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4.2 Update- MAJOR Gaming Performance Increase

After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What are your thoughts people?

chaplinb said:
After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What ate your thoughts people?
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Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..

I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing

lol edit srry

Yeah you're probably right. But even on stock kernel, I wasn't getting the smoothness I am now
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styckx said:
Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..
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Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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Kaeladar said:
I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.

androidizen said:
Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.
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Screen is terrible. Text looks like crap.
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Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?

Yeah I am aware that over-clocking rarely means performance increase. Its just fun to experiment sometimes and see for yourself
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It's slightly faster with some games, but I wouldn't call it major or anything.

steevp said:
Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?
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I got no performance improvement on Antutu, Egypt HD or Classic.

Neither did I. But I imagine those apps will soon receive an update to take advantage of 4.2?
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Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?

davidebanks said:
Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?
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I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.

harise100 said:
I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.
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each to their own, perhaps your attitude is why developers cant be bothered to make or optimise android games to their full potential. should my quad core S3 be running games as smoothly as the same game on the dual core iphone 5? yep. do they? nope. im pretty sure that the S3 is capable. poor optimization i suspect. as an example, i bet need for speed most wanted is smoother on iphone5 than the S3 version? likely running at 60 fps but with the same graphics, same with Nova 3? FIFA 12? list goes on.
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i wish i had 4.2...
and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance

PenguinDroid said:
and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance
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thats what people keep saying but .if you have two copies of the same game one running at 24fps and the other running at 60fps and have them side by side. then you can easily tell the difference. Also JB, project Butter allows the UI to Run at 60fps, as they say, buttery smooth. if a person could not have be able to tell the difference between 24fps and 60 fps then why did they bother with project butter? there is a huge difference between the smothness of jelly bean compared to Gingerbread, or even ICS on some of the phones which cant quite handle ICS. thats why I want the games to run at 60fps...we have the technology and power with android now......

Thermal Throttling... Let's talk about it

Please, after reading my post, don't blame me or suggest things like "mobile devices aren't meant to play or aren't meant to replace pc", I'm not looking for surrender, I'm looking for advices or proposals.
Several times I've noticed Thermal Throttling (from now TT ) effects on our device, because during high-resource-demanding apps, for example Real Racing 3 (but everyone can have his own high-resource-demanding app example), TT decreases cpu frequencies (maybe gpu too?) when it reaches a certain temperature, causing framerate drop. With cool-phone RR3 has superb framerate, but when phone becomes hot (after 6-7 minutes), there's a noticeable framerate drop caused by TT. You can notice this just by watching at asphalt flow under the car or how trees move in the environment.
This is normal, TT is normal and good beacuse it prevents high-temp damage, "but" I think that LG (or qualcomm or android) has implemented this function in a wrong way, not optimal. If this effect is so significant, it means that cpu frequencies cut is too much! I think it cuts in "half" cpu frequency, but it's a very conservative behaviuor, it's too much! If we consider another device, for example 4-cores clocked at 1,2 GHz, this device won't have 50 fps as G2 (in first minutes), maybe it will have 40 fps all the time, but it won't throttle down; G2 instead will throttle down and framerate will drop to 25 fps, which is not optimal, until it will cool (when stop playing, because it won't cool during playing). If these two devices were two cars, slower car would be the fastest because it will be constant and have best lap times.
First of all, there's a "normal" hardware problem that involves cooling and this problem can't be faced. But it's a software problem too, in the way TT is tuned; TT setting is what we shall deal with.
How can we achive this? There are several ideas:
1) Reading through forums I read about two possibile secret menu settings (3845#*802# ... 802 is phone model):
a) Thermal mitigation daemon off: this value should affect screen light dimming to lower temp, but it's not something that can slow down fps;
I tried it but my phone rebooted after 5 minutes playing and went into bootloop...
b) High temperature priority off: this value should affect TT temperature start treshold, for example increasing it from 60°C to 70°C, that is still a safe (internal) temp; I noticed a decreased TT effect, but it doesn't disappear. It simply happens after more time (for example after 10 minutes instead of 5). It's not a ultimate solution;
2a) Lowering max cpu freq to a value that prevents reaching TT treshold; but it depends also on environment temp, we should make too much tries; can someone say what max cpu freq to set? Obviously not to low... if 1.8 GHz it's good, if 1.4 GHz it will be better sell G2 and buy a less hardware performant nexus 4, but in real life better in performance than G2 because N4 can be less affected by TT;
2b) Lowering voltages, same as 2a), it's very difficult and we won't be sure to solve the problem;
3) There are several system files ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472318&page=43 ) that can be involved in TT tuning... Very difficult to achieve...
4) If TT can be tuned by kernel, a custom kernel with better TT tuning... hoping in a dev. (I think this would be the best solution).
What do you think about?

titomax82 said:
4) If TT can be tuned by kernel, a custom kernel with better TT tuning... hoping in a dev. (I think this would be the best solution).
What do you think about?
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That you did not do your research? I am not sure where you are headed at, but check our this DEV for example.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725023

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That you did not do your research? I am not sure where you are headed at, but check our this DEV for example.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2725023
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Do you mean this "Support Inteli CPU Temp control (by @faux123)" in "whats inside"? Is this what I'm looking for in 4)?

titomax82 said:
Do you mean this "Support Inteli CPU Temp control (by @faux123)" in "whats inside"? Is this what I'm looking for in 4)?
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You have to test. But almost all custom kernels are pretty much tweakable to your loving. Anyway depends on which device and Android version you are. Check carefully that you are not with a brick in the end.
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You have to test. But almost all custom kernels are pretty much tweakable to your loving. Anyway depends on which device and Android version you are. Check carefully that you are not with a brick in the end.
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I'm not expert in tweaking...

Well all I'm gonna say is I'm a huge gamer, I own multiple consoles and am into pc gaming and I've been doing some gaming on my g2 and here is a list of games I play gta 3/San Andreas, dungeon Hunter and I play psp games and most demanding of all I play dolphin emulator (GameCube games) and out of all the them the only one I can't play for more than 35 mins is dolphin because it's too cpu intensive(after 40mins fps goes down and at about an hour the phone might reboot itself it's happened before) and my phone is all stock(because dorimanx kk kernel is not completely stable yet)
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XxZombiePikachu said:
Well all I'm gonna say is I'm a huge gamer, I own multiple consoles and am into pc gaming and I've been doing some gaming on my g2 and here is a list of games I play gta 3/San Andreas, dungeon Hunter and I play psp games and most demanding of all I play dolphin emulator (GameCube games) and out of all the them the only one I can't play for more than 35 mins is dolphin because it's too cpu intensive(after 40mins fps goes down and at about an hour the phone might reboot itself it's happened before) and my phone is all stock(because dorimanx kk kernel is not completely stable yet)
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I tried 2 kernels:
1) Dorimanx 4.4: too much options to set... with default installation G2 is slower in antutu and in gaming...
2) Simple Kernel V5 (No Oc version): wonderful with default installation, phone becomes a little bit hotter than custom kernel, but no TT! Very Good! Also, I can revert "High Temperature Priority OFF" to its default setting (OFF): phone becomes slightly cooler and TT becomes barely noticeable. TT can be still considered solved, with temperature and battery benefits.

Terrible Gaming Performance..is my Hardware broken ?

Hey i got my G6 some days ago and love it but the gaming performance is ****ing bad. I got a Score of 1920 on Slingshot Extreme but i cant run games that worked great on my honor 8 with just a score of 800. For example Castle Clash . Low grafic game but it lags in fights. Do you guys have the same problems or is my g6 broken ?

civicus said:
Hey i got my G6 some days ago and love it but the gaming performance is ****ing bad. I got a Score of 1920 on Slingshot Extreme but i cant run games that worked great on my honor 8 with just a score of 800. For example Castle Clash . Low grafic game but it lags in fights. Do you guys have the same problems or is my g6 broken ?
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Played: PoGO, Star Tap, Tap Titans 2, Summoner Wars and FE: Heroes, no problem of lagging.
Only game with problem is DB: Dokkan Battle, but it's seems a more app-related problem of optimizazion.
Check if in the game settings there is something related to performance and graphic, if not it could be a bad optimization, the fact that on benchmark it scores good shows that there is no hardware problem

Killua96 said:
Played: PoGO, Star Tap, Tap Titans 2, Summoner Wars and FE: Heroes, no problem of lagging.
Only game with problem is DB: Dokkan Battle, but it's seems a more app-related problem of optimizazion.
Check if in the game settings there is something related to performance and graphic, if not it could be a bad optimization, the fact that on benchmark it scores good shows that there is no hardware problem
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i played sw too. will install it again and try it. did you run a benchmark one time ? im very confused that it shows a different score every time. sometimes over 2000. sometimes just 1600.

civicus said:
i played sw too. will install it again and try it. did you run a benchmark one time ? im very confused that it shows a different score every time. sometimes over 2000. sometimes just 1600.
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It's normal, it's throttling because of the temperature rising, if you run benchmarks one after another the score will decrease in any device.
I'll run Slingshot extrem too a couple of times, downloading it now, i'll let you know the results

Killua96 said:
It's normal, it's throttling because of the temperature rising, if you run benchmarks one after another the score will decrease in any device.
I'll run Slingshot extrem too a couple of times, downloading it now, i'll let you know the results
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thanks bud :good:

Have you turned off 'Battery saving for games' in the battery-settings? Maybe that will help.

Chopthewood said:
Have you turned off 'Battery saving for games' in the battery-settings? Maybe that will help.
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yep turned it off. also lowered resolution and frame rate of the game in battery setting from high to low but no effect

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thanks bud :good:
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No problem.
Results are: 1964 (first), 1711 (second).
In par with yours :good:

Killua96 said:
No problem.
Results are: 1964 (first), 1711 (second).
In par with yours :good:
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How was your gaming performance after you ran those 2 benchmarks?

tiguy99 said:
How was your gaming performance after you ran those 2 benchmarks?
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Didn't tried.

is this still up? i have a question. how about on rules of survival i have experiencing lagging with a excellent settings even in balance mode. with a high FPS. any one here trying the ROS?

Sluggish performance on GPU intensive games?

Just wondering if this is common or not, mainly PUBG runs sluggish even on the lowest graphics setting.

Isopropil said:
Just wondering if this is common or not, mainly PUBG runs sluggish even on the lowest graphics setting.
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maybe because of the 2k?
I also tried pubg and yes, it's too damn laggy. lowering the resolution to 720p didn't help much. i guess i have to see how it runs on another device to be sure it's not a crappy app (Even though it looks like it)

I though the same thing, wish there was a easy way of lowering like on Samsung roms.

Isopropil said:
I though the same thing, wish there was a easy way of lowering like on Samsung roms.
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if you're willing to use the navbar (or mipop if you're on stock), it's as simple as making a couple of shell scripts that change density and resolution, then adding widgets for them. Since probably nobody is looking at the capacitive buttons bug this will probably be the only way to do it

The main problem for gpu intensive games is that they start to lag more the longer u play. Its because (at least on stock roms) the kernel throttles the cpu and gpu way too aggressively at a certain temperature. Same happens to hearthstone.
At beginning i can play a few rounds with 40-60fps, but after some time the kernel throttles the cpu and gpu down by alot even though the device itself only just got a bit warm. Main issue is throttling happens way too soon by way too much. And well some games are not well optimized and dont clear graphic cache often enough. Hearthstone for example has this issue, even if device is cooled, the game drops fps (not as much as with throttling tho) if too many graphical stuff loaded into the graphical ram over time (at least thats how i think it is)
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GodOfPsychos said:
. And well some games are not well optimized and dont clear graphic cache often enough. Hearthstone for example has this issue, even if device is cooled, the game drops fps (not as much as with throttling tho) if too many graphical stuff loaded into the graphical ram over time (at least thats how i think it is)
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I play PUBG on stock ROM after basically disabling CPU GPU thermal throttling and adjusting the governors to use the full frequency range accordingly. Having a fan of any sort, even a small usb powered one blowing air on the back up to a meter will keep the battery under around 50degC. The aluminum unibody cools effectively and efficiently with the help of a fan. I use a Tasker task to change the CPU limits and other optimizations before playing.
After eliminating the processor bottleneck the game can run on high settings smoothly. However the game uses 1GB of RAM on high settings that I've tested and the device lags under around 500Mb of free RAM on stock's OOM configuration. So free RAM needs to be able to reach at least 1.5Gb to not cause slow downs. Having already debloated and using greenify with and root commands to disable background user processes, I can play without RAM being an issue. I monitor free RAM and other hardware in real time to check these function without issue.
Having now removed both those bottlenecks I found there's still some lag that can develop after the phone has been playing for a few games or after standby overnight uptime. I've only just started testing changes to Virtual Memory thinking it might be a delay caused there. But the post quote above gave me the thought it could be GPU video memory related. Anyone know where to check in the kernel for how much RAM is reserved for GPU on the Axon 7?
I also gave the resolution lowering trick a little try and that didn't seem to improve performance at all. I'm still on B32.
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Mind explaining how to get rid of the CPU/GPU throttle? I just haven't bothered with those kind of things since my Galaxy Nexus days ;_;

Isopropil said:
Mind explaining how to get rid of the CPU/GPU throttle? I just haven't bothered with those kind of things since my Galaxy Nexus days ;_;
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The background I posted ages ago is here https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/stock-cpu-gpu-throttling-performance-t3716060
That way doesn't fully disable throttling and just enables a different higher one. I could update the thread if people are interested
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Infy_AsiX said:
The background I posted ages ago is here https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/stock-cpu-gpu-throttling-performance-t3716060
That doesn't fully disable throttling and just enables a different higher one. I could update the thread if people are interested.
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Tbh thats quite an interesting thread for ppl that have either heating issues and want to lower voltages and edit throttling levels or for ppl that would like to have a more consistent performance when gaming. As you mentioned in that thread, i too renamed the 2 thermal config files with .bak at the end. Will test later to see the results.
But i think you could maybe update the thread with a guide for like:
-ppl that want to preserve battery life
-ppl that want to get more consistent performance
-and ppl that want to have a good mix between performance and battery life.
Also in that thread you mentioned disabling vdd restriction (like through kernel adiutor i guess). Is this necessary to really see the full effect of renaming the thermal engine files to .bak? I ask because i saw that inside the thermal engine files, there are also entries for vdd monitoring. So in the end would disabling vdd restriction actually do something? (Since the values from thermal engine files won't be applied at boot anymore after renaming them)
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I get some lag even in Angry Birds 2, never had this on my Sony Xperia XZ Premium. The reason is due to throttling from over heating.
The phone does indeed get hot after some heavy gaming and this is when throttling starts and causing some lag.

GodOfPsychos said:
Tbh thats quite an interesting thread for ppl that have either heating issues and want to lower voltages and edit throttling levels or for ppl that would like to have a more consistent performance when gaming. As you mentioned in that thread, i too renamed the 2 thermal config files with .bak at the end. Will test later to see the results.
But i think you could maybe update the thread with a guide for like:
-ppl that want to preserve battery life
-ppl that want to get more consistent performance
-and ppl that want to have a good mix between performance and battery life.
Also in that thread you mentioned disabling vdd restriction (like through kernel adiutor i guess). Is this necessary to really see the full effect of renaming the thermal engine files to .bak? I ask because i saw that inside the thermal engine files, there are also entries for vdd monitoring. So in the end would disabling vdd restriction actually do something? (Since the values from thermal engine files won't be applied at boot anymore after renaming them)
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That's some useful suggestions. For each point
- I've already shared that function. Just modify to a lower voltage you prefer. In terms of using it in combo with throttling disabled, that can be more advanced.
- Consistent like powerful? Need to tweak values in the file for full performance. Personally I've edited several profiles of various CPU GPU configs to range from light games to heavy executable from Tasker.
- Really a matter of preference. There isn't really a perfect middle ground. That's why vendors are offering power mode switches for normal use and gaming. Problem there is ZTE's is shipped broken and others still have decided limits. Which as my previous point, I use a basic profile for normal use and switch to suit based on the gaming demand. The method in that thread alone is inefficient as it's moderately powerful but isn't power saving for example.
Yeah I meant in a kernel configuration app like Adiutor. It's rather confusing but IIRC switching on VDD is it's own set of restriction different than unmodified. Removing the files by renaming .bak falls back to some hidden profile as described in that thread. Now I just edit the file for no limits instead and use Tasker to change parameters when needed.
I may post a guide. But I'm not sure how much interest or benefit there is. Hardcore tweakers aren't on stock, it's probably only a small group that prefer stock for particular reasons and are still advanced tweakers. One factor against AOSP though is I've heard repeatedly in the past the GPU driver gaming performance is lacking, don't know if that has changed. I'm all for helping out though, just unsure about useless effort. I welcome questions to get anything working and it's more direct than writing up a whole guide.
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Infy_AsiX said:
That's some useful suggestions. For each point
- I've already shared that function. Just modify to a lower voltage you prefer. In terms of using it in combo with throttling disabled, that can be more advanced.
- Consistent like powerful? Need to tweak values in the file for full performance. Personally I've edited several profiles of various CPU GPU configs to range from light games to heavy executable from Tasker.
- Really a matter of preference. There isn't really a perfect middle ground. That's why vendors are offering power mode switches for normal use and gaming. Problem there is ZTE's is shipped broken and others still have decided limits. Which as my previous point, I use a basic profile for normal use and switch to suit based on the gaming demand. The method in that thread alone is inefficient as it's moderately powerful but isn't power saving for example.
Yeah I meant in a kernel configuration app like Adiutor. It's rather confusing but IIRC switching on VDD is it's own set of restriction different than unmodified. Removing the files by renaming .bak falls back to some hidden profile as described in that thread. Now I just edit the file for no limits instead and use Tasker to change parameters when needed.
I may post a guide. But I'm not sure how much interest or benefit there is. Hardcore tweakers aren't on stock, it's probably only a small group that prefer stock for particular reasons and are still advanced tweakers. One factor against AOSP though is I've heard repeatedly in the past the GPU driver gaming performance is lacking, don't know if that has changed. I'm all for helping out though, just unsure about useless effort. I welcome questions to get anything working and it's more direct than writing up a whole guide.
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Well a guide might be useful for many users. Maybe also what your setup in tasker is.
Personally im usually not that into graphic intensive mobile games (except for like shadowgun legends, cool game imo).
I mean i play games while watching youtube or any series sometimes. But its still annoying when games start to lag after like 10 minutes already.
I also play hearthstone alot on my axon 7 since i used to play it alot on my laptop (sadly the game lags way too much now on my laptop due to weak hardware, hence why i play it on mobile now).
About the consistent performance i mentioned earlier, yes i meant as in powerful which keeps the performance without dropping down.
Sadly the performance governor isnt a big help since the aggressive throttling is still active, which makes the governor quite useless if it cant keep up the cpu clock at max.
Anyway, from what i noticed after renaming the 2 thermal files, shadowgun legends for example runs better for a longer period of time than before (it takes longer before the game starts to drop frames significantly)
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With most GPU intensive apps and games like PUBG and Daydream View, I have to disable the Night Light. It provides a noticeable difference in performance.

@ Isopropil,
Hi,
Would you like to post your screenshot here? I experience the same problem and we probably help each other. My phone is A2017U, what about yours?
Thanks in advance！
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Please help PUBG lag's very much

Hello i have a redmi note 7 3/32 model.When i play pubg even on low settings i.e smooth/high it lags very much.Phone heats very much.Tried disabling battery saver for pubg with no restriction but still lags very much.It had sd660 thats the reason bought it but it is really very disappointing.i had tried every combination of graphics settings but its the same.Phone heats after 15 min and then lag starts.
Should i install a custom rom? If yes then which rom will be best for pubg?
Or
Should i downgrade to miui 10 version ?
Please help..
Thanks in advance.

Do you have fps set to high? Change it to med or low.

kennyk09 said:
Do you have fps set to high? Change it to med or low.
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Thanks for reply
But sd660 can handle high fps in pubg.I have seen other mobile ex.Asus max pro m2.which can handle pubg very smoothly.Cant find what the real issue is

ChandrakantBelell said:
Thanks for reply
But sd660 can handle high fps in pubg.I have seen other mobile ex.Asus max pro m2.which can handle pubg very smoothly.Cant find what the real issue is
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Can handle high fps, yes.
Can still create much heat and use much battery, also yes. Thus lower fps to keep it less warm. Try it yourself and see the difference.

Add all unnecessary apps/games in memory exceptions within game booster app. Also disable ingame shortcut and enable bandwidth priority.
In pubg I have fps set to high and graphic to smooth.
I find these settings work the best on my phone for game performance and less heat too.

kennyk09 said:
enable bandwidth priority.
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How to do this btw?

Inside game speed booster settings.
And of course you need to add pubg to this app too.
I set pubg to restrict battery in MIUI setting FYI. It has no effect on game play.

kennyk09 said:
Inside game speed booster settings.
And of course you need to add pubg to this app too.
I set pubg to restrict battery in MIUI setting FYI. It has no effect on game play.
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I had done everything but still it lags when played even on smooth and low/medium settings.

Try running a few benchmarks to see if everything is right, like Antutu, 3dmark etc and compare the scores to others RN7.
If not, try resetting your phone.

yeah mine too , i can play pubg on my mi max 3 with no laggs in the same setting but with this redmi note 7 will laggs from time to times , it supposed to be better than sd636 in my mi max 3.

Gonime said:
Try running a few benchmarks to see if everything is right, like Antutu, 3dmark etc and compare the scores to others RN7.
If not, try resetting your phone.
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All the benchmark scores seems to be normal.Will reset today hope will get better performance
Thanks for reply

I have try antutu benchmark and the result is very far from ranking redmi note 7 list at there. My device at 51. How to raise up the performance?

ChandrakantBelell said:
All the benchmark scores seems to be normal.Will reset today hope will get better performance
Thanks for reply
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Reset will do almost nothing. It does only in short term. Longterm it will lags again. Just like you reboot ur phone and cleaning cache, etc...
The main cause is, miui thermal and stock kernel restirct cpu frequency too 'agressively'. When our device start to heat, thermal will restrict -half of- our cpu to only use max freq for bigcluster 1,7Ghz & littlecluster 1,4Ghz and downclock soo oftenly. So, lags will occurs.
Reason behind is good actually to "save" the phone and decrease heat. But, when it comes for gaming (my opinion) Its NO USE at all. It Just ruins the gameplay.
Sad thing..., xiaomi like do nothin :'( its been a couple stable update and they are doing nothing to provide best gaming experience at least.

GueztStar said:
Reset will do almost nothing. It does only in short term. Longterm it will lags again. Just like you reboot ur phone and cleaning cache, etc...
The main cause is, miui thermal and stock kernel restirct cpu frequency too 'agressively'. When our device start to heat, thermal will restrict -half of- our cpu to only use max freq for bigcluster 1,7Ghz & littlecluster 1,4Ghz and downclock soo oftenly. So, lags will occurs.
Reason behind is good actually to "save" the phone and decrease heat. But, when it comes for gaming (my opinion) Its NO USE at all. It Just ruins the gameplay.
Sad thing..., xiaomi like do nothin :'( its been a couple stable update and they are doing nothing to provide best gaming experience at least.
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Yes you are right after reset again it starts to lag.
Can't we do anything for this mini thermal throttle?
I mean can we root and go for a custom rom Or anything like that to improve performance? I don't want any battery saver stuff.. Just want lag free gaming

ChandrakantBelell said:
Yes you are right after reset again it starts to lag.
Can't we do anything for this mini thermal throttle?
I mean can we root and go for a custom rom Or anything like that to improve performance? I don't want any battery saver stuff.. Just want lag free gaming
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Root method? Of course yes.
Flash recovery Orangefox R10 > Flash Magisk Root > Flash Thermal-Config Mod (its a magisk module) > Flash Custom Kernel (if you want, i recommend genom or evira). Done.
Now you will get best perfomance of our device should have.
*thermal-engine mod will disable cpu restriction
**custom kernel will increase battery and perfomance
You can go to custom rom too, it'll give you more :v
Head over development rom thread..

GueztStar said:
Reset will do almost nothing. It does only in short term. Longterm it will lags again. Just like you reboot ur phone and cleaning cache, etc...
The main cause is, miui thermal and stock kernel restirct cpu frequency too 'agressively'. When our device start to heat, thermal will restrict -half of- our cpu to only use max freq for bigcluster 1,7Ghz & littlecluster 1,4Ghz and downclock soo oftenly. So, lags will occurs.
Reason behind is good actually to "save" the phone and decrease heat. But, when it comes for gaming (my opinion) Its NO USE at all. It Just ruins the gameplay.
Sad thing..., xiaomi like do nothin :'( its been a couple stable update and they are doing nothing to provide best gaming experience at least.
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What if we disable MIUI optimization? Will it remove the restriction? Or the only choices are thermal mod?

Fritzkier said:
What if we disable MIUI optimization? Will it remove the restriction? Or the only choices are thermal mod?
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Disabling MIUI optimization will not remove kernel restrictions, you're better off flashing another kernel or using a thermal mod as recommended before.

GueztStar said:
Root method? Of course yes.
Flash recovery Orangefox R10 > Flash Magisk Root > Flash Thermal-Config Mod (its a magisk module) > Flash Custom Kernel (if you want, i recommend genom or evira). Done.
Now you will get best perfomance of our device should have.
*thermal-engine mod will disable cpu restriction
**custom kernel will increase battery and perfomance
You can go to custom rom too, it'll give you more :v
Head over development rom thread..
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Thankyou very much for the reply.I will definitely root my note 7 and install everything you said.Can you share the link of thermal-config mod? and evira kernal? please that would be very helpful .

ChandrakantBelell said:
Thankyou very much for the reply.I will definitely root my note 7 and install everything you said.Can you share the link of thermal-config mod? and evira kernal? please that would be very helpful .
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re.../official-orangefox-recovery-project-t3941822
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7/development/evira-kernel-redminote-7-t3919265
Coudn't find the thermal-mod link, maybe it has to do with editing the kernel.

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https://forum.xda-developers.com/re.../official-orangefox-recovery-project-t3941822
https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-7/development/evira-kernel-redminote-7-t3919265
Coudn't find the thermal-mod link, maybe it has to do with editing the kernel.
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yes i also didnt find the thermal-mod link
but thanku very much for the help