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I got the Note 4 from two carriers when it released, knowing that I will want the Edge as my daily driver. The design is just too cool. Now that I have used several Note 4s and Note Edges for some time, I'm not so sure anymore.
Yes, the Edge design is interesting, it's a conversation piece. It gives the phone [yet] another leg up on those iOS fanboys. It does add the utility of shortcuts and information tickers. At the same time, I'm giving up on screen size and the use of any "edge action" (apps that can be triggered by touching the edge, not to be confused by the Note Edge). Apps such as PIE Control, APPSI, Smart Task Launcher, and Dock4Droid are all very useful for various purposes.
The Note Edge's screen is about 3/16" shorter than the Note 4 (and Note 3), and because of the Edge bar, its total useful screen width is also reduced. Especially when considering the native screen resolution, the seemingly small screen size differential makes a big difference, and again, when you consider the lost of "full right edge" use on the Note Edge.
I know that at the end of the day, it's what I want, how I use the device, how I customize, and what pleases me. I am simply sharing my thoughts.
At this point, I am on the fence whether I want to use the Note Edge or Note 4 as a daily driver....
Yes, you are 100% correct.... The edge screen is nothing more than a glorified side launcher, like PIE controls or even Toolbox on the S5. That being said, it does ADD functions that can not be had with any side launcher. Tickers, notifications, multiple layers of sort cuts such as touch to call contacts etc. As it has been said many times, this is a brand new concept and a niche device, development with be slower than for the Note and S series. Yes, the Edge is a side launcher, a freakin bad ass side launcher. Just wait a minute and you'll see things pick up.
I have another perspective to consider...
My Note 4 is white and my Note Edge is black... (Since T-Mobile/Samsung decided not to sell the white version)
I always buy white Note's... at some point I got a Black Note 3 but I quickly replaced the back door from black to white. The Black Note 3 with a white back door looked awesome. But in this case, with the Edge, I cannot even replace the back door to white because there is non on Ebay.... None on Amazon, and none anywhere... I also ALWAYS buy a Qi wireless receiver from Ebay.... this time... NO Qi wireless receiver for the Note Edge anywhere...
I ended up ordering a White Original Qi Wireless Back Door... At least I will have the white back door plus the Qi... but... IT WILL BE A FAT NOTE EDGE... lol and NO case will fit afterwards...
That's my dilemma...
Having just updated my Exynos Edge I prefer it to my Snapdragon Note 4. To be fair my Note 4 uses Knox so perhaps that has an effect on its speed. The Edge of the Note Edge adds to the business productivity features and therefore it is my preferred device
Hey there guys, I recognize a few names here primarily from the T-mobile Note 3 forums, where I'm still spending most of my xda time. I can't say that I'm particularly surprised to find posts such as this one here. I've described the Edge as a "device that I wanted to want", seeing a TON of potential, particularly with regard to productivity/mutli-tasking, in a new, cool-looking form factor. However, (shockingly) Samsung's implementation of the Edge bar made it kind of strange and gimmicky, so it was crossed off my wish-list.
Well, I'm paying you all a visit to bring over some excellent news which is currently rocking a couple of threads in the T-mobile Note 3 forums: @dwitherell, the creator of Tweaked ROM, officially stated that he has chosen the Note Edge as his next phone (i.e. to become home of Tweaked), and has already ordered one For those unfamiliar with it, Tweaked is an excellent TW based ROM with many very strong supporters. Many self-professed "flashaholics" put down the... flashahol upon discovering Tweaked and now strictly update. Additionally, Dwitherell is an extremely talented developer whose creations are always a pleasure to use and packed with very useful and creative features. He's also a really great, friendly, helpful guy! The need for xposed modules is far reduced when running Tweaked, because so many mods that can usually be accomplished by use of a module are baked right into the ROM. Last, as a side benefit, the Tweaked threads always have a very strong "community vibe" going on. It's always nice when your device has a nice active forum, with many friendly, helpful folks.... Expect to see many fitting that description migrating over to this forum in the near future
I actually received an extremely impressive list of devs who have also decided to continue their work on the Note Edge from a reliable source. I'm not exactly sure who has personally "revealed" that they've chosen the Edge as their next device and either already bought, or are definitely buying one, so I don't really want to mention anyone else, but there were 5 or 6 very talented people, and the person who sent me the list described it as "confirmed".
Anyway, my previous perception was that the Note Edge would be a great device if only it would be "fixed". It hit me as a "pleasant surprise" that that pretty much seems to be the plan! I personally was thinking that I'd pick up a Note 4, pretty much because, "Meh, there'll be nothing better until I can upgrade again." (Old version of the T-Mobile JUMP program). However, the Edge is now looking MUCH more appealing, Actually I feel like the prospect of "Tweaked Edge" is quite a bit more exciting than "Tweaked Note 4".
So hopefully that gives disappointed Edge owners something to look forward to. The Note Edge is about to blow up in popularity/desirability (at least among xda members). I definitely plan to get one myself in the near future. Any Tweaked fans should definitely check out the main Tweaked thread as well as the one in General, for a bit of entertainment if nothing else. Guess I'll catch you all again soon :good:
I read today that there will be a S6 Edge. If so, I'm going to kick my self in the a$$ for not waiting
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I read today that there will be a S6 Edge. If so, I'm going to kick my self in the a$$ for not waiting
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With this line of argument you'll never get a phone Look at the positive side: the more "Edge" devices are out the more attention the "Edge" themes will get!
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I read today that there will be a S6 Edge. If so, I'm going to kick my self in the a$$ for not waiting
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S6 won't have the S-Pen. For those who find the pen and larger display useful, the Note is the way to go. I have been riding on the Note cycle rather than the S cycle. The next S would come, then the next Note would follow with everything the S has + the pen and larger screen....
I know but i really did like the size of my S5. I had the Note 2, then the S5... The smaller screen was almost perfect for personally but i did miss the pen
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I know but i really did like the size of my S5. I had the Note 2, then the S5... The smaller screen was almost perfect for personally but i did miss the pen
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Technology wise the Note is Samsung's high end device so the S6 may have different cosmetics but i expect it won't be a step forward on specs.
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Hey there guys, I recognize a few names here primarily from the T-mobile Note 3 forums, where I'm still spending most of my xda time. I can't say that I'm particularly surprised to find posts such as this one here. I've described the Edge as a "device that I wanted to want", seeing a TON of potential, particularly with regard to productivity/mutli-tasking, in a new, cool-looking form factor. However, (shockingly) Samsung's implementation of the Edge bar made it kind of strange and gimmicky, so it was crossed off my wish-list.
Well, I'm paying you all a visit to bring over some excellent news which is currently rocking a couple of threads in the T-mobile Note 3 forums: @dwitherell, the creator of Tweaked ROM, officially stated that he has chosen the Note Edge as his next phone (i.e. to become home of Tweaked), and has already ordered one For those unfamiliar with it, Tweaked is an excellent TW based ROM with many very strong supporters. Many self-professed "flashaholics" put down the... flashahol upon discovering Tweaked and now strictly update. Additionally, Dwitherell is an extremely talented developer whose creations are always a pleasure to use and packed with very useful and creative features. He's also a really great, friendly, helpful guy! The need for xposed modules is far reduced when running Tweaked, because so many mods that can usually be accomplished by use of a module are baked right into the ROM. Last, as a side benefit, the Tweaked threads always have a very strong "community vibe" going on. It's always nice when your device has a nice active forum, with many friendly, helpful folks.... Expect to see many fitting that description migrating over to this forum in the near future
I actually received an extremely impressive list of devs who have also decided to continue their work on the Note Edge from a reliable source. I'm not exactly sure who has personally "revealed" that they've chosen the Edge as their next device and either already bought, or are definitely buying one, so I don't really want to mention anyone else, but there were 5 or 6 very talented people, and the person who sent me the list described it as "confirmed".
Anyway, my previous perception was that the Note Edge would be a great device if only it would be "fixed". It hit me as a "pleasant surprise" that that pretty much seems to be the plan! I personally was thinking that I'd pick up a Note 4, pretty much because, "Meh, there'll be nothing better until I can upgrade again." (Old version of the T-Mobile JUMP program). However, the Edge is now looking MUCH more appealing, Actually I feel like the prospect of "Tweaked Edge" is quite a bit more exciting than "Tweaked Note 4".
So hopefully that gives disappointed Edge owners something to look forward to. The Note Edge is about to blow up in popularity/desirability (at least among xda members). I definitely plan to get one myself in the near future. Any Tweaked fans should definitely check out the main Tweaked thread as well as the one in General, for a bit of entertainment if nothing else. Guess I'll catch you all again soon :good:
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Well said brother,in tweaked
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Well said brother,in tweaked
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Hey, there's one of those familiar names, good to see ya over here buddy! Pretty surprising/intriguing decision made by D (et al.) to upgrade to the Edge, eh?
I'm thinking that Tweaked probably won't be the first solid ROM available, as D tends to take a bit longer perfecting his releases. I can't wait to see what he comes up with though!
Man, I was "for sure" going to get a Note 4 actually the same day that I learned about all the devs who had decided continue their work on the Edge. I had a solid plan to go over to the store right when a shipment came in so that I could compare a few devices to be sure that I walked out with one lacking any unacceptable screen flaws, but then I bailed at the last second... can't tell you how glad I was to have not traded in my N3 running Tweaked 3.95 yet!
Anyway, great to see ya! Hope you enjoy the Edge as is until its full potential is unlocked :good:
I have noticed quite a few Galaxy Note II users online that are close to pulling the trigger on a new phone. I have been in that camp for a few months and finally did. I really don't have and major complaints about the Galaxy Note II but rather small quibbles about the device. So you have a basic idea of where I am coming from I'll let you know what I like and dislike about the Galaxy Note II.
GNOTE II Pros:
Good Specs - The phone has specs that are still considered above mid level and should still be a viable phone for at least a couple more years if properly updated...if.
Camera - I get pretty fair image clarity from the phone and when I need something better I'll break out a DSLR or my Galaxy Camera.
Voice - Very clear and loud.
S-Pen - Oh how I'll miss thee.
Capacitive Buttons/Physical Buttons - Well thought out for one-handed use.
Weight Its a bit heavy but I actually like the weight of this phone and could probably use it as a throwing-star analog to get the drop on somebody if I hit them square in the temple. But that really is not a concern for most people.
Hardware - Its well made and very resistant to drops with a simple TPU case.
GNOTE II Cons:
Updates - I'm on T-Mobile which has taken any chance it has to kill the possibility of future updates. Occasionally an errant voice on a messageboard out of T-Mobile Customer Support stating they have seen this in the works wafts across my screen but I have yet to see it come to fruition.
Samsung Ideology - Samsung products are good for a year then they release a new one as if you really need a new product from them. Samsung makes great products but rarely do they fix glaringly obvious mistakes after a year past its original creation. I currently am working on a Samsung monitor with a color calibration issue that has been reported and known by the company for years but never fixed but they fixed it on the new model of this monitor. My Galaxy Camera, while nice, suffers from insane Touchwiz lag and could use an update on fixing that but we won't see it because they released the Galaxy Camera 2. I am in the game for technology to last a minimum of 3 years running well. I realize the market is bleeding edge but the edge has gotten far less bloody than the G1 days. I shop for phones like I do TV's or computers now.
S-Pen Manufacturing - I've been through four S-Pens. I use it a lot for taking notes throughout the day as it feels more natural than typing on a computer screen. The S-Pen tends to randomly stop working without provocation. Then if you order a "100% OEM Samsung Factory S-Pen" most likely its a Chinese knock-off. I can't find true S-pens anymore which is a concern for owning a new Note.
Lack of Stable ROMS - Nearly everything I have tried causes issues with NFC or Bluetooth. I use bluetooth all the time for music to various speakers, headphones, or my car.
Knox - It does its stinking job too well. SU can run but it can't hide. I have lost SU so many times on this stupid phone it is ridiculous. Let alone the every 10 minutes my phone lets me know that Triangle Away is being activated. I don't do a lot of coding or tinkering but I do like finding ROM's with good utilitarian purposes. I remember swapcache back in the G1 days and enjoyed finding the next cool thing to do with my phone! We are past that time now, honestly, but if it isn't Samsung branded then Samsung doesn't want you to do it.
Samsung Services - "You have started S-Voice" NO I DIDN'T. "Saving contact to Samsung Contacts" Bad Samsung, stop it! I insanely dislike...nay..HATE how Samsung will not let you get rid of its version of things. My contact list was a thing of beauty running in the 100's with every person I needed to work with (I'm a teacher that does coordination work and administrative work for a school of 600+), their room numbers, email addresses, and everything you could think of until I bought a Samsung product. I have some names with 20 duplicates due to the way this beast handles contacts. I eventually just had executive function overload and decided to give up on being organized. I might bring that back to life soon.
Now that you have an idea of where I'm coming from this is what I think of the Nexus 6....
I like it!
The first thing I really enjoyed about this phone was the speed. I'm running it Stock, Rooted, and Encrypted (for now...maybe forever...I work at a school where my kids know how to build robots and get linux running on projectors so I wouldn't mind encryption on my devices) and loving the heck out of it. I was so impressed by simple things at first such as animations from opening folders as soon as my finger touched the screen whereas my Note II would lag for a good time without animations. In fact, turning on the device is so overwhelmingly stupidly simple to turn on. I can check the time by just pulling it out of my pocket without touching buttons where if I wanted to check the time on my Note I would have to wait 5 - 10 seconds after pressing the power button while pondering the ever present question, "Did I press that button?" which inevitably leads to "#$&(*, I pressed it again and turned it off!"
The next thing I noticed was the size and weight. It is a bit harder to use than my Galaxy Note II with one hand. I think if they reversed the capacitive Back button it would be a lot easier to use for us right handers. I may look in to figuring that out. Honestly, I almost feel like this thing is too thin and light. It feels well built and solid. Even with the SUPCASE I bought it still feels a little odd in my hands but that may be due to the weight being very centered in the deep area of the curve opposed to being consistently weighted. As a personal aside this is the first phone I have ever put a screen protector on WITHOUT BUBBLES....I..AM...A ....GOD!!! Well..maybe demigod. Needless to say, Spigen makes a fine screen protector.
Unlocking and rooting this thing was a breeze. Once I get paid in a couple of weeks I plan on donating to @WugFresh for at least a case of beer for his amazing Toolkit that will even walk you through setting up Windows 8 drivers! You can find that at http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/toolkit-wugs-nexus-root-toolkit-v1-9-8-t2947452
The camera is better than my Note II by simply being clearer which I'm assuming is to the better camera sensor. I haven't messed with it that much.
The screen and adaptive lighting are by far my favorite thing on this phone. I am probably in the minority on this but adaptive lighting is brilliant. I have seen a lot of people talking about how AMOLED is causing the reddish/purple/yellowish hues to blacks and grays at low light levels. I do not believe that is the fact. It seems like they are using some sort of blue light filtering for this in low light. As an insomniac I tend to send the wee hours of morning which I consider night perusing XDA, Twitter, and various other odds and ends of the internets and am so happy the screen actually gets dark. My Gnote II on the lowest setting was annoyingly bright. I thought I was a genius one day when I thought to use a blue screen filter and made it darker but lo and behold the backlit capacitive buttons attached directly to the stinking hardware on the Gnote II. Its like having someone flash their brights at you when you use one of those programs on the Note. Its annoying. The Nexus 6 takes no part in this and I would 100% recommend it for fellow insomniacs. It has helped me to get sleep a little bit quicker over the last couple days which is a nice benefit. Lets see if that keeps up though. I'm pretty immune to sleep.
Also the screen is really nice quality and reproduces blacks amazingly well. I'm an art teacher and art history buff so I usually check out different high quality images on my phone to see how good it looks. It seems to work very well at recreating the color and light of some of the paintings. My favorite to use for this test is Van Gogh's Starry Night Over Rhone. Eventually my phone gets used in the classroom when a student needs to look up an image and put on an easel (or kickstand case but haven't seen one I like yet) to display when my tablet or laptop is in use.
Battery life and charger! Its great. 'Nuff said.
I think the biggest negative so far is the volume of calls. My wife said I sound quieter than usual. I also can't hear people as loudly as I used to. The speakerphone does not travel as far as the Note when it absolutely should seeing as the speakers are fairly decent for a cell phone. I could see someone fixing this pretty easily in a ROM.
The other negative is the lack of some multitasking programs that Samsung had and of course the lack of S-Pen. I use a Huion H610 Pro at home for digital art and graphic design so I loved the fact that Samsung phones used similar tech but I absolutely abhor using capacitive styluses (styli?). I'll have to figure out something I can carry with me that will work like that with a similar feel.
Anyway, as of right now I'm extremely happy with this phone. I have had no issues as of yet and luckily no burn in however I do not like my phone to cause sunspots when I look away from it so I'm not expecting to have a huge problem with it. If you have some similar issues with the Galaxy Note II (which T-Mobile amplifies) then I would suggest jumping ship especially if you have crackflashing tendencies because there is no Samsung product without a Nexus name attached to it that will be as easy to deal with as this.
-Travis
Let me go ahead and apologize for the poor grammar and lengthy sentences. I'm sitting home from work sick today (XDA fun time does not happen between the hours of 7am to 5pm at work normally) with bronchitis. The medicine(s) I'm on must really like run-on sentences after I re-read that wall of text. I hope it helps someone after deciphering it, haha.
From one educator to another (I'm a school administrator and former classroom teacher), let me say 'well done!'. Before the Nexus 6, I was a proud Note owner for the last three years - Note 1 and Note 3 to be exact. After finding out that the Note 4 would be even more locked down than the 3, and deciding that I was getting really really tired of TouchWiz and truly loved what Lollipop's UI brought to the table, I made the jump. And I am just as pleased with my choice as you are. No more crazy contacts lists or S-Voice intrusions, amen. ......I do miss my old S-Pen though....
I'm using the Note 2 atm and I "really want" the Nexus 6 (64gb infact, hard to come by in Australia otherwise I probably would have one by now).
Using SlimKat now because the stock ROM was absolutely dreadful!! (Laaag!) The S-pen does not work out of the box on the current rom and I'm not missing it either... I'm ready for the Nexus and looking forward to using "modern speakers" on a phone.
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I'm using the Note 2 atm and I "really want" the Nexus 6 (64gb infact, hard to come by in Australia otherwise I probably would have one by now).
Using SlimKat now because the stock ROM was absolutely dreadful!! (Laaag!) The S-pen does not work out of the box on the current rom and I'm not missing it either... I'm ready for the Nexus and looking forward to using "modern speakers" on a phone.
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I also came from the note2 on tmobile and like the OP said, there was a lack of ROMs for the phone.
i ended up pulling the trigger on a white 32gb nexus 6 (i was looking for a 64gb but they were hard to find) the other day and like it very much. I think i rooted and unlocked the bootloader within 30mins of having the phone.
just trying to enable tethering on it right now is the only obstacle for me.
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Let me go ahead and apologize for the poor grammar and lengthy sentences. I'm sitting home from work sick today (XDA fun time does not happen between the hours of 7am to 5pm at work normally) with bronchitis. The medicine(s) I'm on must really like run-on sentences after I re-read that wall of text. I hope it helps someone after deciphering it, haha.
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I had a Note 4 from T-Mobile for a few days and I didn't care for it at all & I was coming from a S4 before getting the Note 4, So I decided to return it and got the Nexus 6 which is way better. I'll also be paying less then I would of been with the Note 4.
How does the screen brightness compare between the two?
How's the focusing speed compared to the note 2?
I'm trying to decide between this and the HTC m8. I have small kids so I need something with a quick focus and overall good durability. (I'm not really concerned with megapixel count.)
Thanks!
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From one educator to another (I'm a school administrator and former classroom teacher), let me say 'well done!'. Before the Nexus 6, I was a proud Note owner for the last three years - Note 1 and Note 3 to be exact. After finding out that the Note 4 would be even more locked down than the 3, and deciding that I was getting really really tired of TouchWiz and truly loved what Lollipop's UI brought to the table, I made the jump. And I am just as pleased with my choice as you are. No more crazy contacts lists or S-Voice intrusions, amen. ......I do miss my old S-Pen though....
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I plan on getting things back to normal now thankfully. My contacts are so much easier to get through now. Right now I'm in the midst of dealing with starting up after school programs for our school and will be editing Google Docs with this thing next week so I'll get a real test of how it works. I work at a charter school (part of the biggest charter school system in Texas: Harmony Public Schools) and since we don't have a bus system our after school clubs tend to be in the hundreds daily. I run around circles making sure everything is going right and people are in the right place so its helpful to be able to pull up a list on a decent size screen to find information on the go. Our school has been around 7 years and I've been there 6 years of that with only 2 people there longer than me so I tend to be the guy to ask about anything.
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How does the screen brightness compare between the two?
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With adaptive brightness off the Nexus 6 is noticeably brighter with better black levels and a warmer tone (not yellowish.) I keep it on most of the time and haven't had any problems seeing things. It has been raining here in South East Texas since I've owned the phone so if it ever clears up I'll let you know how it compares outside but I'm assuming it will be a bit better than the Note II.
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How's the focusing speed compared to the note 2?
I'm trying to decide between this and the HTC m8. I have small kids so I need something with a quick focus and overall good durability. (I'm not really concerned with megapixel count.)
Thanks!
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Ok, I did a couple of tests. First from picking it up off of a black countertop and letting it autofocus on its own in a decently lit room. The Nexus 6 won by like less than half a second to a second.
The next test was when I would tap the screen to set white balance and autofocus in a decently lit room. From the tap the Note II won by less than half a second.
The last test was in a dark room looking then picking it up to focus on a computer screen to test white balance setting and autofocus. The Nexus 6 won this hands down by a bit over a second. I think it simply achieves much quicker white balance but autofocus is slightly slower. I'll try to do some comparison shots tomorrow when I get home from work if you want.
Thanks for that. No need for test shots. You answered my question perfectly.
Totally off-topic from the Nexus 6: if you enjoy the extra duties in addition to your classroom, please consider administration! Keep up the good work for our kids.
If you have an S6, give us your first impressions and thoughts about the device. Tell us about the display, sound, feel, camera, quality or whatever else comes to mind. If you've had any problems, we'd like to know about that too.
Unboxing pics are encouraged
If you have an S6 Edge, please report in this thread instead:
Post your personal S6E reviews
10 days until I get my s6. Cannot wait!!
Mine comes in today, will return with review and god bless T-Mobile for being so freaking awesome and sending out pre orders early as hell!!
My write up. Think I posted it before you made this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/impression-unprofessional-review-t3068089
I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
Rooting and the possible loss of Samsung Pay!
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I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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So after you rooted the device, I assume you ticked the Knox.
Is it still possible to use the Samsung Pay feature?
Forgive me for asking, but with the slimmed down TW,
what are the perks of rooting except full backups, titanium backup, custom roms and Xposed yet doesn't work on Samsung lollipop?
If you would answer, that would be much appreciated! I bought the device but sue to the easter holidays in Denmark, I will get it late next week! I would gladly leave my impressions , but for now, if you could help me with the possible Samsung Pay root issue, that would be great!
I'll keep the S5
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
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They won't see fit. This thing will sell like hot cakes.
They found that less than one per cent actually use the battery swapping or expandable memory.
3545alg said:
In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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That's a good point. My Spigen tough armor case hides most everything except the screen. What kind of case will protect the Edge model? I'm kind of a butter fingers and I won't carry an expensive phone in my pocket without a good protective case.
I'm still thinking if I should buy a case or not. From my experience, I've never needed one, seen from how long my iPhone 4 lasted. During the time I had it I went out almost every day, most of those days to drink in a bar or at a club, and despite dropping it quite a few times, those particular drops didn't break the glass. The metal sides got dented but that was about it. It's probably because most of the places I go through have smooth floors / carpets and the only times I slapped on a case was when I went hiking or something "adventurous". My iPhone 4 finally died though when my drunk friend grabbed it from me and ran towards the stairs of the club we were at. He stretched out his hand to prevent me from taking it from me and successfully dropped it 3 floors down. Good thing it was almost 4am and the crowd was thinning out so it didn't land on anybody's head (and based on how the iPhone 4 was the first "cement block" phone, that was a huge relief).
My iPhone 4 lived that long despite all it experienced so I'm sure that the S6 Edge, with it's reviews and drop tests will come out of the same experiences more unscathed compared to my iPhone 4.
That being said, I have still been researching on cases and so far I'll either buy a Speck or Ringke case.
... I can't even begin to share how excited I am to get my S6 Edge though. I never thought a Samsung phone would ever catch my eye (which was surprising since I find their TVs / monitors sexy as hell) but I'm sure glad that changed. The last time I got this excited for a phone was when the iPhone 4 was launched.
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I don't have time for anything in depth right now, but I'll write up a quick summary.
I've had the device for 3 days now, and so far I can tell you this is hands down the best phone i have ever had the pleasure of using. I've been with HTC for almost 8 years now, starting with the Evo, then Evo 3D, then HTC One M7. I got fed up with their camera which ultimately made me switch to S6.
I got the black 32GB T-mobile model, and the phone is gorgeous. Build quality is exceptional and feels very solid in my hand. Everything is snappy and responsive. The fingerprint scanner works great, the screen is amazing, and battery life seems reasonable. It's hard to say how the batter will hold up in real world scenarios, since i can't leave the thing sitting for more than 5 minutes right now before i want to look at my new toy again. With extremely heavy use, I've been making it until about 7:00 PM before having to plug it back in.
Being an XDA fanboy, i rooted my phone the moment i got it and removed a lot of the bloatware. T-Mobile did not go overboard with bloatware, but being on custom ROMs for years makes any bloatware make my skin crawl. I was able to root it in minutes, load up Titanium, remove all the unwanted stuff, reboot...and am happy to say i am getting zero FC issues or any other issues for that matter.
The ONLY thing i can say i miss with this phone is the front facing stereo speakers from my HTC One. There's no question that those were better speakers than what the S6 has. Don't get me wrong though, the S6 speaker is sufficiently loud, it just lacks the depth of sound that my HTC One had. This is a sacrifice i will make with open arms though, given the near perfection this device has shown me so far.
In short, GET THIS PHONE! You won't regret it.
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Since you have root, could you try installing something like v4a and let us know how it works please? Does it bug out? Im big on audio (which is why I got the M7, for its awesome audio mods) and really hoping to jump back on the Samsung ship with the S6.
After using an S4 before my M7, I'm a little cautious about Samsung though. Unlike HTC or Moto (Personal experience), their devices usually dont make it the long term, both in terms of hardware and software, so Im hoping Sammy fixed all these with the S6. Will definitely miss the Boomsound speakers, but the M9 seriously disappointed me this time
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Well, Apple sells tens of millions of device agains a premium price. And it works for them, so SS would be stupid not to try to follow their footsteps.
This phone is what so many people where asking for. A good looking. premium built phone that you can show of to your friends for its looks, not its features.
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So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
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Then again, all those premium materials go wasted as everybody buys a butt ugly case to protect those premium materials.... :silly:
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It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!
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So by this reasoning, sales and profit margins do not equal a good product. You've just explained why I won't be buying an S6, or an iPhone.
I don't really think people are wanting this, they are just ignorant of smartphones. If they only knew what they could have in their hands.. Like the guy driving the Ford GT around town going 5 under the speed limit, never reaching 3,000 RPM.
It is very sad to see such nice-looking phones go to waste. I'm glad I don't use cases!
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i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.
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i'm not saying that profit margins/sales do not equal a good product perse. What I'm saying is that vendors always put sales and profit first, and the product second.
Otherwise LCD would've been DEAD years ago, but no, Plasma dies because the profit margins are lower and people want 'LED tv's because they are the best'.
If you, being a manufacturer notice that your competitor sells 5x more than you having a product that doesn't make sense or isn't the best you can get out there you start thinking how you can get sales up to that level. If you have to create a product with a few concessions then so be it.
In this case YOU care about a removable battery and SD. I've NEVER replaced my battery in 6 years. And I use an SD because I've a 16GB phone. The only reason why I would need a removable battery is after my phone freezes up yet again trying out some custom rom
The same goes for the GT driver, he might just have bought the car for its looks or status.
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Yes, I am agreeing with you about buying for looks and what manufacturers cater to. But I am posting this in a review thread on a site filled with people who use their phones as they were made to be used. I think they will see what Samsung is obviously doing and be turned off by that. Maybe not, though. Marketing and public opinion is very powerful and even the sharpest sometimes fall into those traps.
What's even better about their tactics is that they offer a larger internal memory at the utmost premium price, like Apple does. This is just a terrific business practice, as you want to make a product that is marketable and easily replaced, as well as forcing people into higher price bracket. I do not blame Samsung for trying to turn a profit, I just am disappointed with their product which is not aimed at the vertical I am in.
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In my opinion, Samsung has taken several steps backwards. No water resistance, no memory card and no replaceable battery. All three of these omissions are important to me. I'll just keep my S5 until Samsung sees fit to add these features back in a future version.
Apparently they think Apple has good ideas.
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Considering they made this drastic change due to a massive drop in sales..I'd say your opinion is wrong =)
And I know we all hate apple..but don't be silly. Of course their ideas work. You don't become the most profitable company in the world because you're making bad choices lol
Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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Apple phones are great, the OS feels like it's from the seventies but the the smoothness is something I wish Samsung could copy more. My iPhone is mostly taking up space in a box though
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Yeah, I really envy the smoothness, WP is equally smooth
V4A installed without issue. Never needed with this, I'm interested to try it out and see what it can do
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If the sales are good for the s6 this year , removable battery and SD card slots will go away for good.
First of all let me make it clear I. Love. This. Phone. No question this is the best - functionality wise - phone I have had in more than 10 years. Because it is my daily driver and the attention grabber everywhere I went (until the S6 edge came out) I am even more disappointed/disturbed by Samsung treating the phone, and those that really like, as disposable.
Because Samsung billed this as a concept phone there is virtually ZERO real development for the edge panel since it was announced last September. The bad part is that Samsung themselves could have made useful panels but instead they dropped the ball. How many months more will we see that the panel store is "coming soon"? Instead of exploiting this feature and keeping us engaged it is now an exercise in futility hitting the download button to see the same panels or virtually useless ones that are not in a language you don't understand or is of zero use.
Then there s the ROM aspect. I used to do more flashing that Barry Allen back in the day. Have you seen the number of fully functional ROMS for this phone. It is slim to none. It seems Sammy's lack of passion to push the phone has pushed chefs to other devices. This is squarely on Samsung.
Lastly, I am an accessory fiend - admittedly. Finding GOOD accessories and add-on's to this phone have be like finding the Lost Ark of the Covenant. From buying 9 different screen protectors that promise to protect the actual edge - that don't or looking for a functional case almost everything is a chore or a serious waiting game. they have sucked the fun of really getting into this device - for me at least.
If this new article is to be believed they are even going to cut down on some of the specs from the Note 5 equivalent: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ge-2-features-leaked/articleshow/47204012.cms. I will not believe it until I see it but I do not feel good about the next iteration of the phone either. When you consider that there is no removable battery in the S6 nor a micro slot either things do not look good.
If things go as the article states and I see that the marketing and exposure for the Note Edge 2 or anemic I will stick with what I have now. Again, I love this phone which makes the stagnant interaction on this board and in products tick me off more. This could have easily been avoided.
I totally agree with everything you have said. I was so excited about the Galaxy Edge announcement! A phone with two screens and great specs. I still love my phone but like you I am extremely disappointed at the lack of development for our devices. I too used to flash a new ROM every few weeks but I can't. I also can't believe Samsung took their eye of the ball and stopped giving us Edge owners (people who put faith in their 'concept' design)exclusives or even panels (which was promised).
I have made a few posts in the DEV section asking why we have so few ROMS/tweaks etc. Apparently it is to do with not having the source code..even though it has been released..so I'm not sure if this is the real reason etc
I kinda agree as well. This phone has been rather dissapointing to me. Not because of lack of potential but lack of support and development. This phone had the potential to be epic but it is now shadowed by the over hyped s6 edge. Oh well. Im guessing because the s6 edge has had a great bit of responsiveness and praise the next note edge will be better supported. I kinda am torn with the idea of a smaller screen but 5.5 is still a good size screen.
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I absolutely disagree entirely
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Let me explain. ...
It's supposed to be a useful accessory. .... not a full blown new gadget.
When u look at it in that context it is incredible.
Just the
1) nightclock
2) edge board as the app tray
3) quicksetting shortcut functions
4) a second screen when dealing with quick functions such as music player etc
Are enough to make this worthwhile as adding tangible beneficial functionality.
Anything else is a bonus and won't really add much more utility. Yes it would be nice but won't add that much.
I'd bought this after some indecision as was pretty sure it wouldn't get developer support given the limited numbers. Took the plunge because the edge was just too enticing.
Couple of months on, am quite happy overall. The phone itself, as everyone agrees, is fantastic. Plus,
1. Lots of cases now, from flip to non flip. Range covers the edge as well as leaving it open.
2. Screen protectors have been a pain, especially the lack of glass ones. The plastic ones, however, do cover the full edge, and are quite smooth. You have to wait for a week or so for all the bubbles to vanish and the surface to really smoothen out, though.
3. ROMS are in short supply, but as if now, find it is responsive enough without too many tweaks. A lot of the mods for Note 4 work quite well, which eases the pain.
4. The Samsung panel store started well and then died out. But there are quite a few very useful productivity panels coming on play store now. I particularly like the quick settings and quick contacts ones. Still some shortage of content based feeds etc, but don't think that will be resolved.
So some minuses, but overall still very good. No thanks to Samsung, of course (which is the point of the OP, I suppose) ☺
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I'd bought this after some indecision as was pretty sure it wouldn't get developer support given the limited numbers. Took the plunge because the edge was just too enticing.
Couple of months on, am quite happy overall. The phone itself, as everyone agrees, is fantastic. Plus,
1. Lots of cases now, from flip to non flip. Range covers the edge as well as leaving it open.
2. Screen protectors have been a pain, especially the lack of glass ones. The plastic ones, however, do cover the full edge, and are quite smooth. You have to wait for a week or so for all the bubbles to vanish and the surface to really smoothen out, though.
3. ROMS are in short supply, but as if now, find it is responsive enough without too many tweaks. A lot of the mods for Note 4 work quite well, which eases the pain.
4. The Samsung panel store started well and then died out. But there are quite a few very useful productivity panels coming on play store now. I particularly like the quick settings and quick contacts ones. Still some shortage of content based feeds etc, but don't think that will be resolved.
So some minuses, but overall still very good. No thanks to Samsung, of course (which is the point of the OP, I suppose) ☺
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1) I agree about the range of cases but prefer the a flip that covers the edge. ...
Imo the protection is more important than the visibility.... 99% of the time u need the edge only. ... there is no problem with leaving the flip open. Eg when using as a night clock.
2) I think screen protectors are pointless. ...especially if u have a flip case.
Any protector inevitably takes away from usability.
I agree to an extent with the op. I guess one of the things I am most disappointed about is that ever since lollipop came out for our edge phones, the main features that were HUGE turn on to the edge screen have been removed. Case in point, the camera button that was on the edge screen is now off to the side of the phone. Even what little they offered in the edge screen in kit Kat has been reduced even further with lollipop. I truly feel that as great as this phone is, I should have stayed with my note 4. The edge was seriously overhyped to bring us in and then dropped like raw egg on concrete.
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I love love this phone. When I heard that S6 was to be edged both sides I was very disappointed in what they did to that generation. No removable battery and slot for SD card , I feel like I'm look I ng at a CrApple phone. If this is the way Samsung is going, I'll keep this phone till it dies and look elsewhere.
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I agree to an extent with the op. I guess one of the things I am most disappointed about is that ever since lollipop came out for our edge phones, the main features that were HUGE turn on to the edge screen have been removed. Case in point, the camera button that was on the edge screen is now off to the side of the phone. Even what little they offered in the edge screen in kit Kat has been reduced even further with lollipop. I truly feel that as great as this phone is, I should have stayed with my note 4. The edge was seriously overhyped to bring us in and then dropped like raw egg on concrete.
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Am wondering whether to upgrade. Could you mention any other negative changes? Thanks.
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Am wondering whether to upgrade. Could you mention any other negative changes? Thanks.
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If u like playing around with ROMS etc... then don't buy it.
If u r not fussed by that sort of stuff. ... there isn't a better phone in the world.
Should have clarified. I already have the edge. Wondering whether to upgrade to Lollipop
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I kinda agree as well. This phone has been rather dissapointing to me. Not because of lack of potential but lack of support and development. This phone had the potential to be epic but it is now shadowed by the over hyped s6 edge. Oh well. Im guessing because the s6 edge has had a great bit of responsiveness and praise the next note edge will be better supported. I kinda am torn with the idea of a smaller screen but 5.5 is still a good size screen.
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I think that for the most part the disappointment comes at the hands of Samsung. sure, would I love for the battery to have been bigger and give me a solid 6 hours screen time...of course. but from form factor, wow factor, functionality standpoint this phone is awesome. I just feel that by abandoning it - at launch - they left a lot on the table.
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I agree to an extent with the op. I guess one of the things I am most disappointed about is that ever since lollipop came out for our edge phones, the main features that were HUGE turn on to the edge screen have been removed. Case in point, the camera button that was on the edge screen is now off to the side of the phone. Even what little they offered in the edge screen in kit Kat has been reduced even further with lollipop. I truly feel that as great as this phone is, I should have stayed with my note 4. The edge was seriously overhyped to bring us in and then dropped like raw egg on concrete.
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I, personally, feel I got everything I expected and more. Especially from a superficial perspective. This phone turns heads -and go a few numbers for me :good: based on people not knowing what the heck it was. I actually got 6 people to buy the phone base on my conversation with them about all its features. With lollipop coming so late/ changing accustomed to features, the panel store sucking and limited to no development I can see how "overhyped" could be applied but for me its only from the standpoint that my expectation level was higher from a Samsung support and development standpoint.
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I love love this phone. When I heard that S6 was to be edged both sides I was very disappointed in what they did to that generation. No removable battery and slot for SD card , I feel like I'm look I ng at a CrApple phone. If this is the way Samsung is going, I'll keep this phone till it dies and look elsewhere.
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Amen brother! I saw the S6 in silver and was impressed by the look of it. when I saw the emasculated features of the side panels the first thing I thought of was: they are going to do something monumentally horrible to the note edge 2. Then I read the article I posted. I have not rooted the phone because, for the most part, it is a beast out the box. But if you are going to make the screen smaller, no removable battery, no card slot and have continually crappy support and development then I will stick with what I have until something better comes along. The sad part is that I am REALLY brand loyal. If you treat me right I will get in line to hand you my money for what I believe is something worthy to be purchased. Samsung is really making me question them. Yes, the note 5 is probably going to be a beast but I really like the Note edge dangnabbit and want them to just do what's right by the people they sold the edge to.
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Should have clarified. I already have the edge. Wondering whether to upgrade to Lollipop
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I took the plunge cuz so many people who flashed it said it made the phone run faster. no such luck here and my battery drains faster. If I could un-do it I would. But everyone's experience is not the same.
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In all honesty, the phone itself is awesome! I love the note edge. The problem is samsung development. They could have blown this to the moon and beyond, but it seems like they are trying to pull backon the edge screen. Even kitkat had more to offer than lollipop. The lollipop update has removed quite a bit of the edge screen features that made it so attractive to begin with.
I'd still buy the edge, but if they keep removing edge screen features, then id rather go back the note 4
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As much as I hate to say it, this is no different from what Samsung has always done in the past. This is their business model. The sooner they can obsolete devices, the sooner they can sell more.
The amazing thing is that they get the device to the point where it works very well, with the bare minimum features and stability they can get away with, and then totally forget about the device. The Gear S on my wrist, the Note 10.1 2012 and 2014, the Note 2, all of these devices Samsung got to work, worked out the majority of bugs, and left them without looking back.
This is what they do. Sadly, you buy a Galaxy device for what it is now, not what it can become in the future. They are locking them down tighter so developers can't do anything anymore, and carriers are loving every moment of it.
I watched videos of Samsung's developer conference and it was sparse. No one wants to mess with their devices anymore, and sadly, people messing with their devices is what got them to where they are now. That is what's changed. Just like jailbreaking iPhones was huge early on but fizzled out after Apple started to sell more devices based on the eye catching features outweighing the desire for customizability, rooting and building custom roms is fizzling out as Samsung sells crocksh*ts of Galaxy devices that have three or four excellent features that keep people buying them blindly without caring about customization.
Blogs are ignoring these issues brought up by OP because they are being paid or coerced or conned by Samsung into glorifying everything about the S6, while actively ignoring the Note. "If we give you this tester device, you aren't allowed to talk negatively about any of our other devices, and are limited to saying X, Y or Z about those other devices."
Samsung knows that the Note is the BEST phablet, or really, it is the BEST Android phone out there. Hands down. I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm saying it because based upon the balance between features and price, it is number one.
I have a Nexus 6. It isn't all that it is cracked up to be, and I wonder whether that's because Google is slacking off. In any case, I bought the Nexus a few days ago, and I'm already done with it. It is clearly a baseline phone. Current roms have nothing but kernel mods, everyone is trying to make it more "buttery smooth," and Xposed has been trampled by Samsung's big boot.
So what's really going on? Is Samsung thinking they don't have to try so hard because no matter what any other manufacturers do, they won't be able to match Samsung's eye catching features? Look at LG's attempts. They are good, but not ground breaking.
In any case, Google and manufacturers are taking back our customizability from us, and forcing us into the iPhone model, while throwing out a bone here and there and acting like Android is still the customizable and open ecosystem it has always been.
There it is.
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As much as I hate to say it, this is no different from what Samsung has always done in the past. This is their business model. The sooner they can obsolete devices, the sooner they can sell more.
The amazing thing is that they get the device to the point where it works very well, with the bare minimum features and stability they can get away with, and then totally forget about the device. The Gear S on my wrist, the Note 10.1 2012 and 2014, the Note 2, all of these devices Samsung got to work, worked out the majority of bugs, and left them without looking back.
This is what they do. Sadly, you buy a Galaxy device for what it is now, not what it can become in the future. They are locking them down tighter so developers can't do anything anymore, and carriers are loving every moment of it.
I watched videos of Samsung's developer conference and it was sparse. No one wants to mess with their devices anymore, and sadly, people messing with their devices is what got them to where they are now. That is what's changed. Just like jailbreaking iPhones was huge early on but fizzled out after Apple started to sell more devices based on the eye catching features outweighing the desire for customizability, rooting and building custom roms is fizzling out as Samsung sells crocksh*ts of Galaxy devices that have three or four excellent features that keep people buying them blindly without caring about customization.
Blogs are ignoring these issues brought up by OP because they are being paid or coerced or conned by Samsung into glorifying everything about the S6, while actively ignoring the Note. "If we give you this tester device, you aren't allowed to talk negatively about any of our other devices, and are limited to saying X, Y or Z about those other devices."
Samsung knows that the Note is the BEST phablet, or really, it is the BEST Android phone out there. Hands down. I'm not saying that because I like it, I'm saying it because based upon the balance between features and price, it is number one.
I have a Nexus 6. It isn't all that it is cracked up to be, and I wonder whether that's because Google is slacking off. In any case, I bought the Nexus a few days ago, and I'm already done with it. It is clearly a baseline phone. Current roms have nothing but kernel mods, everyone is trying to make it more "buttery smooth," and Xposed has been trampled by Samsung's big boot.
So what's really going on? Is Samsung thinking they don't have to try so hard because no matter what any other manufacturers do, they won't be able to match Samsung's eye catching features? Look at LG's attempts. They are good, but not ground breaking.
In any case, Google and manufacturers are taking back our customizability from us, and forcing us into the iPhone model, while throwing out a bone here and there and acting like Android is still the customizable and open ecosystem it has always been.
There it is.
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Dude, the market moves a an absolutely blistering pace.. Before one device is even completed the tech inside of it is basically obsolete think of it from an research and development standpoint. They have to develop the best device they can, which I feel they do a damn good job at, so during the time of development they have to already be looking ahead to the next iteration of the same device. It's a giant cycle of constant improvement that takes time to design, to then develop, to implement it , and then market the **** out of it and in background the new device is already begun it's design and development process .. Samsung more so that not, delivers a top of the line device consistantly.. we here on xda tend to be more knowledgeable and more used to the tech than the average consumer whom maybe coming from some crap device to even a note 3 which would blow their mind not to mention the note 4 or edge. Come on Samsung is constantly smashing the competing oems in tech and design. Htc doesn't count because their internals are absolutely horrible, I don't care what it looks like because I know it's a pile of garbage. LG just looks at Samsung and then kangs the f out of them. Their ui is so twiz like it's not even funny. Except it runs like crap. Nice cams that's it. Samsung does a damn fine job in my opinion. Better than any other oem by miles. They aren't perfect, but they are still the best.
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Dude, the market moves a an absolutely blistering pace.. Before one device is even completed the tech inside of it is basically obsolete think of it from an research and development standpoint. They have to develop the best device they can, which I feel they do a damn good job at, so during the time of development they have to already be looking ahead to the next iteration of the same device. It's a giant cycle of constant improvement that takes time to design, to then develop, to implement it , and then market the **** out of it and in background the new device is already begun it's design and development process .. Samsung more so that not, delivers a top of the line device consistantly.. we here on xda tend to be more knowledgeable and more used to the tech than the average consumer whom maybe coming from some crap device to even a note 3 which would blow their mind not to mention the note 4 or edge. Come on Samsung is constantly smashing the competing oems in tech and design. Htc doesn't count because their internals are absolutely horrible, I don't care what it looks like because I know it's a pile of garbage. LG just looks at Samsung and then kangs the f out of them. Their ui is so twiz like it's not even funny. Except it runs like crap. Nice cams that's it. Samsung does a damn fine job in my opinion. Better than any other oem by miles. They aren't perfect, but they are still the best.
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No one argues, it is the best of the tippity top phones on the market.. the argument is in the developement and lack of support. Its like buying a laptop in order to have adobe photoshop where ever you are, and then finding out that they will no longer offer adobe photoshop to that one model. And then you find out that the next model of the same laptop is getting adobe photoshop, office suite pro, 283tb of unlimited cloud storage, and a date with sofia vergara with a garanteed handjob.... tell me you wouldnt be just a lil upset.. lol
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Should have clarified. I already have the edge. Wondering whether to upgrade to Lollipop
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I've recently upgraded to lollipop and at first I hated it - made my phone run slow, hot, and the battery drained super fast. As much as I hated doing it, I did the dreaded factory reset and restore, painstakingly loading back on the hundreds of apps and settings. But so far it's been worth it and the phone feels snappier than before. I can't really comment on battery life yet but hopefully that will be better too.
As for negatives I don't like that you can't deactivate the lollipop style notifications as now when browsing YouTube the notifications cover the screen.
Regarding the camera, I actually prefer to have the shutter button on screen, as it's easier to hit and the position of my fingers mean that I know longer get a finger in the shot!
I really wish I saw this thread yesterday!!! I just came home with the Sprint variant and found this two minutes after I updated to Lollipop and rooted.. Are you serious? Did I just drop $800 on "THE BEST DEVICE SINCE SILICON WAS DISCOVERED!!" that is basically a Betamax player already?!? (showing my age with that reference..) If I read y'all correctly, I'm stuck with TouchWiz, I can't discover that perfect "unknown" little custom ROM to flash, and I basically ruined the eponymous Edge by upgrading from 4.4.4? Really? K.. deep breath...
Lollipop has killed the Edge. It was a great phone out of the box with Kit Kat. Although AT&T shoved the update down our throats, the community has come through with a downgrade. Development has been slow but im sure and hope itll come around. Its my daily driver and I am more content with smaller mods and full functionality over full blown customization.
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Note5, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Note5 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I used nexus 6 before, everything was normal until the day I dropped my nexus 6 in the water and they couldn't fix my phone so I move to another new phone SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 5, really before I never liked Samsung cause it is made from plastic, but when the note 5 was launched I like it a lot and I want to buy it and I did, I love it, I love the screen, the camera and the finger print LOL.
Having used note 1,2,4, this is the best note ive ever Used. Its freaking fast and gorgeous. Screen，battery，pen，build quality and on and on.
Thanks for inviting me @svetius
So my first impressions of the phone was "WOW!!!" This was my first Note series phone and Samsung device since I had a Galaxy S4 for a short amount of time. I've always wanted a Note phone since the Note 2 but never made the jump to it because I figured it was just a fad or it had to be for someone that needed it's uses, such as the S-Pen, for their job maybe. I stuck with my Galaxy S2 which I used to ROM the hell out of! I never got board of it due to me changing ROMs every 5 seconds.
I really do love this phone! I purchased a case for it,https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VN6NIQI/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1, and I am ALWAYS tempted to remove it just cause how the phone looks and feels without it. I purchases a new case,https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010R8CFG6/ref=ya_st_dp_summary, which arrives later today because I just want to feel like I'm holding the phone itself. It's not cause I feel like the phone is too big or anything like that, I actually like the bulk my current case adds. It's kind of a love-hate thing. Love the case, but want something where it feels like I do think have a case. I might even consider just opting to go for a skin from either Dbrand or SlickWraps.
Am I sad that there isn't an SD card slot, a little, but that's why I opted for the 64GB version. I feel it more than enough space for me. Removable battery? Not sad at all. I didn't care for them as much as some others do. Now about the S-Pen, I found that I actually do use it, much more than I thought I would. I use it to play drawing games, organize my files, and take screenshots and draw on them. I'm a visual person so sometimes it's easier for me to explain something by drawing it out. I've read that others don't actually even touch the S-Pen. I thought I was going to be one of those guys.
This phone is just awesome! Is it perfect? No, but no phone will ever be perfect. This just comes close to it.
Love this phone and I'm not even sure if I'll go back to a smaller phone ever. Might stick with the Note series or other phablets.
Thanks for reading. I almost turned it into a big review, had other things to say, but I gotta keep it short.
leo9891 said:
Thanks for inviting me @svetius
So my first impressions of the phone was "WOW!!!" This was my first Note series phone and Samsung device since I had a Galaxy S4 for a short amount of time. I've always wanted a Note phone since the Note 2 but never made the jump to it because I figured it was just a fad or it had to be for someone that needed it's uses, such as the S-Pen, for their job maybe. I stuck with my Galaxy S2 which I used to ROM the hell out of! I never got board of it due to me changing ROMs every 5 seconds.
I really do love this phone! I purchased a case for it,https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VN6NIQI/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1, and I am ALWAYS tempted to remove it just cause how the phone looks and feels without it. I purchases a new case,https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010R8CFG6/ref=ya_st_dp_summary, which arrives later today because I just want to feel like I'm holding the phone itself. It's not cause I feel like the phone is too big or anything like that, I actually like the bulk my current case adds. It's kind of a love-hate thing. Love the case, but want something where it feels like I do think have a case. I might even consider just opting to go for a skin from either Dbrand or SlickWraps.
Am I sad that there isn't an SD card slot, a little, but that's why I opted for the 64GB version. I feel it more than enough space for me. Removable battery? Not sad at all. I didn't care for them as much as some others do. Now about the S-Pen, I found that I actually do use it, much more than I thought I would. I use it to play drawing games, organize my files, and take screenshots and draw on them. I'm a visual person so sometimes it's easier for me to explain something by drawing it out. I've read that others don't actually even touch the S-Pen. I thought I was going to be one of those guys.
This phone is just awesome! Is it perfect? No, but no phone will ever be perfect. This just comes close to it.
Love this phone and I'm not even sure if I'll go back to a smaller phone ever. Might stick with the Note series or other phablets.
Thanks for reading. I almost turned it into a big review, had other things to say, but I gotta keep it short.
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That first Verus case you posted a link to is that plastic or metal? Hoping it's plastic
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That first Verus case you posted a link to is that plastic or metal? Hoping it's plastic
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It's plastic. The case looks good with the White Note 5, which is the one I have. If you have the Blue Sapphire one, I would definitely go for the Black TPU over the transparent one.
I am pretty pleased with the Verus case, it reminds me of the Spigen Neo Hybrid, but I opted for this one cause it was slightly cheaper and it came in clear with a bumper that looks very similar to the metal banding on the Note 5. It's pretty thin, but not as thin as the case in that second link I posted.
No micro SD, no removable battery, fingerprint grease ball, multi-tasking like its 2009... 1 step forward, 4 steps back.
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No micro SD, no removable battery, fingerprint grease ball, multi-tasking like its 2009... 1 step forward, 4 steps back.
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Yep, and add to that no IR blaster and no MHL support. Mine arrived yesterday and it is going back. Literally at least 4 steps backward.
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Yep, and add to that no IR blaster and no MHL support. Mine arrived yesterday and it is going back. Literally at least 4 steps backward.
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I can't count how many times I used the IR Blaster and MHL.
IR Blaster was great to change channels at the bar. MHL was replaced by chromecast and smart TVs (all have miracast now)...
The phone is amazingly fast due to lack of micro sd. This would not be a problem if it had a 128Version.. I bought a microsd pendrive... at least photos and movies I'll keep with my keys and is easier to show on TV and share with friends PCs.
but battery.. that's my worst complain.. one day of medium usage... I'm getting a power case...
could be a great evolution, but it's a revolution not all for best... but its fast.. yes it is
I went from a Note 4 (SD) to an S6 and then to a Note4 (Exynos) ultimately to end my quest with the Note 5 (white N9208 duosim).
Always in search for the best combination in terms of looks, speed, screen quality, cam quality, features....I really think I have found my match (well...so far at least). The S6 was too small and the Note 4 just a bit too slow (in comparison with the S6).
Looks : the Note 5 is just the most beautiful phone I have ever seen...period. :good:
Screen quality : simply incredible! Remember I already has the S6 and Note 4...but the Note 5 even tops those.
Speed : it possitively flies! The additional 1GB RAM helps with multitasking (TW still isn't perfect though).
Cam quality : we already know how good the camera of the S6 is...this is just more of the same...in all departments it shines!
Features : it's a Note...enough said! :laugh:
Do I shed a tear for the non-removable battery and non-expandable storage space? Nah...not really. The IR blaster would have been nice to have, but also no biggie imo.
Just an awesome beast of a phone!!!
I have used the whole note series from 1 to edge and now the note 5, its just amazing. Great looks awesome design,speed, performance.
Just love it
I was dead against Samsung phones before this one. I have a close friend here at work that let me use his for a couple days when my last phone (OPO) was out of commission from a bad flash. He let me restore it and make it mine for the entire 3 days I had it. Once I put the google now launcher on it and removed all the bloat it was an amazing phone. I went out the last night I had his and got my own. I love it, truly the best Android device to date.
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I was dead against Samsung phones before this one. I have a close friend here at work that let me use his for a couple days when my last phone (OPO) was out of commission from a bad flash. He let me restore it and make it mine for the entire 3 days I had it. Once I put the google now launcher on it and removed all the bloat it was an amazing phone. I went out the last night I had his and got my own. I love it, truly the best Android device to date.
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I wish i have your friend.... so i can enjoy note 5 for 3 days... i cant buy one at this moment cause its to expensive. maybe ill wait 6 months and check if i can afford by then.
I've switched from jb'd iPhone 5S to the Note 5, and I'm completely happy. I've had prior rooted devices, and slow Android devices as well, so I know about memory management (which the Note handles just fine with what I do) so I have nothing to complain about yet. Well except for when my iPhone friends send me videos they come in compressed/crappy looking. Not sure why...
Awesome Phone! had the Oppo FIND 7 before and this one beats it by far! in every aspect.
Even after having it for a week now I still love it. I have found a couple things that bother me, though I am learning to live with them. The one that stands out most is the duplicate apps Samsung uses and wont allow you to disable. Calendar stands out most. Google's version is FAR better in every way. Samsung version looks like the one from early Android. If you try to turn it off it will turn ALL calendar apps off. If your force disable it, it messes with calendar event syncing. For now I just ignore it. Does anyone have advice on this?
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Even after having it for a week now I still love it. I have found a couple things that bother me, though I am learning to live with them. The one that stands out most is the duplicate apps Samsung uses and wont allow you to disable. Calendar stands out most. Google's version is FAR better in every way. Samsung version looks like the one from early Android. If you try to turn it off it will turn ALL calendar apps off. If your force disable it, it messes with calendar event syncing. For now I just ignore it. Does anyone have advice on this?
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For debloating your Note 5 check this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
You can practially disable everything with the package disabler app. It's great!
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For debloating your Note 5 check this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/guide-bloating-touchwizzing-note-5-t3184563
You can practially disable everything with the package disabler app. It's great!
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Using it, only did it to a few of the service though. It makes me nervous with some of the stuff that basic xml file has listed. I dont want to lose some of the functionality or risk stability. I did move to this because of being tired of the constant flashing and updating my past phones, lol.
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Using it, only did it to a few of the service though. It makes me nervous with some of the stuff that basic xml file has listed. I dont want to lose some of the functionality or risk stability. I did move to this because of being tired of the constant flashing and updating my past phones, lol.
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I use the Basic list and even added some of my own to block. So far everything is still working great and I have had no problems whatsever. So you may try the Basic list if you like. I think it's a rather save list to start of with.
I'm still awaiting a safe root option for my N9208 because I would like to use adblock, titanium backup and have the option to edit build.prop (for better multitasking).
Looking forward to custom roms, but somehow I have a feeling there won't be many available (esp. for my duosim version).
Came from iPhone, s3, Note 2, Note 3, LG G4 and now the Note 5. IMO, it has the best screen, best camera of any phone regardless of platform. Super snappy. In the few months I've owned the phone had only one app force close itself. With my Note 3 after 18 months it was frustrating to use. I couldn't go a day without the phone freezing up, app force closing etc.
I'm optimistic my GNote5 will last me a year and stay fast until my next upgrade.
Very very satisfied.