen. Sadly, as far as I know, Hori doesn't make a Touch Pro/Fuze screen protector.
From my PSP research, Martin Fields also makes expensive but good/clear protectors. It turns out they also have a Touch Pro protector. (http://www.martinfields.com/US/productdec.asp?pid=4100&modeln=&model=) Anybody have experience with this one?
EDIT: Found a thread in X1 comparing Martin Fields with InvisibleSHIELD (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446228). I think I will leave on the OEM screen protector, add the InvisibleShield to the back/sides when it arrives, and replace the OEM screen protector with a Martin Fields when the OEM protector collects too many scratches... Pricey, but I like my screens shiny and clear =)
I think i might buy the guardz, i hope its easier to put on than the invisi. Wanna give a way your code Kraize b4 i order lol? But as far as the thickness goes it gives the phone a wonderful feel after you put it on.
xboxhaxorz said:
I think i might buy the guardz, i hope its easier to put on than the invisi. Wanna give a way your code Kraize b4 i order lol? But as far as the thickness goes it gives the phone a wonderful feel after you put it on.
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Sorry, bodyguardz doesn't give you an coupon code. I mean it only allows you to get that discount if you log in your account and order it
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Do all of these cover the hardware buttons below the screen, including the entire scroll wheel? Mine already has light scratches in the center of that bowl shaped button and I want to prevent further damage.
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Bump? Anyone?
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Bump? Anyone?
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read the thread, it was mentioned that IS includes a cover for the round button.
Thank you. What about the other 2 brands?
nice review, i ordered my bodyguardz yesterday and did next day shipping so should be here by 2morrow i will provide my customer exp with the full body guard
I also ordered them yesterday. I don't remember, but is the free shipping (USPS First class) next day shipping?
IS Fuze Version
In installed Fuze IS last night. Fit is slightly better than paperdimension's Touch Pro IS. Cut much closer for the Fuze. A noticeable difference is that paperdimension's version has the front layer folding over to cover the sides. The Fuze IS has separate pieces for the front and the sides.
Imo, provides better corner coverage in certain areas than Bodyguardz from what I see in this thread. Will post pictures in a week after it cures (extremely busy atm). You can be the judge then.
BodyGaurdz
I installed the BodyGaurdz last night on my TP. It did not come with a center button protector.
14 pieces to put on. It wasn't bad at all. I'm glad they sent 2 sets. Because I may need to redo the back. I have a couple of big bubbles that may not go away. The hardest one was the one for the buttons on the front. The bevel for the center button traps air bubbles. Very hard to push out.
The back has two pieces. One for the back plate and another for the camera strip.
I went through a whole bottle of solution (which is just water and baby shampoo).
IMO, Bodyguardz IS the way to fly, there customer service is above superior. If you take your time and install it the way the directions indicate, it fits perfectly. I did much of research regarding these film style protectors, and the bodyguardz seems to be the best value.
1. 2 sets for 24.99!!!!!!
2. Lifetime replacements
3. Discount for repeat customers.
4. Superior customer service (they actually care)
Gone are the days of "the customer is always correct". However Bodyguardz seems to be the exception to this. 24.99 is not much money, they could charge ALOT more and still be worth the price. This company really knows how to deliver and take care of a customer to maintain loyalty on both ends. I believe this is what is and will set Bodyguardz apart from the competition.
P.s. Ill copy what a previous poster already said.....
As far as ZAGG and the invisible shield goes.... Must be a damn good product because i cant even find the damn thing in my mail box, the bullsh*t tracking number is invisible also, fedex can't even seem to locate it. And that is the truth. Ordered from ZAGG and 3 months later, still no product and no refund.
FU*K YOU ZAGG
!!!!!!!!YEA BODYGUARDZ!!!!!!
well i just installed mines, i gotta say it took longer than i expected, there is alot of peices and the baby shampoo and water did help but some how got sticky ressude on the non sticky part of the protect how do i remove?
by the way this protect covers almost every part of ur phone expect the center button which i find is ackward since the center button is used more often than any other button but i guess since its a bit pushed into the phone alittle it will make it difficult to remove
also they said while removing the protector it could actually damage ur phone i guess cuz it sticks on there pretty tight so be very careful removing it, good thing i am paying for my insurance
Hey guys,
I just wanted to share my phone modification with everyone, in case any one was interested. I bought a N910F gold frame and put it on my T-Mobile Note 4. Here are the pictures of the results. Let me know if anyone is interested in doing this with their phone, and I'll be glad to explain the process (it's super easy). You can do any frame you want (white, black, and gold), although I haven't see a pink one for sale.
Pictures
That looks pretty sharp. How much was the frame?
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That looks pretty sharp. How much was the frame?
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Unfortunately, there's only ONE seller of the N910F frames that I could find, and that's a company called fonejoy. Their price was £45 (or $70) which was pretty steep considering the Chinese ones [which fit the Verizon model] are about $50. Also, my original frame is in mint condition (no scratches or anything), so it's resale value is around $40, if I were to sell it. I can also just put the old frame back on when I'm done with the phone and want to sell the phone itself, and the phone would be in mint condition, which increase resale value (over a scratched up frame). That's how I justified the purchase- but honestly, I just really wanted it.
Looks pretty sharp !
How hard was it to replace the frame? The chamfered edges on mine are starting to accumulate a ton of micro scratches so I'd like to replace it eventually
holycow1 said:
Hey guys,
I just wanted to share my phone modification with everyone, in case any one was interested. I bought a N910F gold frame and put it on my T-Mobile Note 4. Here are the pictures of the results. Let me know if anyone is interested in doing this with their phone, and I'll be glad to explain the process (it's super easy). You can do any frame you want (white, black, and gold), although I haven't see a pink one for sale.
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I've actually removed my frame to remove dust under the camera that affected pictures, now the screen and frame aren't that flush. How did you re-glue it back together? What adhesive did you use?
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That can happen. What I did was I used a hair dryer to heat the top corners before removing the rest of the phone from the frame. If the screen is no longer flush, what I'd recommend is taking your phone apart again and using that hair dryer to warm the adhesive between the screen and middle frame. When the adhesive is warm, put the screen down on a soft surface and apply the pressure on the top portion of the boards (don't press too hard, just in case). Then when you're putting the frame back on, use the hair dryer to heat those top corners again and press together. Then put the screws back in.
You could also need more adhesive- I took my other phone apart to try to fix the GPS and the glass wasn't perfectly flush when putting it back together. I took it to the Samsung repair depot in TX and they put it in their oven and took it apart properly but when they reassembled it, it still wasn't flush (they didn't add more adhesive).
If you do need more adhesive, they sell it on eBay (search N910 adhesive) but they sell it in packs of 5 or more... and it's $9... kind of a rip off.
Face_Plant said:
How hard was it to replace the frame? The chamfered edges on mine are starting to accumulate a ton of micro scratches so I'd like to replace it eventually
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Frame is not that hard to remove... My recommendation is to use a little heat (hair dryer) for those top corners. You do need a plastic pry tool (or a guitar pick would work).
The easiest way that I've found is to start at the back and lift up the plastic part then move to the side of the phone and use that pry tool to just work your way up and around the phone. Don't start at the bottom, for some reason its harder to start at. Once you have the top, it will open like a clam shell. Use a little heat when putting it back together- again on the top corners.
holycow1 said:
That can happen. What I did was I used a hair dryer to heat the top corners before removing the rest of the phone from the frame. If the screen is no longer flush, what I'd recommend is taking your phone apart again and using that hair dryer to warm the adhesive between the screen and middle frame. When the adhesive is warm, put the screen down on a soft surface and apply the pressure on the top portion of the boards (don't press too hard, just in case). Then when you're putting the frame back on, use the hair dryer to heat those top corners again and press together. Then put the screws back in.
You could also need more adhesive- I took my other phone apart to try to fix the GPS and the glass wasn't perfectly flush when putting it back together. I took it to the Samsung repair depot in TX and they put it in their oven and took it apart properly but when they reassembled it, it still wasn't flush (they didn't add more adhesive).
If you do need more adhesive, they sell it on eBay (search N910 adhesive) but they sell it in packs of 5 or more... and it's $9... kind of a rip off.
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Awesome! I guess if it gets out of control I will try that. It's OK for now. I might try the taking apart again to warm the glue up. Thanks!
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LTE Connectivity Bands
Does the change in chassis from the 910t to a chassis of a 910f affect the lte bands accepted? I'm not sure if that is built into the logic board or the configuration of the metal chassis antenna which would be changed.
Kokorone said:
Does the change in chassis from the 910t to a chassis of a 910f affect the lte bands accepted? I'm not sure if that is built into the logic board or the configuration of the metal chassis antenna which would be changed.
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No change in bands- all antenna terminals are the same.
Does anyone know if this frame would work for the AT&T version of the Note 4?
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Does anyone know if this frame would work for the AT&T version of the Note 4?
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I can't tell you 100% sure, but I believe so. The only frame that is radically different is the Verizon one which fits the Chinese frames found on eBay.
If you take off the frame and take a picture of it, you can compare it to the T-Mobile frame side by side. I can send you a picture of mine.
Thanks for the reply!
I will go open mine when I get home, can you post a picture of your original frame on here? It might help others out as well!
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Thanks for the reply!
I will go open mine when I get home, can you post a picture of your original frame on here? It might help others out as well!
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Careful when you're opening it. Read my previous posts in the thread regarding heating corners and where to start.
Original T-Mobile frame:
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For reference, here's the Chinese frame (which I believe fits the Verizon model):
Notice the microphone holes at the bottom and the antenna locations are the major differences, and in fact causes the two not to be interchangeable.
Thanks for the reply, I will give it a try, it looks the same as the T-mobile one.
Black and white looks sick... saw someone did it. Cant remember where though.. i think it might have been a video. By zedomax.
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Unfortunately, there's only ONE seller of the N910F frames that I could find, and that's a company called fonejoy. Their price was £45 (or $70) which was pretty steep considering the Chinese ones [which fit the Verizon model] are about $50. Also, my original frame is in mint condition (no scratches or anything), so it's resale value is around $40, if I were to sell it. I can also just put the old frame back on when I'm done with the phone and want to sell the phone itself, and the phone would be in mint condition, which increase resale value (over a scratched up frame). That's how I justified the purchase- but honestly, I just really wanted it.
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Any chance you would be willing to sell your original frame? My white note 4 is pretty banged up (Tmobile)
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Any chance you would be willing to sell your original frame? My white note 4 is pretty banged up (Tmobile)
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Yeah 800$ give you the whole thing lmaoo jk
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Any chance you would be willing to sell your original frame? My white note 4 is pretty banged up (Tmobile)
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I really want to keep my frame for resale purposes, but here's an eBay listing for a white frame: http://www.ebay.com/itm/191521919910 ($35 incl. shipping)
It comes from a Sprint Note 4, and there's a misconception out there that the Sprint frame is not compatible with the T-Mobile phone when it really is. The Sprint frame is actually incompatible with the Verizon model.
Good luck!
On sunday, I pre ordered a 128gb s6 edge on tmobile's website, it arrived on tuesday, and as soon as I turned it on I noticed dead pixels and also i noticed under direct sunlight that the screen had scratches everywhere, i paid almost one thousand dollars for this and I found that unacceptable, so I called TMobile and they said I had to return the phone, wait until they refunded my money and then I could order another one OR I could buy another one and pay for it and return this one. So I just went ahead and placed another order and they overnighted a new phone to me. The phone arrived today, and it also has dead pixels or something black under the display (very noticebale) and also has a really scratched screen. The phone is nice, it works fine most of the time, but my problem is not with the software, it is with the lack of quality control Samsung is showing with this release.
I decided to return both phones, and i will be sticking with my iphone 6 until Samsung gets their act together, I dont want to throw Samsung under the but for a flagship phone, this issues should be non-existent. My advice to anyone that has ordered a s6 edge, is to check your screen for any dead pixels, and to check your phone;s screen under direct sunlight and see if you find any scratches.
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Don't be so sure that it's Samsung. Having this kind of issue twice in a row is a more likely sign of mishandling during delivery than an actual quality control issue.
I'd consider trying to see if I could get the device shipped to my carrier's local store for pickup, as delivery companies tend to be a bit more careful when shipping things to businesses than to consumers.
Same exact thing with my s6 edge 32gb. Small scratches allike over the screen.
My new one came today but I didn't open it yet to check.
Wow !! After that I will prefer to buy at the store after the April 10 !
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Poetique said:
Don't be so sure that it's Samsung. Having this kind of issue twice in a row is a more likely sign of mishandling during delivery than an actual quality control issue.
I'd consider trying to see if I could get the device shipped to my carrier's local store for pickup, as delivery companies tend to be a bit more careful when shipping things to businesses than to consumers.
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I would find it virtually impossible for the delivery company to scratch the screen. Each phone should have a screen cover installed at the factory. The dirt under the glass or dead pixels with 2 units delivered to the same person is also disturbing.
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Oh wow! Mine is all scratched up as well =( Right when I took it out of the box I noticed a pretty substantial scratch on the display. Then when I looked more closely, in more revealing lighting, I saw that I had light scratches all over the entire display. I am NOT happy with this. I will be getting a regular S6 for review when I can. If some of you are seeing the same things that I am, then statistically speaking, this is a pretty wide-spread issue. If you and I are seeing these scratches, it means that others are as well. I will keep a close eye on this.
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I would find it virtually impossible for the delivery company to scratch the screen. Each phone should have a screen cover installed at the factory. The dirt under the glass or dead pixels with 2 units delivered to the same person is also disturbing.
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You'd only find it virtually impossible if you've never been inside of a UPS or FedEx shipping facility (probably the USPS too, but I havn't actually been to the inner portions of one of those). I actually have never received a FedEx package to my area that wasn't beat up to some degree.
When I say that packages are literally occasionally tossed several YARDS across a room, I'm not kidding. And if whoever is supposed to catch them misses, well... what goes up eventually comes down lol.
The use of screen/devices covers only has one real effect, and that's preventing EXCESSIVE dust. Obviously, dust is dust, and you can't just eliminate it. It'll do a bit to stop scratches, but if a bit of fine debris that just so happens to get trapped under the dust cover it can still lead to scratches if the device gets shaken about in the box. And of course it does nothing to protect against impact damage, which is one potential cause of dead pixels.
I want to see what happens when other carriers start shipping. On that note, what courier is responsible for T-Mobile orders?
Edit: I'm also going to assume that everyone around here is aware of the fact that Gorilla Glass is visible to the naked eye if you have sharp eyesight, and that the "scratches" probably aren't scratches if they're uniform and follow some sort of pattern (you'd be surprised how many people thought they had scratched devices in the early days of Gorilla Glass lol).
Any pictures from any of you?
I just checked my screen. Zero scratches. Scared me for a second.
i expect these devices are assembled in vacuumed containers, in a similar fashion to hard drives, as such dust/particles are a non issue and it isnt possible to get dust under one of the plastic covers unless they are tampered with down the line - again this would just be my expectation but i would be surprised if this assessment wasnt accurate.
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i expect these devices are assembled in vacuumed containers, in a similar fashion to hard drives, as such dust/particles are a non issue and it isnt possible to get dust under one of the plastic covers unless they are tampered with down the line - again this would just be my expectation but i would be surprised if this assessment wasnt accurate.
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You expect alot from mass manufacturing/assembly lol.
The kind of operation you're talking about would be more likely to be found when dealing with either small-scale manufacturing or manufacturing of devices that never touch human hands before reaching the consumer. Neither case applies to Samsung devices.
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Oh wow! Mine is all scratched up as well =( Right when I took it out of the box I noticed a pretty substantial scratch on the display. Then when I looked more closely, in more revealing lighting, I saw that I had light scratches all over the entire display. I am NOT happy with this. I will be getting a regular S6 for review when I can. If some of you are seeing the same things that I am, then statistically speaking, this is a pretty wide-spread issue. If you and I are seeing these scratches, it means that others are as well. I will keep a close eye on this.
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Oh no Both S6 Edges I have received both have the scratched screens. This is bad.
while thats true, it is a proceedure in place for hard drives, they literally will not work if there is a single speck of dust on the platter - if anything at all interferes with the read-head it will scratch the platter and bam dead hard drive.
it is entirely possible they dont use vacuum chambers for assembling phones however, I will grant you that lol
just try to clean the screen !
i thought i scratched my NoteEdge too but after i clean the screen, the scratches are gone !
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netnerd said:
just try to clean the screen !
i thought i scratched my NoteEdge too but after i clean the screen, the scratches are gone !
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Doesn't work.
There is no distinct pattern . They go in every which direction. I haven't seen this before and trust me when I say, I have reviewed A LOT of phones. It's strange to see gorilla glass 4 scratching this way. I have had my Note 4 for many months and it looks fantastic. I can see a few hairline scratches but nothing like what I already see on this less than a day old S6 Edge. At this point, I really can't pin down the cause. However, this is not made up. When I was at MWC I saw many, many models and didn't see any scratches on the displays. You bet once this device is more widely released that I will be exchanging mine!
So for those with scratched screens... how have you tried to go about cleaning them? And do the T-Mobile units come with a dust cover or a screen protector? If it's the latter, you might definitely want to try cleaning them as you could just be seeing small bits of adhesive.
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There is no distinct pattern . They go in every which direction. I haven't seen this before and trust me when I say, I have reviewed A LOT of phones. It's strange to see gorilla glass 4 scratching this way. I have had my Note 4 for many months and it looks fantastic. I can see a few hairline scratches but nothing like what I already see on this less than a day old S6 Edge. At this point, I really can't pin down the cause. However, this is not made up. When I was at MWC I saw many, many models and didn't see any scratches on the displays. You bet once this device is more widely released that I will be exchanging mine!
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Do you have black or white?
Scratches are scratches...
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So for those with scratched screens... how have you tried to go about cleaning them? And do the T-Mobile units come with a dust cover or a screen protector? If it's the latter, you might definitely want to try cleaning them as you could just be seeing small bits of adhesive.
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There was the standard plastic dust protector. All looked perfect as I pulled it out of that sleeve. Immediately I looked at the display and saw a pretty deep scratch. I thought it was adhesive and I rubbed at it. It didn't go away. Then I could feel it with my fingernail. Next I looked at the entire display in the light and I saw hairline scratches all over the place. Something is definitely going on here.
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Do you have black or white?
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Mine is black but I can't see that mattering much, unless one particular factory dealt with our models and they were only black...
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There was the standard plastic dust protector. All looked perfect as I pulled it out of that sleeve. Immediately I looked at the display and saw a pretty deep scratch. I thought it was adhesive and I rubbed at it. It didn't go away. Then I could feel it with my fingernail. Next I looked at the entire display in the light and I saw hairline scratches all over the place. Something is definitely going on here.
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That's very odd, and does sound like the sort of thing that would happen when there's a combination of an issue with fine debris getting trapped under the dust cover and the device being shaken about during shipping as it's unlikely that such a thing would pass any QA inspections.
The only unusual thing is that you said there was a DEEP scratch, and fine debris wouldn't cause that. Larger debris could, but that would indicate someone just being careless while packaging the device.
I am completely gutted. I've had my P9000 for exactly two weeks and then today this happens:
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I got out of my car on a gravel drive, slipped and dropped the phone and it landed face down on the stones. It only fell from about waist height and I didn't think it hit the ground particularly hard.
I'm just glad the phone didn't cost me £600+ otherwise I really would be upset.
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I am completely gutted. I've had my P9000 for exactly two weeks and then today this happens:
I got out of my car on a gravel drive, slipped and dropped the phone and it landed face down on the stones. It only fell from about waist height and I didn't think it hit the ground particularly hard.
I'm just glad the phone didn't cost me £600+ otherwise I really would be upset.
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Ouch! I feel your pain. Did you have any cover or screen protector on it?
Ditto - sorry to hear this. I see the silicon cover in the photo, but would also be interested to know if there was a screen protector on it.
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I am completely gutted. I've had my P9000 for exactly two weeks and then today this happens:
I got out of my car on a gravel drive, slipped and dropped the phone and it landed face down on the stones. It only fell from about waist height and I didn't think it hit the ground particularly hard.
I'm just glad the phone didn't cost me £600+ otherwise I really would be upset.
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I see you can buy a new screen on the official website for $99.
As you said, I did have a silicone case on it but I didn't have a screen protector on it. When I purchased the phone I did get a tempered glass screen protector as well but I could not get it to fit with the silicone case. As others have reported here when I tried to put the silicone case on it lifted the edges of the screen protector so I gave up.
I did look at replacing the screen, I've done it on a few other phones, but it looks as though the screen is glued onto the frame and and I'm not sure how easy it would be to replace while keeping it looking good. $99 is a lot to spend and then be unsuccessful. It wouldn't be so bad if someone else had already done it and there was a YouTube video or something showing taking the phone apart. I did actually find the screen available for $70 here http://www.elephone.cc/lcd-display-touch-screen-for-elephone-p9000.html but even at that price I was unwilling to take the risk.
So, anyway, I have now ordered another P9000 from the same seller as my original and I am definitely going to have another go to get the tempered glass screen ptotector on this one.
Once I've got the new phone up and running I may take the old one apart and document it on this forum to help others out.
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As you said, I did have a silicone case on it but I didn't have a screen protector on it. When I purchased the phone I did get a tempered glass screen protector as well but I could not get it to fit with the silicone case. As others have reported here when I tried to put the silicone case on it lifted the edges of the screen protector so I gave up.
I did look at replacing the screen, I've done it on a few other phones, but it looks as though the screen is glued onto the frame and and I'm not sure how easy it would be to replace while keeping it looking good. $99 is a lot to spend and then be unsuccessful. It wouldn't be so bad if someone else had already done it and there was a YouTube video or something showing taking the phone apart. I did actually find the screen available for $70 here http://www.elephone.cc/lcd-display-touch-screen-for-elephone-p9000.html but even at that price I was unwilling to take the risk.
So, anyway, I have now ordered another P9000 from the same seller as my original and I am definitely going to have another go to get the tempered glass screen ptotector on this one.
Once I've got the new phone up and running I may take the old one apart and document it on this forum to help others out.
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That will be very good of you. I am sure there will be many people with the same problem. Why they make a cover and protector that aren't compatible is beyond me.
My phone is still on its way to me via snail mail, so I will only have it in about 5 weeks......
Has anybody tried to replace the digitizer/screen yet?! I had the same as you. After just 1 week of use, it broked ...
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The one plus x has its screen glued to the frame as well. There's a few YouTube vids on that. Should be the same. PS. I tried it (without the digitizer), then bought my P9000. Broke the heck out of the digitizer trying to get the screen off. I'll probably need to hot glue the new screen and digitizer in, but it was such a colossal pain in the butt getting the screen off, I just gave up and bought this one.
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The one plus x has its screen glued to the frame as well. There's a few YouTube vids on that. Should be the same. PS. I tried it (without the digitizer), then bought my P9000. Broke the heck out of the digitizer trying to get the screen off. I'll probably need to hot glue the new screen and digitizer in, but it was such a colossal pain in the butt getting the screen off, I just gave up and bought this one.
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I tried to replace the screen of an OPX and I broke little plastic framework. So now between the body metall part and the backside of the pone has a sh*tty gap
Yep. I got the gap too.
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Sorry don't got the link anymore but i have seen screen for only 69 dollar on alibaba
today my dislay also brick. now i try to get remote access to the phone but no chance ( usb debuging is on)
i can see all on screen but it do not response to finger touch
i ordered an usb otg to get it work with usb mouse.
new display screen takes 4 weeks from china shipping
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today my dislay also brick. now i try to get remote access to the phone but no chance ( usb debuging is on)
i can see all on screen but it do not response to finger touch
i ordered an usb otg to get it work with usb mouse.
new display screen takes 4 weeks from china shipping
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Good luck replacing it I just took mine apart and here's some pics and notes that might help you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/elephone-p9000/how-to/p9000-disassembly-broke-t3450238
Don't feel bad
I had this happen too, screen is very week, cracked mine while sitting down with the phone in the back pocket (never done this before), cracked 2nd screen by dropping from car dashboard about 40 centimetres and was shattered by impact with a plastic ashtray. Not repairable that time, as mainboard blown because stupid glued design forced the battery connector loose while replacing back cover. This is the most fragile phone I have ever seen, I'm gutted because I was very pleased with it, so bought my daughter the same device, which has now just been completely bricked by an OTA update when it is only 2 months old. If that wasn't bad enough I had bought a replacement for the one I abused so little to break, which arrived working however had a faulty USB circuit and destroyed 2 chargers and forced 1 laptop to be repaired in an effort to charge, and took massive arguments and a threat of legal actually to obtain a refund.
Never again.... good specification but wrong compromises by elephone, very fragile device that is very difficult to repair.