Contrast (true blacks) - Xiaomi Mi 8 Real Life Review

How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Xiaomi Mi 8's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
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Is it just my phone or are the blacks not as dark/deep as what an AMOLED screen should be? If i turn on the "hide notch" option the area is still much lighter than the notch itself. I can clearly still see where the notch is. The blacks are dark but not samsung AMOLED dark (pitch black).

Pixels are off, as black as it can be. You can see "something" because you have a physical notch. You don't see pixels light up, because they are off.

Hello everyone.
I'm very interested in this device and I want to buy it very soon, so I have a simple question I hope it will be answered.
The most interesting thing -to me- about phone is the screen. I want a phone with Super AMOLED screen and they say that the screen of this phone is the same, but the "lab tests of GSMArena" show that the black color has a value of (0.002 cd/m²) when the brightness of the screen is in "max auto".
It's known that Super AMOLEDs turn off the pixels that are responsible for displaying the black color, and these pixels are supposed to remain off regardless of the brightness level of the screen. So,if the screen is Super AMOLED, how did this value appear?!!
I know it is a very small and undetectable value, but it indicates that the pixels are not turned off -Am I wrong ??-.
Is it conceivable that the screen is not Super AMOLED,or did I miss something?
Knowing that all Samsung phones with AMOLED screens, even the cheapest ones, have the value (0.000 cd/m²) for the black color.
I am very sorry to prolong my question and I hope that someone will answer me.
Thanks in advance.

A7.Rtb said:
Hello everyone.
I'm very interested in this device and I want to buy it very soon, so I have a simple question I hope it will be answered.
The most interesting thing -to me- about phone is the screen. I want a phone with Super AMOLED screen and they say that the screen of this phone is the same, but the "lab tests of GSMArena" show that the black color has a value of (0.002 cd/m²) when the brightness of the screen is in "max auto".
It's known that Super AMOLEDs turn off the pixels that are responsible for displaying the black color, and these pixels are supposed to remain off regardless of the brightness level of the screen. So,if the screen is Super AMOLED, how did this value appear?!!
I know it is a very small and undetectable value, but it indicates that the pixels are not turned off -Am I wrong ??-.
Is it conceivable that the screen is not Super AMOLED,or did I miss something?
Knowing that all Samsung phones with AMOLED screens, even the cheapest ones, have the value (0.000 cd/m²) for the black color.
I am very sorry to prolong my question and I hope that someone will answer me.
Thanks in advance.
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The amoled on Mi 8 is made by samsung so.... Frankly speaking these tests are probably not very accurate, imagine this, 0.002, literally just a tiny bit of sunlight and any tests they conduct will show a value other than 0.000. I am pretty sure the equipment they use to test (GSMarena) is not used under a controlled situation. I would take these tests at face value because most equipments have an error of 0.005+-

Mine looks really good.

achickennugget said:
The amoled on Mi 8 is made by samsung so.... Frankly speaking these tests are probably not very accurate, imagine this, 0.002, literally just a tiny bit of sunlight and any tests they conduct will show a value other than 0.000. I am pretty sure the equipment they use to test (GSMarena) is not used under a controlled situation. I would take these tests at face value because most equipments have an error of 0.005+-
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Thank you for answering my question.
So, you say that the GSMArena tests may be faulty, and that the Mi 8 screen is made by Samsung, Which means it is exactly the same quality as the screens of Samsung phones themselves. Well, that's something reassuring. Thanks for explaining this to me

A7.Rtb said:
Thank you for answering my question.
So, you say that the GSMArena tests may be faulty, and that the Mi 8 screen is made by Samsung, Which means it is exactly the same quality as the screens of Samsung phones themselves. Well, that's something reassuring. Thanks for explaining this to me
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I am not saying that the tests are faulty, it is just that the accuracy when you are talking about it at the scale of 0.0002, is not something that u can obtain accurately with the testing methodology by gsmarena, it must be conducted in lab environment where it is controlled to conclusively claim the value at that level of precision

achickennugget said:
I am not saying that the tests are faulty, it is just that the accuracy when you are talking about it at the scale of 0.0002, is not something that u can obtain accurately with the testing methodology by gsmarena, it must be conducted in lab environment where it is controlled to conclusively claim the value at that level of precision
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Ok, thank you for making it clear to me, bro

just go in a complete dark room and look at the display. Best is to look at a complete dark photo or jpg file. That's the best test.

The screen makes me smile

Screen works fine, dont read the GSMArena
I've this phone and its ok. Black is off, its OLED...

With dim screen in a dark environment I can see a pretty bad black smear effect, however I guess it is a common oled problem plus it's not really visible with some brightness

Problem with old amoled screen was the delay between pixel off and pixel on. So to avoid this delay, a solution can be to let the pixel on but with very low intensity instead of switching it off. Maybe that's why pixels on mi8 aren't swich off..

IoIam said:
With dim screen in a dark environment I can see a pretty bad black smear effect, however I guess it is a common oled problem plus it's not really visible with some brightness
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Its normal for OLED.

galakty said:
Its normal for OLED.
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Well not really, I mean I guess it is common but I did not have this problem on my S3 and on my mother's s8 plus, although I've seen it on her S4.

While contrast en true blacks are good, it does seem to smear a lot more on low brightness scrolling than other phones with OLED I've seen/had.

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Purplish Tint?

I noticed that when I turn my brightness down my phone gets a purplish tint but it goes away as the brightness goes up. Is this because its special type of LED screen or the over saturation of colors?
can you post some pics please?
Normal for AMOLED screens. They tend to get a red tinge to them when they dim down.
staulkor said:
Normal for AMOLED screens. They tend to get a red tinge to them when they dim down.
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Alright I guess the technology isn't perfect yet definently not a deal breaker
I was wondering why the light grey look pink in gmail app
I see it as well. A little annoying, but not a giant problem. The blazing speed of the phone kinda makes up for it.
does anybody of you also noticed this thing: http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html ???
eug89 said:
does anybody of you also noticed this thing: http://www.nexusoneforum.net/forum/nexus-one-tech-issues-bug-reports/1199-amoled-display-issue.html ???
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I did notice this as well. Some of the red pixels on the edges of text seemed to have drifted a little too far from the body of the glyph. I actually thought the same thing as this poster - sounds like they need to tweak their "subpixel LCD text" algorithms to match the different layout of the OLED screen.
I'd add to his analysis that subpixel LCD text algorithms typicall employee adjustments for the non-linear response of the pixels (steps of brightness near the dim end of the scale are not the same perceived size as steps of brightness near the bright end of the scale) and OLED may not only have different non-linear response, but it may have different response in each of its R, G, and B pixel elements...
This all should be tweakable in software and is bound to be improved as OLED screens gain popularity.

Color saturation & accuracy

If you're colorblind, please disregard this thread. Rate this thread to express how you deem the color saturation and accuracy of the Samsung Galaxy Note 8's display. A higher rating indicates that you think that color accuracy is very high and saturation is excellent.
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1 star . My one is very yellow
Adaptive advanced red off green off blue max
And it is almost white
Might have to return ?
I have the unlocked version, I won't give it a number, but I feel the phone's screen is very good.
Menchelke said:
I have the unlocked version, I won't give it a number, but I feel the phone's screen is very good.
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Generally very pleased. But Basic mode on display still is very saturated . Also since when was warm a pink hue? Ive always led to believe warm is short wavelength that should exhibit a yellow hue which mine doesn't.
3 stars
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I would like to know the settings for best accuracy since I'd like to edit photos on this, I read the screen has an excellent accuracy but mine is pretty yellowish. Tried the basic mode but its absolutely lifeless and lacks contrast.
Hello. Home theater enthusiast here. Thought I would share my opinion as I have my own calibration tools (i1d3 with HCFR, Lightspace and DisplayCal, and eeColor boxes for 3D LUTs for 1080p and lower content (4K boxes are still too expensive IMO).
This is by far the best display I own. This thing is just as good as my LG E6 OLED... with a 3D LUT! I'd like to mention that the E6 and similar displays are deployed and used for critical grading of movies due to their accuracy and gamut coverage. Without a 3D LUT they're pretty crappy due to limited and buggy built-in calibration controls (you can only have part of the gamut accurate by sacrificing accuracy everywhere else. Skin tones, memory colors or a distributed error focusing on improving the 50-70% saturated colors, can only have one of these or none at all.
Sorry, getting off topic, back to the Note 8 display.
This is very important. DON'T USE ADAPTIVE MODE IF YOU WANT ACCURATE COLORS -OR- THE STANDARD D65 WHITE POINT COLOR TEMPERATURE.
Adaptive has a fairly aggressive boost to saturation. Also, the RGB slider controls are for controlling the SECOND saturation boost on top of what Adaptive has already boosted!
Adaptive/Cinema/Photo use a DCI-P3 in BT.2020 colorspace
Basic uses rec.709/sRGB colorspace.
All non-HDR content (movies, pictures, graphics) do not use this color space. The colors will not be converted properly (primaries and secondaries have an axis shift. Also, 50% saturation in sRGB/rec.709 (non-HDR movies) will be at a different location in the visible spectrum (i.e. not the same color). This is a notable difference if you can quickly do an A/B comparison.
Basic is the most accurate colorspace simply because it's rec.709/sRGB and that is what everything was made for. Use Cinema or Photo if you want/like the saturation boost that happens when viewing /rec.709/sRGB content with a DCI-P3 in bt.2020 colorspace.
HDR videos have embedded metadata (sort of like ID3 tags for music files) which will trigger the display to automatically change to the appropriate and totally separate color space that you can't choose in the display options. The reason for this is because HDR by spec needs each pixel of the screen to produce drastically higher luminance (nits). rec.709/sRGB generally reach up to around 300-400 nits at peak on a quality display while HDR has a defined peak of 10,000 nits by spec. No current display can reach this yet, most are around 2-5000 nits (OLEDs are in the 700-1800 range. See AVSForum for discussions about OLED vs LCD/Quantum dot/Projector HDR nit levels).
This prevents users from using HDR levels of luminance for extended periods of time. More nits needs more voltage, more volts means not only faster battery drainage, but also more heat is generated and shortens the life of each OLED subpixel as the organic compound ages (more voltage quickens aging).
Image BURN IN is caused when some OLED subpixels have aged faster than others near it. This IS permanent.
Image RETENTION is NOT permanent yet looks just like image burn in. This is from voltage that has built up and can no longer be contained in the components controlling each pixel. Simply discharge them by turning the screen OFF (As in power off. I think Always On Display keeps them primed and ready for use). You could also look at animated full screen color noise/static patterns. This would improve uniformity by fully charging the components for remaining pixels. (ex: The old and free ".js" file version of jscreenfix. Present version is web based and not full screen).
If you're worried about being blinded by the high HDR nits, don't be.
The intent of HDR is to NOT cap peak brightness and provide a fixed gamma transfer function (layman: How bright something is relative to your display's darkest possible black and brightest possible white).
To explain what I mean, let's say we have two identical displays with an impossible 100% for color accuracy. And let us assume we have a perfectly mixed movie for both SDR and HDR (alot of movies are only graded once from the source material and then that graded copy gets regraded for the other releases. Basically this is bad but most movie studios are either trying to save money or simply don't care unless it's a "blockbuster" movie....
So again, let's say he have a perfect SDR and HDR release.
Side by side they will be 90% identical. The "HDR" levels are ONLY for specular highlights, like light reflections water/chrome/etc, clouds, sparks and other generally small details. Having something at 10,000 kits that is only, let's say, ~30x30 pixels isn't going to appear blindingly bright but will appear brighter in relation to the pixels around it (which again is the whole point of HDR).
Now for the other three screen modes...
Despite what you think you're seeing, CINEMA/PHOTO/BASIC MODES ARE NOT "TOO RED". ADAPTIVE DOES HAS TOO MUCH BLUE.
Adaptive is default, and by the time you get to the display options your brain has already adapted to this colder color temperature and you perceive the change as having too much red.
Instead of trying to explain why this happens, look at THIS ILLUSION.
The biological and science mechanics at the core of this illusion is exactly why you should NEVER compare colors by sight alone, and this is basically what happens when switching back and forth between modes after adapting to one mode. The rods/cones on our retina are not digital and takes time for them to adapt to changes in stimulation to light entering your eyes.
It appears this way because most displays come from the factory with a cooler color temperature than the industry standard D65 white point. This makes displays look better on a showroom floor under all their fluorescent lights. Simply put, if you think it's "too red", it's because you're used to seeing something that's "too blue".
Actually use these other modes for a day or there about so you have put real hours into looking at the screen, not just a few minutes of the day. Then try switching back to your adaptive settings. You may be surprised to find your opinion to be different about the other modes being too red.
This doesn't mean you can't prefer adaptive mode's saturation boost and/or cooler warmer temperature (aka a more "blue" screen), nor am I criticizing anyone who does not use Basic.
I'm just presenting fact, and not my opinion, based on data in regards to accuracy.
Personally I use Cinema mode and only switch to Basic for drawing.
TL;DR:
Adaptive has terrible accuracy, doesn't have a D65 white/color temperature, uses an HDR colorspace for non-HDR content (this is bad), and two levels of built-in saturation boost (RGB slider controls effect only one of these boosts).
Straight from the factory basic has color accuracy rivaling even the best ISF calibrated displays with a 3D LUT, has D65 white/color temperature, and uses same SDR colorspace that non-HDR content was made with.
I've done my own measurements with my own calibration equipment, and my results support their findings. Not that I doubt their results, I mean DisplayMate is known in the Home Theatre scene for their technical articles. If you don't agree with them then do your own measurements to get factual data for comparison. Human eyes are lying sacks of crap (read: adaptive) and you can search AVSForum if you need explanations and/or proof of this.
Here is DisplayMate's shootout for anyone enterested.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note8_ShootOut_100.htm
Just turned my phone to basic. Looks a lot better now. No more super bright cartoons colours. It also makes the colours of my graphic design logos more accurate.
I've always used Basic mode in all my previous Samsung devices inc my tablet.
However, the basic mode on the N8 shows a pink hue which is not tolerable to my eyes. Now, if the basic mode showed a true warmer tone like a slight yellow hue it wouldn't be so bad.
Talking of which, I was always under the impression that the term "warm" in respect of display technology meant whites would appear somewhat yellower , not pink like this display. ?
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Isn't there an app to fully calibrate the screen?
Limeybastard said:
I've always used Basic mode in all my previous Samsung devices inc my tablet.
However, the basic mode on the N8 shows a pink hue which is not tolerable to my eyes. Now, if the basic mode showed a true warmer tone like a slight yellow hue it wouldn't be so bad.
Talking of which, I was always under the impression that the term "warm" in respect of display technology meant whites would appear somewhat yellower , not pink like this display. ?
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If you're trying to compare how the screen looks by your eyes alone, you're doing it wrong. Look at Illusion link in my long post.
How that illusion works is the best "short" version of explaining why you think Cinema/Photo/Basic looks pink.
If you really want to know if the screen is in fact too red, or too blue or even green, you need to use calibration equipment (colorimeter, spectrometer/spectroradiograph, and software; HCFR and DisplayCal are free, Light Illusion, CalMan, ChromaPure are expensive.
Getting your own gear is quite costly, but you might be able to rent it for half a day or so for a fraction of the price. If anyone is even remotely interested in this go to AVSforums.
I've actually measured 5 others (1 European and the rest USA variants) besides mine (Korean version), and every one was within the repeatability tollerances for my i1d3 pro. I don't think there will be any differences from manufacturing randomness due to how accurate they are straight from the factories, and I feel the same for any regional differences.
I'm not trying to offend anyone, but you are extremely likely to be wrong if you think Cinema/Photo/Basic modes are too red/warm using your eyes or another display as reference. Human eyes will adapt to warmer or cooler color temperatures regardless of accuracy, and factual data from tools all point to those display modes having amazing accuracy (See DisplayMate's shootout).
As for the question about color temperature...
The visible spectrum of light the typical human eye see will see more green colors than red and blue combined.
Blue is the portion we see the least of.
D65 is the standard white point which is based on the spectral pattern of light from the sun.
Since white is all colors, having D65 white means colors will interact with other colors realistically so there is no drastic change in perception around other light sources like tinting only under fluorescent lights but not incandescent lights.
Warm and Cool are how we describe which corner on a CIE chart a white is closer too in relation to where D65 is.
The above isn't totally true, but I didn't want to go into detail, but it's close enough I think. See AVSforum for the truth from people far more knowledgeable than I, like real ISF certified calibrators, Calibration hardware/software companies used by movie studios and scientists, etc).
Try using the phone for a couple of hours straight while set to Basic, then go back and change it. Do you still think it looks pink?
Before I forget again, it's possible a screen protector can cause a tint, as the material of the protector and any coatings it has (polarization, anti-glare, oleophobic, etc) will change the spectral distribution of the primary colors red/green/blue. This will change your perception of color based on your environmental lighting. So it could look perfectly fine in one room of your house and different in another if they had different types of light. That's just an example, as there are so many types of lights and each have their own color temperature and spectral distribution. Not just like incandescent vs fluorescent lights, but various types of incandescents (size, shape, power consumption, bulb material, diffuse coating, etc).
EMJI79 said:
Isn't there an app to fully calibrate the screen?
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Android does not have any real color management, so you can't really calibrate the screen.
It's not really needed with this models' display, from the factory they are one of if not the most accurate displays you can get. It is on par with OLED displays with a 3D LUT that are used by movie studios for color grading.
Take a gander at DisplayMate's shootout for the Note 8. This is a technical analysis made by DisplayMate who's business is dealing with grading level accurate displays for those studios.
I just realised I may look like I'm advertising for AVSforum. I'm not.
It's just that what XDA is to Android and related stuffs, AVSforum is to home theatre and related stuffs. Actually they're better as they actually have active "official" members of the industry and not representatives. It's great being able to talk to people at or close to the source. I say active because they're not just there to advertise or sell you something. You can learn 99% of everything about calibration, for free, from the same people who's job is calibration or ISF instructors who hold paid or college classes. The equivalent type of people missing from XDA would be like engineers, lead techs and top level technical people from smartphone divisions from all the companies.
Kamikaze_Ice said:
Android does not have any real color management, so you can't really calibrate the screen.
It's not really needed with this models' display, from the factory they are one of if not the most accurate displays you can get. It is on par with OLED displays with a 3D LUT that are used by movie studios for color grading.
Take a gander at DisplayMate's shootout for the Note 8. This is a technical analysis made by DisplayMate who's business is dealing with grading level accurate displays for .
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I think for colour accuracy it also comes to personal preference, like for sound equalization.
I used mine initially in the AMOLED Photo mode but did notice that colors were oversaturated. I've since switched to Basic mode and so far prefer it to the other modes. No, it isn't perfect, but whites are more white than Adaptive mode and colors are less over-saturated than the other modes. AMOLED Photo would still be my second choice. Adaptive mode has whites that are much too blue.
I found amoled screen to be really dependent to orientation. In the best one it is better than IPS and in all the other ones it is worse. They really got to fix this.
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I think for colour accuracy it also comes to personal preference, like for sound equalization.
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Accuracy is NOT and NEVER WILL BE personal preference (unless you prefer accuracy, lol). Preference is an opinion, and has nothing to do with the truth. I prefer Cinema mode, despite knowing Basic is the most accurate mode for all content shown on the screen (HDR will trigger HDR mode, which use completely different settings.)
In this case the screen accuracy is referencing the standard it was made for (BT.2020 and Rec.709).
You're free to think Basic looks too red, but there is a 99% chance that you are wrong (<1% chance due to bad screen protector materials/polariaztion filter/dot matrix/oleophobic & other coatings and your environmental lighting).
Again, the screen is one of the most accurate displays ever made. Take it to any calibrator (not "geek squad"...) and they will get the same results as DisplayMate... assuming the calibrator has a spectro to profile his meters to the amoled screen.
I won't even get into sound. I'll just point everyone to Head-fi.org forums as well as AVSforums. Way to many variables to cover, even for IEMs which take your "room sound" out of the equation. Both places will do a far better job at explaining the science behind everything for audio and (digital) visual things. And yes, real science. Everything I've mentioned has hard proof (measurements) and not ancedotal or biased opinion.
None of this means you can't like something that's "not accurate". Just wanting to make it known that yes many don't know what they're talking about (Not trying to be rude here. Just sayin').
Bs, who tells you I have the exact same eye as you. Who tells you present measurements or even science covers whole phenomena variables (plus Godel and other scientist prove science can't completely theorise a phenomena).
Unless you have attended to MIT or Princeton chances are you haven't achieved science study level I have.
I don't appreciate the haughty way you commented my post.
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Bs, who tells you I have the exact same eye as you. Who tells you present measurements or even science covers whole phenomena variables (plus Godel and other scientist prove science can't completely theorise a phenomena).
Unless you have attended to MIT or Princeton chances are you haven't achieved science study level I have.
I don't appreciate the haughty way you commented my post.
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What's your screen issues. ? Just out interest.
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No real issue but I am not satisfied with the way greens are displayed, like on vegetation pictures.
Kamikaze_Ice said:
Despite what you think you're seeing, CINEMA/PHOTO/BASIC MODES ARE NOT "TOO RED". ADAPTIVE DOES HAS TOO MUCH BLUE.
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This is probably true, however, I grew accustomed to a more blueish white, that the basic mode appears too warm now.
I remember last year, after trading my Note 7 for the second time and going to the LG V20, that I thought the LG had a way too bright white, noticeably more blue. However, after having had that for about a year and finally switching back with the Note 8 a few days ago, the basic just doesn't feel right anymore. I really like the adaptive (that is, with a few minor adjustments to the sliders), but whenever I am in a game or watching something, then the adaptive mode has way too much saturation. Then the only thing that does help is switching back to Basic mode, but I get annoyed by how warm it appears to be as soon as I hit anything with a white background (like settings or text messaging). The laptop I'm writing this on also has a more blueish white, my Samsung SHUD TV seems to be somewhat in the middle of it all but less red than my Note.
While basic may be the best setting, I can't say I really like it. Switching back and forth between the modes is a workaround, not really a solution. I really want to like this phone, but it is quite an annoyance to me personally, even more so when I consider I'm paying 950 USD for it. I am going to give it a few more days to see if I can get better used to basic mode or if I am going to return it to the store. It saddens me a bit that there's no option to add a little bit more blue to the basic mode, which, to me, is really all it needs.
I would also like to add more blue even to adaptive mode.
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svache said:
This is probably true, however, I grew accustomed to a more blueish white, that the basic mode appears too warm now.
I remember last year, after trading my Note 7 for the second time and going to the LG V20, that I thought the LG had a way too bright white, noticeably more blue. However, after having had that for about a year and finally switching back with the Note 8 a few days ago, the basic just doesn't feel right anymore. I really like the adaptive (that is, with a few minor adjustments to the sliders), but whenever I am in a game or watching something, then the adaptive mode has way too much saturation. Then the only thing that does help is switching back to Basic mode, but I get annoyed by how warm it appears to be as soon as I hit anything with a white background (like settings or text messaging). The laptop I'm writing this on also has a more blueish white, my Samsung SHUD TV seems to be somewhat in the middle of it all but less red than my Note.
While basic may be the best setting, I can't say I really like it. Switching back and forth between the modes is a workaround, not really a solution. I really want to like this phone, but it is quite an annoyance to me personally, even more so when I consider I'm paying 950 USD for it. I am going to give it a few more days to see if I can get better used to basic mode or if I am going to return it to the store. It saddens me a bit that there's no option to add a little bit more blue to the basic mode, which, to me, is really all it needs.
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Although a different device, the basic mode on my Samsung tab S2 LTE is awesome. It's a night and day difference to the Note 8 , albeit both adaptive modes on both devices are closer in my eyes . However, the basic mode on the tab s2 doesn't go pink but a more warmer yellow type mode.
I agree with you , the basic mode in my eyes on the N8 is rubbish.
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Contrast (true blacks)

How well do you know your fifty shades of grey? Rate this thread to express how good the Nokia 7 Plus's display contrast is. A higher rating indicates that black is true black, rather than a very dark gray.
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Hello. I would like to ask about the deep blacks on low brightness in an environment without a light. I read before sleep, and I set my nexus 6p amoled to black with white text. Knowing that LCD cannot block all the light for blacks, I want to know how strong the gray shade is. I searched for an image taken from the display during night with no luck. Though considering the variable exposure of photos I guess it is useless to see that. Unfortunately the same can be said about human perception, but anyway I really appreciate any thought on the matter.
So couple of days later and I have the phone. I will post my opinion on the screen here for anyone wondering.
First about the thread topic: The blacks do look grayish in a very dark environment, so compared to an amoled the backlight is visible, however, if the brightness is brought all the way down to minimum, it is bearable.
According to this statistics the Nokia 7 plus screen gets a top score in contrast among LCDs. According to Nokia their screens have an additional polarizing layer which filters more backlight for darks. I confirm that even with an ambient light the grayish tone of blacks is not visible.
Now before discussing the cons of the screen, I have to say that I consider it a good screen. The contrast is good, colors pop out (not as much as amoleds), the sunlight reading is good (not excellent, 3.5 out of 5, amoleds capped at 3), and I enjoy watching movies, peculiarly even more than my nexus 7 amoled, I think it has to do with that faint grayish blacks! Since if I increase the amoled brightness the contrast will increase to an unnatural level for movies (just my opinion).
Now the shortcoming is the absence of white balance adjustment, on software side. This absence is problematic in this case because it is a very cold screen, which means the colors are a little toward blue tones. On the same website if you look at the "Color Temperature" you see it scores 8105, compared to 6863 of Pixel 2. How important this is? It is personal preference! I found turning on the night mode with a very light intensity fixes the problem; Yet we need more color control like in Oxygen OS from Oneplus. Will be happy to see it included in pure android since the needed filters exist as core android libraries.

Clarity/resolution

The Xiaomi Mi 9 SE has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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This is the first time I use a phone that has Amoled screen. I heard about color shifting which happens to Amoled screen but I still curious. Does color shifting happen to your devices ?
For mine, when I tilt the phone, even a little bit, I see the blocks of color turn from blue (cool) to pink (warm) and backward. This only happens on white background. If the view angle is 90 degree, its fine. But if it greater or smaller than that, about 60 degree, it's just like a rainbow is moving. Kind of annoying
nqtsparda said:
This is the first time I use a phone that has Amoled screen. I heard about color shifting which happens to Amoled screen but I still curious. Does color shifting happen to your devices ?
For mine, when I tilt the phone, even a little bit, I see the blocks of color turn from blue (cool) to pink (warm) and backward. This only happens on white background. If the view angle is 90 degree, its fine. But if it greater or smaller than that, about 60 degree, it's just like a rainbow is moving. Kind of annoying
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Please post some pictures of the display at different viewing angles.
Ive been using OLED screens for the last couple of years, mostly from Samsung, as is the one on the Mi 9 SE. They have never had any issue of the sort. I have however seen such a thing on the panels used in Blackberry phones.
The SE seems like the only device out this year that ticks my boxes as far as size and display quality, i would dearly like to know if sammy is delivering sub par screens here.
I have to say i am skeptical, so some proof would be appreciated.
Incat said:
Interesting. I've never used a phone with an amoled screen, but sounds like this would put me off.
Not sure if any stores here in the UK have the mi9se that I could try out before purchasing.
Pocophone I've just bought is lovely, but just a little too big for me coming from a mi6,which is why I'm considering the mi9 se.
No headphone socket though.!
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Lets see if its actually true first. Here is a very detailed review that includes many angles on the display, none show any color shifting:
https://youtu.be/v1lzzcCUvFc
That review also has some interesting info about the notification handling and the state of the currently available ROMs.
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Please post some pictures of the display at different viewing angles.
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Sorry about vid quality, I recorded it by RMN 3
You can see the color turn into warm and cool blocks when I change view angle vertically
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fv_xcUn-aIdcxY_f1DX5oXRvNVenLbCf/view?usp=sharing
it's hard to see much wrong with that.
are you looking too hard for problems...?
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Sorry about vid quality, I recorded it by RMN 3
You can see the color turn into warm and cool blocks when I change view angle vertically
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fv_xcUn-aIdcxY_f1DX5oXRvNVenLbCf/view?usp=sharing
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Honestly I'm not seeing a big problem there... But the resolution isn't great. Someone below said the A50 display at the store was better but it too has an original Sammy screen, also manufactures in Vietnam.
Mb a good quality photo?
Also, what about the issue with the notifications? Ant solution for it other than AOD?
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Honestly I'm not seeing a big problem there... But the resolution isn't great. Someone below said the A50 display at the store was better but it too has an original Sammy screen, also manufactures in Vietnam.
Mb a good quality photo?
Also, what about the issue with the notifications? Ant solution for it other than AOD?
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1 month used and I think I get use to it. Maybe after I checked Mi 8, it also has the same issue. So I guess this is actually not an issue anymore
I also hope for solution replacing notification light. Heard alot about "the dot" but after many attemps with many apps, the choosen one is still missing I guess.
I have a Pixel 3. The Mi 9 SE, despite technically having a lower PPI value, is noticeably sharper. I imagine this is because it's not using the Pentile layout that the Pixel 3 screen has.

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You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the ASUS ROG Phone II's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
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I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
zed011 said:
I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
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My friend says screen is great
At low brightness? No strange effects on gray color?
zed011 said:
I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
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In terms of brightness I would say it's average at best. The screen is very dim my current brightness slider is set at 80% and that is just to navigate conformabley. But I would recommend a 85 to 90% settings.
The screen isn't yellowish quite the opposite actually in comparison with my 1st generation ROG, colors are even I would say and no grain.
Rashad83 said:
In terms of brightness I would say it's average at best. The screen is very dim my current brightness slider is set at 80% and that is just to navigate conformabley. But I would recommend a 85 to 90% settings.
The screen isn't yellowish quite the opposite actually in comparison with my 1st generation ROG, colors are even I would say and no grain.
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Hopefully it's just a software issue and will be resolved shortly. Hell, it couldn't be worse than the OP6T. And the ROG2 has around 200 nits more than the 6T. That fukn thing, you can't see **** on if its bright out. Overall, I would think the extra 2,000 mah would compensate for the higher brightness til its fixed.
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Hopefully it's just a software issue and will be resolved shortly. Hell, it couldn't be worse than the OP6T. And the ROG2 has around 200 nits more than the 6T. That fukn thing, you can't see **** on if its bright out. Overall, I would think the extra 2,000 mah would compensate for the higher brightness til its fixed.
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But even if the brightness slider is set to 100% shouldn't consume much more battery if the screen is still dim...right?
By the way, can anyone let me know how bright is it compared to Razer Phone 1?
el4nimal said:
But even if the brightness slider is set to 100% shouldn't consume much more battery if the screen is still dim...right?
By the way, can anyone let me know how bright is it compared to Razer Phone 1?
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With 6000mah you have nothing to worry about. Reduce the refresh rate to 60 and you will get time over or equal to 10 hours standby time.
Regarding the razor phone I would think it would be much brighter because it's an LCD panel. But I am not definitive.
zed011 said:
I am quite concerned about some of the comments I saw on JD.com . People say the screen is yellowish, uneven coloring and grainy which gets even worse when the brightness is low. Can anyone confirm this here?
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just got my tencent version today. the screen max and min brightness is slightly higher than my oneplus 5. uneven colour/graininess requires you to squint with your face almost stuck to the screen so its really a nonissue. white balance is pretty on point and actually a little on the cool side tho whites are almost perfect white
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just got my tencent version today. the screen max and min brightness is slightly higher than my oneplus 5. uneven colour/graininess requires you to squint with your face almost stuck to the screen so its really a nonissue. white balance is pretty on point and actually a little on the cool side tho whites are almost perfect white
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You can also adjust color temperature and saturation in display settings. I think this screen is awesome.
R8nD0m said:
just got my tencent version today. the screen max and min brightness is slightly higher than my oneplus 5. uneven colour/graininess requires you to squint with your face almost stuck to the screen so its really a nonissue. white balance is pretty on point and actually a little on the cool side tho whites are almost perfect white
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The Tencent version is that bad?!?
Cellendril said:
The Tencent version is that bad?!?
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Umm everything I said is praise.
I did notice that graininess and very slight yellow shifting occurs at near minimum brightness but its really not easy to spot
Other than that the experience has been pretty amazing
Cellendril said:
The Tencent version is that bad?!?
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The screen is excellent in my opinion, and while the maximum brightness isn't the brightest out there, it's perfectly adequate even in direct sunlight.
As far as low brightness goes, I felt like the lowest brightness was still a little too bright next to my wife in bed so I installed low brightness pro. If anyone else feels they want to go lower..
Got the phone. Definitely too bright at lowest so either use an app to add dark overlay to dim or wait for a software update I guess
Has red tint on dark theme grey on brightness below 50%
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At low brightness? No strange effects on gray color?
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Yes it does have a red tint on dark grey colors. Visible everywhere in apps using dark theme based on grey like google apps dark mode, the rog ui itself and any dark grey on screen.
Effect is more pronounced while using 120hz. And less on other modes.
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Yes it does have a red tint on dark grey colors. Visible everywhere in apps using dark theme based on grey like google apps dark mode, the rog ui itself and any dark grey on screen.
Effect is more pronounced while using 120hz. And less on other modes.
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Same. dark greys become reddish when the brightness is lower than 40%
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Same. dark greys become reddish when the brightness is lower than 40%
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Same here, got the tencent version. Lets hope its just a software issue that future update can fix it. Im coming from s9 plus so its hard to compare the beauty of the screen.
Minimum brightness is way too high. Reference compared to nexus 5x and galaxy s7 on lowest setting. It's blinding
Rog 2 is brighter than the sun
I have a great appreciate of the capabilities of this phone, no matter what you might hear this phone has superb color rendering and there is no beating the refresh rate. When it comes to comparing how it delivers in color saturation compared to its competition all you are doing is splitting hairs... But as for its minimum brightness, well you cannot appreciate how truly bright the panel is until you are trying to write a blog post when the lights are off and your partner is asleep next to you.
With the slider all the way down its impossible to look at the screen without squinting real hard because those whites burn through your retinas and imprint on your soul. Do you like watching Netflix on your phone in bed? Not on this phone you won't. Want to read that last Facebook alert you just got after you turned the lights out? Absolutely you can do it... If you like staring at the sun that is. I sincerely hope Asus can do some sort of work around and deliver less power to the display in total darkness because light induced migrains are not fun.
Otherwise pretty good phone.

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