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Is it USB3?
Where can I buy one to recharge my n7 in 2h30min?like original cable.
Mine is dead....
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Its a normal micro USB cable, USB 2. A cable is a cable, most of them should work (all of them actually, a standard is a standard...)
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issak42 said:
Its a normal micro USB cable, USB 2 ... most of them should work (all of them actually, a standard is a standard...)
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+1 Look around, the Asus charger is rated at 2A and that's the "trick" for fast charging, modules/generic by others are often rated at .5A to .7A like those in (non-smart) phone days from Motorola & LG's or even Samsung's. The standard/universal micro-usb cable from HTC's are great (got like half of a dozen of them around) and their charger is rated at 1A and it will charge the N7 at a slower pace, but it's fine for overnight and so far so good, no problems (knock on woods - )
Oh, yeah, BTW - those generic ones from eBay or sold on Amazon as a bundle are just as good in that, they work too - dah dah. From what I know, practically all of these cables - branded or otherwise, are made in China ...
Do you have a cell phone? Most likely it uses the same cable. I charge my S2 and N7 with the same charger/cable combo. You can find one at almost any cell phone store.
Every USB Cable will fit as long as its a micro USB. loads of places sell them but eBay would be your best bet, PC World is a rip off
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Cheap thin cables have significant resistance, and do not deliver 5 volts at one amp. If the drop is severe, the Nexus will go into slow charge mode, like charging from a PC.
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I was also under the impression that the supplied N7 cable is a USB3 cable and the charger output is 5V @ 2Amps. If I use the original charger, I can substitute my Bionic cable and it seems to charge just as well. The supplied cable is quite thin compared to the typical usb2 cable.
Nexus 7 > Nexus 7 General > [SOLVED] Nexus 7 charger/cable issues.
USB3 is an entirely different kind of connector and has minimal PC support as of yet and is not backwards compatible. USB2 is almost universally supported by virtually every PC manufacturer.
Miami_Son said:
USB3 is an entirely different kind of connector and has minimal PC support as of yet and is not backwards compatible. USB2 is almost universally supported by virtually every PC manufacturer.
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AFAIK USB3 isn't entirely different from USB2, and actually backwards compatible. I have USB3 HDD Drive and can easily connect it to my old laptop or USB2 port on my PC. same with my USB3 card reader, i can use it on my USB2 with no problem. Downside just reduced speed, USB3 to USB2 will only reached max speed of USB2 capable of.
I have two USB3 ports on my desktop and they look nothing like the standard USB2 ports. I also have a USB3 hard drive and its cable will not fit anything but the USB3 ports on my desktop.
According to Tom's, there are significant differences even if you can plug one into the other.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-superspeed-external-drive,2670-2.html
Max speed will always reduced if you plug USB3 device to USB2 ports.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#USB_3.0_connectors
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I have two USB3 ports on my desktop and they look nothing like the standard USB2 ports. I also have a USB3 hard drive and its cable will not fit anything but the USB3 ports on my desktop.
According to Tom's, there are significant differences even if you can plug one into the other.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/usb-3.0-superspeed-external-drive,2670-2.html
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The first caption in the article you list says "USB 3.0 Type A Connector. Yes, it’s backward compatible with USB 2.0." which contradicts your statement about your hard drive and cable. You may be thinking about the micro USB Type B connector for usb 3, which is a different thing entirely.
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The first caption in the article you list says "USB 3.0 Type A Connector. Yes, it’s backward compatible with USB 2.0." which contradicts your statement about your hard drive and cable. You may be thinking about the micro USB Type B connector for usb 3, which is a different thing entirely.
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I am only going off what's on MY motherboard as far as connectors and they are visually different from the USB2 connectors. My USB3 HDD enclosure came with its own cable and the end that plugs into the USB3 ports on my MB does not fit the USB2 ports. Apparently, it shouldn't be that way, but it is.:silly:
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I am only going off what's on MY motherboard as far as connectors and they are visually different from the USB2 connectors. My USB3 HDD enclosure came with its own cable and the end that plugs into the USB3 ports on my MB does not fit the USB2 ports. Apparently, it shouldn't be that way, but it is.:silly:
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I'm very curious to see what the connectors look like on your MoBo as I am not aware of any that have a non standard USB connector of any kind, as such a thing should not exist.
Would you be able to take a photo, for curiosity's sake?
Wiki on usb3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Connectors
Reeonimus said:
I'm very curious to see what the connectors look like on your MoBo as I am not aware of any that have a non standard USB connector of any kind, as such a thing should not exist.
Would you be able to take a photo, for curiosity's sake?
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I'm currently in L.A. until 2/26, so not until then. I was somewhat surprised myself because I assumed they would be backward compatible, but there is definitely something different on the USB3 end of the cable and on my motherboard that prevented me from plugging it into any of the USB2 ports.
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I'm very curious to see what the connectors look like on your MoBo as I am not aware of any that have a non standard USB connector of any kind, as such a thing should not exist.
Would you be able to take a photo, for curiosity's sake?
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Yeah that strange to have non standard usb ports on pc. Maybe its esata or something.
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As I find the USB cable provided with the charger to be too short, I ordered a cheap 2m cable. This cable is quite tight if I want to push it into the USB port of my Nex4, so I was wondering if it is safe to use; are micro USB ports very vulnerable?
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Remcotjuuh said:
As I find the USB cable provided with the charger to be too short, I ordered a cheap 2m cable. This cable is quite tight if I want to push it into the USB port of my Nex4, so I was wondering if it is safe to use; are micro USB ports very vulnerable?
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Micro USB is designed in such a way the plug wears out quicker than the socket (as it is easier/cheaper to replace the cable), so a well used plug may be loser than a newer one. Can you remember how tight the original was when you first used it?
If this new cable is tighter than the original I would be inclined to say do not use it. A cheap one is probably not made to the correct specifications and if this is the case it could damage the socket in the phone.
Buy cheap buy twice.
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Phil
Thanks for your reply. It certainly is tighter than the original was at first, so I guess I won't use it for my phone then. It was only three bucks and most things I bought from China wholesales/warehouses were actually quite good concerning quality, so I don't mind it.
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Hey there
I have a nexus 7 (not the 2013 edition) and the USB cable with it has just broke. I tried using the cable from my SGS3 and the connector is shorter and just falls out. So I was unsure if the Nexus need a long one or the SGS3 uses a short one?
Thanks Mala
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I've used them interchangeably.
The OEM N7 one might be a little 'fatter', but that's manufacturing tolerances....
Just the luck of the draw.
Many cords will work for charging, but many of those will not work on a pc-usb connection for data transfer. Try a different usb cord for a better fit to the microusb port and be sure to test it with the pc connection.
When I connect my G2 to my PC, I get the message about how it will benefit from a 3.0 USB port. As far as I can tell the USB adapter it comes with isn't a 3.0 compatible cord. I was thinking about ordering one from Amazon. What do you guys think?
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Looking at the connection, a 3.0 micro cable will not connect to this phone. Wonder why I get that message. I'm guessing that this is a misnomer my PC is throwing up.
My guess is this is just a generic warning Windows 7 likes to put out for anything it thinks might be usb 3.0 compatible
DroidSloth said:
My guess is this is just a generic warning Windows 7 likes to put out for anything it thinks might be usb 3.0 compatible
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No other phone or tablet I have ever used has said this, even some new ones using Snapdraon 600 chipsets. My guess is that the Snapdragon 800 in our phones does in fact feature a USB 3.0 controller for it, but we probably just have the port for a 2.0 cable which is standard.
EDIT: found this:
LG’s G2 is equipped with the Snapdragon 800, a 2.26GHz quad-core Krait CPU paired with the Adreno 330 GPU. It supports USB 3.0, up to 4K video playback and capture, and supports Quick Charge 2.0 for up to 75% faster charging times.
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When I connect my G2 to my PC, I get the message about how it will benefit from a 3.0 USB port. As far as I can tell the USB adapter it comes with isn't a 3.0 compatible cord. I was thinking about ordering one from Amazon. What do you guys think?
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I am seeing the same error. Based on the color of the USB on the supplied cable, it is not a 3.0 cable. However, the device is 3.0.
I am having issues finding a USB 3 to USB micro (not micro B) cable. It would be nice to have when the time comes to start moving ROMs from the desktop to the device :laugh:
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I am seeing the same error. Based on the color of the USB on the supplied cable, it is not a 3.0 cable. However, the device is 3.0.
I am having issues finding a USB 3 to USB micro (not micro B) cable. It would be nice to have when the time comes to start moving ROMs from the desktop to the device :laugh:
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Did you see the pic I posted above? A 3.0 micro usb cable has extra pins and it's a different shape. The chipset might have 3.0 architecture, but the port is only 2.0. Maybe on a future model this might com about, but not on this phone.
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Did you see the pic I posted above? A 3.0 micro usb cable has extra pins and it's a different shape. The chipset might have 3.0 architecture, but the port is only 2.0. Maybe on a future model this might com about, but not on this phone.
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Yes, I did, and the emoticons in my post were not intentional, as they are supposed to be the letter B.
The cable you posted is not what we are looking for. We need to determine if there is such a cable as a USB 3 to USB micro. This is different than the pictured cable, which is UB 3.0 to USB Micro B.
I do not have my stock cable handy, so I cannot remember if it is USB 3 at all. Is the plastic blue inside the USB side?
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Yes, I did, and the emoticons in my post were not intentional, as they are supposed to be the letter B.
The cable you posted is not what we are looking for. We need to determine if there is such a cable as a USB 3 to USB micro. This is different than the pictured cable, which is UB 3.0 to USB Micro B.
I do not have my stock cable handy, so I cannot remember if it is USB 3 at all. Is the plastic blue inside the USB side?
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I think you're a little confused. You refer to "USB Micro" and "USB Micro B" as if they are different connectors. They are not. Yes, people commonly refer to it as a micro USB connector, but only because they don't know or drop the "B". The LG G2 has a USB 2.0 micro B connector on it. It does not have a USB 3.0 micro B connector on it. The cable pictured earlier in the thread is the proper USB 3.0 A to Micro B cable. Obviously, it won't fit in the LG G2, because the LG G2 does not have a USB 3.0 micro B connector. This does make it very strange that a computer would pop up a message saying that the device would work better on a USB 3.0 port when it doesn't have the necessary physical connector to support USB 3.0 but, well, sometimes technology does strange things.
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Yes, I did, and the emoticons in my post were not intentional, as they are supposed to be the letter B.
The cable you posted is not what we are looking for. We need to determine if there is such a cable as a USB 3 to USB micro. This is different than the pictured cable, which is UB 3.0 to USB Micro B. I do not have my stock cable handy, so I cannot remember if it is USB 3 at all. Is the plastic blue inside the USB side?
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What is a micro cable that's not a B? You mean a micro A?
The stock charge cable is not 3.0.
Can't you just check the transfer speeds?
The Lg G2 micro usb is not a Hdmi port, but it still supports it, through a MHL adapter. So maybe it also supports usb 3?
I am wondering if we can disassemble the phone and replace the USB board with a board that has a USB3 port soldered to it. Then of course also cut out the outer case shell to have a bigger hole. Wouldnt look as nice but it sure would be nice getting much faster speeds since both the chipset and storage system are easily capable of so much more.
Also, this is what a USB3 micro-B connector would look like on a phone:
The micro USB port is not MHL incompatible. It uses slimport like the Nexus 4.
Based on the service manual and the physical configuration of the port I believe that this phone has a USB 3.0 port, but we just don't have a cable or adapter yet to access the rear pins. Attached is a sketch I made showing what the port looks like. The service manual on page 468 supports the physical configuration of the port (3 pins on each side of central standard usb 2.0 5pins ). I am hoping the Nexus 5 will have this port and help LG push out the necessary adapter. I hope we can get some official confirmation on this at some point. I would use USB 3.0 for transferring or recording video directly to flash drive. There is also a potential for 4K recording like the Note 3. So big files would be common place while recording a 4K. 4K streaming from a G2 to a ultra HD tv has already been demonstrated at a trade show in August.
So yes, I believe a micro USB 3.0 port could be added, but by no means would it be easy, or look right. Best just hope for an adapter.
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Hosehead said:
Yes, I did, and the emoticons in my post were not intentional, as they are supposed to be the letter B.
The cable you posted is not what we are looking for. We need to determine if there is such a cable as a USB 3 to USB micro. This is different than the pictured cable, which is UB 3.0 to USB Micro B.
I do not have my stock cable handy, so I cannot remember if it is USB 3 at all. Is the plastic blue inside the USB side?
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The LG G2 definitely does have a USB 3.0 connector, but unfortunately it is a proprietary non-standard connector. See my previous post. I can not find a cable with this strange new connector anywhere.
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What is a micro cable that's not a B? You mean a micro A?
The stock charge cable is not 3.0.
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When they are saying its an A cable or B cable, they are really talking about the what the end connector will be. Think of the A connector as the standard usb connector you connect to your computer or to your wall charger. Then think of the B connector as the tiny usb connector you connect to your cell phone or tablet.
Companies sell A to A usb cables or A to B cables (which is what all cell phones use). A simple wiki search on usb will help clear things up.
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You're saying it is USB3 compatible, then is this why the plug feels very tight to fit into the connection port? Sometimes it even makes a bit of a cracking sound, as if its not connecting properly, before finally fitting properly.
Looking into the connector, it does look a bit different from my Razrs connector.
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You're saying it is USB3 compatible, then is this why the plug feels very tight to fit into the connection port? Sometimes it even makes a bit of a cracking sound, as if its not connecting properly, before finally fitting properly.
Looking into the connector, it does look a bit different from my Razrs connector.
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That is probably for the most part because it new, but can't say for sure. My Google Nexus was getting quite loose, and I know it was tight in the beginning. It doesn't have anything to do with the proprietary USB 3.0 connector because if the plug is ever released it will be about twice as long as a standard micro USB 2.0 to reach the extra pins. I still can't figure out anything more about it.
Unfortunately from comparing various tear down of the LG G2 and the FCC teardown pictures of the Nexus 5, the Nexus 5 looks to have a standard micro USB 2.0. Definitely not as wide as a standard USB 3.0 and not as deep as the LG G2 proprietary USB 3.0 connector.
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That is probably for the most part because it new, but can't say for sure. My Google Nexus was getting quite loose, and I know it was tight in the beginning. It doesn't have anything to do with the proprietary USB 3.0 connector because if the plug is ever released it will be about twice as long as a standard micro USB 2.0 to reach the extra pins. I still can't figure out anything more about it.
Unfortunately from comparing various tear down of the LG G2 and the FCC teardown pictures of the Nexus 5, the Nexus 5 looks to have a standard micro USB 2.0. Definitely not as wide as a standard USB 3.0 and not as deep as the LG G2 proprietary USB 3.0 connector.
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Still, there's something off about the charger on the G2. It doesn't match my Razr one, but the Razr plug fits in the G2. The other way around works, but is very, very tight.
Where did you find the breakdown of the G2? I've been looking but didn't find anything.
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Still, there's something off about the charger on the G2. It doesn't match my Razr one, but the Razr plug fits in the G2. The other way around works, but is very, very tight.
Where did you find the breakdown of the G2? I've been looking but didn't find anything.
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The service manual is at the following post, but only has schematics. Anything you find that I missed please let me know. The last page of the manual would have the detail we need, but it is only a draft and it is missing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2437403
LG G2 Service Manuals (LS980/VS980/D803)
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Am I the only one that is going crazy trying to figure out where we can find the proprietary plug/connector to fully utilize the USB 3.0 our micro-USB port?
It is also driving me nuts to see if 4K video recording will ever be possibly. I would like to record 4K directly to a USB 3.0 thumb drive.
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I bought my S6 about 1 month ago and since then I have charged it with different micro usb cables.Afew days ago the phone was showing random "top up's" on screen like "power sharing connected",Samsung VR" and yesterday I couldn't charge my phone .I have been to Samsung Care shop to see what's going on.I left it for 1 day to fix it.Thanks God I didn't root it and didn't break the knox to 0x1 and them done the service for free under warranty for 2 years by Samsung.The Engineer told me to not use foreign micro usb cables to S6 because it's different micro usb and it will break.I hope someone will listen to me and to not do whst I done.The normal price to replace usb port to S6 is £253 so be careful guys.
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I bought my S6 about 1 month ago and since then I have charged it with different micro usb cables.Afew days ago the phone was showing random "top up's" on screen like "power sharing connected",Samsung VR" and yesterday I couldn't charge my phone .I have been to Samsung Care shop to see what's going on.I left it for 1 day to fix it.Thanks God I didn't root it and didn't break the knox to 0x1 and them done the service for free under warranty for 2 years by Samsung.The Engineer told me to not use foreign micro usb cables to S6 because it's different micro usb and it will break.I hope someone will listen to me and to not do whst I done.The normal price to replace usb port to S6 is £253 so be careful guys.
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and what is foreing usd? Put a photo please
Foreign usb I meant any micro usb cable like s3 S4 S5 htc sony phones that have micro usb port.use just the genuine S6 cable
mariolcela said:
Foreign usb I meant any micro usb cable like s3 S4 S5 htc sony phones that have micro usb port.use just the genuine S6 cable
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ok! and otg cable?
Any cable that is not Samsung S6/Egde original.Its need to be compatible with S6
USB is a standard and the connectors are the same but I agree that some cables might have different connector covers so it might push agains the case and force the usb connector.
On a side note you should black out your information. I can see your name, address, all your phone numbers, your phone serial/imei too...
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Any cable that is not Samsung S6/Egde original.Its need to be compatible with S6
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Sorry that's crap.
A micro USB connector is a standard part, unless you are buying horribly cheap junk maybe, they will all fit fine.
I have used several cables and not hurt the phone at all.
I buy a kignstons usb duo 3.0 64gb for 22 dólars.... that's means I can't use in my S6?
using my OTG usb stick with the S6.... Works. It's a bull**** comment from the repair service...
Lets just hope this won't be an S3 disaster where the USB port was a weak point. My GFs S3 had the S3 USB port problem, where it would start charging very slow due to bad USB port and a week ago, stopped charging completly, unless kept in a specific angle. On my S3, all cables worked that I had, for hers, only 1 cable made a "good" connection.
the repair service has got it half right
regarding physical damage to the port:
what you want to make sure is that other USB cables don't cause stress to the USB port... as you may have noticed, different microUSB cables have different size plugs (the same microUSB metal connector, but the plastics surrounding it are different sized)... we must make sure our cases don't interfere with the cable plug (many case manufacturers only design their case with the original samsung cable in mind, which might not be big enough for plugs like the monoprice microUSB ferrite cable, which has a large rectangular plug)
all the above is moot if you don't use a case
edit: and update with a video to explain what i was mumbling about
regarding electrical damage to the port:
you'd be safe to stick with OEM quality USB AC adapters or other big-name (Anker makes a lot of them) USB AC adapters... but STAY AWAY from those no-name cheap china adapters!! those have poor power filtering, electrical noise, poor grounding, etc....
Just because it fits in the same hole and has the same pins doesn't mean it's compatible. Using a cable not made for fast charging on an S6 would be like trying to jump start a car with a lamp cord. It could overheat at the cable, connector or battery. That's why using the wrong charger or cable voids most warranties. Here's one such case, if you are interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/oneplus-one-melted-t3008581
The OP is lucky Samsung honored his warranty.
I call BS. MicroUSB is an industry standard. If they were not compatible not only would they not be able to call it that, but they would be subject to sanctions for violation the requirements for using standard cables ports of which the MicroUSB is currently is.
While you might not get the faster charge if you don't use their cable and their charger unless you are using very poorly made cables you will be just fine.
I charge my s6 most of the time with a BlackBerry charger for one of their discontinued tablets. 1.8A with 6ft fixed cable, I have 6 of them, they charge everything from tablets to phones. The white "short" Samsung cable and charger is in the box.
NOT ALL USB CABLES ARE MADE EQUAL:
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-micro-usb-cable/
NOT ALL USB CHARGERS ARE MADE EQUAL:
http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
I think you should black out your serial imei
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Guys I just done a warning what's happened with my phone becose i used different types of micro usb cables.I don't want that to happen to your phones.But this is up to you.Sorry about my ime I have to delete the picture.
mariolcela said:
Guys I just done a warning what's happened with my phone becose i used different types of micro usb cables.I don't want that to happen to your phones.But this is up to you.Sorry about my ime I have to delete the picture.
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It is a valid warning, I live I EU and I think that I can trust shops here to sell me good product ... I use original mini USB cables for all my gadgets and all of them are the same but even dispite that on my ex phone I had flimsy connection due to some damage to USB port even I used original cable and I give credit to my using the phone during charging and the fact that most of us use our little finger as a stand and then the USB tend to move a bit and damage is caused...
The truth is that not all are the same as some are faster and some are not ... But in the meaning of just the metal part of actual connector they should be the same by law if EU ...
Considering that in mind the only rule in buying accessory like cables should be are they been through a regulatory channels ....
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mariolcela said:
I bought my S6 about 1 month ago and since then I have charged it with different micro usb cables.Afew days ago the phone was showing random "top up's" on screen like "power sharing connected",Samsung VR" and yesterday I couldn't charge my phone .I have been to Samsung Care shop to see what's going on.I left it for 1 day to fix it.Thanks God I didn't root it and didn't break the knox to 0x1 and them done the service for free under warranty for 2 years by Samsung.The Engineer told me to not use foreign micro usb cables to S6 because it's different micro usb and it will break.I hope someone will listen to me and to not do whst I done.The normal price to replace usb port to S6 is £253 so be careful guys.
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I use my Nexus 6 charger & cable works fine. Very fast charging on both. Buy OEM cables, a bit more but no headaches...
I use either Qi charging or at home I have uGreen mUSB cables.
No issues with any.
Nor have I had with any phone I've owned.
And I've owned a LOT of phones (probably change my phone a minimum of twice a year)
This is not correct, at all!
Micro USB cables are a standard and every cable should be good to use in the S6. I use 3 cables with mine: The original cable, my Tab S cable and some cable I have for years (from an Huawei X5 or a Moto G, not sure) and haven't had any problem what so ever! As said before, just stay away from the 0,2€ chinese cables.
tiagovale2 said:
This is not correct, at all!
Micro USB cables are a standard and every cable should be good to use in the S6. I use 3 cables with mine: The original cable, my Tab S cable and some cable I have for years (from an Huawei X5 or a Moto G, not sure) and haven't had any problem what so ever! As said before, just stay away from the 0,2€ chinese cables.
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Why did that happen to me then?i never used chinese cables.i have been using my genuine s4 and htc cable and the damage happened for 1 month after i bought it.so that will happen one day to someone else.if u have a look to the s6 usb port its a small difference between the other phones.it looks thinner.The engineer that fixed my phone advised me to use just S6 genuine usb to my S6.If you know all the Samsung S series have problems with usb port.