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Loosing 3G While on Calls -- ATT HSDPA

Has anyone experienced this before? I seem to loose 3G connectivity while talking on a call. I can keep talking... but the 3G icon disappears and I see an alert icon notifying me that I've lose data connectivity.
This doesn't happen all the time, but quite often. Sometimes, the icon with signal bars will have a small 'R' at the top left indicating that I may be in Roaming mode.
I've got the ATT Nexus One with Bell Mobility as my carrier (Canada). They have a pure HSDPA network with no 2G fall back, so I'm not sure how I could lose 3G and still be on the call... I've got 2.2.1 FRG83 with Stock Android and the phone is NOT rooted.
Any suggestions? Should I reapply FRG83 -- or the entire stock android image (is this even possible on a non-rooted phone)?

Not sure if this is the same, as I never go into Roaming mode... but I routinely lose my data connection while making phone calls. I'm on T-mobile, btw.

Is this something normal? Have you just ended up living with it?
I'm slightly concerned about missing an email or SMS during a call if data connectivity is lost. Although, I don't think that data is truly lost as Bell Mobility only has a 3G network, there is no 2G to fall back on...

Are you sure you're not roaming over other networks? I'm sure you are switched to another network, and the data is dropped because Android has a switch to turn off data (which has nothing to do with SMS, by the way) when roaming, and this switch is on by default.
When the data is dropped, I believe it's not re-negotiated until the end of your conversation, so if you're switched to a roaming cell tower for even a second - your data is gone until the end of your call.
If your cellular carrier has agreement with other carrier's cell towers and they accept roaming (which is sometimes the case, as I've learned from this forum) - you should turn that switch off to retain data even when roaming.

[Q] Dropping data connection

anyone experiencing data drops particularly when the phone is in weak 4G coverage? It acts like it cant switch between 4G and 3G. sometimes it might take 5 min or more before it will reconnect to data. the phone works fine when it is in a strong signal area. So far I have just experienced this behavior in low signal coverage.

Yesss! Experienced that yesterday. But came back on in 5 min. Usually fixed when u go to settings and switch from the lte to GSM and back to lte but haven't had trouble with it today
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check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893010
has links to other threads as well
Yours is the first case I've seen where data drops altogether, most have just been going back to 3G too often.

jntdroid said:
check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1893010
has links to other threads as well
Yours is the first case I've seen where data drops altogether, most have just been going back to 3G too often.
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I am having the no data issue as well! I leave my house (on wifi and supposedly 3G or 4G) and I want to start listening to music immediately in my car but I have no data connection once wifi is off. It can take over a minute or more to get a data connection! I was wondering if this had to do with LTE protocol negotiation, as this is my first 4G phone. However it seems way too slow and its very aggravating. When it does get data back, it is usually 4G not 3G. Toggling data mode on and off doesn't fix it. I have not yet tried toggling between CDMA and GSM.

emkman said:
I am having the no data issue as well! I leave my house (on wifi and supposedly 3G or 4G) and I want to start listening to music immediately in my car but I have no data connection once wifi is off. It can take over a minute or more to get a data connection! I was wondering if this had to do with LTE protocol negotiation, as this is my first 4G phone. However it seems way too slow and its very aggravating. When it does get data back, it is usually 4G not 3G. Toggling data mode on and off doesn't fix it. I have not yet tried toggling between CDMA and GSM.
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does it only happen when you're leaving wifi and going to cell data?

My experience with data connection was spotty for the first couple days. Going from WiFi into 4G then 3G on the way to work required a reboot to pick up the 3G after I arrived.
I think I may have found my issue.
Settings -> More... -> Mobile Networks -> Network Mode
Was originally set to "Global". I've found that "LTE/CDMA" works better for me.
hope this helps some.

Nexus 4 on T-Mobile shows H+ connection but has no data

My Nexus 4 on T-Mobile's unlimited data routinely drops its data connection several times during the day. It never loses the signal from the tower. In fact, it maintains the 3G or H+ icon on the signal, so it has a data connection, but it simply receives no data. The icon becomes gray indicating that it has lost its connection with Google servers as well. Sometimes when I toggle my data it fixes, sometimes it doesn't. I've tried switching APN's with no luck. This is incredibly frustrating and I am thinking of leaving T-Mobile due to this. This has happened to me over 3 different phones (a Galaxy Nexus and two Nexus 4's), using different ROM's and different radios, and in different locations.
Can anyone shed some light onto what this issue might be? The only thing I can think of is T-Mobile's DNS servers are terrible, but I don't know if it is possible to switch to a different DNS provider over a 3G/H+ connection.

SEALBoy said:
My Nexus 4 on T-Mobile's unlimited data routinely drops its data connection several times during the day. It never loses the signal from the tower. In fact, it maintains the 3G or H+ icon on the signal, so it has a data connection, but it simply receives no data. The icon becomes gray indicating that it has lost its connection with Google servers as well. Sometimes when I toggle my data it fixes, sometimes it doesn't. I've tried switching APN's with no luck. This is incredibly frustrating and I am thinking of leaving T-Mobile due to this. This has happened to me over 3 different phones (a Galaxy Nexus and two Nexus 4's), using different ROM's and different radios, and in different locations.
Can anyone shed some light onto what this issue might be? The only thing I can think of is T-Mobile's DNS servers are terrible, but I don't know if it is possible to switch to a different DNS provider over a 3G/H+ connection.
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I had the same problem, i calles t-mobile and went to the highest tech support, he told me its because of the servers switching to the new 1900 mhz and lte near me. Could be same to you

Same thing with me but the signal bars stay blue. The arrows go up and down but it just doesn't do anything.

OnePlus Two - HSPA+ and 3G Data Connection Problem

Hi Everyone,
I'm usually just a reader on XDA, but I have found a problem that appears not to have been solved and wondered if anyone had any insight.
Problem Summary
When in an area (or network) with only HSPA and UMTS (strong HSPA/UMTS signal, but with no LTE or 2G available), the phone will drop from H+ to 3G erratically, always dropping the data connection. Traditional phone calls are not affected.
Detailed Description
I have a OnePlus Two and have 2 SIM cards. My first SIM Card is with Bell Canada (Virgin), and the second SIM Card is with WIND Mobile Canada.
Neither Bell nor WIND operate a 2G network, so the lowest the service can fall to is UMTS/3G.
Initially, I didn't notice the problem because Bell also operates an LTE network, and there is no problem with dropping the data connections when on LTE.
When I switched to the WIND SIM card (which only operates HSPA and UMTS), I noticed a problem where the phone would initially connect to H+, begin downloading whatever is needed (say, streaming music), but then part way through the download, the connection would switch to 3G, and the data would effectively stop. Within a minute, the service would jump back to H+ and download some more, but this cycle would continue (H+ --> 3G --> H+ --> 3G... ), with no way of knowing 1) how long the H+ connection would last before dropping to 3G (usually less than 30 seconds), and 2) after dropping to 3G, how long before going back to H+. This problem makes the phone almost useless when there is no LTE.
The most obvious troubleshooting I did was move to locations of better signal but I quickly ruled that out, as nothing seems to remove this problem. Other things I tried was to: move locations in the city, reboot phone, hard reset phone, flash most updated version of Oxygen, unlock bootloader, root, try the HSPA Keepalive app, swap SIM1 to SIM2, and many other things.
I originally thought this was a network issue, but I put this WIND SIM in another phone and there was no problem in any way that resembled this problem.
I also ruled out this being a network-specific problem, as I have taken a trip with the Bell SIM to an area where Bell does not have any LTE coverage (only HSPA and UMTS) and the same problem occurs on Bell as with the WIND SIM.
I have found people who had this problem on the OnePlus One tend to recommend using 2G to stabilize the connection, but this is not possible on Bell or WIND. That solution also would not provide adequate data speeds.
Remember this problem only affects data connectivity, as 3G traditional phone calls have no problems.
Question
Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust the conditions when the OnePlus Two will choose to switch from H+ to 3G?
Does anyone have any easier suggestions?
Thank you all in advance, because this rendering this phone almost useless when there is no LTE coverage.

I believe your problem is that phone it's dualsim standby, that means only one modem that alternates signal for both sims, I think normal would be alternating from faster network to slower network on sim without data.
Having to change to g3 between sims theres something stoped in the modem and data connection is also stopped.
You have no problem with voice calls because other sim is automatically turned off and unreachable.
There's nothing you can do if you're forced to only 3g on both sims
By 3g I mean 3g or h+ which to my knowledge are the same
Hope I was helpful and not wrong or more confusing
Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk

fburgos said:
I believe your problem is that phone it's dualsim standby, that means only one modem that alternates signal for both sims, I think normal would be alternating from faster network to slower network on sim without data.
Having to change to g3 between sims theres something stoped in the modem and data connection is also stopped.
You have no problem with voice calls because other sim is automatically turned off and unreachable.
There's nothing you can do if you're forced to only 3g on both sims
By 3g I mean 3g or h+ which to my knowledge are the same
Hope I was helpful and not wrong or more confusing
Sent from my ONE A2005 using Tapatalk
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Thanks, I will try disabling the second SIM to see if there is a bug with the dual-sim...
What it currently does with the second SIM is it either shows "R" for roaming or just emergency only, but perhaps there is a software issue so I'll see if disabling the second SIM makes a difference.

biomedeng said:
Thanks, I will try disabling the second SIM to see if there is a bug with the dual-sim...
What it currently does with the second SIM is it either shows "R" for roaming or just emergency only, but perhaps there is a software issue so I'll see if disabling the second SIM makes a difference.
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Though strange, this workaround fixes the issue. Thank you to fburgos for the suggestion!
So just in case anyone ever finds this issue creeps up on them, the solution is to DISABLE the SIM you are not using. It's not the most convenient workaround to swap SIMs, but the other SIM will be in Emergency Mode, so it really makes no functional difference.
On the technical side, it does appear that there is actually a bug in Android for a very uncommon network configuration. It will only appear in this exact configuration:
SIM1: Network has HSPA/3G only, no LTE or 2G to move to
SIM2: Network also only has HSPA/3G with no LTE or 2G
The non-data SIM does NOT connect to a roaming network (connects with "Emergency Only") - if it connects to a roaming 2G network, this problem does not happen.
The data SIM connects to HSPA/3G
Both SIMs are active
I'm not sure if this will happen anywhere else in the world other than having a WIND Mobile Canada SIM and Bell or TELUS Canada SIM
If anyone has insight on how to report this to Google, or someone else who can confirm my theory, that would be great!

Try this:
1. You need to make sure you have the correct LTE APN selected in mobile networks and LTE as preferred type.
2. Go to dialer and type in this: *#*#4636#*#*
3. Phone Information
4. Set Preferred Network Type to: LTE/GSM (PRL) - you an play with which one you wanna use but the one I said works for sure. on other roms I have" TD-SCDMA, GSM/WCDMA and LTE"
5. Now click TURN OFF RADIO and wait WAIT few secs. will that button turns to Turn Radio ON
6. Now TURN ON RADIO and wait
7. when u see the triangle for the signal is back, at least black , go down and lick SMSC REFRESH then UPDATE.
8. now just go back to APN settings and go into your LTE APN
9. Change Bearer to LTE

biomedeng said:
Hi Everyone,
I'm usually just a reader on XDA, but I have found a problem that appears not to have been solved and wondered if anyone had any insight.
Problem Summary
When in an area (or network) with only HSPA and UMTS (strong HSPA/UMTS signal, but with no LTE or 2G available), the phone will drop from H+ to 3G erratically, always dropping the data connection. Traditional phone calls are not affected.
Detailed Description
I have a OnePlus Two and have 2 SIM cards. My first SIM Card is with Bell Canada (Virgin), and the second SIM Card is with WIND Mobile Canada.
Neither Bell nor WIND operate a 2G network, so the lowest the service can fall to is UMTS/3G.
Initially, I didn't notice the problem because Bell also operates an LTE network, and there is no problem with dropping the data connections when on LTE.
When I switched to the WIND SIM card (which only operates HSPA and UMTS), I noticed a problem where the phone would initially connect to H+, begin downloading whatever is needed (say, streaming music), but then part way through the download, the connection would switch to 3G, and the data would effectively stop. Within a minute, the service would jump back to H+ and download some more, but this cycle would continue (H+ --> 3G --> H+ --> 3G... ), with no way of knowing 1) how long the H+ connection would last before dropping to 3G (usually less than 30 seconds), and 2) after dropping to 3G, how long before going back to H+. This problem makes the phone almost useless when there is no LTE.
The most obvious troubleshooting I did was move to locations of better signal but I quickly ruled that out, as nothing seems to remove this problem. Other things I tried was to: move locations in the city, reboot phone, hard reset phone, flash most updated version of Oxygen, unlock bootloader, root, try the HSPA Keepalive app, swap SIM1 to SIM2, and many other things.
I originally thought this was a network issue, but I put this WIND SIM in another phone and there was no problem in any way that resembled this problem.
I also ruled out this being a network-specific problem, as I have taken a trip with the Bell SIM to an area where Bell does not have any LTE coverage (only HSPA and UMTS) and the same problem occurs on Bell as with the WIND SIM.
I have found people who had this problem on the OnePlus One tend to recommend using 2G to stabilize the connection, but this is not possible on Bell or WIND. That solution also would not provide adequate data speeds.
Remember this problem only affects data connectivity, as 3G traditional phone calls have no problems.
Question
Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust the conditions when the OnePlus Two will choose to switch from H+ to 3G?
Does anyone have any easier suggestions?
Thank you all in advance, because this rendering this phone almost useless when there is no LTE coverage.
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I have the same problem. Do you already have solved it?
I use only one SIM card so it is not a problem two cards.

really you do not have this problem? if no one knows the solution?

compared with my htc butterfly 2 and another low-end android, one plus 2 running latest Oxygen OS has serious connectivity issues. I compared the signals strength using same sim card in same location (including being connected to the same tower) and One Plus 2 keeps dropping the connection and has really poor signal strength. I have tried the *#*#4636#*#* and tried different network modes, but none of them are helping. Its a real disappointment that the basic feature of this phone is screwed up.
I have tried with CM13 as well. Any ideas if this is a modem version issue?

odeccacccp said:
Try this:
1. You need to make sure you have the correct LTE APN selected in mobile networks and LTE as preferred type.
2. Go to dialer and type in this: *#*#4636#*#*
3. Phone Information
4. Set Preferred Network Type to: LTE/GSM (PRL) - you an play with which one you wanna use but the one I said works for sure. on other roms I have" TD-SCDMA, GSM/WCDMA and LTE"
5. Now click TURN OFF RADIO and wait WAIT few secs. will that button turns to Turn Radio ON
6. Now TURN ON RADIO and wait
7. when u see the triangle for the signal is back, at least black , go down and lick SMSC REFRESH then UPDATE.
8. now just go back to APN settings and go into your LTE APN
9. Change Bearer to LTE
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Did It.. But it seems like it didn't solve my problem..

3G Data Not Working

Problem has been resolved. See my final post in this thread.
Long time lurker. First time poster.
I am having problems getting 3G data on my new phone.
Last week I activated a new Moto X Pure Edition on the Sprint network via MVNO Ting. The phone appeared to activate just fine. Voice, text, LTE, Wi-Fi, and 1x data are all working without any obvious issues. Phone is pure stock.
3G data is not working. If I set Preferred Network Type to "LTE (recommended)", mobile data works on LTE but if I travel to an area that has not yet been upgraded to LTE, it will not drop back to 3G. Further, if I choose 3G as the Preferred Network Type regardless of whether the phone is connected to an LTE tower or a non-LTE tower, I get no data connection. Same for Global - no 3G connection.
If I choose "1x" as the Preferred Network Type (whether in an LTE area or not) then the phone will establish a data connection. The phone reports this connection as 3G in the status bar but the speed is so unusable that I doubt it can be a 3G connection.
I've done a carrier wipe, updated the device config (profile) and updated the PRL, all several times. Nothing changed. I've also done a factory reset which also did not help. I did not have any issues with my Nexus 5 which the MXPE replaced. I have since reactivated the Nexus 5 with a new number while troubleshooting this problem and it reactivated just fine. No issues at all.
Questions:
1) SignalCheck Pro reports that mobile data is "unregistered" when trying to get 3G data. Is registration of 3G data tied to the SIM card or to the MEID of the phone? Trying to determine if the registration problem lies with the SIM, the phone, or the network.
2) Why would I be able to get a 1x data connection but not 3G?
3) Ting is suggesting network problems may be playing a part but I'm not sure as the problem has persisted through several cities around west Texas and eastern New Mexico and throughout Lubbock TX which has many cell towers. Is there any way this could be a network issue?
4) Is the SIM for the MXPE compatible with my old Nexus 5? I'm wondering if swapping the SIM into my N5 will help to diagnose the problem.
5) Is anyone else with a MXPE having issues with 3G data?
This one is puzzling and I need some help from the gurus. Thanks much.
DC

Bump.

Swapped SIMS with one sent by Ting to verify the problem wasn't with the SIM. Still no 3G.
DC

DC73 said:
Long time lurker. First time poster.
I am having problems getting 3G data on my new phone.
Last week I activated a new Moto X Pure Edition on the Sprint network via MVNO Ting. The phone appeared to activate just fine. Voice, text, LTE, Wi-Fi, and 1x data are all working without any obvious issues. Phone is pure stock.
3G data is not working. If I set Preferred Network Type to "LTE (recommended)", mobile data works on LTE but if I travel to an area that has not yet been upgraded to LTE, it will not drop back to 3G. Further, if I choose 3G as the Preferred Network Type regardless of whether the phone is connected to an LTE tower or a non-LTE tower, I get no data connection. Same for Global - no 3G connection.
If I choose "1x" as the Preferred Network Type (whether in an LTE area or not) then the phone will establish a data connection. The phone reports this connection as 3G in the status bar but the speed is so unusable that I doubt it can be a 3G connection.
I've done a carrier wipe, updated the device config (profile) and updated the PRL, all several times. Nothing changed. I've also done a factory reset which also did not help. I did not have any issues with my Nexus 5 which the MXPE replaced. I have since reactivated the Nexus 5 with a new number while troubleshooting this problem and it reactivated just fine. No issues at all.
Questions:
1) SignalCheck Pro reports that mobile data is "unregistered" when trying to get 3G data. Is registration of 3G data tied to the SIM card or to the MEID of the phone? Trying to determine if the registration problem lies with the SIM, the phone, or the network.
2) Why would I be able to get a 1x data connection but not 3G?
3) Ting is suggesting network problems may be playing a part but I'm not sure as the problem has persisted through several cities around west Texas and eastern New Mexico and throughout Lubbock TX which has many cell towers. Is there any way this could be a network issue?
4) Is the SIM for the MXPE compatible with my old Nexus 5? I'm wondering if swapping the SIM into my N5 will help to diagnose the problem.
5) Is anyone else with a MXPE having issues with 3G data?
This one is puzzling and I need some help from the gurus. Thanks much.
DC
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Yes..i am having the same issue..with vodafone in india

Update. After two Moto X PE phones, numerous factory resets, much research and testing, there is now a work around to this problem. The problem does not appear to impact any phones on the big 4 networks. It only impacts phones on a Sprint MVNO.
There are now known eHRPD issues with Sprint and their MVNOs. The work around solution is to disable eHRPD. Sprint is working on changes to eHRPD that may resolve the issue permanently. Thanks to Ting for their persistence in helping get to the bottom of this problem.
DC

Final update. Earlier this month Sprint released some changes to the way eHRPD handoffs are handled and that resolved my issue. My Moto X PE now works as it should with no workarounds necessary to get 3G data.
DC

DC73 said:
Final update. Earlier this month Sprint released some changes to the way eHRPD handoffs are handled and that resolved my issue. My Moto X PE now works as it should with no workarounds necessary to get 3G data.
DC
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How to get this update?

Sekasniy said:
How to get this update?
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There was no update pushed to the phone and no changes to the phone. The fix was on the network side.
DC

DC73 said:
There was no update pushed to the phone and no changes to the phone. The fix was on the network side.
DC
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So why not work 3g? Is the problem in cell operator?

^^Sprint had some issues with 3g (ehrpd) on mvno's. It would work if forced to evdo, but not ehrpd. Sprint made some changes to their network so this now works correctly. It was a network side issue.