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hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
So far so good, Moto G is among the very first devices to receive KK 4.4.3
Lenovo isn't stupid, they know that much of Moto's appeal is fast updates. Cheap alone doesn't cut, there are 100s of cheap Chinese devices - but most of them never see updates.
For me, call quality is OK.
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So far so good
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Lenovo hasn't bought Motorola yet.
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Lenovo hasn't bought Motorola yet.
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Technicalities. For all practical purposes, yes they have.
As you can see in new launches, Moto E, Moto G 4G and the rumoured Moto X+1, all have MicroSD slots. No Nexus phone/tablet and original Moto G/X, all under Google, have the slot. Simply put, they want you to spend on Google Drive, and a MicroSD spoofs that.
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hrashdan said:
hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
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Summing up, Moto G is amazing. I bought for myself and my wife, and we are both loving it. The only downside, in my humble opinion, is the lack of a MicroSD slot.
Just be sure to buy the 16GB version, especially if you are into games/recording videos, as these will eat up space in no time.
When you put it like that, Lenovo buying Motorola isn't such a bad thing. Lenovo laptops(especially the ThinkPad line) are very good too. I still remember how the CEO Yang Yuanqing took his annual bonus and gave it to his workers. I am sad by this shift in owners because I really was hoping for more phones to be made(assembled) in the US for the jobs. Having written that, the US market has spoken when it came to the Moto X so here I am with my Moto X, knowing this phone is probably the last of its kind because the US market values the price and specs more than the experience and where it came from.
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Technicalities. For all practical purposes, yes they have.
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That is strange as they are still being managed by Google. Lenovo has no control or influence over Motorola at this point.
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When you put it like that, Lenovo buying Motorola isn't such a bad thing. Lenovo laptops(especially the ThinkPad line) are very good too. I still remember how the CEO Yang Yuanqing took his annual bonus and gave it to his workers. I am sad by this shift in owners because I really was hoping for more phones to be made(assembled) in the US for the jobs. Having written that, the US market has spoken when it came to the Moto X so here I am with my Moto X, knowing this phone is probably the last of its kind because the US market values the price and specs more than the experience and where it came from.
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Consumers seem to value price, specs, and most importantly brand. The only reason people buy Samsung phones is because, oh, Samsung! It's a popular brand!
It kinda sucks.
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Consumers seem to value price, specs, and most importantly brand. The only reason people buy Samsung phones is because, oh, Samsung! It's a popular brand!
It kinda sucks.
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I would qualify this as something more than just popular brand. I'd make your argument for Apple products though! With Samsung, I can list some qualitative features that distinguish Samsung from the rest: AMOLED, removable battery, microSD, no on-screen buttons, plastic build-quality?? I've read enough peoples' opinions to know that they want to move away from Samsung, but can't because no other brand offers what Samsung offers.
I hope that Motorola will move backward to the days of microSD and removable batteries(doubtful).
MicroSD is already back.
Brand is not exactly what most people want. They want bang per buck, usually. Sure, some people with cash to spare buy due to the brand.
As you mentioned, some Samssung features are hard to find in others. But most Android phones now have on screen buttons. So, how to be the best in class when most fellas are basically the same? Price.
Price alone won't cut in some cases - smartphones, for example. 1st time smartphone buyers may be seduced by dirt cheap, but after a while some other things become priorities. That's when you want the most bang per buck. And that's where the Moto G excels.
Great price for the specs, especially screen. Camera is not top of the line but will do for the majority of people, casual shooters. SoC not top of the line but very good for the average user. Battery is decent, telephony is OK. So, you have a very decent phone at a very good price. Add to that blazing fast updates, and you have a winner. For the majority of people, the phone is more than enough. Phones with simmilar SoC/RAM/internal storage are a lot costlier. Let alone the 720p screen, which even costlier rivals lack.
Sure, the removable battery is nice to have, as are wireless charging and NFC, but not mandatory. What really annoys me is the lack of MicroSD. You have to backup stuff often. Google will be happy if you use Drive for that, but in Brazil prices for mobile data are too high, and even landline internet is not that fast, so many people, including me, use the USB cable for that.
I'm not worried
hrashdan said:
hello ,I am thinking about buying moto g , but after lenovo bought motorola , i am afraid it will stop the support for motorola devices , is that true?
and will someone tell me about the call quality on the moto g? i heard it is bad
thanks
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I owned several thinkpads, both before and after Lenovo bought the brand from IBM. While I would say the quality and available technology had become more mainstream over the years, the high-quality service that was provided by IBM always remained. I had a motherboard replaced on my T400 when it was a month old. That was I believe the 3rd generation of Lenovo product.
I just replaced my old Motorola V60 phone on my voice-only line with a Moto G, partially because it will be one of the last pre-Lenovo phones and because my old phone was dying, but I have no worry that the phone will be supported at least as well as other brands mid-level phones and probably better than most.
Now, if Lenovo would just bring back quality slider phones under the Motorola name, I might be able to give up my blackberry as well.
thank you all , couldn't get better answers than these
Lenovo is a fairly new company compared to Moto But its already Number One in PCs and Number 3 in smart phones.... Lenovo is known for paying the highest salaries in the industry in China
Lenovo knows how to turn money bleeding companies into profit making ones in No time
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jaspreet997 said:
Lenovo is a fairly new company compared to Moto But its already Number One in PCs and Number 3 in smart phones.... Lenovo is known for paying the highest salaries in the industry in China
Lenovo knows how to turn money bleeding companies into profit making ones in No time
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Yep, I also have a Lenovo laptop, and I gotta say, the hardware build quality is incredible for the price (2 years later, battery still lasts 3 hours like when I first got it). The software made by Lenovo looks ancient, but works really efficient and has 0 impact on cpu and ram (by 0, I don't mean 0.01 or 0.1, I mean 0, ZERO)
I really hope to see the same quality on the mobile devices (well, this is exactly the description of the moto g stock rom)
Sorry for bumping the thread, just wanted to say this. [emoji85]
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I am very excited to order a new Moto G4 Plus, it will be a replacement for my One Plus X which was stolen about 6 weeks ago.
Amazon UK have the following listing:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB Dual SIM-Free Smartphone - White - Exclusive to Amazon for £199 (€221/$248)
The Dual SIM would be useful for my work number, but not at the price of a white phone!
Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
Otherwise I was thinking of ordering this model:
Motorola Moto G4 Plus 16GB SIM-Free Smartphone - Black (Single SIM) - (Exclusive to Amazon) for £199
Unless there are issues with heat or performance with that model and I should consider a 3GB RAM model instead? I have a 128GB Sandisk MicroSD card so I thought I could get by with 16GB of on board memory...
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Am I correct the Moto G4 Plus cannot be bought for that price dual SIM in black?
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That's correct.
dusf said:
If so would it be possible and cost effective to order that white dual SIM model and a black front and back bezel?
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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black
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The G4 Plus is available in black directly from Motorola for £229.00
www.motorola.co.uk/products/motomaker/FLEXR10UK?version=16MP32GB&front-color=color-black
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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?
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Thanks, I think I would pay the £30 for the bump from 16GB to 32GB, in black, and dual SIM. I do not see anywhere on that page it is dual SIM, are you absolutely certain it is?
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I just read on another page:
Dual SIM standard on all Moto Maker Moto G4 Plus handsets.
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This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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This may not be relevant considering the reasons you're upgrading from OPX, but given my few days experience with OPX you'd miss its fantastic OLED display on MOTO G. At the cost of sounding discouraging, being a current Moto G4 plus user I'd recommend considering another phone for your intended purpose of upgrading. This is based on my two month rigorous use and finding far too many issues with Moto G4 plus for its hype. For one, unless you aren't fond of dedicating a few hours each day flashing ROMs and tweaking settings or installing mods, heating-up and ghost touch issues, apart from Moto G's build and design are not easy to accept for the price you pay for this fourth moto G iteration which is far from its predecessors' in terms of quality and performance.
As for the memory, going from 16 to 32 gig is surely worthwhile though only if there weren't other 32Gig phones out there offering better performance at prolly more competent prices.
Sorry if I sound sore, but couldn't help being honest with what I've learned from buying this phone.
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Oh, I had thought the heat issues were resolved!
I actually ordered a few days go, Motorola's website told me so, but then sent me an email saying it was cancelled. I queried this with support and they told me it was because my bank declined the transfer, but I spoke with my bank and they said Motorola never tried to take the money!
I just ordered again about an hour ago...
What phone would you recommend instead? I was pretty set on the Moto G4 Plus
Why don't get a Note 7 instead.
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Why don't get a Note 7 instead.
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I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.
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And why not shoot yourself in the foot at the same time? Do you not read the news? The Note 7 has had more issues than any phone in the history of smartphones. Samsung has lost over $2 billion due to Note 7 issues and recalls. Even the replacements for the original recalls have been pulled off the market. Avoid the Note 7 like the plague.
I don't have a G4 Plus but I do have a G4 XT1625. It blows my previous Moto G2 out of the water in performance, battery life and reliability. No major issues at all on stock or with the custom ROM I now use. I have been using it for about two months and couldn't be happier with it.
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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?
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You know what irony and sarcasm is, right?
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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.
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Okay, I missed that. But he was asking for serious advice so I guess I didn't expect it. Just sayin'.
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That was the laughing smiley for.
Okay, so it seems most would recommend their Moto G4 Plus.
Another 'Moto-maker' order cancelled by Motorola UK. After speaking with 3 technical support agents through their web based Live Chat, and being unable to get a clear answer from either one of them, I phoned and spoke with someone whose first language was actually English, and they explained the orders were cancelled because I was using a redirection service.
As I am in the Republic of Ireland I cannot order directly from Motorola UK, instead I tried using the same forwarder I always use for this kind of thing, but it is blacklsited by Motorola UK. Not sure what to do now, I really want a black dual SIM 32GB G4 Plus, but I do not want to pay Amazon an extra £39 for the privilege! It would be a real shame if I had to instead opt for the black single sim 16GB model from Amazon.
I am not sure what to do now, perhaps see if any family have friends in the UK that would manually forward it.
Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you'd already ordered for one, could have toned down the bad stuff I've had to say.
I guess, having shopped around a bit, doesn't look like there's much to choose from if I were to get a different phone, besides to be more honest my budget won't allow an upgrade just as yet. So guess I'll live with it for now and while my time away installing and uninstalling programs to squeeze out whatever good I can from my Moto G4 Plus.
And yes, majority moto g4 owners do seem to be swearing by their phones, that should ideally suffice to join their lot, besides making it worth buying considering there's going to be no dearth of dedicated forums and communities and such.
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FWIW, there are things I'd like to see like NFC, a magnetic compass and water repellent like the G3 but all in all it's a pretty solid phone for the price. Oh yea, it doesn't have the built-in heater like some Samsung phones but I can live without that.
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I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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imo, if you can help it, stay away from Motorola. They've been really shoddy about updates for all their phones, including the G4. There have also been issues regarding ghost touches/screen failures, but nearly every phone has its share of issues and the G4 is not unique in this regard.
If you plan to root/ROM your phone, the G4 is not a bad choice as there are a variety of ROMs to choose from, as well as decent support.
Even if you do purchase a G4+, don't spend more than $200 USD on it. Any more than $200, and you can get vastly better phones such as the Nexus 5X, Xiaomi Redmi Note 3/4, and the Huawei Honor 6X.
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thanks for your valuable remarks
electronode said:
Umm I Have Both Moto G3 and G4 Plus ( Die Hard Moto Fanboy Had a G2 Too ) I Feel Moto is Losing There Unique Design Language That Made It Standout from Chinese Brands and Also G4+ Has A Lot on Heating Issues ( Worse than It Sounds ) and Depending on What Type Of Phone You Get (its a Lottery) You are Gonna Face Burn-in or Ghost Touch Issues So If You Are Into Custom ROMs Than I Would Suggest Buy G3 Instead Of G4+ Its Not Worth It Development Is Equally Good if Not Better and If You Do End Up Buying a G4+ Make Sure to Protect That Camera Lens Gets Scratched Up Too Easily
Otherwise Miso (RN4) Does Exists
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thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
Plabon7 said:
thanks for you vast info. i was really unknown to those issues. thanks again. i'll go for nexus 5x then.
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Well, don't forget that the Nexus 5X also has the bootloop issue.
If you want to root and ROM, I heartily recommend the 2015 X/X Pure if you can afford it. Or the OnePlus 2.
But, if you're going to stay on stock, get a Nokia 6 (or whatever other phones they have). Stock Android with super fast updates.
My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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Redmi note 4x(Snapdragon ) except bootloader unlocking is difficult to somebody ( not for me), definitely better than g4plus.I had both ,but as per development and MIUI , Redmi note 4x is my choice for your budget.
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but as far as i know note 4x does not have a good camera.
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My previous phone was an iPhone 4. I am very happy with my G4+ and they can be had for a $200 for the 64GB model. There are many well supported ROMs to choose from. Most OEM update support sucks...a friend of mine dropped $700 on his Galaxy S7 and is in 7.0 with the February security patch. Due to fantastic developer (thank you OAdam11 for Tesla) support, I am running 7.1.2 with the May 5 security update. I would recommend it.
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heating issue?
I have had no issues with excessive heating or screen burn in personally.
Plabon7 said:
I am currently moto g2 user. and since using moto phones I can't buy any other phone but moto. as my budget is very low. So, i was thinking to buy moto g4+ that suits my budget. so should i go for it?
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I bought a second hand one for gps use last month and ended up using it as my primary device. I also have a Moto x play and kumia (pointless). I bought it for 140usd - 9000inr. The back camera lens is scratched a bit but there is no other issue. Photos are clear though. The phone is very nice and it doesn't heat up for me as many people say. Gets fully charged in 1.25 hours. I don't play games so for other use it works awesome.
It is way better than Moto x play which I bought when it released. The camera is good. That can be also an option for you . Or, you can go for Nexus 5x. Price dropped and you can also find a second sale phone for less than 150. If you are so Keen about the quality buy a scratched phone for low price, replace the case housing. It's new.
I have a lumia 640xl which I refurbished under 100usd. It still works charm..
Go for it mate...
I know it's been several months since someone posted something here, but I'm curious to know your opinion on this...
I have just purchased an used Moto G4 Plus XT1644 4GB + 64GB yesterday at B&H Photo in excellent condition (10 out of 10), at least that's how they described it, for $138.50 shipped. It's arriving on Thursday.
I was not aware of its many issues like, heating issues, screen burn in / ghost touches and so on... So now I'm kinda worried about my decision...
My wife had an iPhone 6 and I converted her to a Moto G5 Plus about 3 to 4 months ago. She's very happy with the phone.
I only went with the G4 Plus because of the extra RAM, plenty storage space, external SD card reader and larger screen compared to the G5 Plus (*for the price I paid*). Most importantly, I bought the G4 Plus because it has ElementalX kernel, official Lineage OS support and TWRP as well. The combination of these three kept my Nexus 5 going for 3+ years before it gave up on me a few months ago.
My N5 still works but it randomly shuts down and reboots when using demanding tasks like taking photos or when it heats up. As long as I can keep it frozen (out of the freezer - literally) it works just fine though.
I've been using a crappy $60 Amazon Prime Exclusive phone, the Blu R1 HD on stock Marshmallow + Magisk / Xposed / Gravity Box / N-ify. Performance is fine considering what I paid for it. Thanks to the infamous fire.apk that plagued the R1 HD for months, I managed to get a full refund for that phone today. So I've got a free phone with malware basically.
I really wanted a 5.5" to 6" phone with good dev support on the cheap but as you know, both the G5 Plus / G5S Plus have a smaller 5.2" and very little dev support (compared to the G4 Plus) and they cost quite a bit more.
So I went with lower price, better dev support and slightly bigger screen on the G4 Plus.
What do you guys think?
Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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I just looked at that link, and discovered that the s8 only has quick charge 2.0 and not 3.0. And the s8 has a worse battery so if you don't go with the larger one you'll have worse battery life.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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What?! Surely that must be a typo? Why would it only have QC 2.0?
Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Here is what it says on the samsung website: (see attachment)
Also you get McAfee
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=8161&idPhone2=8067
Dude it's barely any different. Unless you have a wad of cash burning a hole in your pocket, it's a stupid move.
I'll never understand people who pay an absurd amount per month on a phone plan when you could just outright buy a phone and it pays for itself in less than six months by paying for a reasonable plan. I pay $30 a month. I have 5gb of 4gLTE data.
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I pay $50 a month for unlimited 4G LTE data. I average anywhere between 25-30GB of data usage every month.
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I have to agree with TPMJB, I think it would be a bad move. There was a nice offer to get a S8 on Amazon, but the differences are against the S8. The A7 has such a greater sound, greater battery, already a great screen, its CPU and GPU are more than enough for any game (but I don't play), 4GB RAM is also more than enough, ...
Why spending more to get less or something that's not yet needed?
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Benefits I can see
-Snapdragon 835 vs 820
-Newer Adreno for GPU
-Bluetooth 5.0 vs 4.2
-Slightly more pixels.
That's about it.
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Plus your losing speakers and a fully paid off phone.
Edit: And custom rom support (that isn't stock-based) so you're stuck with "samsung experience"
Edit 2: wait it's going to be at&t so no custom roms at all AND you pay double the money
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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but is there really a snapdragon gap? I mean, is our snappy already a has been? Serious question, not trying to start a flame war or anything
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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Just got notice Friday night, that I'm eligible for a device upgrade on my At&t plan.....Since then, all's I've thought about was a Galaxy S8! It also doesn't help that 3 people at work and my brother-in-law all recently picked up the S8 and I've help them get them set up... These are seriously some nice looking phones!
There's several reason's I'm thinking of switching....But I'm seriously considering it?!?!
Am I crazy?
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I was on the same boat until I had it physically on my and hand, and the design is sexy af, but honestly, that's all. I have always been away from Samsung devices because I hate capacitive buttons, and when Huawei (favorite brand) started to put them, I started to look for something else, and Samsung made the contrary move by remove them and improve the design.
Screen is more less the same, and you have to know that battery is noticeable worse when using the device in full resolution, because they come with FHD as default and most of the tests about battery were done with this resolution.
Speaker is average, but is mono. Is a big dealbreaker for me, because no point in having that nice display when you have a mono speaker, is just ruins the multimedia experience.
And the final thing for me to make me pass for the S8 was the fingerprint scanner, next to the camera is the most retarded place to put it, so pretty much is unusable for me.
Price is not important for me, fortunately I can buy any device I want, and I was going to buy the S8 until I had it on my hand. Also I was considering the P10 Plus, mostly because of the camera, but that capacitive button is just not that nice and gestures don't work correctly. I was playing like 10 minutes with it, and gestures were all buggy and not intuitive. Before that, I also had the Mate 9, but I returned it and came back to the Axon 7 because of the screen and sound, even when camera was slightly better.
In conclusion, I won't be changing the Axon 7 until I see a real contender to it. Real stereo speakers, nice battery, good display and decent camera are enough for me, which none of the devices released in 2107 have. In my opinion, exchanging the multimedia experience for a "better" design is not the best move to do.
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I said "any" gap. I was just addressing the points listed. Where the Snapdragon 835 is different is allowing much faster carrier speeds (eventually), like 1GB LTE. Not that you'll see that any time soon. So, there's no rush to buy Snapdragon 835 phones until your carriers can deliver the speeds... But yes, the Snapdragon 835 and comparable (like Exynos) are an evolutionary step forward.
My point was, don't jump for the Galaxy S8 when there's LOTS more phones coming out in the next few months that will also have Snapdragon 835 and will be better than the S8, and probably less expensive. Including, but not least the ZTE Axon 8.
I still have a 2014 Snapdragon 805 phone. I'm not buying another phone until a manufacturer released a phone that has all the features I want, or very close to it. The ZTE Axon 7 came very close -- only the lack of Qi wireless charging kept me from buying it.
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what I meant is that there is not really a gap, it's not like the 820 is so slow already that one NEEDS a 835. A real gap is something like a a notebook with an Atom and a real laptop with a Pentium or a Core.
So the S8 has a faster processor but not needed by any application around.
Beside, I've read so many times that the S8 screen is very fragile. One drop and...
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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Must be a good friend of Mase thats why, so unfortunate...
freeza said:
What are you tempted by? The stupid price? Locked bootloader? No root? Red tinted display? Random reboots? Subpar battery life? Fast charging not working while the display is on? Bloat? Lag? Lack of updates? Lower Android version than what the Axon is currently on? help me understand this temptation.
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My boy chrih steps into the ring and immediately delivers a knockout blow early into the first round.
LG V20 here, Samsung sucks. Don't buy any of their phones unless you want a bloated piece of **** that'll run like ass after a few weeks of usage and break more than iPhones.
ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 8 will be released in 2-3 months and will address any Snapdragon gap, plus keep lower price and stereo speakers.
Plus with a paid off phone you can go pre-paid on major carriers. I pay $38.25 total monthly with no taxes/fees on AT&T (GoPhone, AT&T's in-house prepaid brand) for 6GB high speed data/unlimited calls/unlimited texts.
You can tell that's "pure" AT&T by the low ping speeds. MVNOs have higher ping speeds (higher lag).
But I bring my own phone, so I can get the pre-paid prices. I will never be "post paid" customer" where they rip you off.
I also make sure any phone I own can be rooted and have custom ROMs.
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The only thing the S8 has the ZTE Axon 7 lacks is the Qi wireless charging. Other than that, the 1-year old ZTE Axon 7 still beats the Samsung Galaxy 8 in every significant way (award winning DAC, front facing stereo speakers), etc.
If I were to get an S8, I would make sure it was the Exynos variant that could be rooted, surely NOT the AT&T branded model!
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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Will the Axon 8 be released soon? I thought they were going to release an Axon 7S or something like that. Slightly upgraded Axon 7 (more ram, I think and slightly better snapdragon)
Edit: It's the Axon 7S, not the 8. There's not much difference between the 7 and the 7s
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There will be an Axon 8. The 7S is just an update for China, with Snadragon 821. It probably won't be released to other countries.
The AXON 7 was announced end of May last year, released in June. The previous flagship (2015) was middle of summer (announced July, released August). With the Snapdragon 835 situation could be June/July.
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As far as I know, the Axon 8 will be the same device as the Axon 7S, and they will just change the name for international market.
It seems the real change maybe will come next year when they released the Gigabyte phone the showed earlier this year.
On the edge of buying? Thinking that this is a lot of performance for $300? So what is anybody thinking ? would this be a good deal coming from a V 20 that the screen is starting to come off. so I have to start looking for something to replace it.
It does appear that the development has just about stalled out because of the locked bootloaders.
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On the edge of buying? Thinking that this is a lot of performance for $300? So what is anybody thinking ? would this be a good deal coming from a V 20 that the screen is starting to come off. so I have to start looking for something to replace it.
It does appear that the development has just about stalled out because of the locked bootloaders.
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All LG V30 in the world have bootloader unlock, root and TWRP. You can buy mint on eBay for $165 - $170 right now:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10-/183795406681
If you don't need T-Mobile variant specifically (you are not a T-Mobile customer), then the LS998 V30+ or US998 V30+ are the two best choices for North America users.
See here:
bigcletus said:
Hi, I've had my V20 for a couple of years and wondering if the V30 would be a worthwhile upgrade from it? I have been looking at prices and they are relatively cheap compared to a new 2019 phone.
I would only use it with an AOSP rom as I don't like the LG software. Some of the things I don't like about the V20:
-Crappy battery life , never had more than 2-3 sot
-Speaker output is very low
-Gets hotter than hell
-Slow and sluggish even with h custom ROMs
I would get the H932 version as I have T-Mobile. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
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It was worth coming to when released in 2017. But even more in 2019 now that DTS 3D stereo framework has been added. If you specifically need the T-mobile branded variant, look for the T-mobile H932 V30+ (128GB). There are a few out there. T-mobile sold them for a limited time before only selling the H932 V30 (64GB).
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo (need root)
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
* fantastic battery
Be sure to ready this sticky first about rooting. your V30/V30+/V30S. It also covers some information about AOSP/Lineage custom ROMs.
Thanks for all that info.
I was following the v35 thread to see how it was progressing and I'd like the ram and the newer processor but it looks like the V 30 to be able to perform brain surgery on it is way more desirable a h?
I put two offers in yesterday on two different sites for the v35 unlocked new gray and they had him listed at 3:45 and I offered 299 and both of them maybe fortunately were rejected?
So I better dig deeper into the V 30.
Thanks again for your input.
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Thanks for all that info.
I was following the v35 thread to see how it was progressing and I'd like the ram and the newer processor but it looks like the V 30 to be able to perform brain surgery on it is way more desirable a h?
I put two offers in yesterday on two different sites for the v35 unlocked new gray and they had him listed at 3:45 and I offered 299 and both of them maybe fortunately were rejected?
So I better dig deeper into the V 30.
Thanks again for your input.
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Sure. Read the XDA forum links above.
I've used this seller a few times:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-V30-US998-128GB-Titan-Black-Unlocked-Smartphone-9-10-/183795406681
Thanks for the link, I was also looking have a supplier that had new unlocked with the 128 storage 4 248.
I was wanting to make a couple comments back to you but got reading a couple links and I feel like you were holding out on us I'm really excited to see what I read. And you were commenting on that thread also it's on the the v30 thread and it's from page 157 on the high possibility of Brian/ running naked being able to unlock the bootloader !
So I'll give this link and I'm wondering for other people with the v35 I would think that this information would give them some pretty big hope?
For those that want to take a look go to the end of the thread and it's page 156+157 and read those pages for some promising news!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/root-h932-lafploit-1-5-to-v20a-t3842550/page157
Page 156
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79728752&postcount=1560
Now I have V30 Verizon version, and I'm waiting for V35 to compare it. V30 is great phone, only small issue which I found, that V30 has small freezes on my videos from gopro hero 6 black 4k/50fps 80mbps. And, as I read, cameras on V30 and V35 are different.
So I was on the fence but as I am seeing a little action with this phone I am now waiting to find a deal on a new v 35 unlocked I've got one location that it's right at 33999 and I waited the other day there was a eBay bucks at 13% and I was still on the fence but I'm ready to purchase it now but I'm hoping for some kind of deal? Anybody know where there's a nice gray one new unlocked 4 a good number?
I'm going to add a link to a post I just made that shows Pie is being distributed for the v35 AT&t.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79758521&postcount=81
2 months ago I made an offer on one of the eBay sellers to purchase new unlocked AT&t v35 4 $300.
I also made an offer to another seller of the same phone for the purchase price of 27999 and both of them rejected the offer said the price they have is what they're sticking with. So here we are two months later as prices were coming down a little bit the one that I had offered 27999 had dropped his price down to 27999 so I went ahead and bit. Screen protector case all toll I'm in for 291.
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So I was on the fence but as I am seeing a little action with this phone I am now waiting to find a deal on a new v 35 unlocked I've got one location that it's right at 33999 and I waited the other day there was a eBay bucks at 13% and I was still on the fence but I'm ready to purchase it now but I'm hoping for some kind of deal? Anybody know where there's a nice gray one new unlocked 4 a good number?
I'm going to add a link to a post I just made that shows Pie is being distributed for the v35 AT&t.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79758521&postcount=81
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EDIT: eBay coupon not site wide like previous holiday coupons. Sorry.
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eBay has 15% off deal through end of July 3, 2019. Code: JULY4FUN
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Ouch I knew the discount was coming but I didn't think the inventory would last, it was showing down to the last phone so I went ahead and pulled the trigger.
That's a good discount that would have put icing on the cake.
I have to go back and check cuz I thought I checked all the sites and now I feel better cuz I did see that deal the seller I was dealing with wasn't on the list.
"required from eligible items sold by the Seller(s) listed below. "
https://slickdeals.net/f/13181263-ebay-15-off-at-select-sellers-with-code-exp-7-3
Honestly i bought this phone 4 months ago for 290$.
yes price wise sounds like a great deal but camera is bad.
My Wifes HTC U11 and my Sisters Pixel 1 takes much better photos. I don't take many photos but when i needed to take one this camera was an embarrassment. I felt like i was using my old HTC M9.
pixel 2 are selling so cheap these days i would rather get that even though it has 835 and less ram.
Seller Cell2Go on amazon is selling unlocked V35 for $299. It comes in an original but open box, packed in all wraps that it is supposed to be packed, looks new to me. The only thing - there are no headphones (by design as there is no place for them in a box). Mine has manufacture date Sept 2018. Pretty cool phone, no regrets so far.
https://www.amazon.com/LG-ThinQ-Unl...reless&sr=1-2-spons&psc=1&smid=A2NTVDDW2IZZYQ