Hello all,
I'm after a new head unit for my truck, I use the truck for a lot of off roading and for this I use an android based maping software!
So I'm after a single din android head unit with a flip up screen, the ability to transmit to other screens (thinking about a sunvisor screen) it would be nice if I could have a camera input or two, and the ability to connect my phone for handfree phone calls! Also due to the mapping software GPS capabilities, optinal it would be nice to plug a hddd or memory stick with into it for music input
Does anyone have any advice on what would fit my needs?
Thenskae505
My only issue is ruggedness. Sounds like you may want to look at a tablet worth a holder.
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I currently use a tablet, problem I have with it is the tablets I have used 7inch and 10 inch are very bulky, I like the idea of a headunit because it can retract, if I was to mount a tablet it would cover some of my other dials/controls! Also I use the truck for work every day and having a tablet on display wouldn't be a good idea
Is an android headunit really less rugged then the cd player I currently have??
what vehicle is it?
If you are comparing to a name brand unit like Kenwood or pioneer. I would have to say yes
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It's a mitsubishi pajero,
I don't think ruggedNess would be a problem buts it's a risk I'm going to take!
do they make a vehicle specific unit? that would be the best for less bumping around
CadillacMike said:
do they make a vehicle specific unit? that would be the best for less bumping around
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Unfortunately not, it's just an old school single din head unit slot!
thesnake505 said:
Hello all,
I'm after a new head unit for my truck, I use the truck for a lot of off roading and for this I use an android based maping software!
So I'm after a single din android head unit with a flip up screen, the ability to transmit to other screens (thinking about a sunvisor screen) it would be nice if I could have a camera input or two, and the ability to connect my phone for handfree phone calls! Also due to the mapping software GPS capabilities, optinal it would be nice to plug a hddd or memory stick with into it for music input
Does anyone have any advice on what would fit my needs?
Thenskae505
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thesnake505 said:
It's a mitsubishi pajero,
I don't think ruggedNess would be a problem buts it's a risk I'm going to take!
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A single din head unit with the flip out display will sooner than later break or wear out the motorized gear assembly or ribbon cable. This is especially true with any of the android head units available today and even more so when any of these units are used off road. That said, you can still listen to music on the android single din head units with the display retracted. Although, not being able to use the display while off road defeats the purpose of having it for gps or cameras etc.. To clarify a little more, I had a single din android hu in my 3rd gen montero limited (same as the larger size pajero or shogun, but not the sport), and the display was no where near strong enough to handle all the bouncing around while off road. In turn, I relocated the heater - ac controls to the wallet pocket in the upper center console and installed a double din joying hu. This may or not be an option for you too, depending on how your specific pajero dash, heater - ac controls, center console, and wallet pocket align.
As to the ability to transmit to other displays, I'm not aware of any decent android hu options for that except for maybe the Newsmy Carpad units that use hdmi out on a separate android box to feed its double din display. Please note that most android units will only display a dvd to another screen, and the dvd's only transmitted through the micro controller unit and not through the android system. Nonetheless, there may be a couple of different units out now that may be able to push what's on the main display to other displays, but again I'm not aware of any myself. Hopefully someone here will be able to chime in with some good suggestions for that.
In regard to hands free phone calls via bt to the hu, that's possible, although the voice quality and volume level can be sub par on many units without a hardware mod and a decent quality external mic.
For cameras, I set up a waterproof front camera just below the front bumper license plate frame that runs through the AV-in input. It's used as a front parking and off road camera. I also installed a rear waterproof back up camera with on-off switches, so it can be viewed at any time or turned off completely. Please note that neither of these cameras have dvr capabilities, so I installed a thinkware 750 front and rear camera kit plus three more 1080p dvr type cameras to help cover and record the front, rear, and side views.
With regard to using a hard drive or memory stick, both should work, but neither has been needed here. This is due to the joying hu having two micro sd card slots, and I've had no problem running fat32 formatted 64GB and 128GB sdxc cards packed with music, vids, pics, etc..
Bottom line is that you'll most likely regret a flip out hu unless you do not mind fixing or replacing it sooner than later. Plus, IMHO, most if not all aftermarket flip up displays are too slow, annoying, and clunky.
Best of luck,
R
So having read and took on board what yoy have said, what double din unit would be recommended? ?
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I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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i think erisin is more common and likely to have morge / better support
I have the same problem, not sure which one to choose. Also, those models are Volkswagen-specific, and I own a Skoda Octavia II 2006. I think it will work, but not sure 100%.
Erisin ES6405V
Erisin ES6698V
Xtrons PB86MTVAP
Apparently the three models have the same chipset: Rockchip PX5 – RK3368 (octacore) though the Xtrons does not specifically states it.
Spanish erisin reseller told me that Xtrons models have better quality than Erisin ones. Anyway, I dont like the Xtrons model since it does not have physical buttons. Between the other two, I'd go for the 6405v since it has 8" instead of 7".
Regarding the dimensions of the head unit to fit my car, I have a fascia front plate that replaces the original one to fit a Columbus RNS510 original nav, which according to google, has:
Front face plate at the widest point is 218 x 128. Rear is 178 x 110 with a depth behind the facia 189.
Which is very close to the dimensions of the erisin head unit, so looks pretty standard for all navs for the VW group.
Hi, I’ve just purchased and installed the Xtrons PB86MTVAP Head unit into my 2010 Skoda Octavia. Installation went fine although it was tricky to loom all the wires and find a suitable route for the USB cables.
Overall I’m very impressed with the HU, the screen is nice and the stock launcher and Apps are very intuitive. A few niggles I have is;
When I’m in the FM radio app and I find a station, I long press on the pre-set to store it but when I turn off the HU and take the key out they all reset?
When using the DAB radio which I have the extra unit for, when I’m in the app and playing a DAB radio channel its perfect, but when I come out of the App and leave it playing in the background it stutters and is unlistenable.
I also need to keep an eye on battery drain, as when I turn it off and leave the car then come back the next day it doesn’t boot up from cold, it literally takes 2 seconds which I wasn’t expecting.
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Hi, I’ve just purchased and installed the Xtrons PB86MTVAP Head unit into my 2010 Skoda Octavia.
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Octavia 2010 is still a Octavia II? (maybe the facelift they made in 2010 for the O2).
Do you have a fascia front plate to adapt the unit to the Columbus RNS510?
What's the chipset of the head unit? Is the PX5?
Any photos?
The USB ports I think the best way is to route them to the ash tray.
corpcd said:
Octavia 2010 is still a Octavia II? (maybe the facelift they made in 2010 for the O2).
Do you have a fascia front plate to adapt the unit to the Columbus RNS510?
What's the chipset of the head unit? Is the PX5?
Any photos?
The USB ports I think the best way is to route them to the ash tray.
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Yes it’s the facelift model on a 10 plate, Columbus shape faceplate is on order but I’ve only gone for an aftermarket ebay one for now, until I can source an original Skoda one for a reasonable price.
Both USBs I’ve routed inside the dash to the end where the end cap comes off, 1 of them has the DAB aerial going to the window the other will have a stick which I’ll fill up with media and it’ll permanently live inside there, it can be changed if needed by taking the end cap off.
I have no idea on the chipsets sorry and I can sort pictures over the weekend, I need to sort this pre-set radio stations issue, I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
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I have no idea on the chipsets sorry and I can sort pictures over the weekend, I need to sort this pre-set radio stations issue, I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
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I think you can see the chipset on the settings menu or using cpu-z.
levy9 said:
I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
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If you dont mind, take a picture of the power connector, Erisin reseller does not guarranty the 6405 model will be compatible with my car, so i am wondering on buying a PB86MTVAP.
Where did you buy it? How long did it take to arrive where?
I have it all installed now, was a bit of a ***** losing all the loom of wires behind the dash so won't be able to take a picture of the connector sorry.
Played with the wiring the other night to try and sort the radio losing my preset stations, but I managed to drain the battery over night so put it back!
Other than the radio I'm really happy with the unit, got mine from xtrons UK, arrived the next day. When I get a minute I'll take some pictures, just missing a new facia trim on back order from skoda.
Looks like Xtrons has reseased another unit for the VAG group: PB96MTVAPL, its like a PB86MTVAP without DVD, with a higher screen 9" vs 8" and a little bit cheaper. Also, I see no SD slots, though the webpage states it has.
Hi, I'm considering the x trons PB86MTVAP, does anyone know which chipset this comes with? I'm a little concerned that it isn't listed on the website.
s-tasos said:
I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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Hi there,
If you are a girl will choose the design ... I'm kidding ...
The most important things are the specifications of the 1. Main board (integrates all the components, can limit some characteristics of components and the speed) 2. Processor (this set the power speed with less power consumption so I recommend octa-core) 3. Memory (much with higher speed better I recommend 4GB RAM and 32GB ROM with right speed) 4. Display (HD 1024x600 minimum) 5. Access for external devices like Rear CCD IR View Camera night-vision waterproof, DVR Full-HD night-vision camera for traffic recording, SD card for mp3 audio and mp4 video files, SD card for GPS maps and installation files, USB connectors, antennas for GPS and radio, the right power connector for your car (carefull), bluetooth for your mobile phone (check depending of your android or IOS if work) and the most important check the REAL DIMENSIONS to can fit in your car and fix it well to can not easy be take out from somebody (you need have also the right KEYS put in the 4 holes for the right installation). Maybe are also other extra but they are not so important believe me ...
Best regards,
Maybe you don't need to have all the best specifications (depending for what you want to use) because the payment will be higher
Hello
I have a 1991 R129 500SL that has a single din radio slot, so I'm looking for a single din android unit, 2 Din isn't possible in this car without lots of cutting and modifications, which is something I'm not willing to venture into.
I'm looking for a single din android unit with preferably the latest possible OS, iPod control or the ability to connect to a 2.5 external HDD. iPod control is very important to me as my entire music library is on my iPod classic. My second option would be to connect an external hard disk to the unit.
I would like to have a unit that has most of the slots on the rear end with a clean front interface with the option to change button colors to match my ambient lighting.
I've trying to some pictures of my current setup and what my center console looks like, doesn't seem to be an option to post pictures from my phone.
Anyways, any help is really appreciated guys.
Thank you
No one has an idea about single din android units that can control an iPod classic?
Any aftermarket apps perhaps to make this work?
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No one has an idea about single din android units that can control an iPod classic?
Any aftermarket apps perhaps to make this work?
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https://www.amazon.com/PIONEER-AVH-X7800BT-1Din-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B017LKVMAS/
Probably your bet bet is something like this.
There's about 0 market for Single-DIN android, the entire market is double-DIN now.
As for that unit there, it isn't android but the Pioneer units are decent. I've used 2 of them in the past, but double-DIN.
Personally, I have no interest in the motorized fold-out screens. So here's a Joying Sofia unit which is single-Din mount, but with a double-DIN screen.
https://www.amazon.com/Autoradio-Bluetooth-Navigation-Aftermarket-Multimedia/dp/B01M8JHSP3/
I hope your vents aren't in the way!
Thanks for your reply.
I did buy the Pioneer 7800BT unit but I returned it the next day, as it tends to stall quite often when playing songs from my iPod and takes a long time to switch between tracks.
Also the Appradio mode is very impracticable, I need to keep my phone connected via usb which means no iPod. Also I need to install a specific Pioneer keyboard on my S7 edge otherwise the keyboard won't show up on the head unit for any input. This means I have to keep switching keyboards in my phone whenever I enter or exit the car. Also you can't really use google maps or anything like that as Appradio One is not true mirroring, I can only see a map with no nav options or turn by turn guidance.
You can use waze but there is a problem with the screen formatting, a lot of prompts are off-screen. It's not properly configured for this head unit.
All in all, it was a very poor effort by Pioneer so I returned it. I saw the joying units but they won't fit my console as you can see from the pics below, and they don't support iPod, and neither do Pumpkin head units.
It's been a while XDA oh how i miss thee. I left for a while as I went to the darkside (iphone since i needed something 'secure' for work) but I'm back with an android device and I'm super stoked. Just finished installing A6Y2721PRB in my Solara JBL 2006 w/ the dreaded JBL Amplifier. Honestly one of the cleanest installs I've done in a while. Also I needed to do this urgently as my radio crapped out and I was driving around without any controls in Los Angeles traffic. I used a harness kit so I wouldn't have to tap into the factory wires and from there every connection from the harness to the gps/camera/wifi/mic/etc you name it, was super easy
Pros
- Incredibly fast. When they say 2s boot up time ,they man it.
- It's a beatufiul headunit. Polished packaging and device you really feel confident it'll last. Everything was considered when designing this unit.
- Double Din fit is on point. I recommend getting the headunit first and then seeing how it fits in the car before needing anything else (unless you dont have a double din already.)
- No issues at all with visibility at night or in the day
- I might be over excited but the camera looks better on this headunit
- Hotspot internet from my phone to the device and it's as if the unit has internet seamless
- Also support team is super helpful with any questions so definitely dont hesitate reaching out to them
Cons
- Not many really. At this point there might be 5% that might be good or bad but that's always related to Android experience
- Customization is there but i wish it was easier. I have spoken with support and they are looking to add something in the future
- Honestly I'm glad the unit doesn't need it but the Screen Protector could be better if you did install
One of the major gripes I have with units is install. That's 50% of it and needing this installed quickly I was super happy that the install was smooooth. Can i add more o's lol. The upgrade is worth it knowing that the unit will last and be current with all the features that you can want out of a unit. One of the benefits too that you'll find in good companies is that their support team is there to assist with any issues or questions you might have. Everything on the unit is crystal clear and being able to use 2 devices on bluetooth means thats i wont have to keep disconnecting and reconnecting based on whichever device connects. Google search and you can find the unit, I don't want to mention Seller companies
I also have this unit. It is a GREAT unit! I also have a NEX8200NEX in another car. Also, I previously had an Eonon. The ATOTO is by far the best of all of them and leaps and bounds over ANY Pioneer, Alpine, Kenwood or other "standard" Android unit. My sole complaint with ATOTO is the size of the unit is just slightly off the standard double-din size. That being said, it will not fit any Metra install kit, which is the standard kit used when installing auto head units. Otherwise this unit should be respected over ALL the other Android head units: Joying and Pumpkin can't hold a candle!
How are the Bluetooth calls with this unit?
Is the WiFi good?
Are there software updates?
How is the Apple CarPlay working?
I like the idea of this unit, but to fit it in my car (Prius 3 from 2010) I will loose the side buttons I have with the current android unit which looks very good, but as almost all of them Bluetooth calls are horrible. Because of that I use CarPlay and forget about the unit functions.
WiFi is very weak and only usable with a phone as AP and very close AP.
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How are the Bluetooth calls with this unit?
Is the WiFi good?
Are there software updates?
How is the Apple CarPlay working?
I like the idea of this unit, but to fit it in my car (Prius 3 from 2010) I will loose the side buttons I have with the current android unit which looks very good, but as almost all of them Bluetooth calls are horrible. Because of that I use CarPlay and forget about the unit functions.
WiFi is very weak and only usable with a phone as AP and very close AP.
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Bluetooth is good, especially if you install the external mic, and increase the mic gain in settings from the somewhat low default.
WiFi is good as long as you choose a good mounting location for the antenna. I do most of my updates in my driveway which has three interior walls, one concrete block exterior wall, and about fifty feet between my car and my old Linksys N WiFi router. Best antenna location is under glass and away from metal, worst is inside pillars or under dash.
Firmware updates about every two months, give or take, in my 8 months of experience with Atoto units.
CarPlay? What's CarPlay?
Croak said:
Bluetooth is good, especially if you install the external mic, and increase the mic gain in settings from the somewhat low default.
WiFi is good as long as you choose a good mounting location for the antenna. I do most of my updates in my driveway which has three interior walls, one concrete block exterior wall, and about fifty feet between my car and my old Linksys N WiFi router. Best antenna location is under glass and away from metal, worst is inside pillars or under dash.
Firmware updates about every two months, give or take, in my 8 months of experience with Atoto units.
CarPlay? What's CarPlay?
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how do you increase the mic gain??
Hey guys,
Hoping to hear your thoughts and opinions, the good/bad/ugly.
I'm about to buy my first Android Head Unit but have been trying to get something like this going for a long time.
Here's the "Wish List" I've made to weed out the unit I want.
Unit:
Universal
Double/2 Din
PX6
4GB RAM
64GB ROM
Screen:
10"+ HD IPS (unless there's an OLED out there)
Lowest Profile available (distance been back of screen and dash)
No need to pan, but adjusting up and down and tilt are a plus
No branding
Preferably little or no buttons
No visible ports
OS:
Android 9.0, hopefully, upgradable to 10
Extensions:
Bluetooth -> Support for 2x Paired Phones at once able to receive calls or stream music would be great!
Wireless Apple Car Play
Android Auto
MicroSD card support of 256GB or higher
DPS
Dual-Band WiFi
1+ Video Input NOT back up cam (Plan on attaching a Nintendo Switch as an input device. I haven't seen anything higher resolution on input than just CVBS, but if one existed that would help? Or the support of USB 3 Video Dongle (USB to HDMI)
Right now, this has led me to this one
Dasaita HA2156A-MAX6
There's so much "noise" in this space with the hundreds of resellers/OEMs and scammers that I think I'm just going to pull the trigger on this and see what happens.
But before I do, if anyone has any better options, or thoughts/words of wisdom, please pass them along!
Thanks in advance!
I also really like the ATOTO A6Y1021PR but it's spec'd so low compared to the others and is running Kitkat (what the hell???)
I also really like some of the Xtrons, but couldn't get the specs. If I go wth a PX5 then they have tons of options, but couldn't find a 10+ screen with PX6
I'm interested in this too, I've been looking for a while at Android head units and while my wallet says go a basic double din 6-7" screen, the rest of me says go for that PX6 with the 10" screen.
I'm looking at getting the single DIN so that I can keep the little storage place below it, the only storage in my entire car (75 Series Land Cruiser Ute). If anyone knows of any reason not to, feel free to chime in, but otherwise I'm going to go the same route as you '82. The Maxx6 looks like the only PX6 with a massive screen from a reputable brand
My experience is that some of the specs are best described as "rubbery". Some of the good value units include marketing graphics which are copy-pasted to assist sales and are not wholly accurate.
Ideally one would like to see a pic the summary screen.
Casual research indicates ATOTO delivers the goods!-IMHO
There is not one single (cheap) Chinese brand supporting to pair 2 phones at once.
Only a few of the latest PX6 models support dual-band wifi. Most only support 2.4GHz.
Support for Apple Car Play and Android Auto can be tricky. Especially if your phone is on android 9. Support for android 10 (released today on 3 September 2019!) might take quite some time.
1+ Video Input: Haven't seen that yet.
Dasaita is a very good choice but does not support the above mentioned wishes either.
and what is DPS? or do you mean DSP?
You can get lower profile by "burying" the double din instead of flushmounting it to dash/adapter bracket
I've been enjoying my admittedly under-powered ATOTO A6 Pro for months now, and while I don't have experience with other Android Head Units, I've gained some perspective. Mainly, we're not really talking about buying an Android tablet here!
Android tablets are obsolete after a year or three, but my lexus is 20 years old and (with certain updates) I still love it. I've realized that although I wish I didn't have to put up with quite so much lag while interacting with certain android apps running on the ATOTO (Google Maps responsiveness is painfully slow), I'm really glad about the ways that the A6 Pro behaves like a car stereo head unit should: It has a great display that's easy to see in all lighting; It's on instantly after the car's ignition (with minimal battery drain while the car is parked); great bluetooth aptX audio streaming and call handling; the backup camera view is instantaneous after shifting to reverse (with optional volume reduction while in reverse), it can drive 4 speakers (6 if you count the component tweeters surprisingly well at 29W RMS each without an external amp (while supplying my powered subwoofer with a clean line output), etc, etc.
So with the A6 Pro one learns to keep most apps on the adjacent SmartPhone (even if you're not choosing to use Android Auto or CarPlay which mostly run apps on the phone), and mostly run media apps that are easily handled on the head unit. I've never been bothered that my car stereo is running marshmallow or whatever instead of Android 10.
My phone is running Android 10 and is distracting enough as a responsive/powerful android device. And while it would be cool if it were faster, my car's head unit is more about good music and phone integration while driving (or while parked and listening to/watching media .
Looking at upgrading unit I've currently got in my car. Im leaning towards Teyes CC3 with 2k screen but wondering if any other suggestions. These are the few things I am looking for specifically.
Needs to be flat back or single din. The hole I'm working with cannot current fit a double din design, but I've built an adapter to work with flat screen so it floats a little out in front of things. Also don't need any kind of canbus support. Car is old and doesn't use anything I need to tap into on that system.
1. Front, Rear, And Subwoofer RCA Preouts
2. DSP would be welcome, but I would love it to have subwoofer control. (Right now I'm sharing front channels with rear speaker and then I have a seperate sub out that's on the rear channel but no internal control on the head unit for it besides turning it off.
3. Octacore or higher processor
4. 10.1 inch screen
5. 5g wifi is not a deal breaker but would definitely be nice to have.