Need some help anyone that has tested any of the units ,need some advice on purchasing one.
Stability
Reliability
Features
Easy of use
Can't speak for the Pumpkin, but the ATOTO A6 series, for me, has been stable and reliable, has some good features (dual Bluetooth, real 2s boot, decent audio quality with a Toshiba pre-amp, bright, vibrant IPS screen, 2Gb RAM, decent internal/external mic, external WiFi antenna, strong GPS performance, 2 amp USB charging, 3 USB connections, 256GB microSD card support, works well with just about any ELM Bluetooth OBD2 reader, Bluetooth 5.0 with aptX.). The resolution on the Atoto is higher, 1024x600, compared to 800x480 on the Pumpkin. That right there is a deal-breaker for me on the Pumpkin.
The Pumpkin does have a volume dial, nice to have, and it also has a DVD drive and can do video-out to rear seat monitors, something the Atoto can't do. But that volume dial and DVD drive mean a smaller screen than the Atoto.
Ease of use, well, that's mostly down to the launcher you go with, really, and none of the Chinese head units have a good launcher, you'll want something from the Play store like FCC or CWG. Pumpkin's FM tuner app is much better looking, but Atoto's app works well enough.
The gesture control on the Atoto is a nice feature, but it's really best suited to cars that have head units that are higher (like, say, a Focus or BRZ) so your normal hand movements from the center console/shifter up to the wheel don't set it off. I'd recommend getting the non-gesture A6 Pro unit if your head unit is low-mounted, save a little money and get a front panel USB port in the process. And go with the Pro, not the Premium, because on the Pro versions get the superior IPS display and BT 5.0.
Biggest downside of the Atoto units is that there's no custom ROM support for MediaTek head units, while the Pumpkin units have good ROM support here on XDA. On the upside, Atoto is pretty good about updating firmware and their customer service really seems to be responsive.
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Can't speak for the Pumpkin, but the ATOTO A6 series, for me, has been stable and reliable, has some good features (dual Bluetooth, real 2s boot, decent audio quality with a Toshiba pre-amp, bright, vibrant IPS screen, 2Gb RAM, decent internal/external mic, external WiFi antenna, strong GPS performance, 2 amp USB charging, 3 USB connections, 256GB microSD card support, works well with just about any ELM Bluetooth OBD2 reader, Bluetooth 5.0 with aptX.). The resolution on the Atoto is higher, 1024x600, compared to 800x480 on the Pumpkin. That right there is a deal-breaker for me on the Pumpkin.
The Pumpkin does have a volume dial, nice to have, and it also has a DVD drive and can do video-out to rear seat monitors, something the Atoto can't do. But that volume dial and DVD drive mean a smaller screen than the Atoto.
Ease of use, well, that's mostly down to the launcher you go with, really, and none of the Chinese head units have a good launcher, you'll want something from the Play store like FCC or CWG. Pumpkin's FM tuner app is much better looking, but Atoto's app works well enough.
The gesture control on the Atoto is a nice feature, but it's really best suited to cars that have head units that are higher (like, say, a Focus or BRZ) so your normal hand movements from the center console/shifter up to the wheel don't set it off. I'd recommend getting the non-gesture A6 Pro unit if your head unit is low-mounted, save a little money and get a front panel USB port in the process. And go with the Pro, not the Premium, because on the Pro versions get the superior IPS display and BT 5.0.
Biggest downside of the Atoto units is that there's no custom ROM support for MediaTek head units, while the Pumpkin units have good ROM support here on XDA. On the upside, Atoto is pretty good about updating firmware and their customer service really seems to be responsive.
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Would you say the Pro version is actually worth the extra $50 just for the IPS display and 5.0 BT? I'm debating on getting the A6 Premium or the XTron TE706PL. Also, if you change launchers on the A6, will it remove or change the bottom nav bar that has home/back/dropdown/etc or the status bar at all? I find it kind of redundant having the home button on touch screen when there's also a physical button for it.
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Would you say the Pro version is actually worth the extra $50 just for the IPS display and 5.0 BT? I'm debating on getting the A6 Premium or the XTron TE706PL. Also, if you change launchers on the A6, will it remove or change the bottom nav bar that has home/back/dropdown/etc or the status bar at all? I find it kind of redundant having the home button on touch screen when there's also a physical button for it.
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Yes, as an owner of last year's A6 model, which had the same TFT display as the A6Y Premium, the IPS display on my new Pro is well worth the extra money IMO. Just much nicer looking. Also, the Pro gets the much better Toshiba preamp, also worth some extra money IMO. Bluetooth 5.0, not so much, for me, as I don't stream anything from my phone, all music is coming from the head unit.
The bottom nav bar never goes away, it's part of the firmware (and some Atoto units, like my old one, don't have a home button anywhere else). But trust me, you'll come to appreciate having it there all the time, if for no other reason than the quick access of the notification tray/quick settings is easier, faster, and safer than trying to swipe down, and in my case I use that feature quite often. It is also the only place with a back button.
Apps can get rid of the top status bar, as can some launchers.
Here's a video I shot of my A6Y Pro yesterday, in the car:
https://youtu.be/s5XWAJzk93s
And here's one of my old A6, same car, same parking spot, same lighting/time of day, shot using the same camera. That should give you an idea on the difference in screen quality between the Premium screen and the Pro IPS screen.
https://youtu.be/HFz_Epqj1D8
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Just bought this and am setting everything up in my home now, it's really sweet. One question though, have you got any tips or tricks to get OK Google to call/text? I've tried and it says it isn't possible to. I've seen people using MTCDialer, and without trying it myself, I've read it won't work with our A6 because it doesn't use the correct CPU. Going to install this on my 07 G6 this Sunday, hoping everything works out.
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Just bought this and am setting everything up in my home now, it's really sweet. One question though, have you got any tips or tricks to get OK Google to call/text? I've tried and it says it isn't possible to. I've seen people using MTCDialer, and without trying it myself, I've read it won't work with our A6 because it doesn't use the correct CPU. Going to install this on my 07 G6 this Sunday, hoping everything works out.
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You could try using the Hound app, give it all the permissions, and use keyword "OK Hound" instead. That's what ATOTO recommends for now. I never faffed around with it, because my phone will dial out on "OK Google" voice commands and still run the call through the ATOTO unit's mic and display, even in my pocket most times (Essential PH-1 on 8.1). Only thing I can't do and still see/control on the ATOTO unit is sending text via voice.
What CANBUS adapter are you going to use in your G6? I like the PAC GM11 with built-in chimes/turn signal clicks, but if you still have the stock 07 gauge cluster, you will still get chimes through the cluster and can use a cheaper Metra/Axxess unit. But since I retrofitted the 09 gauge cluster (with DIC in the dash display) which doesn't have a chime module built in, I wanted the chimes. I also prefer PAC's steering wheel control module, and the GM11 has an output wire to make install easier with the SW1-RC.
Another pro-tip if using PAC steering wheel controls, use the blue/white "Kenwood" wire on the PAC box to the ORANGE key + wire on the ATOTO harness, and follow the PAC programming instructions for Pioneer head units and it will work like a charm.
And like I mentioned elsewhere, the best looking, best fitting dash kit for a G6 is (IMO) the Schoshe GM kit, and Walmart stocks it. The texture on the Metra kits is kinda ugly and doesn't blend in as well with the HVAC controls in the console.
Yup I did some digging on their website trying to see the latest update (which I still haven't found...?) and saw they made that post about Hound. Seems to work relatively well honestly and that's more than okay for me. I purchased the C2R-GM11B instead of the C2R-GM11, and I sadly did get the metra dash kit. Looking at your video and mounting the kit in the front of my radio I ordered the Scosche immediately... The metra's bezel is huge...! Haven't even unpacked the thing until you brought it up. Good save.
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Yup I did some digging on their website trying to see the latest update (which I still haven't found...?) and saw they made that post about Hound. Seems to work relatively well honestly and that's more than okay for me. I purchased the C2R-GM11B instead of the C2R-GM11, and I sadly did get the metra dash kit. Looking at your video and mounting the kit in the front of my radio I ordered the Scosche immediately... The metra's bezel is huge...! Haven't even unpacked the thing until you brought it up. Good save.
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You'll be cooking with gas soon! And you're using the right PAC unit, 11B has a harness that fits '05-09, while the non-B fits the 09.5 and '10 G6.
As for the latest update, according to my support girl at ATOTO, all the Pro units sold through Amazon have the latest firmware already installed. Might be a few months before we see an update, depending on how many bugs they get out of us folks actually using them in the real world. But for the most part it's a mature firmware, since the SoC and OS is the same as the 2017 A6, which has been out in the wild for over a year now, and there's a reason they stick with Marshmallow. For that matter, the same 9.4.1 firmware file is meant to be flashed on both the old and new units, but there is a different MCU flash for the Pro models (because new aptX Bluetooth 5.0 stack and gesture control module).
Forgot to ask, do you have the Monsoon system? If so, and you're using the line-level outputs on the A6, you might get a little "computer noise" from the unit, especially when it heavily accesses WiFi. It's not loud, and doesn't increase with system volume, only notice it in quiet passages or when not playing audio at all, but it was there. But that's based on my old 2017 unit that was hooked up to my Monsoon amp, might be a non-issue on the new unit since its a totally different chassis and preamp. Good news is that when I went full-aftermarket on the amp and used RCA cables that noise went away.
Oh, one other pro-tip. Go to Settings/About, tap on the Model Number(A6 Pro) four times, and when it asks for a password, enter 1238 to access the microphone gain controls and turn that up to at least 6 (default is 4). Do the same thing again but use password 1617 and you'll get a menu with some other hidden settings, like touch calibration, parking guidelines for your reverse camera, etc.
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Would you say the Pro version is actually worth the extra $50 just for the IPS display and 5.0 BT? I'm debating on getting the A6 Premium or the XTron TE706PL. Also, if you change launchers on the A6, will it remove or change the bottom nav bar that has home/back/dropdown/etc or the status bar at all? I find it kind of redundant having the home button on touch screen when there's also a physical button for it.
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I am blown away by ATOTO A6 Pro and quality. It worth the extra $50 just for the IPS display and the inclusion of AptX
XTron TE706PL
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Would you say the Pro version is actually worth the extra $50 just for the IPS display and 5.0 BT? I'm debating on getting the A6 Premium or the XTron TE706PL. Also, if you change launchers on the A6, will it remove or change the bottom nav bar that has home/back/dropdown/etc or the status bar at all? I find it kind of redundant having the home button on touch screen when there's also a physical button for it.
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Has anyone gotten a chance to test the Atoto vs the XTron TE706PL?
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XTron TE706PL
Has anyone gotten a chance to test the Atoto vs the XTron TE706PL?
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I'm curious about this too. I have the te706pl running hal9k, but I'm intrigued about the higher rms in the atoto and the ips display, and if someone has tried both devices and could speak on the differences.
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I am blown away by ATOTO A6 Pro and quality. It worth the extra $50 just for the IPS display and the inclusion of AptX
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Wouldn't you want a comparison of the gen2 atoto? Have you read the xda wiki on atoto.
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Hello all,
I'm after a new head unit for my truck, I use the truck for a lot of off roading and for this I use an android based maping software!
So I'm after a single din android head unit with a flip up screen, the ability to transmit to other screens (thinking about a sunvisor screen) it would be nice if I could have a camera input or two, and the ability to connect my phone for handfree phone calls! Also due to the mapping software GPS capabilities, optinal it would be nice to plug a hddd or memory stick with into it for music input
Does anyone have any advice on what would fit my needs?
Thenskae505
My only issue is ruggedness. Sounds like you may want to look at a tablet worth a holder.
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I currently use a tablet, problem I have with it is the tablets I have used 7inch and 10 inch are very bulky, I like the idea of a headunit because it can retract, if I was to mount a tablet it would cover some of my other dials/controls! Also I use the truck for work every day and having a tablet on display wouldn't be a good idea
Is an android headunit really less rugged then the cd player I currently have??
what vehicle is it?
If you are comparing to a name brand unit like Kenwood or pioneer. I would have to say yes
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It's a mitsubishi pajero,
I don't think ruggedNess would be a problem buts it's a risk I'm going to take!
do they make a vehicle specific unit? that would be the best for less bumping around
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do they make a vehicle specific unit? that would be the best for less bumping around
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Unfortunately not, it's just an old school single din head unit slot!
thesnake505 said:
Hello all,
I'm after a new head unit for my truck, I use the truck for a lot of off roading and for this I use an android based maping software!
So I'm after a single din android head unit with a flip up screen, the ability to transmit to other screens (thinking about a sunvisor screen) it would be nice if I could have a camera input or two, and the ability to connect my phone for handfree phone calls! Also due to the mapping software GPS capabilities, optinal it would be nice to plug a hddd or memory stick with into it for music input
Does anyone have any advice on what would fit my needs?
Thenskae505
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It's a mitsubishi pajero,
I don't think ruggedNess would be a problem buts it's a risk I'm going to take!
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A single din head unit with the flip out display will sooner than later break or wear out the motorized gear assembly or ribbon cable. This is especially true with any of the android head units available today and even more so when any of these units are used off road. That said, you can still listen to music on the android single din head units with the display retracted. Although, not being able to use the display while off road defeats the purpose of having it for gps or cameras etc.. To clarify a little more, I had a single din android hu in my 3rd gen montero limited (same as the larger size pajero or shogun, but not the sport), and the display was no where near strong enough to handle all the bouncing around while off road. In turn, I relocated the heater - ac controls to the wallet pocket in the upper center console and installed a double din joying hu. This may or not be an option for you too, depending on how your specific pajero dash, heater - ac controls, center console, and wallet pocket align.
As to the ability to transmit to other displays, I'm not aware of any decent android hu options for that except for maybe the Newsmy Carpad units that use hdmi out on a separate android box to feed its double din display. Please note that most android units will only display a dvd to another screen, and the dvd's only transmitted through the micro controller unit and not through the android system. Nonetheless, there may be a couple of different units out now that may be able to push what's on the main display to other displays, but again I'm not aware of any myself. Hopefully someone here will be able to chime in with some good suggestions for that.
In regard to hands free phone calls via bt to the hu, that's possible, although the voice quality and volume level can be sub par on many units without a hardware mod and a decent quality external mic.
For cameras, I set up a waterproof front camera just below the front bumper license plate frame that runs through the AV-in input. It's used as a front parking and off road camera. I also installed a rear waterproof back up camera with on-off switches, so it can be viewed at any time or turned off completely. Please note that neither of these cameras have dvr capabilities, so I installed a thinkware 750 front and rear camera kit plus three more 1080p dvr type cameras to help cover and record the front, rear, and side views.
With regard to using a hard drive or memory stick, both should work, but neither has been needed here. This is due to the joying hu having two micro sd card slots, and I've had no problem running fat32 formatted 64GB and 128GB sdxc cards packed with music, vids, pics, etc..
Bottom line is that you'll most likely regret a flip out hu unless you do not mind fixing or replacing it sooner than later. Plus, IMHO, most if not all aftermarket flip up displays are too slow, annoying, and clunky.
Best of luck,
R
So having read and took on board what yoy have said, what double din unit would be recommended? ?
Hey guys,
Hoping to hear your thoughts and opinions, the good/bad/ugly.
I'm about to buy my first Android Head Unit but have been trying to get something like this going for a long time.
Here's the "Wish List" I've made to weed out the unit I want.
Unit:
Universal
Double/2 Din
PX6
4GB RAM
64GB ROM
Screen:
10"+ HD IPS (unless there's an OLED out there)
Lowest Profile available (distance been back of screen and dash)
No need to pan, but adjusting up and down and tilt are a plus
No branding
Preferably little or no buttons
No visible ports
OS:
Android 9.0, hopefully, upgradable to 10
Extensions:
Bluetooth -> Support for 2x Paired Phones at once able to receive calls or stream music would be great!
Wireless Apple Car Play
Android Auto
MicroSD card support of 256GB or higher
DPS
Dual-Band WiFi
1+ Video Input NOT back up cam (Plan on attaching a Nintendo Switch as an input device. I haven't seen anything higher resolution on input than just CVBS, but if one existed that would help? Or the support of USB 3 Video Dongle (USB to HDMI)
Right now, this has led me to this one
Dasaita HA2156A-MAX6
There's so much "noise" in this space with the hundreds of resellers/OEMs and scammers that I think I'm just going to pull the trigger on this and see what happens.
But before I do, if anyone has any better options, or thoughts/words of wisdom, please pass them along!
Thanks in advance!
I also really like the ATOTO A6Y1021PR but it's spec'd so low compared to the others and is running Kitkat (what the hell???)
I also really like some of the Xtrons, but couldn't get the specs. If I go wth a PX5 then they have tons of options, but couldn't find a 10+ screen with PX6
I'm interested in this too, I've been looking for a while at Android head units and while my wallet says go a basic double din 6-7" screen, the rest of me says go for that PX6 with the 10" screen.
I'm looking at getting the single DIN so that I can keep the little storage place below it, the only storage in my entire car (75 Series Land Cruiser Ute). If anyone knows of any reason not to, feel free to chime in, but otherwise I'm going to go the same route as you '82. The Maxx6 looks like the only PX6 with a massive screen from a reputable brand
My experience is that some of the specs are best described as "rubbery". Some of the good value units include marketing graphics which are copy-pasted to assist sales and are not wholly accurate.
Ideally one would like to see a pic the summary screen.
Casual research indicates ATOTO delivers the goods!-IMHO
There is not one single (cheap) Chinese brand supporting to pair 2 phones at once.
Only a few of the latest PX6 models support dual-band wifi. Most only support 2.4GHz.
Support for Apple Car Play and Android Auto can be tricky. Especially if your phone is on android 9. Support for android 10 (released today on 3 September 2019!) might take quite some time.
1+ Video Input: Haven't seen that yet.
Dasaita is a very good choice but does not support the above mentioned wishes either.
and what is DPS? or do you mean DSP?
You can get lower profile by "burying" the double din instead of flushmounting it to dash/adapter bracket
I've been enjoying my admittedly under-powered ATOTO A6 Pro for months now, and while I don't have experience with other Android Head Units, I've gained some perspective. Mainly, we're not really talking about buying an Android tablet here!
Android tablets are obsolete after a year or three, but my lexus is 20 years old and (with certain updates) I still love it. I've realized that although I wish I didn't have to put up with quite so much lag while interacting with certain android apps running on the ATOTO (Google Maps responsiveness is painfully slow), I'm really glad about the ways that the A6 Pro behaves like a car stereo head unit should: It has a great display that's easy to see in all lighting; It's on instantly after the car's ignition (with minimal battery drain while the car is parked); great bluetooth aptX audio streaming and call handling; the backup camera view is instantaneous after shifting to reverse (with optional volume reduction while in reverse), it can drive 4 speakers (6 if you count the component tweeters surprisingly well at 29W RMS each without an external amp (while supplying my powered subwoofer with a clean line output), etc, etc.
So with the A6 Pro one learns to keep most apps on the adjacent SmartPhone (even if you're not choosing to use Android Auto or CarPlay which mostly run apps on the phone), and mostly run media apps that are easily handled on the head unit. I've never been bothered that my car stereo is running marshmallow or whatever instead of Android 10.
My phone is running Android 10 and is distracting enough as a responsive/powerful android device. And while it would be cool if it were faster, my car's head unit is more about good music and phone integration while driving (or while parked and listening to/watching media .
Does anyone have this newer Joying 8.8" widescreen single DIN head unit with the new UI, JY-HOS01N4GS-2 ?
I just got it in and am trying to set it up before I install it in the car. Can it be modded or customized? While this new UI isn't that bad looking, it's a little more modern, but it does have this damn clock on the right side taking up real estate on the screen and I can't get rid of it. I tried using another launcher but the clock still stays there. I also can't get it to connect to my BT keyboard even though it sees it. Nor can I get it to see a universal USB cam which I want to use for a rear view mirror display. I did get it to recognize the universal non-Joying internal sensor TPMS unit I got as well as XTRON front DVR cam (I had to use the program on the XTRON cam to see it though) and an XTRON backup cam.
Can anyone help or point me in the right direction for modding this unit?
Anyone? I did find an app that can see the universal cams now but still need help with the other stuff. Plus I want to change the boot logo to an animated one I made.
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Anyone? I did find an app that can see the universal cams now but still need help with the other stuff. Plus I want to change the boot logo to an animated one I made.
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I don't have such a unit, so I would not know about your Launcher, but it has been mentioned before in the forum. Please search a bit more.
You can only connect phones and approved devices to your device on BT. See this post and further for a possible modification.
Most universal usb webcams are not supported.
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I don't have such a unit, so I would not know about your Launcher, but it has been mentioned before in the forum. Please search a bit more.
You can only connect phones and approved devices to your device on BT. See this post and further for a possible modification.
Most universal usb webcams are not supported.
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Why the hell do they do that? If I had known that before hand I would've probably went with another unit like an ATOTO or a Dasaita. I went with this one because the widescreen 8.8 IPS display fits my car perfectly plus it has a 4g module built in. (grumble)
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Why the hell do they do that? If I had known that before hand I would've probably went with another unit like an ATOTO or a Dasaita. I went with this one because the widescreen 8.8 IPS display fits my car perfectly plus it has a 4g module built in. (grumble)
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Dasaita is microntek. All those units have crippled bluetooth as well. It is something the Chinese do to promote selling their own stuff, I guess.
No idea about Atoto though.
Does your keyboard have a usb-dongle? As far as I understood, keyboards with a usb-dongle do work. All BT equipment relying on the host bluetooth are hit-and-miss, and almost always miss.
No. It uses whatever's is built in to what you want to connect to I guess. I do have a Bluetooth CSR 4.0 dongle and tried using that on it but I can't see where it recognizes it.
The HU sees the keyboard it just won't connect to it. I damn well better not have any problems connecting to my OBDLink MX when I put it in the car. ?
Ok I tried what they said to do in that post but it didn't work. Not sure I did it right. It appears all I had to do was copy those two files in that bluetoothsetting.zip to a clean SD card put it on the HU and reboot it.
If that's what I was supposed to do then no luck. I have read that the firmware on these widescreen units are slightly different than the other Intel Airmont units.
*picture removed - its a Chinese "OEM" looking unit with a purple IR dot bottom right*
Bought an M3 last week and it had this unit in it.
I've not really got a clue how to use it to It's strength though.
I've currently got my phone hotspot turned on 24/7 as I can't see a way of having it come on when it connects to the car.
The launcher in that picture is a pain as the radio app is junk. I can't tune any FM stations other than Radio 2 and 4. Is there an app that can tune actual FM radio rather than Internet radio that's fit for a car?
I've been playing around with a launcher called Agama tonight which allows me to control what apps open from the touch screen, if I can get a proper FM tuner, can it be mapped to the hard button?
I'm sure I'll have more questions so get used to the sight of me and sorry in advance.
Edit: can't post the picture until I've got 10 posts. Hoping some of you more familiar with these types of head units can help.
Without a picture, it's really hard to say what unit it is, but it is possibly one of the Eonon or Xtrons units, take a look at their websites and see if you can ID the unit. Also, take a look in Settings->About Machine and tell us what info is in there, including the firmware version and MCU type/version, which will help in id-ing the unit and giving advice on how to progress.
If it's not too old, then you may be able to install a custom ROM to get it up to date (easy to do). There are other Radio apps that you can use, but setting them as the default can be a pain, I'm not 100% sure but I think you will need a custom ROM to be able to achieve this.
I reckon you might have it with Xtrons based on the button pattern.
Top left down is Navi, Band, Menu, Mode
Some in Google images have different buttons such as home (which the menu seems to do in mine)
I couldn't tell anything of use from the settings but I recall it has android 9 so it can't be that old. It's in better condition that the rest of the interior that's for sure.
I have two female USB's sticking out from under the steering column. What might they be for?
Can anyone recommend a proper tuner app for the radio that uses actual FM radio rather than the Internet?
Thanks for looking.
Another question, do these Chinese units have a sub output?
I don't have HK in the car so looking for a little extra bass.
So I went the medieval route to identifying the unit - I pulled it out and had a look.
The only markings to give it away was a huge "hizpo" sticker on the side. Google/ebay search found this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-DAB-An...071044?hash=item5b72aea104:g:R4sAAOSwxMFemRw5
Although that is Android 10 and mine is 9
Looks like a piece of junk tbh. Is it worse junk than it's simular Eonon and Xtron counterparts?
I've been left with the bare minimum wiring at the back. None of the audio/visual in/outputs are there. The GPS antenna is just a stubby on the back of the unit, there's nothing for DAB.
What do we think, junk it and replace it or try and get the right ancillaries?
I was thinking of a small sub and amp and a reverse camera and would like DAB which are all out at the moment..
Hi Matt,
most do not come with DAB+ but you get a usb dongle and install an app, DAB-Z is very good,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/3031914365...SWq6_GyD1IyftEY8s3tRj4-ntcgqxfuxoCnX4QAvD_BwE
some of these units are poor, so can be very good. Little hard to tell without the full details of your unit, and if you dont have all the wiring for your sub etc, then its down to you if you replace it or not
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Hi Matt,
most do not come with DAB+ but you get a usb dongle and install an app, DAB-Z is very good,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/3031914365...SWq6_GyD1IyftEY8s3tRj4-ntcgqxfuxoCnX4QAvD_BwE
some of these units are poor, so can be very good. Little hard to tell without the full details of your unit, and if you dont have all the wiring for your sub etc, then its down to you if you replace it or not
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Are the wiring harnesses the same across the units that all look the same?
I ask that with a small hope I could buy just the harness but I can't find Eonon or Xtrons sell them on their own.
If you were to recommend the better units, what ones would you say? Has to be from the OEM look selection. Don't like naff looking screens sticking out of the dash.
I keep looking back to the Avin Avant 4 which is much closer to the OEM look with the button layout and has a lot of extra's, one of which is the ibus interface. You seem to be able to access the cars computers like NCS and do basic coding, show the PDC radar and potentially show navigations cues on the binnacle,.
That appears to be a 3rd party gadget I could add to this unit if I wanted to but not sure this one is worth it.
I will say I found an option in the equaliser "loud" that has made a vast improvement to the audio. but it still feels like it needs a sub.
Matt_Android said:
Are the wiring harnesses the same across the units that all look the same?
I ask that with a small hope I could buy just the harness but I can't find Eonon or Xtrons sell them on their own.
If you were to recommend the better units, what ones would you say? Has to be from the OEM look selection. Don't like naff looking screens sticking out of the dash.
I keep looking back to the Avin Avant 4 which is much closer to the OEM look with the button layout and has a lot of extra's, one of which is the ibus interface. You seem to be able to access the cars computers like NCS and do basic coding, show the PDC radar and potentially show navigations cues on the binnacle,.
That appears to be a 3rd party gadget I could add to this unit if I wanted to but not sure this one is worth it.
I will say I found an option in the equaliser "loud" that has made a vast improvement to the audio. but it still feels like it needs a sub.
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No, the wiring is different on them, so your better off replacing the unit. Eonon and Xtrons have a good following and also dev's playing around with bits, so it would be a good route to go down, but dont hold me to that if it goes wrong haha, also PX6 should be good units, so another safer bet
Sorry, I am a complete noob here and have noticed this in the various different sites selling them - PX6? What is that, is it just the chip in the same vein as a snapdragon for instance?
Th Avant one comes in either PX30 or PX6 - other than the RAM and the storage, what's the benefit of the PX6? Process/bootup speed?
Matt_Android said:
Sorry, I am a complete noob here and have noticed this in the various different sites selling them - PX6? What is that, is it just the chip in the same vein as a snapdragon for instance?
Th Avant one comes in either PX30 or PX6 - other than the RAM and the storage, what's the benefit of the PX6? Process/bootup speed?
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Rockchip is a manufacturer of SoCs (Systems on a chip), they make a range of general-purpose SoCs (eg RK3399). The PX6 is a SoC based on their RK3399 specifically tailored towards android head units. PX6 is the latest, it is a 6 core processor. The PX5 (based on RK3368) is the previous version, it is an 8 core processor. I don't know much about PX30, I believe it is older than PX5. PX6 is faster in most benchmarks despite having fewer processor cores. For the small-screen in-dash units, you probably want to look at Xtrons or Avin, they both have relatively good reputations
I have one of the 9" screen units in my E39 (very similar dash to the E46) and to my eyes, it just looks like it is meant to be there. It's not a perfect fit, but it is very close. But the extra screen real estate makes it more than worth the trade-off imho.
I only noticed today (because I was watching a YouTube video of one being installed) the Avant 4 has no disc drive at all. I rarely use discs, granted, but not sure I'm ready to sacrifice the option altogether.
Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
szach00 said:
Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
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Depends on your budget. I would start with Rockchip PX6, PX5 or PX3. Just make sure it's a MTCx unit (so MCU type starts with letters MTC)
szach00 said:
Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
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I just took delivery of one. (3/ 32GB)
Seems very well made. According to most YouTube videos I've seen in general, it is as fast as you need it to be, no bad signs of lag and of course if you're using a phone hotspot also depends on your WiFi. It will do me TBH vs. another sim card bill.
Audio quality is reportedly a plus too (which is important obviously)
I seen 2gb units with preloaded apps loading nicely, playing USB HD video files, GPS maps.
Pic is of unit inside Astra Mk6 OEM fascia fitting you get a GM canbus decoder and another speaker unit for indicators door open warning sounds.
I suppose like most gadgets any cons will be personal and appear after spending time with it.
I will report again after I install it after holidays. I botched a couple of photo uploads. If anyone needs any pics let me know. Merry Christmas Folks.
I have to say it's a neat little device with surprisingly decent A/V quality.
All the usual apps Spotify, Netflix, Prime, YouTube work perfectly.
Just connect your Google acc for most direct main app settings.
(If Google is not a preference, Admittedly I'm not surprised)
I have all connections in place, incl. 8pin CANbus but unfortunately the CANbus decoder is not sending a signal to the CC2 plus unit.
It's a Raise RSC and a guy on YouTube told me he got a Raise RZS which works fine.
(Seller said there is NO Raise RZS only RZC)
I'm disappointed as I've said it's a good unit and a working CANbus would have been icing on the cake as I get no reaction from cd 400 control button panel, Steering wheel controls, Door open warnings, A/C display etc.
I can't think where I go from here except try a different decoder. It's a decent probability I have a non working CANbus. And I've tried a lot of attempting to connect it.
EDIT Feb 2021: CANbus issue resolved.
There was a very slightly misaligned pin in the CANbus decoder connection zone
(zone c on CC2plus)
So I straightened it as best as I thought, connected 8 pin connection from loom and now it all works fine.
Incl; Door open warning s - Original cd400 unit fascia buttons / Steering Wheel buttons - A/C display etc. So happy days.