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Android OS process eating away battery life

Hi all,
So, this problem appears common on other phones as well, and appears to be a Gingerbread issue. Drilling down further using Watchdog Lite on the phone, it appears to be a process called Suspend causing the high CPU usage.
There are a few threads on this:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126#makechanges
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15057
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10004299&posted=1#post10004299
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/myTouch-4G/quot-suspend-quot-linux-process/m-p/605813
Personally, I'm getting pretty terrible battery life out of my S2, and I can confirm that in the Battery Status menu, Android OS appears extremely high at around 40% (a friends Nexus has this sitting at around 2%).
Not sure there's much we can do about it but wait and hope for a fix from Samsung (or Google)... People are reporting that rebooting the phone can help, but it's only temporary.
Anyway, just something to check if you're having issues.

+1 second that.
Android os eats the most of the battery
Reboot helps temporarily.
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My os is at 79% i have no idea whats going on? but i am running launcher pro plus?

OK. So now we have identified an "issue".
Could you guys post juiceplotter logs while phone is asleep and draining, and while in use?
For asleep, i mean literally not touching it for half an hour. On, just occasional tap to keep screen on.
What we are after is an idea of what is causing system to use the power. Can we compare configurations of push email etc, to see if anything differs?
Are we rooted? Etc

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How do you do the log thing ?
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pulser_g2 said:
OK. So now we have identified an "issue".
Could you guys post juiceplotter logs while phone is asleep and draining, and while in use?
For asleep, i mean literally not touching it for half an hour. On, just occasional tap to keep screen on.
What we are after is an idea of what is causing system to use the power. Can we compare configurations of push email etc, to see if anything differs?
Are we rooted? Etc
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Hi mate,
I rooted my phone yesterday, but I don't think that's a cause as it was just as bad before. In fact I rooted it just so I could freeze some apps
At the moment, I only have my google account set to sync (calendar, mail, contacts), and I have gmail pushing through emails.
All the stock Samsung apps are frozen. No widgets are running (I'm trying to run it fairly barebones to see how long I can get out of it).
I don't have juiceplotter installed, I'll look into that. I do have Watchdog though, and from all the other threads on this issue the problem seems to be the Suspend process (confirmed by a Google employee).
I don't think there's much we can do aside from wait for a fix. The problem appears to have been around since at least September last year.

I had this the first few days I had the phone, my battery was being wiped out in hours.
I formatted both my mem cards and hard reset. Since then my battey life has been amazing (got through the whole day yesterday only using 25% battery), and os use has dropped to about 18% (still a bit high but better than 40%).

Same issue here, both new flashed roms and my own slim roms suffer from same issue. I have a look tonight if i can find any solution.

simonk83 said:
Hi mate,
I rooted my phone yesterday, but I don't think that's a cause as it was just as bad before. In fact I rooted it just so I could freeze some apps
At the moment, I only have my google account set to sync (calendar, mail, contacts), and I have gmail pushing through emails.
All the stock Samsung apps are frozen. No widgets are running (I'm trying to run it fairly barebones to see how long I can get out of it).
I don't have juiceplotter installed, I'll look into that. I do have Watchdog though, and from all the other threads on this issue the problem seems to be the Suspend process (confirmed by a Google employee).
I don't think there's much we can do aside from wait for a fix. The problem appears to have been around since at least September last year.
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OK. I will see if I can think of anything, as I remember we fixed a similar issue when popping 2.1 onto it, when some binary was giving us trouble...

Root or no root don not affect this issue. Only time i dont get it: fresh flash of new rom without anything installed.

Same issue here and I rooted freezing load of Apps but still drain
*edit*
It seems to stop drain when using reboot the phone.. not yet confirmed just a speculation... Btw these processes eat a lot of battery never got these problems on sgs1 custom gingers rom
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Seem that ginger on SGS 2 has this bug present:
http://phandroid.com/2011/03/04/android-2-3-3-gingerbread-update-killing-nexus-one-battery-life/

Did anyone tried this? I had a similar issue with Gingerbread on SGS1 and it was fixed after clearing the data for System Update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021711

Haven't encountered the problem yet with pretty heavy use plus a few resets. It's probably a specific app or settings that you're turning on/using after each hard reset that causes it.
I'm still on the original firmware though, haven't flashed a new one yet. Might be related.

this is not universal, i don't have this problem. sgs 2 rooted with insecure kernel by chainfire.

*subscribing*
I also have the same drain issue. I have the S2 setup exactly the same way my Captivate was, and the battery life isn't the same.

I got better results after disabling background data in accounts ans sync (settings)
More testing ongoing.

DocRambone said:
I got better results after disabling background data in accounts ans sync (settings)
More testing ongoing.
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Not really relevant I think - all Android users are going to have background data enabled in accounts and sync. Mine is enabled without the issue, anyway. I am only syncing a single gmail account though.
Have you tried what the linked thread recommends - going into manage applications and clearing data for the update system? You might want to try clearing data for all of the android system tasks.

RyanZA said:
Not really relevant I think - all Android users are going to have background data enabled in accounts and sync. Mine is enabled without the issue, anyway. I am only syncing a single gmail account though.
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Yes, but this 2.3.3 bug eat 5-10% battery/h in idle!... so all solutions is good.
I tried a number of "solutions", none helped. The background data seems to help

MaelstromXC said:
Did anyone tried this? I had a similar issue with Gingerbread on SGS1 and it was fixed after clearing the data for System Update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021711
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I just tried this, gonna charge to 100% then unplug it and let juiceplotter run to see what happens. Also I have the Samsung account app frozen.

[App] Pedometer using hardware step sensor

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Hello everyone, since I received my Nexus 5 I have been working on an app that uses the low powered step counter API new in KitKat.
How this is different from most other pedometer apps is that with the hardware step sensor, this app uses almost no additional battery so you can keep it running all day. In my testing I noticed no difference in battery life between a day with Pedometer running and a day without it.
From the Google Play description:
Features:
- Set your goal! It is recommended that you take 10000 steps a day. This app allows you to set a goal that's right for you, and displays your current progress.
- Track your progress! This app will keep track of how much and how far you walked, all day, every day. History is presented neatly, both in a list and a graph for easy viewing.
- Colorful themes: choose one of 5 themes that fill your display with color, or go with the standard holo light or dark. With 7 themes in total, there's one for everyone!
- Low powered: Unlike other pedometer apps, this one will not affect your battery life at all.
- Achievements and leaderboards: sign in with your Google+ account to unlock achievements and compete with your friends in leaderboards!
- Both single-day and multi-day achievements are available
- [Pro only] Walk info: see how far you've walked today. Calorie counter coming soon.
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Often times I'm too lazy to carry my Fitbit with me, especially since having it sync to my phone drains battery. With my phone being the pedometer I feel that I've been motivated to be more active.
There is also a pro version you can buy if you'd like to support me. This pro version currently adds a distance counter, so you can see how far you've walked all day. I plan on adding more pro-only features in the future, such as a calorie counter and maybe a widget. But don't worry, the free version will still be perfectly capable of serving as your daily pedometer. If a feature is extremely popular within the pro version I'll consider adding it to the free version as well.
Downloads: Free version, Pro version ($2.99)
I have used only three permissions. One is start on boot. This is used to start counting as soon as you start the device. The other two are write (and therefore read) external storage. This is used solely for the purpose of exporting logs to assist with debugging if the need arises. Don't worry, your data is safe, and this app will not be sending away any of your information.
If you have any questions of suggestions feel free to contact me, I try to respond within the same day.
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Changelog
Mar. 27, 2014: v1.2.0
- Added long awaited history feature!
- Multi-day achievements for Google Play Games!
- Another attempt to fix inaccurate step count
- Added option to display imperial units (pro only)
- More UI optimizations and bug fixes for better use experience
- Preparation for new feature: activities!
Jan. 4, 2014: v1.1.2
- UI optimizations
Jan. 2, 2014: v1.1, v1.1.1
- Added Google Play Games (achievements and leaderboards)
- Low priority persistent notification
- Walk info screen [Pro]
- Bug fixes
Dec. 25, 2013: v1.0
- initial release

Gonna give this a go for the next few days. Thanks!

Ok just downloaded it. We will see how it compares to my fitbit one for a week
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I'm working on a rather big update, includes more Fitbit-like features such as history and activities. The basic features is about done, gonna make it look nice now and test it some more. Might upload a beta apk and post the Google Play beta link here for anyone interested in testing. I'm hoping to officially release the update in a week or so, so stayed tuned!

Have you thought about partnering with a rewards company or something? Would be interesting if you could get coupons or discounts from achieving the 10,000 steps or so.

Love it!
ickboblikescheese said:
I'm working on a rather big update, includes more Fitbit-like features such as history and activities. The basic features is about done, gonna make it look nice now and test it some more. Might upload a beta apk and post the Google Play beta link here for anyone interested in testing. I'm hoping to officially release the update in a week or so, so stayed tuned!
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Hi. I just got my Nexus 5 yesterday. Your app was one of the first I downloaded as I had an S4 and was looking for a low battery pedometer like the S-Health app. Yours looks great, and is pretty accurate (and NO battery drain!). One issue, I had to reboot the phone and when it started again it only showed about half of my steps??... I would love to beta test the app for you. Keep up the good work. (I also would love to have history and be able to see previous days step counts, etc.)

One of my biggest gripes is when driving, all pedometer apps keep counting. There is usually a pause feature or something similar, but it would be ideal if it could detect if you are driving or not. If this is not easily achievable, is there an intent or something else I can use with Tasker to control this app?
Thanks, and it looks really promising!
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Touchless Control
Good App! thank you for building something like this. I love the statement:
Low powered: Unlike other pedometer apps, this one will not affect your battery life at all.
If its not too much, can you also look into building an app for the always listening/touchless control feature that uses the low powered core? We have another thread with a bounty on this feature.
Har5h

fiftyclick said:
One of my biggest gripes is when driving, all pedometer apps keep counting. There is usually a pause feature or something similar, but it would be ideal if it could detect if you are driving or not. If this is not easily achievable, is there an intent or something else I can use with Tasker to control this app?
Thanks, and it looks really promising!
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Detecting if you are driving or not would require GPS or some form of location service, which negates the advantages of using a low powered sensor. In the current version (1.1.2) there is a pause button, but as I'm removing that in 1.2.0 for something else, you could use Tasker to force stop the app to stop counting, and use Tasker to launch the app/quickly go home to start the counting service again.
hrm5023 said:
Good App! thank you for building something like this. I love the statement:
Low powered: Unlike other pedometer apps, this one will not affect your battery life at all.
If its not too much, can you also look into building an app for the always listening/touchless control feature that uses the low powered core? We have another thread with a bounty on this feature.
Har5h
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Sorry, but I don't know a thing about using hardware specific features. I'm actually quite new to programming, this project is the first big thing I made.
Sent from my Nexus 5

fiftyclick said:
One of my biggest gripes is when driving, all pedometer apps keep counting. There is usually a pause feature or something similar, but it would be ideal if it could detect if you are driving or not. If this is not easily achievable, is there an intent or something else I can use with Tasker to control this app?
Thanks, and it looks really promising!
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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I don't think it kept counting when I was driving the other day. If it did it didn't count a lot.

Accuracy
Hey, has anybody made a accuracy test?
Thanks

Any plans to have this push results to something like FitBit or MyFitnessPal?
As for the driving thing, could you add an option for bluetooth device connected?
Example Interface:
Do not count steps if the following device is connected: (check boxes)
- Car Radio
- Headphones
- Phone Radio
- BlueTooth Headset
Do not count steps if plugged into a power source: (pull down)
USB
AC
Any
Disabled
In this way, you could set the device not to count steps if you are in your car (connected to your car radio via blutooth or maybe plugged into a power source).
I would think the power draw of these options would be in line with your design goal of keeping it to a minimum.
I have not used the app very long (pro version), does it keep track of history? An example would be a daily summary of steps/distance.
In this way, manually importing the information into other fitness trackers is easier.
Thank you for your consideration!

maddbomber83 said:
Any plans to have this push results to something like FitBit or MyFitnessPal?
As for the driving thing, could you add an option for bluetooth device connected?
Example Interface:
Do not count steps if the following device is connected: (check boxes)
- Car Radio
- Headphones
- Phone Radio
- BlueTooth Headset
Do not count steps if plugged into a power source: (pull down)
USB
AC
Any
Disabled
In this way, you could set the device not to count steps if you are in your car (connected to your car radio via blutooth or maybe plugged into a power source).
I would think the power draw of these options would be in line with your design goal of keeping it to a minimum.
I have not used the app very long (pro version), does it keep track of history? An example would be a daily summary of steps/distance.
In this way, manually importing the information into other fitness trackers is easier.
Thank you for your consideration!
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What you say about charging and Bluetooth connected should be simple enough to add, I'll see if I can add it. History is also coming in the next version, here's a sneak peek at what I have so far
Of course, your full history will also be viewable and can be exported as CSV, although that part isn't quite done yet.
Sent from my Nexus 5

ickboblikescheese said:
What you say about charging and Bluetooth connected should be simple enough to add, I'll see if I can add it. History is also coming in the next version, here's a sneak peek at what I have so far
View attachment 2536576
Of course, your full history will also be viewable and can be exported as CSV, although that part isn't quite done yet.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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Thanks for such a simple app. It worked fine for the first day. However, it's not working now. I have restarted phone, still same result. After first day in the night, i press pause button. Next day i pressed play, but it's not counting steps. Do you have any update coming out soon?

It works, and the UI is "clean" and easy, but the count is not perfetc... can't it be optimized?

matteventu said:
It works, and the UI is "clean" and easy, but the count is not perfetc... can't it be optimized?
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It's difficult to differential a person physically shaking the phone versus actual walking. The fitbit series face the same problem as well
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id4398 said:
Thanks for such a simple app. It worked fine for the first day. However, it's not working now. I have restarted phone, still same result. After first day in the night, i press pause button. Next day i pressed play, but it's not counting steps. Do you have any update coming out soon?
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Try force stopping it, clearing data, rebooting, then launch it again and press start. It worked fine for me, not sure why that happened. But yes, I do have an update coming out soon, although I've been very busy lately and haven't had time to work on it.
matteventu said:
It works, and the UI is "clean" and easy, but the count is not perfetc... can't it be optimized?
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Fixes to step count will be in next release, but not sure when that will be because as I said, very busy. Hopefully I can get it out before I leave for a band trip early February.
detdett said:
It's difficult to differential a person physically shaking the phone versus actual walking. The fitbit series face the same problem as well
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Do you mean it will also count shakes? That's normal, as how it counts by detecting the accelerate/decelerate patterns of walking. It just happens that you can replicate it by shaking. And that's not really a problem of the app specifically, I'm just catching events from when the sensor thinks it detects a step and then displaying that.

Couldnt make it work.. Will try again later tho..
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Same issues with the app picking up steps while driving as others have experienced. 20mile drive this morning, over 3000 steps.
Perhaps a simple logic could be if phone is charging then stop counting.
Other than that app seems pretty good, simple.

does it count miles/km , calories burned etc?

Will Lollipop save my Moto X?

I've been using the Moto X for a few days now and getting increasingly frustrated with it because Motorola have removed/changed features in their not so "Pure Android" build.
At this point I've already requested Motorola to arrange a return.
My main gripes are 2 features that I used daily:
1. They appear to have removed internet calling from the dialer, I can no longer receive calls on my business SIP line without third party software.
2. The equaliser doesn't work with bluetooth headphones. This device actually makes Beats Studio Wireless headphones sound tinny. I've tried a couple of the "top rated' EQ apps but the Moto X still sounds inferior to the Nexus 5.
Could anyone with Lollipop possibly confirm if either of these standard features on a Nexus device are available in Moto X Lollipop?

Internet dialer is a nexus exclusive. Not sure about the equalizer on Bluetooth.
Have you tried side loading the nexus dialer? I believe there is a thread in the themes and apps section.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2925787
Google Dialer

I thing this is not a dialer issue. If you're rooted, unzip attached file and put it into the system/etc/permissions. Than change permissions of the file to rw-r-r. Find internet calling in your dialer menu and set credentials. If you succeed please leave the observations. Especially how the voice sound on the other end (possible distortion or echo).

svtfmook said:
Internet dialer is a nexus exclusive. Not sure about the equalizer on Bluetooth.
Have you tried side loading the nexus dialer? I believe there is a thread in the themes and apps section.
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This is a bit of an improvement from the default dialer, you get the caller id stuff but no internet calling.

piskr said:
I thing this is not a dialer issue. If you're rooted, unzip attached file and put it into the system/etc/permissions. Than change permissions of the file to rw-r-r. Find internet calling in your dialer menu and set credentials. If you succeed please leave the observations. Especially how the voice sound on the other end (possible distortion or echo).
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I'll give this a try later and see if it works, fingers crossed as carrying 3 phones around is a massive pain!

Im on lollipop. Don't see SIP options in dialer. Google voice is an option for internet calking ,as its integrated into hangouts now.
As far as EQ, stock one doesn't do Bluetooth but I'm using this eq which does
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.smartandroidapps.equalizer

#2
Ive been having similar issues with my audio out, either in my car or with my headphones. The max output is considerably lower than my HTC 8X and overall i found it to be kind of flat even with a good EQ. Ive tried over 10 different EQ including using a local player like Poweramp that has good controls but it doesnt make any real difference.
Ive actually found a benchmark for audio out and it does seem that this phone is being held back. Music is a big part of the use for my phone so if i cant get it right I may also return mine. I have been doing some reading and it sounds like ViPER4ANDROID may fix the problem but you will have to root your device. Ive never done that before but XDA has a ton of very helpful resources so I am consider trying it.
the benchmark can be found over at Phone Arena, sorry im not able to post the link since im still a new user.
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There's a workaround for native SIP here for moto g, i think it would work for moto x 2014,too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/mod-enable-native-sip-voip-calls-t2826500

I'm just waiting for Faux123 kernel once stable Lollipop is released

MyMotoXhummm said:
#2
Ive been having similar issues with my audio out, either in my car or with my headphones. The max output is considerably lower than my HTC 8X and overall i found it to be kind of flat even with a good EQ. Ive tried over 10 different EQ including using a local player like Poweramp that has good controls but it doesnt make any real difference.
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I thought the DAC was part of the the snapdragon 801 processor, both the M8 and moto x have the same 801

I've been quite busy and haven't had a chance to try any of the suggested solutions yet, but I need to send the phone back now so will try and check them out before I do.
The phone has grown on me and if it wasn't for the fact I just ordered another X on the Cyber Monday deal for £100 cheaper I would have kept it after all.

Have you been able to test the mod for SIP VoIP? I'm also missing this feature coming from my Nexus...
PS
Merry Christmas!

The lack of Bluetooth Audio EQ is pretty frustrating, I agree. I will try Viper4Android eventually but I worry that it might bypass the dedicated audio chipset, significantly increasing battery drain.

It's even worse with Lollipop, I was using Bass Booster Pro which worked great on Kitkat but is non-functional on Lollipop...
I've been using my Nexus 5 for listening to music as the Moto X fails miserably in this area.

I followed the instructions in this Moto G thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/mod-enable-native-sip-voip-calls-t2826500
and it unleashed the SIP VoIP features on my XT1095 a la Nexus!
I have successfully registered and dialed using my voip.ms account (too late to actually connect and talk... will do so in the morning). Note that the option dialog actually shows both the cellular operator by name as well as my voip.ms username for selection rather than just the Nexus generic options.
Philio25 said:
I've been using the Moto X for a few days now and getting increasingly frustrated with it because Motorola have removed/changed features in their not so "Pure Android" build.
At this point I've already requested Motorola to arrange a return.
My main gripes are 2 features that I used daily:
1. They appear to have removed internet calling from the dialer, I can no longer receive calls on my business SIP line without third party software.
2. The equaliser doesn't work with bluetooth headphones. This device actually makes Beats Studio Wireless headphones sound tinny. I've tried a couple of the "top rated' EQ apps but the Moto X still sounds inferior to the Nexus 5.
Could anyone with Lollipop possibly confirm if either of these standard features on a Nexus device are available in Moto X Lollipop?
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Zenfone 2 Bloatware (not bad at all)

Guys i have being playing around with the phone for 3 or 4 days. My first impression as every one was WTF 4562398562389476 Bloatware apps installed. And i did remove all of them or disabled them. (im using original rom). I have also removed all the GAAPS, cleaner and all that stuff from the phone.
But it crossed from my mind why not to check ASSUS apps.
Splendid: This aps gives you full control of the display. You can enable blue light filter, vivid color mod, you can control hue and saturation, the temperature of the image also. its a very complete app and its not bad at all.
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SystemUpdate: There is not much to say there but with one click you can receive the OTA updates. Quick and easy (and works lol).
Themes: it does what it is. you can apply in a easy way new themes. it gives you the option too, you can share your creation with ASUS and they may include yours into this.
Weather: As it says the name this is an app that shows the weather from were you are its very complete and its stylish. also has a good looking widget.
MiniMovie This app is for making videos "presentations" from photos that you have on your phone. you can add text music. is easy its not bad at all. i do not use this kind of apps but i may stat using it . also when you finish editing you can share to whats up, or upload into youtube, etc.
Music: This app is the music players it has nothing special it does what is expected not bad at all. also has an option that you can connect to cloud storages to listen your music.
MyAsus Its an app that let you connect to asus and open tickets to them ask questions etc. also you can access zen forum. there is not much interesting here more than you can open support tickets to them. i did open asking for update 5.1.1 and it took like 2 days to reply but they did. Also they send you news like the IFA event form today.
Pc link: This application lets you mirror the screen from the phone into your windows desktop. its not bad at all. there you can controll all your phone, also take snapshot, make videos , etc. its not bad at all.
Photo Collage: This apps let you make Collage with taken photos, or downloaded ones. its easy and quick not bad at all. lots of options. you can modify the colage how is made. add text effects colors etc. when you save you can share through watsapp or any app.
Power Saver: This app lets you configure may aspects of battery consumptions. also let syou set battery modes .
FlashLight: This app turns on your led to use it as a flashlight also you can turn on the display for more light. SOS message and some other thinks . this app is not very good it does drains your battery if you turn off the LED and you left the app opened. so close the app when you stop using it. There is not need all this options we only want turn on the led to use the celphone as a flashlight.
FM RADIO: I have not tested due i did not connected a head phone yet. but it should be good.
Kids Mode: I have not used it but its good one. you can configure the phone to have only some apps that kids can use.
Asus Mobile Manager: I have mixed feelins with this app. it does make some short cuts to the ui or other apps. but what can you do there is. you can configure not to start apps when the celphone boots. also you can make applications not to send notifications. You can clean the memory from apps loaded. And go to the Battery saver app.
Audio Wizard Basically you can select music modes presets
Auto Start Manager: This app is shown inside Asus Mobile Manager. it lets you block apps to start when the celphone boots.
Camera: This is the camera app there are lots of review. it has tons of options its very good.
Asus Cover: This app lets you configure the Flip cover when its installed on the phone. i dont have one so there its not much to do here.
Email: Im very happy with this app i have connected to Outlook server and it works grate it has tons of options very complete. Probably it is not the best but its ok for most users.
Calendar: tis a calendar its very good also. i have synchronized to outlook sever works perfect tons of options to configure.
Regarding the ASUS IU. its great its fluid and you can tweak all aspects from the interface. you can modify fonts, effects, colors etc. it may be not as complet as nova or similar launchers. but for most of us the job is well done.
There are some others apps that i still have disabled. like:
Mirror:(its enable the front camera (selfie))
Remote link: allows you control your pc from the cellphone. (this is not bad at all if you need it)
Party link: i think it was like an app to share contact in a party but the other person should have the app installed also. The idea is not bad but too complicated to send a contact.
ShareLink: Dont remeber waht was this.
SuperNote: An app to do notes. im using other so i don´t have any opinion on this. But should not be bad at all.
WhatsNext: its like shows you what you have to do next in your calendar. its like a shot cut to your schedule.
ZenCircle and ZenTalk don´know like something "SOCIAL"
Giving a thought what i can say of ASUS apps. they are not bad at all i was expecting very bad apps. and they are being updated so it may be good to give them a try. they are balanced for productivity and leasure. they are quick and elegant. what i can say thumbs up for almost all of them
i cant deny they are A LOT.

Most of the bloatware can be disabled now. On previous versions of the firmware, this could not be achieved without rooting. That being said, its hard to deny that a select few of the Asus apps are actually quite useful and designed well for use.
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Also I included this thread in the device index as a guide for the stock apps function: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/index-asus-zenfone-2-wip-t3149748

cmendonc2 said:
Most of the bloatware can be disabled now. On previous versions of the firmware, this could not be achieved without rooting. That being said, its hard to deny that a select few of the Asus apps are actually quite useful and designed well for use.
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Also I included this thread in the device index as a guide for the stock apps function: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/index-asus-zenfone-2-wip-t3149748
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i was not aware. good to know they are making things better. we need to wait 5.1.1 update to have better battery performance.

There is not even an iota of doubt that they are making things better but they should have released 5.1 now. its getting late every single day

PhotoCollage and Minimovie and flashlight are excellent aps. The others i don't use.

Let 5.1 come first and then you'll get real performance cause 5.0 supports only 32 bit unlike 5.1, it supports 64 bit too and memory bug leak is mind **** on 5.0

I actually like Splendid. Wish I could download it for my other devices such as my shield tablet.
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I did disable 23 apps. Wish I could disable asus web storage

Yeah, PC Link is pretty cool. Love the mirroring. Thanks for your post!

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I did disable 23 apps. Wish I could disable asus web storage
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The version that I have it is not installed. I have installed my self to get free 5th of.storage.
Probably can be uninstall our disable

tatubias said:
The version that I have it is not installed. I have installed my self to get free 5th of.storage.
Probably can be uninstall our disable
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LOL, I dont want that storage but It can't be disabled or uninstalled I guess

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LOL, I dont want that storage but It can't be disabled or uninstalled I guess
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That's odd I can uninstall the app. Do you have the latest firmware instaled? I have ww version

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That's odd I can uninstall the app. Do you have the latest firmware instaled? I have ww version
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yes I've latest firmware with WW version, I'm having one problem more. Does 2g work on second sim?

Well, agree that some of them are good - I like Splendid and Picture Collage, the camera app is good, and the PC Link suite are good. But the calendar is basically the same as Google one but much uglier. Mail app I prefered the ASUS one to Gmail, but why both preinstalled? Waste of space - shouldn't bother with Gmail one, those who want it can get from playstore. The Supernote app is awful - the finger writing function is just plain useless. Party Link is pointless. The torch app is OTT - a simple quick settings toggle would suffice. Live water - waste of space. Browser - why? It has Chrome, surely most people use that? I suppose some of the apps that duplicate Google app functions are needed for the CN sku, but we don't need them on WW models. I could go on, but I won't. Basically, I just wish they had put in only the core apps and then an ASUS Apps Hub app that introduces extra apps you could choose to get from the playstore according to your need.

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I've noticed that these things are becoming popular and I thought why not make one for my Android head unit?
(I have Intel Sofila 3GR variant)
After doing some research in Computer Vision and hacking UIServer app, I'm happy to announce that it works
You can see a live demo in my youtube channel - https://youtu.be/bRYOB4MqHmo
The solution is software only:
1. it uses a computer vision algorithm that I've created that changes the perspective of the rear camera to top view.
2. A simple, analog, 480TVL video camera is enough for this algorithm! which means no hardware mods are needed!
3. An initial calibration process per camera per car is needed (usually takes 5-10 minutes)
4. In addition to the top, 360 view, it also undistorts fisheye lens!
It translates rear camera view:
into top camera view, with a memory of previously seen space:
Hope to release the app when it will be steady enough.
Until then, I've ordered a PX5 CPU based Android for better performance.

Looks promising!

Not bad. Keep going and updating.

thanks!
I've did some retouches, now it looks even better - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzpn0ROKkX8

What's the CPU load like when that's running ? I presume you have added the usual heatsinks & fan to your Joying ?

All original hardware, no extra heatsinks (its 20-5 Celsius out here right now).
It runs 2 threads at full speed so it takes like 50% cpu load (100% for each thread that runs on an individual core).

Holy f**k this looks amazing. I would love to try it out (got a joying PX5 unit).

This is awesome ! Any release soon ? even if it's beta

You will have the self driving car manufacturers paying you billions for this soon ?

can't wait to try this!

any updates on this?

I have "Joying SC9853i",
would be nice to try this app !!
hope you will release it for Joying SC9853i !!

Hi, sorry for not updating for a while, it's not easy to find free nights for that project.
I've stabilized the code a bit but it still isn't good enough for releasing it - it jerks when reversing too fast and my analog backup camera has a very poor and noisy quality which doesn't help either.
Another issue I'm facing is that in order to listen to reverse gear interrupt I have to do dedicated reverse engineering for each model which isn't trivial.
What I do have and will update soon is more videos, I've added a feature for recording the top view perspective. It does work perfectly in many scenarios and even OFF ROAD! which is very cool!

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Hi, sorry for not updating for a while, it's not easy to find free nights for that project.
I've stabilized the code a bit but it still isn't good enough for releasing it - it jerks when reversing too fast and my analog backup camera has a very poor and noisy quality which doesn't help either.
Another issue I'm facing is that in order to listen to reverse gear interrupt I have to do dedicated reverse engineering for each model which isn't trivial.
What I do have and will update soon is more videos, I've added a feature for recording these cool top view perspective. It does work perfectly in many scenarios and even OFF ROAD! which is very cool!
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Is your joying active cooled? may help with the jerking.
Why listen for the reverse and not just use it as an app first, and listen for that intent later?
Can't wait to see those video's! subscribed to your youtube

pafo42 said:
Is your joying active cooled? may help with the jerking.
Why listen for the reverse and not just use it as an app first, and listen for that intent later?
Can't wait to see those video's! subscribed to your youtube
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Thanks
1. I want it to be automatically - as soon as I hit reverse gear I want to see that top view (and that's what we have now ).
2. not only this interrupt needs special treatment per different MCU model, but also getting the video feed is not always trivial. Those Chinese manufacturers aren't using Android HALs as they should be using. That means - I can't just open an android Camera view and see the reverse camera (in Joying luckily it is like that, but in others like ALLWINNER its sucks, need to hack into some process and send it a proprietary IPC message)
3. I haven't modded it for cooling but it has some fan in there. I'm in a hot country (32 celsius easy) so it might worth a try because sometimes FPS is high and sometimes very low without any good reason.

ValkA said:
Thanks
1. I want it to be automatically - as soon as I hit reverse gear I want to see that top view (and that's what we have now ).
2. not only this interrupt needs special treatment per different MCU model, but also getting the video feed is not always trivial. Those Chinese manufacturers aren't using Android HALs as they should be using. That means - I can't just open an android Camera view and see the reverse camera (in Joying luckily it is like that, but in others like ALLWINNER its sucks, need to hack into some process and send it a proprietary IPC message)
3. I haven't modded it for cooling but it has some fan in there. I'm in a hot country (32 celsius easy) so it might worth a try because sometimes FPS is high and sometimes very low without any good reason.
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2: I'm running this rom but can't see the reverse camera on my device unless I supply power to the "back" wire.. So I'm curious if it would work with mine.
3. I've got a joying single DIN and it just overheats on the regular (Dutch weather, so not that hot) and it thermal throttles a lot or just shuts off/boot loops because of it, and I've ordered a cooling kit online.. so it's likely

pafo42 said:
2: I'm running this rom but can't see the reverse camera on my device unless I supply power to the "back" wire.. So I'm curious if it would work with mine.
3. I've got a joying single DIN and it just overheats on the regular (Dutch weather, so not that hot) and it thermal throttles a lot or just shuts off/boot loops because of it, and I've ordered a cooling kit online.. so it's likely
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2. same on mine.

Truly a beautiful project !!
I hope you will soon be able to have a working version that you can share.
Thank's for your job!!

will this work on a PX5 dasaita unit?

dominicanodcora said:
will this work on a PX5 dasaita unit?
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Right now I'm ordering a PX5. I believe it will have superior performance