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is zenfone 2 a worth buy?

I am looking to buy zenfone 2 ...2.3 gghz with 4 gigs ram
Is it a worth buy??
I am asking because i am spending my hard earned 20000 bucks for a flagship
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Are the bugs like call drops and battery software related?
Is it a isssue that could be fixed? Or hardware?

Both hw and sw bug, really disturd your life, i suggest do not buy this zenbug 2

tuilalnvinh said:
Both hw and sw bug, really disturd your life, i suggest do not buy this zenbug 2
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I really don't know what are yall talking about. Yes there's a battery drain that's characteristic of 5.0 but easily manageable. I can get 5h SoT without too much hassle, and no dropped calls. But hey, to each their own. [emoji1]
aj7400 said:
I am looking to buy zenfone 2 ...2.3 gghz with 4 gigs ram
Is it a worth buy??
I am asking because i am spending my hard earned 20000 bucks for a flagship
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Are the bugs like call drops and battery software related?
Is it a isssue that could be fixed? Or hardware?
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lordpipa said:
I really don't know what are yall talking about. Yes there's a battery drain that's characteristic of 5.0 but easily manageable. I can get 5h SoT without too much hassle, and no dropped calls. But hey, to each their own. [emoji1]
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Yess but i see people rating it negetively ... And thats what created a doubt in my mind that will it be a bang for the buck

aj7400 said:
Yess but i see people rating it negetively ... And thats what created a doubt in my mind that will it be a bang for the buck
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And that's why I don't let myself get carried away by what people say. Positively or negatively, I bought this phone 2 days after it dropped in Taiwan. Yeah saw some issues, mostly coming from and S3 on custom roms and me being a custom Rom maintainer myself. But I saw the potential that this Rom can have and with a few tweaks here and there, runs like a champ.

lordpipa said:
And that's why I don't let myself get carried away by what people say. Positively or negatively, I bought this phone 2 days after it dropped in Taiwan. Yeah saw some issues, mostly coming from and S3 on custom roms and me being a custom Rom maintainer myself. But I saw the potential that this Rom can have and with a few tweaks here and there, runs like a champ.
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What are u talking about ?
Rom ?
Which rom?
The thread is about asus zenfone 2 as a whole

aj7400 said:
What are u talking about ?
Rom ?
Which rom?
The thread is about asus zenfone 2 as a whole
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Read again, I'm saying that me switching from an S3 on custom Rom to Asus stock was a change and saw the issues first hand but nothing that could be fixed with a few tweaks.

lordpipa said:
I really don't know what are yall talking about. Yes there's a battery drain that's characteristic of 5.0 but easily manageable. I can get 5h SoT without too much hassle, and no dropped calls. But hey, to each their own. [emoji1]
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Maybe you are a lucky man with a bug-less fone :good:. Apart from battery drain, my fone had broken the power button, sim card 1 slot error, and especially wrong battery calibration which many user experience here :
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/tw/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=79049
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zenfone-off-t3106960
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=7395&extra=page=2

tuilalnvinh said:
Maybe you are a lucky man with a bug-less fone :good:. Apart from battery drain, my fone had broken the power button, sim card 1 slot error, and especially wrong battery calibration which many user experience here :
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/tw/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=79049
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/zenfone-off-t3106960
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=7395&extra=page=2
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Really sad that you had a bad experience with the phone. Personally other than the battery drain and self inflicted errors, mine has been totally different.

i came from S3 too..and IMHO is, my ZF2 beats my S3 in all terms, except there's not much user/developer involvement yet..unlike S3, everyday there are new updates or release on custom rom/kernel.. we just have to pray for ASUS to unlock their bootloader.. and currently ZF2 is on android 5.0..altho its buggy, hopefully ASUS brings 5.1.1 update to it..

cangcan said:
i came from S3 too..and IMHO is, my ZF2 beats my S3 in all terms, except there's not much user/developer involvement yet..unlike S3, everyday there are new updates or release on custom rom/kernel.. we just have to pray for ASUS to unlock their bootloader.. and currently ZF2 is on android 5.0..altho its buggy, hopefully ASUS brings 5.1.1 update to it..
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Alot of mixed reviews ..
I think i ll wait more ...
One plus one is great too

As someone who owns a gs6 edge and a HTC m9 I have to say the Zenfone is totally worth it. Battery life has been great compared to the other two, performance is fast and fluid, the camera is good, the screen is beautiful. I'm actually considering using the one I got at the launch event as my daily driver. Right now I use the edge as my DD with my m9 as a backup. At 299 you can't go wrong. You get the most bang for your buck. I was very skeptical about the Intel soc performance but so far I have zero complaints about it.

I am absolutely delighted with mine. Was on a very restricted budget (had to buy two, one for me and one for my wife) so only got the 550 but actually glad I did because I'm not fussed about NFC or having a few less sensors, I find the 720p screen an acceptable compromise, and the bang for the buck is phenomenal. Yeah, there are a few flaws or irritations, but nothing major for me. There's a great deal of satisfaction in having got so much for so little

graffixnyc said:
As someone who owns a gs6 edge and a HTC m9 I have to say the Zenfone is totally worth it. Battery life has been great compared to the other two, performance is fast and fluid, the camera is good, the screen is beautiful. I'm actually considering using the one I got at the launch event as my daily driver. Right now I use the edge as my DD with my m9 as a backup. At 299 you can't go wrong. You get the most bang for your buck. I was very skeptical about the Intel soc performance but so far I have zero complaints about it.
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Thanks for your reply ...
I know the chipset is very very fast ...
But there are people who are getting physically defective devices as well .. May be asus is bad at quality check?
Also dev support is a big question mark on intel sOc.? Because any company will stop the development for its old devices with passage of time ..
So we might not see next versions of android on zf2.
And it is difficult to live with the old stock rom throughout the time you own it ..
The present bugs might be fixed with ota updates... I GUESS :/

kanagawaben said:
I am absolutely delighted with mine. Was on a very restricted budget (had to buy two, one for me and one for my wife) so only got the 550 but actually glad I did because I'm not fussed about NFC or having a few less sensors, I find the 720p screen an acceptable compromise, and the bang for the buck is phenomenal. Yeah, there are a few flaws or irritations, but nothing major for me. There's a great deal of satisfaction in having got so much for so little
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This is exactly my case too. The only thing I would add is the support from Asus does come. Everyone uses the phone differently and some bugs annoy more people than others, but for me it was the music playback stuttering when other apps were used, but that was fixed in today's update. Credit to Asus, they are fixing the issues.

One of the people who came from the s3, except I had the locked down Verizon version, so no roms for me.
This phone is 100% better in every way, and I'm absolutely delighted with it --- there's a few little software bugs I've noticed, but I doubt most people would notice them, and then there's the battery drain.
Even with the battery drain, I can't complain one bit about battery life, so I can't wait for 5.1!

I bought one...
I bought one based on several factors but here is one piece of info that most people should know prior to purchasing.
The 4g Ram 2.3Ghz Version is the only one that comes with the 18W charger!!! So the phone does get hot when it is below 60% charge due to the 9 Volt 2 Amp charging. After the phone reaches 60% it steps down the 5V 2A which will allow the phone to cool while still pumping in the juice at a fairly good rate.
The heat is an expected side effect of the massive flow of power into the battery.
My opinion on the subject... Keep the 18W charger in your car/purse/backpack/briefcase, and use a 5v 2A charger for everyday charging. :good:
Heat+Electronics=Bad things especially when it comes to batteries. :crying:

goolac said:
I bought one based on several factors but here is one piece of info that most people should know prior to purchasing.
The 4g Ram 2.3Ghz Version is the only one that comes with the 18W charger!!! So the phone does get hot when it is below 60% charge due to the 9 Volt 2 Amp charging. After the phone reaches 60% it steps down the 5V 2A which will allow the phone to cool while still pumping in the juice at a fairly good rate.
The heat is an expected side effect of the massive flow of power into the battery.
My opinion on the subject... Keep the 18W charger in your car/purse/backpack/briefcase, and use a 5v 2A charger for everyday charging. :good:
Heat+Electronics=Bad things especially when it comes to batteries. :crying:
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The phone and quickcharging implementation are designed around that... It's well-known that these accelerated charge solutions pump a lot of juice and ramp up the heat.

Im happy about my 550ml..its dirt cheap $200 and as fast as iphone 6..and the good thing about it is the our beloved developers here includes this 550ml version too in there awesome projects ..rootings..etc..thank you

pato2015 said:
Im happy about my 550ml..its dirt cheap $200 and as fast as iphone 6..and the good thing about it is the our beloved developers here includes this 550ml version too in there awesome projects ..rootings..etc..thank you
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if ze550ml can work as iphone 6
Then I wonder 551 ml with 4 gigs of ram can work like future iphone 7 and 8
At 1/3 of price

Bye bye zenfone 2

Ok, this is a completely personal opinion. I'm normally a lurker in that I've used xda for years with various devices. However, never have I been more disappointed with a phone then with the zenfone 2. My decision to leave behind the device and android is simply on my experience.
For me I made the purchase whilst in Hong Kong. I moved to windows phone last year and couldn't fault it's speed, usage, memory management or battery life. My 1320 held a charge for days and days. Simply fab.
But whilst in HK I saw, numerous times, the advert for the zenfone 2. It looked good and with the 64gb and 4gb ram combo I just thought wow. So I went for a look and a play. It wasn't an impulse purchase, I took my time over a number of days, plus did my research on the device where reviews said it was a great flagship killer. Fantastic, plus the price in HK was great. So I got one. I added a zenwatch to accompany it.
But, and here's the rub for me. I've had this now for just under 2 months. Despite a large battery, 3000 mah, the sot is pathetic. I've read all the guides, have greenify, rooted the device, used boot manager and xposed, disabled and changed the wakelocks and alarms and its still pathetic. Most of all when you spend out on a device I feel strongly that you shouldn't need to do all of this just to get decent use out of it. The fact that the android OS is still a battery eater just baffles me. The speculation and promise of 5.1.1 just carries on, and whilst there now an abundance of customs coming out I must ask, why can't the manufacturers just listen to its market??!!
So, whilst many people will probably be haters and winner why I've posted this, simply I think those researching about this device should see this opinion. This is also from someone who used android for years, has used iOS and is no stranger to custom ROMs.
The zenfone 2 could be a winner. Emphasis on could. But it's system abuses the battery rather than showing what can be achieved. The camera is average, and on the whole has been a real disappointment.
In conclusion, I respect you all sticking by it, totally respect the devs for bringing cm, paranoid, slim and all the other customs to the device. I truly do. For me it just shouldn't be this way.
So I'm now going to run off, hide, and return once and for all to to windows phone.
Cheers.
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bay91 said:
Ok, this is a completely personal opinion. I'm normally a lurker in that I've used xda for years with various devices. However, never have I been more disappointed with a phone then with the zenfone 2. My decision to leave behind the device and android is simply on my experience.
For me I made the purchase whilst in Hong Kong. I moved to windows phone last year and couldn't fault it's speed, usage, memory management or battery life. My 1320 held a charge for days and days. Simply fab.
But whilst in HK I saw, numerous times, the advert for the zenfone 2. It looked good and with the 64gb and 4gb ram combo I just thought wow. So I went for a look and a play. It wasn't an impulse purchase, I took my time over a number of days, plus did my research on the device where reviews said it was a great flagship killer. Fantastic, plus the price in HK was great. So I got one. I added a zenwatch to accompany it.
But, and here's the rub for me. I've had this now for just under 2 months. Despite a large battery, 3000 mah, the sot is pathetic. I've read all the guides, have greenify, rooted the device, used boot manager and xposed, disabled and changed the wakelocks and alarms and its still pathetic. Most of all when you spend out on a device I feel strongly that you shouldn't need to do all of this just to get decent use out of it. The fact that the android OS is still a battery eater just baffles me. The speculation and promise of 5.1.1 just carries on, and whilst there now an abundance of customs coming out I must ask, why can't the manufacturers just listen to its market??!!
So, whilst many people will probably be haters and winner why I've posted this, simply I think those researching about this device should see this opinion. This is also from someone who used android for years, has used iOS and is no stranger to custom ROMs.
The zenfone 2 could be a winner. Emphasis on could. But it's system abuses the battery rather than showing what can be achieved. The camera is average, and on the whole has been a real disappointment.
In conclusion, I respect you all sticking by it, totally respect the devs for bringing cm, paranoid, slim and all the other customs to the device. I truly do. For me it just shouldn't be this way.
So I'm now going to run off, hide, and return once and for all to to windows phone.
Cheers.
Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using XDA Forums
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Dude, i respect your opinion, but forgot something very important.
windows phone, Iphone, Android high gamma (samsung, sony, Lg) 600/1000 USD
Asus Zenfone2 299 USD
good luck !!!

Lumia 930, less cost than zenfone 2, let alone if I went 640xl.
But for me, buying a smart phone shouldn't need so much modding to make it work great.
IPhone. Been there once, never again. At the end of the day I don't need a million apps. I need my stable free, plus battery life so I can use my device for work and play. I can't get that on the zenfone I'm afraid, well not without a charger always in my pocket
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Good luck! The Asus Zenfone 2 is one of the most confusing devices, I've come across. It's battery life has been receiving mixed reviews, and has been the main reason why I'm still waiting for 5.1 or CM12 beta to be released for it, before I buy. I read in one of the reviews that even for a single piece of zf2, the battery performance is not consistent. The delay in releasing 5.1 by Asus is also frustrating. x-(

i have no problem with battery, with normal usage no need charge during day. 2 sims, 4g always on and many social apps in background.

You can run win7, so more powerfull, more handy and battery life fantaztic compared to netbook and is only a chiper phone so what more?

When you invest on something and it doesn't give the required result, it really feels terrible. Right now, this is the situation with ZF2 users. But still, I have hope on ASUS that they will give 5.1.1 update soon. Hope for the Best!

Asus released zenfone max today 5000 milli amp battery, I am afraid this is their answer to battery usage, not 5.1.1

I wonder what all people, who complain about SOT in ZF2, do when they're screen is on.
But our mileage varies, I guess. Never had a problem with battery life with the ZF2.

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Asus released zenfone max today 5000 milli amp battery, I am afraid this is their answer to battery usage, not 5.1.1
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Just looked at it and I'm disappointed Asus put a Snapdragon 410 in the thing.
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I'm holding out hope for 5.1.1....but if we don't get it by September, mid to late, I'm going to take the hit, sell this, and get the Moto X Pure edition. Can't fault Asus with their continuous firmware updates, good on them for continuing to try. But with the constant news of major vulnerabilities in the various Android versions, I must have a device I know will be supported for a good long while, and Moto is now proving to be king with that regard.

Why people thinks is bad? now is summertime, in winter will not battery drain. If you work in cool place you will never expect battery issue...
Two day is not enough for a smart phone? How had to be supposed battery life? You say me that other smartphone is too long then zf2? Maybe 3 dayz?

Think people get a bit hung up on the battery life partly because of the way it is reporting it as android OS using a lot, rather than it actually being particularly bad. It certainly isn't fantastic battery life, and is quite variable depending how you use it, but I generally get through a day without recharging and get around 4 to 6 hours SOT. That's on performance mode with Max brightness too. Good enough, certainly better than my old iPhone 5 which used less juice when sleeping but drained fast when screen was on, especially texting, Facebook and camera. So I am OK with the zenfone (Mine is the 550 though). I also think general performance is satisfactory and the camera is passable. Considering the price, I don't think I can have any major complaints. I am still happily enjoying my zenfone everyday

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Just looked at it and I'm disappointed Asus put a Snapdragon 410 in the thing.
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And 720x1280 resolution, Adreno 306 to save battery... Can't have it all!

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And 720x1280 resolution, Adreno 306 to save battery... Can't have it all!
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You can if manufactures are thinking lol. Seriously, they could have used the Snapdragon 615 and kept the resolution the same for performance . Oh well at least it offers a better value (IMO) compared to the Moto G since it cost like $160.
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Everyone is entitled to their choice, and I certainly won't fault you for your decision to leave the Zenfone 2 behind.
I'm not a fan of Windows Phone myself, but I will agree it's more efficient than Android, and runs smoother on lower-end hardware. For me though, it just doesn't have the selection of apps I prefer, nor the customization of Android.
Either way, your concerns with the Zenfone 2 are justified, and I can understand why you are getting rid of it. I personally love it, but then again I can live with the battery

Personally I share the same sentiments on the ZenFone 2. I came from an Xperia T2 ultra Dual. 6 inch 720p display kitkat and 3000mAH battery and I have to say ZenFone 2 sucks in the battery life department but is flawless operation just rocks. I would get 2 days of battery on a single charge on the T2 ultra with light usage but the phone froze once in a while. Now with the ZenFone 2 551 2gb 16gb, with a 3000 mAH battery i hardly get 8hrs of life on 1 charge. Am forced to look for quick charge 2.0 car charger and travel charger. I left home at 12pm with a full battery and made 3 calls of 10minutes max, replied to this forum and about 30 mins of browsing and 2 and half hrs later it's at 59% WTF!
If it were the Xperia i would have been at 95-90 % on battery.
On a positive side the ZenFone is a performer minus the battery life issue.
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Ginuz said:
You can run win7, so more powerfull, more handy and battery life fantaztic compared to netbook and is only a chiper phone so what more?
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Maybe I don't understand.... You can run win7 on ZF2??? I'd be interested in that, could you give a link?
Never heard about someone succeeding to do it... Just lot of people willing to... The only solution I've heard about is chrooting linux distros... kinda dirty way to run an OS, in my opinion...

Not sure about anyone else but I've had no issues with mine either with battery or beat-up of lollipop (knock on wood). I've had tons of android phones and my last was the galaxy s5, this zf2 has exceeded all my expectations and the battery life is about the same as my s5. For the price, this phone packs a punch, if anyone wants the perfect phone then you'll probably be spending twice or three times the price and I'm sure you'll pick something wrong with that phone also but now it's an 800 dollar phone instead of 299 ?
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mnt27 said:
Maybe I don't understand.... You can run win7 on ZF2??? I'd be interested in that, could you give a link?
Never heard about someone succeeding to do it... Just lot of people willing to... The only solution I've heard about is chrooting linux distros... kinda dirty way to run an OS, in my opinion...
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Not natively, only in an emulator. Kind of like in vmware or virtualbox.

Brilliant phone.

Does anyone else think that even years later this phone is still a fantastic phone even in line with mainstream phones coming out now? I've passed up on upgrading on my contract 2 years running now, since my mate gave me the le max 2 not long after it came out. Even looking at the latest Samsung's and and other top of the range phones coming out, I don't see any point in upgrading, the le max with the latest roms that are still being developed, and this phone, I believe is on a par with anything, the hardware is great, I've not had a single issue with anything on this phone at all, not even a slight blip, it's been %1000 solid and I believe will be for a long time still. I look at the latest phones on the market and think, what benefits are there over this, and I see none at all, this phone still runs smooth as butter, runs anything I've ever attempted to play on it perfectly. I just can't believe how good it's been, I don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon and never in my life have I had the same phone for so long, but to not have a single fault with it in all that time either, just makes this a brilliant phone. That's all I wanted to say haha, and maybe see if anyone else agrees with me?

Heyyo, I most definitely do as well! It's really impressive how much tech they crammed into this device while keeping it really affordable. It was more than $100 CAD cheaper than a OnePlus 3 and an official release of LineageOS was all the confidence I needed to buy one.
It works great for me and yeah I also don't really see a reason to upgrade heh.
It's really too bad that Jia Yeuting screwed up LeEco so bad when the Le Max 2 and Le Pro3 and their friendliness to unlocking bootloader and kernel source code were examples of how much potential LeEco had if they kept up with devices like this...
I'll be keeping my Le Max 2 for quite and while and keep contributing to the community ROM scene as much as I can! We will continue the work that LeEco started. :good:

Yeah it is great, and the best part for me is I didn't even pay for mine I have a friend who works for twitter and they basically give him a new phone every few months, to use, but to also test out and stuff at the same time, this was one of them. He gave me last year the nexus something or other, I used it for 5 minutes then put it straight on ebay
I have not updated my rom for like a year or so, and I was starting to worry about the lack of security patches and stuff so decided to freshen it up, and I was shocked how active development still is. Just shows that even if nobody else posts here, this phone is still super popular and widely used

A year ago I was starting to get frustrated with it, but then Google Camera HDR+ happened plus a stable Oreo and it's a totally new device now! All thanks to the amazing work of the community!

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A year ago I was starting to get frustrated with it, but then Google Camera HDR+ happened plus a stable Oreo and it's a totally new device now! All thanks to the amazing work of the community!
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I know, it is great, my sister just got the galaxy s9 and thinking she was great, I was like your phone cost like triple the price mine did brand new and doesn't really do anything that mine doesn't. What made it even funnier was the fact that hers only has android 8.0 and thanks to the awesome devs on here, mine has 8.1 she was not happy With this new rom it really is a whole new phone and I love it even more now, I did briefly brick it last night haha, but managed to sort it out thanks to the brilliant TWRP and adb sideload

Still loving mine after... a couple of months short of two years I think. Was really future-proofed with 4GB RAM, fast UFS storage, 1440p display and best of all the beast SD820 which has aged well and is still respectably powerful. What a bargain. And the fantastic Oreo custom ROMs we now have make it even better than it was originally and keep it bang up to date and relevant. There are just two things I wish were different about the phone - I wish it had better battery life, and I wish it had black top and chin bezels because the black borders on the display look bloody ugly with the gold top and bottom and would be much less noticeable if all black.

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Still loving mine after... a couple of months short of two years I think. Was really future-proofed with 4GB RAM, fast UFS storage, 1440p display and best of all the beast SD820 which has aged well and is still respectably powerful. What a bargain. And the fantastic Oreo custom ROMs we now have make it even better than it was originally and keep it bang up to date and relevant. There are just two things I wish were different about the phone - I wish it had better battery life, and I wish it had black top and chin bezels because the black borders on the display look bloody ugly with the gold top and bottom and would be much less noticeable if all black.
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Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.

beta546 said:
Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.
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Heyyo, if you want as much battery life as possible? Resurrection Remix Power Saver is the Oreo ROM that focuses on that. :good:
RRPS-O International
https://t.me/rrpsointl

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Heyyo, if you want as much battery life as possible? Resurrection Remix Power Saver is the Oreo ROM that focuses on that. :good:
RRPS-O International
https://t.me/rrpsointl
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Oh cool, please would you post the link for me? I see three RR ROMs in development section.
I do believe it was RR that I came from, but I installed that last rom over a year ago so can't quite remember haha

beta546 said:
Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.
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Which ROM did you used that you got 2 days of battery life?

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Which ROM did you used that you got 2 days of battery life?
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I couldn't tell you, until the other day, the last time I'd flashed a new ROM was over a year ago, but like I said, I think it could have been RR, but either way that rom is old, a year plus. And I'm not talking two days heavy use, was like 2 days of average use sending messages, the odd phone call, Google searches and stuff like that.

Excellent phone.
I bought this phone for 200$ a year ago and till now I haven't found any smartphone as good as le max 2 under 250$.
All my friends also like this phone very much.
Only con for me was the crappy Chinese UI which came in build but thanks to the excellent development group, stable oreo roms have taken this phone to a new level.
I will use this phone for another 2 years.

arpit1234567 said:
I bought this phone for 200$ a year ago and till now I haven't found any smartphone as good as le max 2 under 250$.
All my friends also like this phone very much.
Only con for me was the crappy Chinese UI which came in build but thanks to the excellent development group, stable oreo roms have taken this phone to a new level.
I will use this phone for another 2 years.
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Yeah that was the only downside, all the Chinese junk on it. But yeah the custom ROMs make it perfect. I am surprised because there was less development going on for this phone when it first came out than there is now. And I agree, I genuinely believe I'll be using this for another 2 years easily, if not more. I just don't see any upside to paying out money for a new phone that would not perform any better than this already does, and may only have an extra hardware feature or something else like that. I mean even if a new phone had triple the ram and triple the CPU power, what's the point? This phone runs everything perfectly fine, no amount of power is going to make a smoother experience than something that's already as smooth as you can get haha. I get no lag at all doing anything with this phone, and I've never had any issues running any games, even stuff I've seen that is incompatible with this device on the play store, I download it elsewhere and it runs perfectly haha. All I need to do is find another Oreo ROM with better battery than this one.

beta546 said:
Oh cool, please would you post the link for me? I see three RR ROMs in development section.
I do believe it was RR that I came from, but I installed that last rom over a year ago so can't quite remember haha
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I think he just released a new release candidate which isn't part of those last few work in progress builds so I'd search that group for replies by Sergey as he is the maintainer of rrps.
RR Nougat was officially maintained by andr68rus who has moved onto the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and there was an old and buggy Official release of RR O by unvesh but tbh they should just take that down as unvesh put out on release version and then bailed for a Xiaomi Mi A1...

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I think he just released a new release candidate which isn't part of those last few work in progress builds so I'd search that group for replies by Sergey as he is the maintainer of rrps.
RR Nougat was officially maintained by andr68rus who has moved onto the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and there was an old and buggy Official release of RR O by unvesh but tbh they should just take that down as unvesh put out on release version and then bailed for a Xiaomi Mi A1...
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Ah okay thanks for that. I'll have a proper look later from the computer. I'm sure my last ROM was RR but that was a marshmallow ROM, so pretty old, but the battery life was really good whatever it was haha.

beta546 said:
Ah okay thanks for that. I'll have a proper look later from the computer. I'm sure my last ROM was RR but that was a marshmallow ROM, so pretty old, but the battery life was really good whatever it was haha.
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Ah ok yeah for MarshMallow I'm pretty sure he also maintained it but that's quite a while back so I could be wrong hehe :silly:
He also maintained OmniRom official and AOKP unofficial and DU unofficial. They were pretty darn good. I really liked his AOKP Marshmallow builds they were slick.

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Ah ok yeah for MarshMallow I'm pretty sure he also maintained it but that's quite a while back so I could be wrong hehe :silly:
He also maintained OmniRom official and AOKP unofficial and DU unofficial. They were pretty darn good. I really liked his AOKP Marshmallow builds they were slick.
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Haha yeah it was over a year ago when I first used a custom ROM on this phone. It was only 3 days ago I finally upgraded to Oreo, mainly because I was worrying about the lack of any security patches in all that time. I'm really glad I did because it's like a new phone now, just a shame about the battery drain, I don't spend long periods out of my home so it's not a massive issue, I've been trying to find a fix for the network standbys battery drain which at the moment is using %30 of my battery and seems to be common to all Oreo ROMs and even the stock ROMs on new phones.

beta546 said:
Haha yeah it was over a year ago when I first used a custom ROM on this phone. It was only 3 days ago I finally upgraded to Oreo, mainly because I was worrying about the lack of any security patches in all that time. I'm really glad I did because it's like a new phone now, just a shame about the battery drain, I don't spend long periods out of my home so it's not a massive issue, I've been trying to find a fix for the network standbys battery drain which at the moment is using %30 of my battery and seems to be common to all Oreo ROMs and even the stock ROMs on new phones.
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Heyyo, unfortunately that is the Achilles heel of the Le Max 2... Cellular radio. The hardware is not very good compared to other devices released around the same time for the radio antennas in our device which is why a common complaint about the Le Max 2 is low signal quality a lot of the time...
On LineageOS 15.1 I tried to mitigate that issue by using Xiaomi Mi5 (Gemini) vendor blobs for all cellular radio activities but it's still a bandaid on a broken bone and only does so much... I don't know of any hardware mods to improve the cellular radio antennas on our device which in theory would do a better job of fixing the issue

Agreed this phone is still a beast. I've been on Omnirom 7.1.2 without problems since I got it and have felt no need to upgrade to Oreo. Are there any actual plusses, apart from reduced battery life?

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Heyyo, unfortunately that is the Achilles heel of the Le Max 2... Cellular radio. The hardware is not very good compared to other devices released around the same time for the radio antennas in our device which is why a common complaint about the Le Max 2 is low signal quality a lot of the time...
On LineageOS 15.1 I tried to mitigate that issue by using Xiaomi Mi5 (Gemini) vendor blobs for all cellular radio activities but it's still a bandaid on a broken bone and only does so much... I don't know of any hardware mods to improve the cellular radio antennas on our device which in theory would do a better job of fixing the issue
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To be honest I never even knew there was an issue with the radio, I've never had any issues with low signal, in fact I switch my network from LTE to gsm/wcdma preferred so I only get 3g not 4g as on 3g my signal is much better and I get up to 3 mb/s downloads and on 4g is usually less than 1 mb/s so in theory the radio should use less power with a good signal as it only boosts the power in low signal situations. Also on my last ROM I never had an issue with it draining battery, after draining a full charge, network standby was usually around %5-%10 of the total usage, since coming to Oreo a full drain to %1 has network standby as %30 of the total drain.

Zenfone 2 is dead. It's time to change

I think it's clear for everyone here that Zenfone 2 is dead. The Intel processor at the same time that gave us good performance, it killed our chances for good ROMs and updates.
It's time to change, I don't think we should expect ROM updates, I don't think devs should spend there time working in a dead phone.
So, knowing all of that, what's your next move? Zenfone 5? OnePlus 6? Xiaomi?

joaohkfaria said:
I think it's clear for everyone here that Zenfone 2 is dead. The Intel processor at the same time that gave us good performance, it killed our chances for good ROMs and updates.
It's time to change, I don't think we should expect ROM updates, I don't think devs should spend there time working in a dead phone.
So, knowing all of that, what's your next move? Zenfone 5? OnePlus 6? Xiaomi?
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I'm sticking with my Z2. It works just fine!
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I'm waiting for the Xiaomi Pocophone F1 or maybe I'll get a used Galaxy S9+ in good conditions.
The stupid Intel CPU sometimes gets on my nerves with the incompatibilities, random force closes and excessive overheating
Our only hope is NutOS. 8.0 should be the last Android available for this phone

yeah, an oreo will be great for this device, just lurking the forum to see if a stable one will popup (still some good progress around)

odjinan said:
yeah, an oreo will be great for this device, just lurking the forum to see if a stable one will popup (still some good progress around)
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It looks like they've almost got it working. Except for RIL. Which is kinda important lol
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:crying:
My phone is a little over three years old (bought on 23 June 2015). But now i have battery issues. Phone constantly shuts down when battery is around 25% (It happens only if phone is on load). But otherwise it jumps from 15% to 1-2% and shuts down immediately.
I am having display issues as well. A single cyan colored line at around 25% from the left end.
Otherwise it is working well. I don't think it is worth repairing.
But I'm happy that mine lasted more than my friends

Raiden01 said:
:crying:
My phone is a little over three years old (bought on 23 June 2015). But now i have battery issues. Phone constantly shuts down when battery is around 25% (It happens only if phone is on load). But otherwise it jumps from 15% to 1-2% and shuts down immediately.
I am having display issues as well. A single cyan colored line at around 25% from the left end.
Otherwise it is working well. I don't think it is worth repairing.
But I'm happy that mine lasted more than my friends
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If you are OK with a screwdriver you can fix both of these problems for less than $40US. A lot cheaper than a new phone.
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kenbo111 said:
If you are OK with a screwdriver you can fix both of these problems for less than $40US. A lot cheaper than a new phone.
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About repairing, the problem is I'm from India and I am skeptical about ordering replacement parts from amazon.in.
There are no parts in amazon that are amazon fulfilled and most of them doesn't have a review or the ones that had been reviewed doesn't make me feel confident to buy it. Plus replacements parts are not that cheap in India. Importing replacement parts is going to cost me high import duties ( I think I'll have to pay nearly double about 40% import duty ).
I had a good run with this phone.
But since the intel modem is badly optimised and battery inefficient for 4G, the lack of VoLTE and the absence of even 3G in second SIM and with no software updates and the problem with custom roms ( Devs please don't take it as an offence. You really made our Zenfones better, better than ASUS could ever make it, but porting x86 to arm has it's incompatibilities ).
I think I'll switch to a new phone after my battery gives up or if the display issue worsen.

I bought the OnePlus 6 today. Zenfone 2 was a hard, but amazing journey.
I really recommend everyone to change. Even Mi A1 and A2 are far superior than this phone.
Thank you devs for your support

What about LG G7? What do you think about it?

Raiden01 said:
About repairing, the problem is I'm from India and I am skeptical about ordering replacement parts from amazon.in.
There are no parts in amazon that are amazon fulfilled and most of them doesn't have a review or the ones that had been reviewed doesn't make me feel confident to buy it. Plus replacements parts are not that cheap in India. Importing replacement parts is going to cost me high import duties ( I think I'll have to pay nearly double about 40% import duty ).
I had a good run with this phone.
But since the intel modem is badly optimised and battery inefficient for 4G, the lack of VoLTE and the absence of even 3G in second SIM and with no software updates and the problem with custom roms ( Devs please don't take it as an offence. You really made our Zenfones better, better than ASUS could ever make it, but porting x86 to arm has it's incompatibilities ).
I think I'll switch to a new phone after my battery gives up or if the display issue worsen.
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Makes sense!
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Mine actually did die last Tuiesday
Unplugged it from charging and stopped.
Undid the thing and worked then put in charger again and died forever
Was a good phone and i liked working on it and miss it.
Got a new Samsung S7 Edge
Hate to say it, but battery is far supreme already.
Spent about 7hr updating apps on it and playing around and went down from 100% to 50% on the battery.
Amazing battery.

joaohkfaria said:
I think it's clear for everyone here that Zenfone 2 is dead. The Intel processor at the same time that gave us good performance, it killed our chances for good ROMs and updates.
It's time to change, I don't think we should expect ROM updates, I don't think devs should spend there time working in a dead phone.
So, knowing all of that, what's your next move? Zenfone 5? OnePlus 6? Xiaomi?
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I'll keep mine until it dies. I know that there are new phones for half the price but this Intel processor is fast enough for my needs.
Besides, every new phone means a lot of planet resources and bad working conditions.
Only annoying thing is it's back curve that force us to buy only ZF2 covers

There is a new x86 phone from Leagoo called the T5c. It has 8 cores but only 3GB of ram.
https://www.leagoo.com/products/T5c/spec.html

TFGBD said:
There is a new x86 phone from Leagoo called the T5c. It has 8 cores but only 3GB of ram.
https://www.leagoo.com/products/T5c/spec.html
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NEVER go for intel cpu, the problem of zf2 is poor intel support for modders.
this is why zf2 is stuck with los 14 bugged and no hope of improvement.
always go for snapdragon cpus, this ensure more life for future custom roms

OnePlus 8T & 8T Pro

What? I bought my OP 8 Pro a week ago, now there's a better version on the way.
Okay, I LOST.
Any true leaks?

https://www.tomsguide.com/news/oneplus-8t
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Oh forgot to tell you oh, it's an electronic Gizmo, it's dated as soon as you walk out of the store with it
Lol
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TheLegend975 said:
What? I bought my OP 8 Pro a week ago, now there's a better version on the way.
Okay, I LOST.
Any true leaks?
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They come our every six months mate. This is known.
But at the same time what exactly are they going to improve?
The CPU is the same albeit the + version.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were cross platform ROMs.

dladz said:
They come our every six months mate. This is known.
But at the same time what exactly are they going to improve?
The CPU is the same albeit the + version.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were cross platform ROMs.
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..and I highly doubt that display issues are fixed either

pyry666 said:
..and I highly doubt that display issues are fixed either
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I'm pretty confident it'll be the exact same screen..
Personally haven't got a problem with mine even before they lowered the max brightness.
There will be something to pull us end users towards it..doubt it'll be a hole punch again, won't be the same place if not.
I dunno.

FernBch said:
Oh forgot to tell you oh, it's an electronic Gizmo, it's dated as soon as you walk out of the store with it
Lol
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??

dladz said:
They come our every six months mate. This is known.
But at the same time what exactly are they going to improve?
The CPU is the same albeit the + version.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were cross platform ROMs.
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Perhaps the chip is the only difference, 865 plus.
But yeah, I'm satisfied with the 8pro, the T version is gonna cost a lot apparently.

Wrote this in the other thread, got closed so gets my two cents on the 8T or what I'd expect
The difference will be small incremental changes / updates, the 8 is already a pretty much perfect phone, I cannot fault it; maybe the battery if anything.
Remain
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Screen will remain the same
Size will remain the same
Speakers will remain the same
Battery may / should get a bump
RAM will remain the same
Storage will remain the same
Connectivity will remain the same
Photochrom will be dropped entirely
Buffs / changes
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Price will see a bump
Charging speed will get a bump
Camera bump from 48 - 64MP
Front camera may get moved to centre or an additional one added, won't be a pop up.
CPU / GPU will be the + variant, honestly at this point it matters a lot less than it would have a few years back, the 865 standard is so powerful the bump to the + may be negligible unless they retain performance and really work on the stamina but I can't see it
Design of the phone may change slightly
New camera lens will take place of photochrom, perhaps fish eye or similar, is 3D still a thing.
On a personal note, I wouldn't get the 8T as I already have the 8, for you I would say; if the battery doesn't get a major bump then I'd go with the 8.
Plus the price will drop when the 8T is near it's launch or even announcement making it the obvious choice.
Then again, that's my opinion, it's up to you.
Also all the rumours at this point are just rumours, if you want a good idea of what the device will be like, look out for the next oppo flagship as it's usually a strong indicator of what will be next for OnePlus.
OnePlus bring a phone out every 6 months, however for the first time there is literally nothing that the CPU / GPU cannot run perfectly, there is no need for more speed now, strange territory, will be interesting to see if they keep buffing the performance or work on efficiency, the latter would be the logical choice but I guess time will tell.

dladz said:
Wrote this in the other thread, got closed so gets my two cents on the 8T or what I'd expect
The difference will be small incremental changes / updates, the 8 is already a pretty much perfect phone, I cannot fault it; maybe the battery if anything.
Remain
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Screen will remain the same
Size will remain the same
Speakers will remain the same
Battery may / should get a bump
RAM will remain the same
Storage will remain the same
Connectivity will remain the same
Photochrom will be dropped entirely
Buffs / changes
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Price will see a bump
Charging speed will get a bump
Camera bump from 48 - 64MP
Front camera may get moved to centre or an additional one added, won't be a pop up.
CPU / GPU will be the + variant, honestly at this point it matters a lot less than it would have a few years back, the 865 standard is so powerful the bump to the + may be negligible unless they retain performance and really work on the stamina but I can't see it
Design of the phone may change slightly
New camera lens will take place of photochrom, perhaps fish eye or similar, is 3D still a thing.
On a personal note, I wouldn't get the 8T as I already have the 8, for you I would say; if the battery doesn't get a major bump then I'd go with the 8.
Plus the price will drop when the 8T is near it's launch or even announcement making it the obvious choice.
Then again, that's my opinion, it's up to you.
Also all the rumours at this point are just rumours, if you want a good idea of what the device will be like, look out for the next oppo flagship as it's usually a strong indicator of what will be next for OnePlus.
OnePlus bring a phone out every 6 months, however for the first time there is literally nothing that the CPU / GPU cannot run perfectly, there is no need for more speed now, strange territory, will be interesting to see if they keep buffing the performance or work on efficiency, the latter would be the logical choice but I guess time will tell.
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You convinced me ?
I won't upgrade my phone for probably 2-3 years if not even more but I was curious xD
Thanks

TheLegend975 said:
You convinced me
I won't upgrade my phone for probably 2-3 years if not even more but I was curious xD
Thanks
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hahaha, sorry man.
for me finding the sweet spot is a challenge, tbh the Oneplus 8 Pro ticks so many boxes it's an absolute first in my experience, it's just the battery i'd buff if i could.
But lol each to their own

dladz said:
hahaha, sorry man.
for me finding the sweet spot is a challenge, tbh the Oneplus 8 Pro ticks so many boxes it's an absolute first in my experience, it's just the battery i'd buff if i could.
But lol each to their own
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Indeed brother, I also loved the 8pro it's amazing but yeah the battery isn't bad but not the best, I easily get 7h SOT with a good usage and QHD + 120Hz.
The latest update (10.5.13) is good and made the phone sightly smoother so there's still hope for future battery and performance updates xD

TheLegend975 said:
Indeed brother, I also loved the 8pro it's amazing but yeah the battery isn't bad but not the best, I easily get 7h SOT with a good usage and QHD + 120Hz.
The latest update (10.5.13) is good and made the phone sightly smoother so there's still hope for future battery and performance updates xD
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I'm just about to unlock and root, this is the longest I've been without unlocking a phone.
Strangely I managed 9 hours yesterday and I wasn't trying so if I'm debloating and or lightening the load can help then I'll be happy with that, plus future updates.

dladz said:
I'm just about to unlock and root, this is the longest I've been without unlocking a phone.
Strangely I managed 9 hours yesterday and I wasn't trying so if I'm debloating and or lightening the load can help then I'll be happy with that, plus future updates.
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Nice, I always say stock is better but just can't satisfy myself being unrooted ?
I'm rooted and using a custom kernel and getting 7h SOT max with a normal usage. I feel like I could get better with stock but simply want to use a couple of things that require root.
When you root and use a kernel that you think is good, please tell me in PM, I appreciate it, thanks.

TheLegend975 said:
Nice, I always say stock is better but just can't satisfy myself being unrooted ?
I'm rooted and using a custom kernel and getting 7h SOT max with a normal usage. I feel like I could get better with stock but simply want to use a couple of things that require root.
When you root and use a kernel that you think is good, please tell me in PM, I appreciate it, thanks.
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I'll always stick with stick kernel, least for now.
Currently testing xXx which is just as I remember it.
Quite impressed that so much can be achieved via a Magisk module Vs a ROM.
If I do jump on kernels I'll give up your a shout how I get on

dladz said:
I'll always stick with stick kernel, least for now.
Currently testing xXx which is just as I remember it.
Quite impressed that so much can be achieved via a Magisk module Vs a ROM.
If I do jump on kernels I'll give up your a shout how I get on
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Thanks brother ?