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So, LG opened pre-orders for the G5 in Indonesia earlier this week. First big mistake: taking too long to release the phone. The S7's been out since March 25.
Second mistake: The G5 here is the SE variant, model number H845. The SD652 has smooth CPU performance, but reportedly struggles with graphics-intensive tasks, and is a high-tier, but not flagship chip, AT best.
Third mistake: the G5 is launching here merely 300,000 IDR (~21USD) cheaper than the S7 at off-contract prices (~586 USD), which is just expensive for an LG flagship. I know plenty of people who've bought LGs in the past because of their affordable pricesm, but that ain't happening this time around. As points to compare, the G4 launched at ~623 USD, but had so many pre-order discounts, bonuses and rebates that a friend of mine secured one at ~490 USD at launch, while my dad bought the G2 at ~500 USD a week after it launched. Both of these people have told me they bought an LG over Samsung simply because the price was cheaper. Not because the LG was a better phone (which was arguably true back during the G2 days).
Last year, LG also had the unique advantage of shipping the first dual SIM flagship on the market (Indonesians go nuts over dual SIM phones because no single provider has great coverage: one comes close; it's the one I use; but they all have plenty of room for improvement), and the benefit of shipping with microSD support when Samsung had just dropped it. Samsung now has both on its S7 (not both at the same time though, not sure about LG)
Now, the general consensus is that the S7 is far and away the better phone. The G5 (SE) is shipping two months late with an inferior chipset and none of the advantages the G4 had, which already didn't do that well. All LG has is a slightly better camera, removable battery and a minor price advantage to back it up, while Samsung has name recognition, better battery life, IP68 water resistance, the most powerful mobile chip on the market, much wider availability than LG does, the support of the nation's largest carrier, a huge advertising budget and not to mention trade-up events that rack up huge lines and press coverage every so often, keeping people locked into its ecosystem. LG also had the advantage of getting Marshmallow out the door earlier than Samsung, but that's likely not gonna happen this year with it being the less widely-released SE model. Had LG at least come out with the SD820 model at the same price, my tune may have been different, but not so.
It's not that I'm hating on LG. I love the company - my first Android phone and tablet were BOTH LG-made, and I think the V10 was the best Android smartphone you could buy last year. I'm also looking forward to that phone's successor. But LG's Indonesian arm better prepare for a disappointment.
Sorry to hear that but maybe don't pull the trigger yet. LG included freebies with LG G5 in various regions, such as Cam Plus module, extra battery / cradle kit, etc. You've waited this long already. I upgraded all my family phones to LG G5, I probably would have gone with a LG G5 SE, if there was some good reasonable cost savings.
futures said:
Sorry to hear that but maybe don't pull the trigger yet. LG included freebies with LG G5 in various regions, such as Cam Plus module, extra battery / cradle kit, etc. You've waited this long already. I upgraded all my family phones to LG G5, I probably would have gone with a LG G5 SE, if there was some good reasonable cost savings.
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Oh I didnt wait. I pulled the trigger on the S7 in March, (correctly) assuming the G5 would cost less and that if it was the better phone, I could sell the S7 and get the G5 for only a minor extra price. That price, while a little higher than I expected, would've been OK had it shipped with the 820.
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Second mistake: The G5 here is the SE variant, model number H845. The SD652 has smooth CPU performance, but reportedly struggles with graphics-intensive tasks, and is a high-tier, but not flagship chip, AT best.
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Is that the final story though, you only get the H845 ?
Wait some, they may release the H860 after which is what you want.
Samsung now has both on its S7 (not both at the same time though, not sure about LG)
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The indian one is a hybrid slot, meaning either dual sim or one sim +microsd. Not as good as the G4.
This hybrid business seems to be the new trend these days. Hate how they minus things
I am very excited to order a new Moto G4 Plus, it will be a replacement for my One Plus X which was stolen about 6 weeks ago.
Amazon UK have the following listing:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB Dual SIM-Free Smartphone - White - Exclusive to Amazon for £199 (€221/$248)
The Dual SIM would be useful for my work number, but not at the price of a white phone!
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
Otherwise I was thinking of ordering this model:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB SIM-Free Smartphone - Black (Single SIM) - (Exclusive to Amazon) for £199
Unless there are issues with heat or performance with that model and I should consider a 3GB RAM model instead? I have a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD card so I thought I could get by with 16GB of on board memory...
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Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
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That's correct.
dusf said:
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black
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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black
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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?
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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?
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I just read on another page:
Dual SIM standard on all Moto Maker Moto G4 Plus handsets.
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This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Frances91 said:
This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Oh, I had thought the heat issues were resolved!
I actually ordered a few days go, Motorola's website told me so, but then sent me an email saying it was cancelled. I queried this with support and they told me it was because my bank declined the transfer, but I spoke with my bank and they said Motorola never tried to take the money!
I just ordered again about an hour ago...
What phone would you recommend instead? I was pretty set on the Moto G4 Plus
Why don't get a Note 7 instead.
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Why don't get a Note 7 instead.
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I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.
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And why not shoot yourself in the foot at the same time? Do you not read the news? The Note 7 has had more issues than any phone in the history of smartphones. Samsung has lost over $2 billion due to Note 7 issues and recalls. Even the replacements for the original recalls have been pulled off the market. Avoid the Note 7 like the plague.
I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.
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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?
HE4VYCR0WN said:
You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?
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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.
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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.
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That was the laughing smiley for.
Okay, so it seems most would recommend their Moto G4 Plus.
Another 'Moto-maker' order cancelled by Motorola UK. After speaking with 3 technical support agents through their web based Live Chat, and being unable to get a clear answer from either one of them, I phoned and spoke with someone whose first language was actually English, and they explained the orders were cancelled because I was using a redirection service.
As I am in the Republic of Ireland I cannot order directly from Motorola UK, instead I tried using the same forwarder I always use for this kind of thing, but it is blacklsited by Motorola UK. Not sure what to do now, I really want a black dual SIM 32GB G4 Plus, but I do not want to pay Amazon an extra £39 for the privilege! It would be a real shame if I had to instead opt for the black single sim 16GB model from Amazon.
I am not sure what to do now, perhaps see if any family have friends in the UK that would manually forward it.
Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you'd already ordered for one, could have toned down the bad stuff I've had to say.
I guess, having shopped around a bit, doesn't look like there's much to choose from if I were to get a different phone, besides to be more honest my budget won't allow an upgrade just as yet. So guess I'll live with it for now and while my time away installing and uninstalling programs to squeeze out whatever good I can from my Moto G4 Plus.
And yes, majority moto g4 owners do seem to be swearing by their phones, that should ideally suffice to join their lot, besides making it worth buying considering there's going to be no dearth of dedicated forums and communities and such.
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FWIW, there are things I'd like to see like NFC, a magnetic compass and water repellent like the G3 but all in all it's a pretty solid phone for the price. Oh yea, it doesn't have the built-in heater like some Samsung phones but I can live without that.
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The G6 goes on pre-order in India, starting Monday. http://www.lg.com/in/lgg6
While this one comes with 64GB onboard storage, there is no mention of the Quad DAC. However, couple of local news sources do refer to the Quad DAC.
Does anyone know for sure if the G6 sold in India comes with the Quad DAC or not?
I have the LG V20. Thinking of selling it off and upgrading to the G6. Will come as a rude shock to find out later that the DAC is missing from the G6!
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The G6 goes on pre-order in India, starting Monday. http://www.lg.com/in/lgg6
While this one comes with 64GB onboard storage, there is no mention of the Quad DAC. However, couple of local news sources do refer to the Quad DAC.
Does anyone know for sure if the G6 sold in India comes with the Quad DAC or not?
I have the LG V20. Thinking of selling it off and upgrading to the G6. Will come as a rude shock to find out later that the DAC is missing from the G6!
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I'm trying to figure the same. Apparent the Hi-Fi recording that they have mentioned should also include Quad DAC. But you never know... It's sad to see wireless charging and DAC missing.
Seems the Indian version comes with the Quad DAC and 64GB onboard memory. Not bad!
http://www.amazon.in/forum/-/Tx1WEOWKYBDRZHN/ref=ask_dp_dpmw_al_hza?asin=B071XSN6T4
Bought one, Ice platinum version...don't want any fingerprints on this baby.
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Bought one, Ice platinum version...don't want any fingerprints on this baby.
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Congrats! I was waiting for the exchange offer, so that I could upgrade from the LG V20. That offer went online today, but the max discount is only Rs 7k. In contrast, when the V20 launched in India in December 2016, I got Rs 17.5k off when I exchanged it for my old Note 4.
Guess I will be holding on to the V20 till the G6 pricing hits the 35k mark, which is what happens with LG flagship phones 5-6 months after release.
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Congrats! I was waiting for the exchange offer, so that I could upgrade from the LG V20. That offer went online today, but the max discount is only Rs 7k. In contrast, when the V20 launched in India in December 2016, I got Rs 17.5k off when I exchanged it for my old Note 4.
Guess I will be holding on to the V20 till the G6 pricing hits the 35k mark, which is what happens with LG flagship phones 5-6 months after release.
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You could get up to Rs. 23k on cashify.in for your V20 now or you could wait till V30 releases later this year with Snapdragon 835.
I was disappointed with the bootloop on my V10. Checked in the LG service center, they told me it would cost Rs. 16k for motherboard replacement with warranty of only 3 months. I'll probably replace it on my own with an aftermarket motherboard from aliexpress.
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It is funny how they named it "FullVision" in India
run4jit said:
Bought one, Ice platinum version...don't want any fingerprints on this baby.
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Does the side of the box list the model number and what bands are supported by the Indian version? If so, could you list them? Thanks!
Adrift98 said:
Does the side of the box list the model number and what bands are supported by the Indian version? If so, could you list them? Thanks!
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It will be delivered to me tomorrow. The model number LGH870DS is already listed here.
Supported bands are listed here.
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It will be delivered to me tomorrow. The model number LGH870DS is already listed here.
Supported bands are listed here.
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Ok, that confirms some of my thoughts. Basically this is the Russian/Ukrainian/Hong Kong model. Thanks.
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You could get up to Rs. 23k on cashify.in for your V20 now or you could wait till V30 releases later this year with Snapdragon 835.
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Thanks a ton for the tip! Just sold my S7 Edge on it for 28.5k (which is impressive, since the nearby mobile shops were quoting 23-25k).
And, after agonizing over it for couple of days, I decided to buy the S8+ instead of the G6 -- it also supports 32-bit audio and DSD format. Will sell the LG V20 as soon as I get delivery.
My big disappointment with LG is lack of support, even for their flagship phones. I paid 55k for the V20, and I don't think it is too much to expect at least monthly security patches. The last update I got for the phone was early Jan. Nothing after that.
But yes, will certainly wait for the LG V30... unless the Note 8 is so great, that it leaves me too broke to even think of buying the V30!
EDIT: Here's a good discussion on the DAC in the G6, along with how it compares to the V20 DAC -- https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/lg-g6-sound-quality.833180/
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Thanks a ton for the tip! Just sold my S7 Edge on it for 28.5k (which is impressive, since the nearby mobile shops were quoting 23-25k).
And, after agonizing over it for couple of days, I decided to buy the S8+ instead of the G6 -- it also supports 32-bit audio and DSD format. Will sell the LG V20 as soon as I get delivery.
My big disappointment with LG is lack of support, even for their flagship phones. I paid 55k for the V20, and I don't think it is too much to expect at least monthly security patches. The last update I got for the phone was early Jan. Nothing after that.
But yes, will certainly wait for the LG V30... unless the Note 8 is so great, that it leaves me too broke to even think of buying the V30!
EDIT: Here's a good discussion on the DAC in the G6, along with how it compares to the V20 DAC -- https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/lg-g6-sound-quality.833180/
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Awesome! :good:
Hey guys! Don't kill me for asking all these questions, but..
I'm currently using a Nexus 5x, but it's gone bad (Melts chargers, usb data connection melted, etc)
I'm really interested in the Moto G5 Plus, but, I'm having difficulties finding it in person, so i intend to order one online!
So my questions go:
I have only seen two varients, a 32GB-2GB, and a 64GB-4GB. Is this it? Are they all "Potter" And will work with this rom?
Is the bootloader difficult to unlock? i see some kind of scrubber and pasting of data on a website i found.. seems kinda simple but i wanna be sure ♥
Is it safe to buy one on Amazon? The 32GB Variant is currently on sale. Is it safe to use the "Moto Maker"?
I see "DTV for XT1683 model" is broken. What is "DTV" and which model is XT1683?
Thanks for your consideration! ♥
EDIT: Too late, bought the 64GB Varient from Amazon. Wish me luck!
I just picked one up for my wife and have been pleasantly surprised. Of course we are coming from 3 yr old phones, so anything is an upgrade. Having the finger print reader, fast charge, adequate camera (certainly better than the LG G3 camera), unlockable boot loader, etc all for $180 for the non ad 32gb version I feel it is an incredible bargain.
I hope you got the non-ad version from Amazon as you cannot unlock the boot loader on the ad version. That is the only issue to watch out for. You can get rid of the ads on the ad version, but there is currently isn't a method to unlock the boot loader (and likely never will be).
Enjoy!
Bunie89 said:
EDIT: Too late, bought the 64GB Varient from Amazon. Wish me luck!
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Which G5 Plus did you buy? The cheaper Amazon subsidized version or the slightly more expensive non amazon subsidized version?
If you bought the Amazon subsidized version just note that the root process will likely be different than the non subsidized version. See this link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/resolved-root-moto-g5-plus-amazon-t3652932
Its a good phone with one or two issues however. Moto is apparently rolling out today a potential fix (see this post in their support subforums) for the poor/garbled audio on Verizon, no word yet if it works or if it fixes any of the other issues (like low volume on headset) the phone has.
On the edge of buying? Thinking that this is a lot of performance for $300? So what is anybody thinking ? would this be a good deal coming from a V 20 that the screen is starting to come off. so I have to start looking for something to replace it.
It does appear that the development has just about stalled out because of the locked bootloaders.
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On the edge of buying? Thinking that this is a lot of performance for $300? So what is anybody thinking ? would this be a good deal coming from a V 20 that the screen is starting to come off. so I have to start looking for something to replace it.
It does appear that the development has just about stalled out because of the locked bootloaders.
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All LG V30 in the world have bootloader unlock, root and TWRP. You can buy mint on eBay for $165 - $170 right now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10-/183795406681
If you don't need T-Mobile variant specifically (you are not a T-Mobile customer), then the LS998 V30+ or US998 V30+ are the two best choices for North America users.
See here:
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Hi, I've had my V20 for a couple of years and wondering if the V30 would be a worthwhile upgrade from it? I have been looking at prices and they are relatively cheap compared to a new 2019 phone.
I would only use it with an AOSP rom as I don't like the LG software. Some of the things I don't like about the V20:
-Crappy battery life , never had more than 2-3 sot
-Speaker output is very low
-Gets hotter than hell
-Slow and sluggish even with h custom ROMs
I would get the H932 version as I have T-Mobile. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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It was worth coming to when released in 2017. But even more in 2019 now that DTS 3D stereo framework has been added. If you specifically need the T-mobile branded variant, look for the T-mobile H932 V30+ (128GB). There are a few out there. T-mobile sold them for a limited time before only selling the H932 V30 (64GB).
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (need root)
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
* fantastic battery
Be sure to ready this sticky first about rooting. your V30/V30+/V30S. It also covers some information about AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs.
Thanks for all that info.
I was following the v35 thread to see how it was progressing and I'd like the ram and the newer processor but it looks like the V 30 to be able to perform brain surgery on it is way more desirable a h?
I put two offers in yesterday on two different sites for the v35 unlocked new gray and they had him listed at 3:45 and I offered 299 and both of them maybe fortunately were rejected?
So I better dig deeper into the V 30.
Thanks again for your input.
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Thanks for all that info.
I was following the v35 thread to see how it was progressing and I'd like the ram and the newer processor but it looks like the V 30 to be able to perform brain surgery on it is way more desirable a h?
I put two offers in yesterday on two different sites for the v35 unlocked new gray and they had him listed at 3:45 and I offered 299 and both of them maybe fortunately were rejected?
So I better dig deeper into the V 30.
Thanks again for your input.
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Sure. Read the XDA forum links above.
I've used this seller a few times:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10-/183795406681
Thanks for the link, I was also looking have a supplier that had new unlocked with the 128 storage 4 248.
I was wanting to make a couple comments back to you but got reading a couple links and I feel like you were holding out on us I'm really excited to see what I read. And you were commenting on that thread also it's on the the v30 thread and it's from page 157 on the high possibility of Brian/ running naked being able to unlock the bootloader !
So I'll give this link and I'm wondering for other people with the v35 I would think that this information would give them some pretty big hope?
For those that want to take a look go to the end of the thread and it's page 156+157 and read those pages for some promising news!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-h932-lafploit-1-5-to-v20a-t3842550/page157
Page 156
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79728752&postcount=1560
Now I have V30 Verizon version, and I'm waiting for V35 to compare it. V30 is great phone, only small issue which I found, that V30 has small freezes on my videos from gopro hero 6 black 4k/50fps 80mbps. And, as I read, cameras on V30 and V35 are different.
So I was on the fence but as I am seeing a little action with this phone I am now waiting to find a deal on a new v 35 unlocked I've got one location that it's right at 33999 and I waited the other day there was a eBay bucks at 13% and I was still on the fence but I'm ready to purchase it now but I'm hoping for some kind of deal? Anybody know where there's a nice gray one new unlocked 4 a good number?
I'm going to add a link to a post I just made that shows Pie is being distributed for the v35 AT&t.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79758521&postcount=81
2 months ago I made an offer on one of the eBay sellers to purchase new unlocked AT&t v35 4 $300.
I also made an offer to another seller of the same phone for the purchase price of 27999 and both of them rejected the offer said the price they have is what they're sticking with. So here we are two months later as prices were coming down a little bit the one that I had offered 27999 had dropped his price down to 27999 so I went ahead and bit. Screen protector case all toll I'm in for 291.
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So I was on the fence but as I am seeing a little action with this phone I am now waiting to find a deal on a new v 35 unlocked I've got one location that it's right at 33999 and I waited the other day there was a eBay bucks at 13% and I was still on the fence but I'm ready to purchase it now but I'm hoping for some kind of deal? Anybody know where there's a nice gray one new unlocked 4 a good number?
I'm going to add a link to a post I just made that shows Pie is being distributed for the v35 AT&t.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79758521&postcount=81
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EDIT: eBay coupon not site wide like previous holiday coupons. Sorry.
ChazzMatt said:
eBay has 15% off deal through end of July 3, 2019. Code: JULY4FUN
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Ouch I knew the discount was coming but I didn't think the inventory would last, it was showing down to the last phone so I went ahead and pulled the trigger.
That's a good discount that would have put icing on the cake.
I have to go back and check cuz I thought I checked all the sites and now I feel better cuz I did see that deal the seller I was dealing with wasn't on the list.
"required from eligible items sold by the Seller(s) listed below. "
https://slickdeals.net/f/13181263-ebay-15-off-at-select-sellers-with-code-exp-7-3
Honestly i bought this phone 4 months ago for 290$.
yes price wise sounds like a great deal but camera is bad.
My Wifes HTC U11 and my Sisters Pixel 1 takes much better photos. I don't take many photos but when i needed to take one this camera was an embarrassment. I felt like i was using my old HTC M9.
pixel 2 are selling so cheap these days i would rather get that even though it has 835 and less ram.
Seller Cell2Go on amazon is selling unlocked V35 for $299. It comes in an original but open box, packed in all wraps that it is supposed to be packed, looks new to me. The only thing - there are no headphones (by design as there is no place for them in a box). Mine has manufacture date Sept 2018. Pretty cool phone, no regrets so far.
https://www.amazon.com/LG-ThinQ-Unl...reless&sr=1-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A2NTVDDW2IZZYQ