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Android OS process eating away battery life

Hi all,
So, this problem appears common on other phones as well, and appears to be a Gingerbread issue. Drilling down further using Watchdog Lite on the phone, it appears to be a process called Suspend causing the high CPU usage.
There are a few threads on this:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126#makechanges
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15057
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10004299&posted=1#post10004299
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/quot-suspend-quot-linux-process/m-p/605813
Personally, I'm getting pretty terrible battery life out of my S2, and I can confirm that in the Battery Status menu, Android OS appears extremely high at around 40% (a friends Nexus has this sitting at around 2%).
Not sure there's much we can do about it but wait and hope for a fix from Samsung (or Google)... People are reporting that rebooting the phone can help, but it's only temporary.
Anyway, just something to check if you're having issues.

+1 second that.
Android os eats the most of the battery
Reboot helps temporarily.
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My os is at 79% i have no idea whats going on? but i am running launcher pro plus?

OK. So now we have identified an "issue".
Could you guys post juiceplotter logs while phone is asleep and draining, and while in use?
For asleep, i mean literally not touching it for half an hour. On, just occasional tap to keep screen on.
What we are after is an idea of what is causing system to use the power. Can we compare configurations of push email etc, to see if anything differs?
Are we rooted? Etc

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How do you do the log thing ?
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pulser_g2 said:
OK. So now we have identified an "issue".
Could you guys post juiceplotter logs while phone is asleep and draining, and while in use?
For asleep, i mean literally not touching it for half an hour. On, just occasional tap to keep screen on.
What we are after is an idea of what is causing system to use the power. Can we compare configurations of push email etc, to see if anything differs?
Are we rooted? Etc
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Hi mate,
I rooted my phone yesterday, but I don't think that's a cause as it was just as bad before. In fact I rooted it just so I could freeze some apps
At the moment, I only have my google account set to sync (calendar, mail, contacts), and I have gmail pushing through emails.
All the stock Samsung apps are frozen. No widgets are running (I'm trying to run it fairly barebones to see how long I can get out of it).
I don't have juiceplotter installed, I'll look into that. I do have Watchdog though, and from all the other threads on this issue the problem seems to be the Suspend process (confirmed by a Google employee).
I don't think there's much we can do aside from wait for a fix. The problem appears to have been around since at least September last year.

I had this the first few days I had the phone, my battery was being wiped out in hours.
I formatted both my mem cards and hard reset. Since then my battey life has been amazing (got through the whole day yesterday only using 25% battery), and os use has dropped to about 18% (still a bit high but better than 40%).

Same issue here, both new flashed roms and my own slim roms suffer from same issue. I have a look tonight if i can find any solution.

simonk83 said:
Hi mate,
I rooted my phone yesterday, but I don't think that's a cause as it was just as bad before. In fact I rooted it just so I could freeze some apps
At the moment, I only have my google account set to sync (calendar, mail, contacts), and I have gmail pushing through emails.
All the stock Samsung apps are frozen. No widgets are running (I'm trying to run it fairly barebones to see how long I can get out of it).
I don't have juiceplotter installed, I'll look into that. I do have Watchdog though, and from all the other threads on this issue the problem seems to be the Suspend process (confirmed by a Google employee).
I don't think there's much we can do aside from wait for a fix. The problem appears to have been around since at least September last year.
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OK. I will see if I can think of anything, as I remember we fixed a similar issue when popping 2.1 onto it, when some binary was giving us trouble...

Root or no root don not affect this issue. Only time i dont get it: fresh flash of new rom without anything installed.

Same issue here and I rooted freezing load of Apps but still drain
*edit*
It seems to stop drain when using reboot the phone.. not yet confirmed just a speculation... Btw these processes eat a lot of battery never got these problems on sgs1 custom gingers rom
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Seem that ginger on SGS 2 has this bug present:
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/04/android-2-3-3-gingerbread-update-killing-nexus-one-battery-life/

Did anyone tried this? I had a similar issue with Gingerbread on SGS1 and it was fixed after clearing the data for System Update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021711

Haven't encountered the problem yet with pretty heavy use plus a few resets. It's probably a specific app or settings that you're turning on/using after each hard reset that causes it.
I'm still on the original firmware though, haven't flashed a new one yet. Might be related.

this is not universal, i don't have this problem. sgs 2 rooted with insecure kernel by chainfire.

*subscribing*
I also have the same drain issue. I have the S2 setup exactly the same way my Captivate was, and the battery life isn't the same.

I got better results after disabling background data in accounts ans sync (settings)
More testing ongoing.

DocRambone said:
I got better results after disabling background data in accounts ans sync (settings)
More testing ongoing.
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Not really relevant I think - all Android users are going to have background data enabled in accounts and sync. Mine is enabled without the issue, anyway. I am only syncing a single gmail account though.
Have you tried what the linked thread recommends - going into manage applications and clearing data for the update system? You might want to try clearing data for all of the android system tasks.

RyanZA said:
Not really relevant I think - all Android users are going to have background data enabled in accounts and sync. Mine is enabled without the issue, anyway. I am only syncing a single gmail account though.
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Yes, but this 2.3.3 bug eat 5-10% battery/h in idle!... so all solutions is good.
I tried a number of "solutions", none helped. The background data seems to help

MaelstromXC said:
Did anyone tried this? I had a similar issue with Gingerbread on SGS1 and it was fixed after clearing the data for System Update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021711
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I just tried this, gonna charge to 100% then unplug it and let juiceplotter run to see what happens. Also I have the Samsung account app frozen.

[Q] my defy is using too much ram

hello guys!
I've change a lot of rom and now i'm using the jb 4.1.2 of quarx (the stable one)
from some days i've noted that though in the settings the ram used is about 250 mb, any other program (clean master, smart cleaner and antivirus) says that my device is using over the 90% of ram.
in fact, my device sometimes is very laggy, until i clean the memory.. what i can do to fix this problem? i thought was a malware, but i cannot find any malware or viruses... help!
sorry for my english

garion86 said:
hello guys!
I've change a lot of rom and now i'm using the jb 4.1.2 of quarx (the stable one)
from some days i've noted that though in the settings the ram used is about 250 mb, any other program (clean master, smart cleaner and antivirus) says that my device is using over the 90% of ram.
in fact, my device sometimes is very laggy, until i clean the memory.. what i can do to fix this problem? i thought was a malware, but i cannot find any malware or viruses... help!
sorry for my english
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Install 'greenify' from the market
And hibernate the apps u dont use,
Install memory booster from market
And keep cleaning the ram once in 10 mins,
And end the apps when u dont use them from the task manager
I m on 4.1.2 as well
I get 200 mb of RAM free on my defy normally
I have more than 100 apps installed
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i'll try, but the problem is that also with another program (like ram booster) the sum of the used app from the list doesn't arrive to 470mb! it arrives at 240 maximum
it seems a "ghost" app is using my ram

garion86 said:
i'll try, but the problem is that also with another program (like ram booster) the sum of the used app from the list doesn't arrive to 470mb! it arrives at 240 maximum
it seems a "ghost" app is using my ram
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Nothing like ghost apps exist in our defy
Cuz its ghost proof as well
Make sure u restart the fone after listening to music
Sent from my MB526 using xda premium

I have the same problem of the wrong RAM usage readings on Easy task killer. I uninstalled it. But unlike you my phone runs fine.
Use greenify as rawwr said, and do not press home button to close an app. Clear recent apps too. In case your Defy has uptime of 5 days or more, then it is mostly be a memory leak.

now i've just done a full wipe, and then i installed mokee os crazy speed
the phone seems right, but the usage of ram is already high (the system says 170mb, all the other programs around 250 )
i really don't know what's happening. I know how to close the apps
any idea?

garion86 said:
now i've just done a full wipe, and then i installed mokee os crazy speed
the phone seems right, but the usage of ram is already high (the system says 170mb, all the other programs around 250 )
i really don't know what's happening. I know how to close the apps
any idea?
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Probably one of your app is back biting you
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two things here:
How much ram you have free is of consequence if your phone is laggy. facebook *example* by default is a laggy app. if its your first time logging into an app even in 24 hours its going to do that. most would assume it to be attributed to ram. not always the case.
second. decide what apps you keep switching in and out of; take a day or two to do it. then keep those apps in memory. for example i use contacts, whatsapp, sms, instagram and twitter a lot. so i keep them in ram. foursquare not so much so i greenify it. this process helps you do thinks you need to do.
but if you still think its ram try another OS or an overclock

valhallen.282 said:
two things here:
How much ram you have free is of consequence if your phone is laggy. facebook *example* by default is a laggy app. if its your first time logging into an app even in 24 hours its going to do that. most would assume it to be attributed to ram. not always the case.
second. decide what apps you keep switching in and out of; take a day or two to do it. then keep those apps in memory. for example i use contacts, whatsapp, sms, instagram and twitter a lot. so i keep them in ram. foursquare not so much so i greenify it. this process helps you do thinks you need to do.
but if you still think its ram try another OS or an overclock
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i've already overclocked my phone with mokee os it's no laggy, but I have this ram drain
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as you see, there is a difference instead clean master and application list of android, but in every list we can't read why the phone has only around 160 mb of free ram. if we sum the ram usage of every single process, we can't have that result...
any idea?

The difference here is that the system is not showing you the cached processes. Add that in and you will get the sum total of used ram. Cached processes are relatively fluid duo they come and go.
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ok then

SmartWatch PS-SW308 - MTK6517 energy saving

Good day!
A few days ago I receive my SmartWatch PS-SW308 from cwell-hk.com shop.
Device is very useful. Work fine with Android 4.0.4. But battery is very poor.
If at 6 am I disconnect them from charger with 100% charged, now is 10:14 am and it is already 82% charged.
CPU is MTK6517.
Please help! What I can do for extend working time?
In battery log is:
Cell standby = 51%
Phone idle = 48%
and nothing else.
Happy to answer any questions on the device

Is your email set up?
Are you running ANY social media apps?
Have you installed any additional apps?
If yes then what apps have you installed?
Are you using it as a phone or a companion device?
If you are using it as a phone, what is your signal level like?
Is WiFi on?
Is Bluetooth on and are you using it?
The MTK6517 is a Cortex A9 which tends to be a little more power hungry but hopefully we can help you get some better battery life out of it.
I'll alos have some other questions and a request or two but will wait til after you answer the others.

Lokifish Marz said:
Is your email set up?
Are you running ANY social media apps?
Have you installed any additional apps?
If yes then what apps have you installed?
Are you using it as a phone or a companion device?
If you are using it as a phone, what is your signal level like?
Is WiFi on?
Is Bluetooth on and are you using it?
The MTK6517 is a Cortex A9 which tends to be a little more power hungry but hopefully we can help you get some better battery life out of it.
I'll alos have some other questions and a request or two but will wait til after you answer the others.
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Thank you for your reply.
- yes, I connect one email - google account with push.
- no. Social software not installed.
- installed only Browser, E-Mail Client, Play Store and Gmail. Other apps is not sunchronise data from Internet (file manager, clock, SIM Manager, etc)
- yes, I use it as a phone, but no calls, no messages... Mobile data is off. Only network idle phone process - I want to know how long its will be work in idle mode ...
- Signal may be variable - in Moscow metro is poor, on the street - good level.
- Wi-Fi - off, BT - off, in the future I planning to use BT headset with that.
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Disable push and set the sync time to something more reasonable. I normally set my devices to one hour and have folks text me if I need to check it right away.
Low signal will eat a battery on some devices. That may be part of the issue here.
Set screen timeout to 15sec
If rooted then try a CPU app (may take testing a couple apps before you find the right one) and try to get as close as you can to the following;
Min-216, Max-750, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline
Profiles:
Screen Off: 216-312, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline, Exclusive
Call State (In Call): 216-456, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline, Exclusive
Charging State (Charging): 216-max, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline
Also set Play Store to only update over WiFi.

Lokifish Marz said:
Disable push and set the sync time to something more reasonable. I normally set my devices to one hour and have folks text me if I need to check it right away.
Low signal will eat a battery on some devices. That may be part of the issue here.
Set screen timeout to 15sec
If rooted then try a CPU app (may take testing a couple apps before you find the right one) and try to get as close as you can to the following;
Min-216, Max-750, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline
Profiles:
Screen Off: 216-312, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline, Exclusive
Call State (In Call): 216-456, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline, Exclusive
Charging State (Charging): 216-max, Governor-Powersave, Sheduler-Deadline
Also set Play Store to only update over WiFi.
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Thank you for tips. I already set parameters as you write above, but receive very small profit.
Yesterday evening I turn off radio module and battery is 18% off charge (about 11 pm). Today morning (6:15am) it is 1% and shutdown when I turn on screen for check battery log.
I think its not rooted. How I can check that?
'su' command in terminal emulator write that application not installed.
What CPU app do you recommends for me?
p.s.: sorry for my very bad english...

Sounds like you are not rooted. Wish I wasn't still two weeks away from getting my hands on a similar device. Hit up the GiGs Samrtwatch thread as the devices are the same. They are talking root and may have some on hands help that I can't provide yet. Once you get root we can go from there. CleadD is also a good dev to ask for help as well.

Lokifish Marz said:
Sounds like you are not rooted. Wish I wasn't still two weeks away from getting my hands on a similar device. Hit up the GiGs Samrtwatch thread as the devices are the same. They are talking root and may have some on hands help that I can't provide yet. Once you get root we can go from there. CleadD is also a good dev to ask for help as well.
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This is a great news!
Today evening I try to get root. But afraid get a brick
With CPU Identifier recognize that CPU is MTK6577, its very strange, because seller write that them is MTK6517.
What do you think? May be that?

rum dump
can somebody please upload firmware files? thank you

frantisheq said:
can somebody please upload firmware files? thank you
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Please help me to do firmware file.
I try to use MTK Droid Root & Tools v.2.4.8 but its don't work - restarting and no root access enabled.
I try to get root with Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v29 but no results
I try MTK6589_6577_w6575_V1.06 - but root not enabled.
SP_Flash_Tool_v3.1224.01 is "Searching" and not find anything.
Once what I can do is get scatter file from device with map of memory blocks.

Good day.
I get root via Framaroot 1.6.1 with Boromir exploit and install SuperSU.
All works fine

frantisheq said:
can somebody please upload firmware files? thank you
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What firmware files do you need?
I can do backup for you.

that would be great, my smartwatch won't boot so i'd like to reflash all the system using sp flash tool

frantisheq said:
that would be great, my smartwatch won't boot so i'd like to reflash all the system using sp flash tool
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Good day.
I upload some files to yandex.disk.
There is:
Boot.img - http://yadi.sk/d/7fV-IdnLBd2fJ
MBR - http://yadi.sk/d/xLP9TIGKBd2ox
recovery - http://yadi.sk/d/QtAazCERBd2sN
uboot.bin - http://yadi.sk/d/-Ybjpg4CBd2wk
scatter file - http://yadi.sk/d/T0MXNUcTBd32x
firmware.info - http://yadi.sk/d/1gQ8bVCRBd36g
I do it with MTK Droid Tools v.2.4.8
I hope its help you.

thanks a lot but i'll need android/system part or what it's called too, not just boot loader and recovery

frantisheq said:
thanks a lot but i'll need android/system part or what it's called too, not just boot loader and recovery
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system.ext4.img - http://yadi.sk/d/etolyy0cBeKuA (524 288 Kb)
system.ext4.tar - http://yadi.sk/d/v6rsnR6FBeLCc (276 970 Kb)

If your shield tablet occasionally lags

Hi guys! If you're like me who is forever frustrated with the occasional lags of this supposedly fast device (especially during wake up after long sleep scenario) and also afraid to change their settings during firmware updates, maybe you'd like to consider what I did:
Setup: US LTE device using RoW LTE ROM 5.1, unrooted, TWRP Recovery
History: would just passively update or restore old settings every firmware updates/flashing of mods since lollipop days. Antutu performance is between 60k-92k, with around 80k average in latest firmware (which is absurd). Occasional lags after using the device for a while
Methods:
Factory reset/DO NOT restore old settings and apps, literally start from scratch (you may back up your old data if that's important)
No Google now
No antivirus/malware apps
No Google keyboard
So far, didn't install Facebook and Messenger
Effects (after 2 days observation):
tablet is smooth, AND VERY stable (lagged only once, during initial setup, while updating Google apps)
Apps open quickly, chrome doesn't lag ESP when keyboard is activated
Battery life and management considerably improved
CPU use seems to have been more effective than before (used to be always at around 90-100%, and very hot). Antutu averages at 93k now
Gaming experience is much better
Connectivity is also improved, my controller no longer occasionally disconnects
Background and active App processes no longer crashes (I've always been hassled by app crashes ever since I was on nougat)
Post Analysis:
I suspect that I may have unwittingly installed malicious apps or used faulty settings in the past which persisted throughout my updates and that could have caused severe lagging and very poor user experience on this device. I'm just a regular customer with little background on computer processes, and my claims may be baseless in the eyes of hardcore developers, but my aim is to just provide alternative approach to other frustrated customers.
Ive always thought Nvidia native apps and processes might be causing these annoying lags, since everytime I use custom ROMs (which don't have these apps), the device would operate like a Nexus machine - smooth, snappy, and stable. But I'm a huge fan of the controller, video output, and the dabbler, so I'm stuck with stock (pun intended).
I've never been ON MY SHIELD TABLET for more than 20 hours straight until now. I've never enjoyed using it before. I hope this awesome experience continues longer and more permanently. For those who are interested, let me know if you've tried this and what happened? Maybe this can help rule out hardware issues or manufacturing-related defects.

Pretty sure removing Facebook would be enough, atleast for me...

The best way to remove lags is flash recovery images : https://developer.nvidia.com/gameworksdownload
5.0 images are available just flash it using fastboot adb flash.

Bryandu13 said:
The best way to remove lags is flash recovery images : https://developer.nvidia.com/gameworksdownload
5.0 images are available just flash it using fastboot adb flash.
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I used to think that way as well. But since I played around with this tablet from its KitKat days, I noticed that it becomes laggy over a period of time. Everytime I convert this device to it's fresh state again (using recovery rom) and then restore my apps and settings using Google backup, same issues happen. The only time I was able to really achieve a stable and amazing experience was this time. Fresh from recovery, factory reset, and then installation of apps from scratch. Never had any lags or crashes ever since I posted this. Some faulty bugs must have been wiped out a long the way. I don't know. Lol
To conclude, congrats to Nvidia developers team! They nailed it this time! hope this tablet will reach android o.

Running latest Stock with root access I disabled some bloatware including official launcher and replaced it with Nova.
Things are smooth now.
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MrKaon said:
Running latest Stock with root access I disabled some bloatware including official launcher and replaced it with Nova.
Things are smooth now.
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I just clean flashed to 5.1 and all is well. How did you root it?
I want to change readahead which was most of the problem in the past, not to mention ad blocker! I love Nova.
I can't really confirm but I think the lags on this model are due to it using ghetto-slow nvram, and thermal throttling. Maybe readahead too and Nvidia "enhancements" or all 4. I can tell for sure the nvram is butt slow on this device, but I'll bench N once it settles down. Readahead has dramatically cleared up lags on my older devices, such that why buy new ones. 2Mb on Nexus 6 and that thing now flies and is buttery smooth. This tablet is an enigma, there seem to be many engineering issues with it.
BTW - I had some stuff left over from lineage (cyano), so if you guys are flashing to stock, I recommend that you get twrp (latest), boot to recovery and WIPE everything including userdata. I normally wipe everything first, then userdata. Once I did that (and wiped SD) everything came up like a champ.
Also I had a heck of a time w/ the drivers on Windows 10, but I installed the shield USB drivers, and then I used miniadb. I was concerned on sparse w/ system but it worked just fine. The Nvidia instructions are dated, you can just run the flash-all.bat rather than typing all of the fastboot commands. They also recommend you get fastboot from Google. Don't bother as they have removed adb/fastboot from the command line tools and you will need to download the entire SDK or install it via CLI.
Nvidia should really spend 10 minuted updating their documentation...

The lag was fixed in the 5.2 update. It disables Doze by default now. Some even suggest that turning Doze back on works fine.

98419 on my stock k1 using 5.2, disabled unless stuff manually, and optimized settings.

OPPO Watch International Version

Hey Guys,
Just bought an OPPO Watch, Australia Wear OS.
For me at least the watch is pretty good, Still needs some software/firmware development but very fast and for me the battery lasts two days easily.
Couple of observations that others may be able to help with or ideas.
After watching several YouTube videos there appears to be (on the Chinese version) about 3 times more watch faces available. Only seems to be about 13 available to me on the international version. And they are not very practical faces.
Also the Chinese version seems to come with an app called "App Market" where you can download apps (and faces) specific to the oppo watch. A bit like Samsung watches. This app is nowhere to be found on my OPPO Watch.
It has a few quirks, The inbuilt timer (which is a direct visual copy of Apple watch) gives no audio notification when finished if you are wearing the watch. However if you are not wearing it then there is an Audio notification(very strange).
Anyway maybe others will engage in this discussion.
Cheers
Chris

I have already my 2nd Oppo Watch and it suffers from a screen burned-in issue. If you enable the Always-On-Display, after few hours you can see the ghost image:
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You can clearly see in the background the "X" coming from the one of the default Oppo watchfaces.
I have reported it to the customer care in Poland, they've sent me a new one with the same issue:
After reporting it back, they did some test on multiple other parts and proved the issue is there on all of them and it's unsolvable. It looks like Oppo released an untested product with a major screen issue. Only thing they offered me is the money back...

Burn in is not good! Wait for next generation....

Thats really bad. Surly we got over the screen burning issues with devices back in the days of plazma TVs. My very First Apple Watch original had the same burn in problem, however that seemed to be fixed with a firmware update.
Fortunately its not really a problem for me. I am not a fan of always on displays , and never use them on Watches or phones.

^^ yes, I understand that the screen burn in is something that must happen after some time (like months) of usage, but not after few hours!
Anyway, I fully agree with you - when you don't use AOD, you probably won't have this issue. Moreover, if you turn the screen off completely for few hours (for example overnight) then the ghost image is gone. It's back again after about 2-3 h of AOD.
I hope to get this fixed by FW update instead of money back.

Oppo just confirmed the issue and they will be rolling out an update this week that is supposed to minimise this issue. We will see...

kicikk said:
Oppo just confirmed the issue and they will be rolling out an update this week that is supposed to minimise this issue. We will see...
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Hopefully any update will also fix the issues I raised in my first post. Very limited number of watch faces available to international customers. And no access to the oppo app store.

I think the international version will never gain the access to the Oppo App Store, as this is only for the China Market. The Chinese model itself is not based on WearOS so they had to invent some substitute to the Google Play Store in order to allow users to download apps. Similar situation happened to Huawei when they had to remove Google Services.
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I have checked your issue with the timer and indeed - it behaves the same on mine. But if you don't like it, you can just install the Google one and this one works fine.

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I think the international version will never gain the access to the Oppo App Store, as this is only for the China Market. The Chinese model itself is not based on WearOS so they had to invent some substitute to the Google Play Store in order to allow users to download apps. Similar situation happened to Huawei when they had to remove Google Services.
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I have checked your issue with the timer and indeed - it behaves the same on mine. But if you don't like it, you can just install the Google one and this one works fine.
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The lack of the Oppo App store is probably not a big deal. Just that from videos I have seen they have access to some terrific watch faces (mostly copies of apple watch ones). As for the timer, glad to know you have the same problem. I too installed the Google one and works fine. I just think the inbuilt one is more elegant.
A great App to install for notifications is "Feel the Wear"

I have found another issue. This one with the clock. After 2-3 weeks the clock is showing time +1 minute, although it is getting the time from the phone all the time. The phone itself has correct time. To fix it you have to force the time synchronization (in the watch settings disable auto time and enable back).
Frankly speaking it's a bit ridiculous that the watch can't display the time properly...

So I got today the promised software update. Looks like they've replaced the AOD screen of the mentioned watch face with an AOD of another watch face (the one with animated "flower") so it doesn't display the X anymore. Additionally they've introduced small movement of the AOD screen every few mins so that not always the same pixels are used to display the content. This seems to have fixed the issue.
Btw., Chris, the issue with the timer is still there

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I have found another issue. This one with the clock. After 2-3 weeks the clock is showing time +1 minute, although it is getting the time from the phone all the time. The phone itself has correct time. To fix it you have to force the time synchronization (in the watch settings disable auto time and enable back).
Frankly speaking it's a bit ridiculous that the watch can't display the time properly...
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That is pretty bad. Although I don't think that time synchronization problem is exclusive to Oppo Watch. Years ago I had an LG android watch and it use to get out of sync with just about everything.
Fortunately I don't have the problem you describe on my Oppo Watch. I live in a border town where one side is on Daylight saving time and the other not, so I imagine the clock is synchronizing several times a day.