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I'm really disappointed by the battery life of my a500. It lasts no more than 2 days with Wifi disabled when display is off. I use it only 1 hour a day ...
This tablet is just 6 month old ... do you have the same problems ?
Do you think it could be returned under warranty ?
If I don't use mine much and I have WLAN off it lasts for about 2 weeks. So no, I do not have that issue.
Have you installed a custom ROM?
Have you checked what applications you have running in the background?
If you're running stock ROM, is it still 3.0.1 or have you updated?
That's not good
I get at least 6 hours continuous use from mine,I'd certainly take it back if you rule out something causing unusual battery drain.
I had similar problem with my a100. No matter how I had my sync settings set or what apps I removed it was still getting horrible battery life. Did a factory reset and battery life went back to how it should have been.
On my a500 however, battery has been great. I usually get 2 and a half days without turning off wifi or changing a thing, and with moderate usage. You may want to check sync settings for all of your apps.
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It isn't rooted and with the last version of stock rom 3.2. I'll make a factory reset tonight and check it the battery lasts longer.
I wonder if the battery is covered by the warranty ...
Man, my iPad lasts for 2 weeks. Normal usage
Seriously, like was advised earlier.
Things that drain the battery'
Live Wallpaper
Display settings
Stupid apps like battery savers, task monitors/killers
GPS
WIFi, especially if it is constantly searching for a connection
Sync's (mail, fb, twitter, just about any social app. Google sync) all of these should be off, or set to a more reasonable time.
Apps that update automatically. Should be set to off in the app settings.
Video and games
Just because the tab is asleep, doesn't mean it stops checking these things when to time requires. Especially if you have an a501 with internal 3g.
Well, I'm also new to Android, but I got some experience. You should use an app call BetterBatteryStat (thread available here, just google that name and "xda developers").
I bet that your wifi is not off when screen off. That setting is useless. On stock 3.2.1, it works. But on both Honeylicious and Thor's ROM, wifi just stay on. Sometime, the tablet stay awake while screen off also.
I suggest using BetterBatteryStat to view detail log of your screen on time and wifi on time vs sleep time. That app also give you some idea about which app is preventing your tablet from sleeping.
Also try TitaniumBackup PRO to freeze some of the included app (like Photo Browser 3D, if you don't use it). I don't accept any app which I rarely use to have a running service (check in setting\application).
So far I have 2 days 11 hours off the charger and am at 65% remaining. This isn't just with no use... Ive used it quite a bit to web browse and check pulse / xda along with not turning wifi off, gps on(shouldnt use much battery anyway) and syncing apps set to 4-6 hours. It's not rooted and has a ton of apps loaded on it, though I try not to have any apps that look like they were made too quickly.
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You were right ! A software was using the battery. After the factory reset, the battery lasts much longer. Since sunday i'm still at 77%.
AsM0DeUz said:
You were right ! A software was using the battery. After the factory reset, the battery lasts much longer. Since sunday i'm still at 77%.
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Aye, that's what I thought. Be more careful what you install and get one or another task manager application so you can check for such more easily.
If i can Root my 9005 - i intend to use Greenify,, as my battery is very poor (stock i'm lucky if i get 8-9 hours light/moderate use)
Is it a rated app,, can i expect big battery gains?
Thanks.
Depends which apps you have installed and how you use them. For example facebook drains much battery so you coukd greenify the app but if you do so you wont recive notifications anymore from it aslong you arent actively using the app.
In other words it prevents apps from wacking up.
As someone who already always manually force-closed all running apps, all I noticed was an increase in free time, as greenify is faster at it.
I didnt notice any increase in battery life.
If you don't manually force-close your apps, it'll probably have a bigger impact.
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You will have some slight increases of battery of you force close the apps wich cause many wake locks like what's app
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JCM800 said:
If i can Root my 9005 - i intend to use Greenify,, as my battery is very poor (stock i'm lucky if i get 8-9 hours light/moderate use)
Is it a rated app,, can i expect big battery gains?
Thanks.
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It seems to help mine. I run it with the Xposed Module that adds features that still preserve the notifications from Facebook, etc. I also have it set to boost mode for it to work faster.
I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I do all that myself manually.... Sync always off and I turn Wifi or mobile data on when I need it, and turn it off when I'm done.
Cheaper than buying an app, too.
The real saver for me has been LUX. With our climate and the time I spend indoors, a brightness between -20% and 4% is more than sufficient. Now THAT saves battery! With brightness at 4, I loose 1% per 15 minutes whilst browsing! With it at 50, 1% per 5 minutes. At 100%, 1% per 90 seconds.
And when i use it in the dark, - 70%. I barely lose any charge at all whilst being an insomniac. It's been 20 minutes, still on 55% charge, which it also was 20 minutes ago. WiFi on, eWeatherHD update on, Tapatalk, Facebook and Firefox in use.
(if websites used less of that eyesore white, it'd save even more.)
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I would suggest to remove some bloatware comes with the ROM / firmware itself.
It safes much battery though.
As well as turn on location, and on it when you want to use it.
And I freeze some apps which is running in background (which greenify can't detect it), which I don't use it as well.
and change to a good kernel.
it will really have a good deep sleep, never up if I never wake it up.
the apps running in background is only messenger apps like whatsapp, viber, and that kind of stuff. I never freeze this one and never put it on greenify as well.
So far so good.
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I also haven't noticed much of an improvement. Many people swear it's a miracle app, for me it only turns off notifications.
True battery saver: green power payed version (on Google play). Set the phone to sync once at 4h and turn off wifi and mobile data on screen off. Awesome app, I tell you.
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I might look into that app. I go with the "free" lol DIY manual turn data/wifi off thing too, but sometimes I forget and I see wifi on when I had turned it off or so I thought. some apps are worth the couple dollars or so and I might very well get this one. Thanks for the tip on it. I like too that it automatically turns on wifi or data such as when you go to read an email or something.
You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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Juice defender is a dead project and 2 years old. Greenpower is basically the same app but still supported.
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You can also give these a try:
- Deep Sleep Battery Saver
- Juice Defender
- Tasker (You can configure it to auomate nearly anything, from 'turn on wifi at this and this gps location' to 'shut up completely between 2200 and 0800'. Does a lot of non-battery related things too, like launch a specific app when plugging in headset, or automatically move photo's from internal to SD.)
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Hey thanks! I did go ahead with Green Power yesterday and I have to say I notice enough of a difference for sure. My usage has been with a phone call, check messages, several texts, check email a few times and some light surfing. i'm at 89% at 8 hours pulled off 100% charge and would have been lower for sure into 70s at best. definitely notice.
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LG G3 Screen on Time Discussion
Greetings all.
Firstly, this is not a thread to discuss resolution changing! There are several of those already and it has been established that it does not have a viable effect on battery life!
I started this thread as I thought we could use a useful thread which we will discuss SOLEY (SOT) screen on time. After sifting through the rather disorganised battery life discussions I was left with mixed ideas of what a general screen on time for the LG G3 was. There are of course several of these battery threads, but as they all talk about all aspects of battery life, standby included, I thought it would be nice to get some ideas of SOT congregating in one thread.
Format
First of all there needs to be a format in which we standardise our discussion. If you are going to post complaining about SOT or saying how great your SOT is please format your post like so. I propose the following.
Model:
Rom and Version/Kernel:
Modem/Baseband:
Carrier/Country:
GPS:
WIFI:
Data (4g/3g/2g/none):
Explanation of use/modifications:
Screenshots (3% or below):
Would you please state in the explanation, your use of battery saving apps such as Greenify, Amplify, Automatic Data toggles, Tasker, Xposed and so on. Note any messaging/email clients installed as these will have an obvious effect on SOT. What are your syncing settings? For the screen shots post any that seem interesting but a 3% or below is preferred. Mention something about your use, if it was gaming, web browsing, listening to music, or with a long period of standby time. Also please state an aproximation of your brightness settings plus any debloating that you have done, and anything else you think is of relevance!
This is the proposed format for posting. We should be able to get a fantastic database of SOT for the LG G3.
I do realise that everyone's usage differs greatly and it will vary according to brightness, location and many different factors such as how long the phone has been in standby etcetera.. But don't let that stop you posting. I will start.
My Screen on TimeModel: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: Cloudy 2.5 and kernel
Modem/Baseband: 20P
Carrier/Country: Telecom Italia
GPS: No
WIFI: No
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G on constantly
Explanation of use/modifications: Fast dormancy disabled. All the bloatware frozen with titanium back up. Whats app was the only IM installed plus skype. Screen brightness was roughly below 60% almost the whole time on auto. No gaming. Music listening for 20min, reading xda for the majority of the time, plus a bit of downtime for dinner. No greenify, amplify or data toggles. Purely let it run how it goes. Although I did have the sharpening set to disabled. My signal was around 2 bars for most of the time and my sync for everything was disabled, contacts, all google sync stuff. I had also disabled back ground data for the Google Play Store, which results in a pop up error, but this can be fixed by exiting and resarting the Play Store.
Screenshots (3% or below):
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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Now thats inpressive. Do you live next to a cell phone tower? Or have an extended battery or what! Thats some impressive screen on time. Do you think you could get more?
This phone has such variation with SOT. More than my old S4, that had maybe 1 hour difference between users at most. But 7 hours SOT!?! What apps do you have installed/not installed. I'm going to flash your setup! That's utterly incredible!
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My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
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My cell signal is normally 2-3 bars so not especially strong. Just the stock original battery, around 6 months old at this point.
I have installed nova launcher, basic Google apps, poweramp, chrome, just typical everyday stuff. Removed everything LG except quickremote and quick note.
Could probably push over 8 hours if I underclocked more and messed about with custom kernels but I want to maintain the performance and stability I have.
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That is still phenomenal. I cannot comprehend having 7+ hours of SOT. It really is the only real gauge of battery life. At least for me. Idle battery drain is easily fixed by controlling wakelocks, but SOT is the main thing that I look for in a smart phone.
Before I bought this phone, which was about a week ago, I was impressed by 5 hours SOT, but knowing that this phone can have upwards of 7 hours makes me want to look into this issue more. It doesnt make sense to me. Do you have a BBS log from these screen on times?
Was your update OTA? I assume so. I currently don't have any wifi so I'm going to search for a hotspot, download the firmware from the XDA thread, flash it and see how I go. I am in Italy so it could be interesting.
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I don't know how you guys can get 5 hours SOT.I barely get 4 hours sot and that too only on wifi.
Location is turned off,gestures off.Bright ess always on 35%.
I use whatsapp,fb,tapatalk and youtube.Little bit of gaming.
I have a used d855 and it was from an australian carrier "Optus" but i have flashed v20u kdz,rooted and using gabriel kernel.
I don't know if it's battery have got weaker.It's one terminal has gone somewhat black but other three are fine.
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The gaming really kills it. The GPU has a time with the screen. At least thats what I have found. I did about 20 min of that Shark Game to test out the phone and got 5 hours + SOT by 2% remaining. Facebook wont be helping. Whatsapp doesn't seem to be a problem for me on the drain side. It drains a bit, but not alot. Also does Optus support Fast Dormancy? If not its probably best to disable it.
Remeber to post in the above format so we can start to piece together the perfect combinations!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: EE UK
GPS: Device only
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
Pure stock, debloated as much as I could. Max CPU frequency reduced to 2295, CTT mod installed and sharpening disabled. Brightness at 50%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen off and an hour of voice calls. No greenify or any kind of "battery saving" apps.
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Mother of god..
asingha94 said:
Mother of god..
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That's what I thought..
Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Post in the format from my first post and we can compare and see how we can help!
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Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
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Wow guys, your phones are like beasts. I've never ever have gotten 4hr+ SOT on my G3. Nowadays I usually get 2,5 hrs with 40+ hrs of total battery time. I have no idea how you're doing it. I've tried to find the culprit, but everything seems normal. Atleast that's what apps tell me. Can you please help me find the issue? Give me tips?
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Zunex95 said:
Model: D855
Rom and Version/Kernel: 20U
Modem/Baseband: 20U
Carrier/Country: Telenor HU
GPS: Off
WIFI: Always on
Data (4g/3g/2g/none): 3G when out of the house
CloudyG3 v2.5, fast dormancy disabled. Max CPU frequency left as is, No CTT mod sharpening disabled. Brightness at 30%/auto. No games, mostly browsing in chrome, music with screen of as well as watching Youtube. I'm also using facebook messenger, google hangouts and skype sometimes. No battery saving apps.
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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And you say you are getting around 4 hours SOT? So you are running Cloudy like me, I'm not entirely sure yet, but it seems to me that it could infact be worse than some versions of stock, for screen on time. I'm currently out of Wifi so I have not yet had the chance to flash the 20U stock. I want to try it with my exact set up and see how I go.
That is strange, 4 hours SOT. It's not alot. I have auto sync disabled, along with every google syncing aplication under accounts disabled so nothing syncs. I also disabled back ground data for the Google Play store, which causes an abort dialog sometimes, but it is easily fixed by exiting the app, swiping it from recents and starting it again.
I also have my 3G set to only 3G whichvis annoyingly changed to auto on a reboot. But this certainly helps. As for modems how is your cell signal battery consumption under stock battery info? Whats your period of no signal? Of course, all those messaging apps probably ruin your SOT as most of them are polling all the time, at least try congregating all your messaging into one app, and make sure that app isn't messenger.
Also are you sure your carrier doesn't support FD? Are you getting massive phone wakelocks when FD is enabled?
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4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
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4 hours of SOT would be awesome for me. As I said it's only 2,5 hours nowadays. I got Gmail syncing all the time as it's essential for my work. There isn't any time without signal but the phone idle and cell standby is right under the screen in consumption with 10-15% each. My phone sleeps well, almost no battery usage while the screen is off. But as soon as I turn on the screen it goes crazy and consumes battery like mad. Messenger must be a huge battery drain but I used to have the 4 hrs of SOT even 5 on lighter days with messenger. I don't think my carrier support FD. It's a small country without any really advanced tech.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Well it seems to me that your problem would be your modem/baseband/radio. If cell standby is up there with screen, I would assume that your phone doesn't have great reception. I say this because, supposing you have your screen off for a long period yet the radio isn't communicating that much data, but then once you turn the screen on, I'm going to assume that you are using the internet for browsing or responding to emails, messages ect? I would think that this would mean the phone must send alot more data with a bad signal, which could suggest why your standby times are fine and you SOT times aren't so good. 3G is definetly the way to go for SOT, you have no chance on 4G. Try enabling FD and seeing if phone starts having wakelocks in Better Battery Stats.
I also advise that you swap out Gmail for something a bit less ruthlessly active on the syncing side of things. I use stock, some people like others like cloudmagic, but there are a billion so try them out. Something that you can at least customise more to be push or pull and not syncing every 5 min. You can probably also disable all of the google account syncing tasks. Download greenify, and it has a setting there that allows you to see all the hidden Google services syncing tasks under accounts. I find that is one of the best things about Greenify. I don't use it for freezing apps, but that setting helps stop your phone syncing every second. For example who cares about chrome bookmarks syncing? Not me.
Edit: Sorry I just read that again. 2.5 hours S0T. That is utterly horrendous. Attach a BBS log.
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Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
Zunex95 said:
Sorry for the delay answer and thanks for you help so far. I've tried out your Greenify tips and install a more recent version of the kernel i'm running now as it was having battery drain issues. Also I noticed someting weird in BBS. Please see my attachment.
"No or unknown signal" 100%. Is it normal? Can it be the issue?
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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Nah, I don't think so. Unless you actually have no reception? I get that too sometimes. I'm not sure if it is a bug or what it is, but if you had signal the whole time then you can probably ignore it. I had that too and wondered what it was. Never found out.
Also make sure you have your data set to 3G not auto and manually select your provider under cellphone networks. Because I have a feeling if you say you want to stay on the same one, you wont have it trying to switch when the signal gets low from that provider, it will just go to no signal. I'm not sure about your carrier, but some carriers have a switch over agreement with other carriers, which would make your signal reception reporting not entirely accurate. If you select one provider. It will always be that one provider
Here you go I will attach one of my BBS logs from when I got more than 5 hours SOT.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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No, here in Hungary there is no agreement. It will only stay on my provider. Our 4G and 2G coverage is great but the 3G one is not so. I need to have 2g on too. Usually I got 2 or 3 bars at home. While in the city it really depends. Sometimes barely any signal, then all of a sudden max bars. Maybe my battery is faulty?
Edit: Also you got No or Unknown Signal (): 11 m 21 s 2.1% while I got 100%. I need to figure this one out.
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Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
Orcam said:
Yes I noticed that too. Interesting. I suppose that you could try a new modem? Perhaps that would help your 3g signal?
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I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
Zunex95 said:
I changed modem, now I'm waiting for results. So far better. Also I noticed one more thing. My battery charges itself overnight. I went to sleep with 50% remaining when I woke up it went up to 52%. This happens very often. Also, when I'm using it under 30% it discharges even faster. Is it the battery or it's just miscalibrated? I've tried calibrating it by draining it almost to 0 then turned it off and offline charged it until it was full. Never worked. Anymore tricks?
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Yeah, I noticed the exact same phenomenon actually, draining speeding up from 30%. I made a thread about it but no one took any interest. I read somewhere that perhaps LG does it to create a false sense of better battery. I would like to find the problem here though, because it is a rather annoying problem. Having inaccurate battery readings under 30% is the last thing you want. Perhaps they made it like that to make the battery saver feature seem like it is doing more than it really is?
As for charging over night I had that too on some other devices. I think it is a common bug across android or general lion batteries, because it's not uncommon to hear about. I'm sure there is a lot of discussion out there about it. Still, two percent is rather nice to gain over night without charging!
One more question, are you using the stock charger?
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
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Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery
ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
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Give GSam Battery Monitor from Playstore a go. It can give you an overview of whats using your juice.
Alternatively you can use Better BatteryStats: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
If you are rooted just install the XDAedition from post #2
If not rooted then follow instructions in post #4
Definitely some rogue app running in the background...
As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue
RossTeagan said:
As mentioned above, use an app to monitor your battery. But I would also suggest installing an app to monitor your data usage, because sometimes your connections and data transfers are the culprits in battery drain.
Let us know what is the cause of this issue
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Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours. But I wonder why my galaxy s8 is having this problem, the sim card I'm using on my galaxy s8 is the one that I've been using on my galaxy s7 for the past several months and I didn't experienced the same problem on my galaxy s8
Is your network signal weak?
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Ok, so I've been observing my battery for over 2 days now, and it seems that the problem is my cellular connection. I took the sim card out and noticed that the battery hasn't drained for several hours.
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This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it
can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
ajemnace said:
I have SM-G950U and the battery is draining faster than it should, I got 68% charge but after 2 hours on standy and it's on power saving mode, I got 10% drain without doing anything. Does anybody knows what's happening?
10/19
-----UPDATE-----
Before I went to bed last night, I flashed the XAA firmware and installed the gsam battery monitor, right now, I'm monitoring the battery performance and how long it takes to fully drain the battery
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You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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Do you know if the device would still be searching for LTE constantly if Wifi is connected? I'm just curious, I live in an apartment that has almost 0 data, and phones tend to pick and choose whether they want to be on 3G or LTE here. Definitely would be a drain, but I don't know if it matters if I'm on my wifi network..
baste07 said:
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No, I do have a very strong signal in my area. I'm getting an average download speed at 50mpbs and download speeds at 10mbps
xRuisuCepi said:
You can try hibernating apps that you rarely use. Also, phones tend to seek LTE; if it happens to be that you are in an area with bad carrier coverage, turn off your LTE.
On the other hand, try to uninstall unused apps and turn off Always on Display.
edit: also, check the battery usage of your apps. In my case, Facebook, Tinder (lol), Spotify, Messenger, and Snapchat are the apps that consume my battery a lot. Device Maintenance usually prompts me that about an app excessively using the battery. Nevertheless, hibernating apps would definitely help.
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I did a factory reset on my phone and let it just sit for the whole night. I left it with it a 100% charge and after 6 hours, it drained 20% of my battery
Jostian said:
can confirm that switching data to 2G network vs 3G/LTE has drastically improved my standby time, massively, especially if there is no 3g/LTE in the area, the phone hunts continually for 3G/LTE thus draining battery, but after switching to 2G no problems, just means that internet is damn slow...
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My carrier doesn't support 2g anymore. Also, switching to 3g still doesn't stop the battery drain
RossTeagan said:
This is a strange issue because usually battery drainage happens because of background updates and data transfer of certain apps.
Can you try turning off your mobile data connection and see if the drainage persists? You need to isolate the issue in order to identify it
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I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off
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I turned my mobile date off and still got battery drain, and maybe a lot worst this time. I got 3% drainage for about 30 mins of standby. I have my wifi turned off
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Try to install a data manager/tracking app and another battery tracking app and see if you can get any tangible stats out of those.:fingers-crossed:
I think this may be my problem
https://www.frequencycheck.com/carr...950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream/ntt-docomo-japan
I don't know, I just found this website and found out that there are just few LTE/3G bands that my phone supports, could this be the reason why? anyone?
My usage for the last 2 days until I decided to put a SIM card and enable data
Wow, this thing's battery is inconsistent. Good one day, bad the next. Within 2h 26m, my phone dropped 12% with only 27:38 screen on time. I listened to maybe 4-5 songs in Google Play Music.
Anyone know why Samsung DeX Home would be taking up so much space, and why playing only a few songs *that have been downloaded* is causing a decent drain through GPM?
Not sure what the deal is with Android System Kernel, but it looks like the wakelock is from audioserver.
My S8+ battery performance was not very good since I started using the phone. Installed GSAM and granted it the needed permission via ADB. Recently battery drain has been terrible because mainly of Google Play services as well as FB. Battery only lasted for barely the whole day and sometimes I had to recharge during the evening.
After a lot of search and trial and error including disabling all Bloat ware apps using BK Disabler (as per a post at the beginning of this thread) and which caused more problems actually, I re-enabled all apps again. I installed Greenify with Agressive Doze enabled and Greenifying system apps enabled, but that didn't help either.
Finally, that's what I did and which gave me for the first day since I used the phone 4h15m of SOT and still 54% of my battery remaining!
1- Apps installed: Greenify, BK Disabler (with plug-in), GSAM and Play Services Info.
2- with BK Disabler I disabled all FB related apps (Facebook, FB App Installer, FB App Manager and FB services) and installed instead any 3rd party app like FB Lite, Swift FB, Metal or Friendly.
3- Disabled FB Messenger and installed Messenger Lite.
4- In Greenify, I disabled Agressive Doze and Greenify system apps.
5- I installed the latest Google Play Services Beta app version 12.2.09.
6- I am using Power Saving mode with FHD+ but will try tomorrow without it.
The battery drain was dramatically decreased knowing that I am using 3 email accounts (Gmail, Hotmail and Good for Enterprise), LinkedIn, Instagram, 2 What's app accounts via Parallel Space, Swift FB, Messenger Lite, Telegram as well a bunch of other apps. I am usually using 4G and Wi-Fi while at home with a lot of FB and web browsing.
Hope this post shed some light and help on battery drain issue with the S8+.
Ciao
Note: I had 8+ hours SOT yesterday!!
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hi everyone,
I'm hearing praise everywhere about how great this battery has been with people getting at least 8 to even 12 hours of SOT (average seems to be 10).
so how come my device clearly is much worse in this regard?
I activated black theme wherever I can, turned of scanning for BT and WiFi , use low brightness, the apps I use are not intensive AT ALL (no gaming, no Facebook) , I wiped the device cache, I resteicted battery usage of 155 apps .
it seems that Google play services is somewhat of a problem (which is why I cleared play services , Google and play store cache, as well as resteicted play services usage data), however it isn't even the biggest battery drain . also turned off face unlock.
I tried turning adaptive battery as well as advanced optimisation options on and off but it didn't seem to make a difference.
What could be the reason for the bad battery life?
can you help me? I want to like this phone but it's impossible when I get consistently less than 6h SOT when already making so many compromises (whereas other people seem to be doing no tweaking and get 11 hours)
http :// imgur.com/a/wCjd3kR (no other format available BC I'm a new member)
Also: why does my wallpaper change every time I reboot my phone?
I wasn't doing to well, then I reset my phone and it has been insanely good. I would say I started stock with adding limited apps. I suspect myfitnesspal was hurting my battery so I use the browser version. Right now I have 60% left, been on for 30 hours with 3 SOT. Aiming for 3 days which I have never done on a stock phone.
EspElement said:
I wasn't doing to well, then I reset my phone and it has been insanely good. I would say I started stock with adding limited apps. I suspect myfitnesspal was hurting my battery so I use the browser version. Right now I have 60% left, been on for 30 hours with 3 SOT. Aiming for 3 days which I have never done on a stock phone.
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So what you're suggesting is that I should do a factory reset and then don't use the OnePlus Switch app (like I previously did) to restore my apps but instead install one by one?
I mean I get it that apps like Strava use up a lot of battery but I don't use it very often and with this light usage I expected twice the SOT tbh..
Methylglyoxal said:
So what you're suggesting is that I should do a factory reset and then don't use the OnePlus Switch app (like I previously did) to restore my apps but instead install one by one?
I mean I get it that apps like Strava use up a lot of battery but I don't use it very often and with this light usage I expected twice the SOT tbh..
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Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
hartleyshc said:
Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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Thank you. I will try that on the weekend after monitoring battery life for the days till then. Maybe it randomly resolves itself?
But drag-and-dropping music from my PC (or from my phone to the PC) on the device shouldn't cause corrupt data, right?
Also restricting all these apps and using different kinds of in-built battery savers shouldn't cause reduced battery either, I suppose ? It would be quite counterintuitive.
Sry for asking such naive questions, I'm not very tech-affine
when play services show up as battery hogs the problem is often not within play services but some app using play services.
to save battery many connections (like push notifications) are handled by Google services instead of all apps keeping separate listerners/connections alive. This saves tremendous amounts of battery but makes troubleshooting harder, as the app causing the drain is not showing up under battery stats.
I would also recommend a fresh start.
Don't worry about it so much. 6h SOT is amazing. Set your phone up the way you want it, with the widgets, apps, screen brightness that you want. When was the last time you needed a phone to last three days? I use my phone whenever I want throughout the day: some navigating, some calling, have the screen on for 3-4 hours, and have 30% left when I get home in the evening after 12+ hours off of the charger. Just enjoy the phone.
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Don't worry about it so much. 6h SOT is amazing. Set your phone up the way you want it, with the widgets, apps, screen brightness that you want. When was the last time you needed a phone to last three days? I use my phone whenever I want throughout the day: some navigating, some calling, have the screen on for 3-4 hours, and have 30% left when I get home in the evening after 12+ hours off of the charger. Just enjoy the phone.
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The last time a phone lasted me three days was my Oneplus One, it had better battery life than this.
I'm enjoying the phone but I want what I paid for and it is not such ****ty battery life.
Bäcker said:
when play services show up as battery hogs the problem is often not within play services but some app using play services.
to save battery many connections (like push notifications) are handled by Google services instead of all apps keeping separate listerners/connections alive. This saves tremendous amounts of battery but makes troubleshooting harder, as the app causing the drain is not showing up under battery stats.
I would also recommend a fresh start.
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I practically restricted all apps in both battery and notifications, could that be an issue?
When I factory reset should I not restrict so much this time around (as well as not use OP switch)?
I do not have any app restricted and get during 2 days with 6+h sot.
Also restricting location to GPS only does help save battery. Google now on always listening also drains faster. If you want to use all comfort features that is fine, but you will not get as long battery life and sort compared to ppl not using that stuff
Do a factory reset and then only install the minimum apps you need. when after two days your battery stats do look nice you now know that the device is fine, you can then add more of your apps and monitor what happens.
I personally use titanium backup instead of switch but that requires root.
Bäcker said:
I do not have any app restricted and get during 2 days with 6+h sot.
Also restricting location to GPS only does help save battery. Google now on always listening also drains faster. If you want to use all comfort features that is fine, but you will not get as long battery life and sort compared to ppl not using that stuff
Do a factory reset and then only install the minimum apps you need. when after two days your battery stats do look nice you now know that the device is fine, you can then add more of your apps and monitor what happens.
I personally use titanium backup instead of switch but that requires root.
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I don't really have "a lot of comfort features". I battery restricted most of my apps, use blackmode everywhere, hardly receive notifications anymore, and only use low brightness. I'd expect more than 5h SOT.
I just hope it's not the device
hartleyshc said:
Yes. I've seen all sorts of crazy reports from people using the switch app. Lag, crashes, now bad battery.
You're so much better off just starting fresh, or using some other back up solution.
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I also forgot to mention, I have it set on battery saver, but I mean, I have listened to music thru the speakers for 40 mins, listened to music for about 45 mins over bluetooth, I have a garmin watch that syncs texts and calls, I have real no major compromises (also not rooted, which I have always been a root junky) and I am at 51% with 3.5 SOT with 1.5 hours of voice calls to. I will mention, I froze Chrome and am using Via as my browser, not sure if that is helping or not either.
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Methylglyoxal said:
I don't really have "a lot of comfort features". I battery restricted most of my apps, use blackmode everywhere, hardly receive notifications anymore, and only use low brightness. I'd expect more than 5h SOT.
I just hope it's not the device
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Before I reset, I was getting like 3 SOT... Lol
Give the reset a go.
Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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EspElement said:
I also forgot to mention, I have it set on battery saver, but I mean, I have listened to music thru the speakers for 40 mins, listened to music for about 45 mins over bluetooth, I have a garmin watch that syncs texts and calls, I have real no major compromises (also not rooted, which I have always been a root junky) and I am at 51% with 3.5 SOT with 1.5 hours of voice calls to. I will mention, I froze Chrome and am using Via as my browser, not sure if that is helping or not either.
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Before I reset, I was getting like 3 SOT... Lol
Give the reset a go.
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Insane usage, can't really imagine that rn. Thanks, I maybe will do that on the weekend and report back if I remember. Again, drag-dropping music files from my PC shouldn't be an issue right?
duvee said:
Yeah i hear different reports as well. Im coming from a galaxy s7 edge with max 3 to 4 houra sot.
In the same useage i now have 9 or 10 hours sot. I can easily use the phone 3 days. Never using battery saver btw.
That is with youtube, music, facebook, whatsapp, stream blmusic bluetooth to car, snapchat and plain camera. I really am impressed and sometimes worried because i dont know when to charge lol.
I do hope you will get things right. Google account can bleed your battery with syncing in the background all the time. It was a common problem in android 3 till 7 for the devices i had. Sow restricting sync options for your google account may do a little bit for you? Good luck mate, if i can do anything for you, let me know..
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Thank you. That's the usage I dream of lol. I hope a reset can fix it.Do you have mobile data/cellular active?
Methylglyoxal said:
hi everyone,
I'm hearing praise everywhere about how great this battery has been with people getting at least 8 to even 12 hours of SOT (average seems to be 10).
so how come my device clearly is much worse in this regard?
I activated black theme wherever I can, turned of scanning for BT and WiFi , use low brightness, the apps I use are not intensive AT ALL (no gaming, no Facebook) , I wiped the device cache, I resteicted battery usage of 155 apps .
it seems that Google play services is somewhat of a problem (which is why I cleared play services , Google and play store cache, as well as resteicted play services usage data), however it isn't even the biggest battery drain . also turned off face unlock.
I tried turning adaptive battery as well as advanced optimisation options on and off but it didn't seem to make a difference.
What could be the reason for the bad battery life?
can you help me? I want to like this phone but it's impossible when I get consistently less than 6h SOT when already making so many compromises (whereas other people seem to be doing no tweaking and get 11 hours)
http :// imgur.com/a/wCjd3kR (no other format available BC I'm a new member)
Also: why does my wallpaper change every time I reboot my phone?
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Another factor to battery life is your carrier connection. Who do you use? And how is your reception? Bad reception can easily drain a battery.
Methylglyoxal said:
The last time a phone lasted me three days was my Oneplus One, it had better battery life than this.
I'm enjoying the phone but I want what I paid for and it is not such ****ty battery life.
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I guess everyone's definition of "****ty battery life" is different. What you described sounds like pretty awesome battery life at that much SOT and a full day's battery life.
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Another factor to battery life is your carrier connection. Who do you use? And how is your reception? Bad reception can easily drain a battery.
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Telekom, ie T-Mobile in Germany. I have great reception.
pkadavid said:
I guess everyone's definition of "****ty battery life" is different. What you described sounds like pretty awesome battery life at that much SOT and a full day's battery life.
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Yeah, that was my OnePlue One though. My OP6T has worse battery life now. How is 5h awesome when the average user of the same phone gets twice the amount without restricting all of their phone functionality?
I am also getting around 5 to 6 SOT... so i decided to facory reset and then just add my daily apps ... hopefully it will get better
I work 8 hours a day, during that time im using wifi, then i drive home and do some things outside sow i use 4g connection.. Then im back home and using wifi again.
I think the biggest difference with you guys and me is, i deleted all the system bloatware apps.. I only kept google calandar and play store. It could be that all theae apps i deleted, is causing you guys a poor batt life, because i havent read anybody saying they did the same.
Drag dropping music from your pc is no prob.