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[AOSP] Android 4.0 source code released

encase you dont already know android 4 (ICS) source code is now live! hopefully we can get this bad boy ported to our archos!
http://source.android.com/
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building/msg/c0e01b4619a1455a

how about supporting cyanogenmod 9 (ics) to support the gen8 so it will be officially supported.
afaik the openaos team did already a good job building cm 7 for gen8.

^^ just what we need - even UD is great we should move on and push and help openAOS team a bit - it' our only ticket away from froyo...
Btw - do we know if ICS can run with 265MB Ram definitly?
Still can't find a relying answer to...
Best I found wast this but the answer of cyanogen-forum tells MORE then 265MB and the author makes it to: 256MB or more
Still confused...

So it means it must have a minimum of 256 MB. The question is not if it will run or not (yes it will, no matter what) but how fast will it run?

Indeed it should run fine but multi tasking will likely not happen and the ics launcher etc will likely lag and redraw alot

If we want to see ics on gen8, we will need more active people to port the code. We are in sync with latest CM7 code. We also tried to make our patches upstream ready, if we ever want to push our code to CM.
However before stepping up from CM7 to CM9, I think we should wait a bit until some equal devices in CM repo have it running.
Also building gingerbread from scratch is about 2 - 2 1/2 hours. Building ics from scratch will cost me at least 5 hours. (dual core intel P7350 with 4Gb RAM) This is a problem for troubleshooting and testing builds. Now off course you don't have to build every time from scratch. However it will just take more time to debug ics then gingerbread just taking into account the build times, which means less time available for coding and actual debugging.
So for now we stick to CM7 and most of the work that is done for CM7 will be usefull for CM9.
BTW making progress with hardware acceleration for video on CM7
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well said... also, i'm really amazed at the battery life of my 101 with cm7... it's awesome

Sorry if this is common knowledge, but everyone is making a big deal over weather it will run with 256mb, but isnt there, or couldnt there be made something similar for android to virtual memory / paging file? not as good as having more memory for sure, but better than running out.
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Ahha!
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It is common knowledge,
We allready have swap and Compcache that can do this, but it is like in Windows.
Wenn your 256MB Windows XP has a 4 GB Swapfile it works with Autocad but when it starts to trash, it's not really usable.
Same here.
But as Andy Rubin anounced, ICS schould be able to run smoothly everywhere, where Gingerbread can run.
We have a smooth GB ( CM7 ) so we will have ICS.

Android L

Android L has been successfully ported in Nexus4 today and is being run almost flawlessly by several.When our GT-N 7100 will be seeing this?Can anybody tell?

Porting a developer preview is a waste of time.

pnsdhrn said:
Android L has been successfully ported in Nexus4 today and is being run almost flawlessly by several.When our GT-N 7100 will be seeing this?Can anybody tell?
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No because psychic abilities do not exist so people will be guessing.
4 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 7 seconds.
FloatingFatMan said:
Porting a developer preview is a waste of time.
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What an utterly ridiculously stupid thing to say on XDA. It may be a waste of time for YOU but not for the person(s) who enjoys porting/trying/learning/testing or for proof on concept etc.
For example, testing/trying ports now on Dev preview will make the final port quicker/easier if prior porting issues are found/ironed out in advance.

TheATHEiST said:
No because psychic abilities do not exist so people will be guessing.
4 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 7 seconds.
What an utterly ridiculously stupid thing to say on XDA. It may be a waste of time for YOU but not for the person(s) who enjoys porting/trying/learning/testing or for proof on concept etc.
For example, testing/trying ports now on Dev preview will make the final port quicker/easier if prior porting issues are found/ironed out in advance.
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I strongly second you.And in this case the one ported in Nexus4 seems to be a stable one.More than 84 pages have been covered in that thread since the opening it and most of the followers seem to be contented.This shows that Floating Fatman's statement is most ridiculous and baseless.My question is will any developer will port a similar or better one for our N7100?Anxiously waiting...

pnsdhrn said:
I strongly second you.And in this case the one ported in Nexus4 seems to be a stable one.More than 84 pages have been covered in that thread since the opening it and most of the followers seem to be contented.This shows that Floating Fatman's statement is most ridiculous and baseless.My question is will any developer will port a similar or better one for our N7100?Anxiously waiting...
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I'd think AOSB might be the first, if its even possible to port it over to our Note 2.

pnsdhrn said:
I strongly second you.And in this case the one ported in Nexus4 seems to be a stable one.More than 84 pages have been covered in that thread since the opening it and most of the followers seem to be contented.This shows that Floating Fatman's statement is most ridiculous and baseless.My question is will any developer will port a similar or better one for our N7100?Anxiously waiting...
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I'd think AOSB might be the first, if its even possible to port it over to our Note 2.
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Somebody will certainly port it at some stage, Just need to be patient.
I'm quite looking forward to Android L. Hopefully CM will release CM12 not long after it goes final. Took a while for CM11 to hit the n7100 though so not sure.

New roms? Why not?

So our phone, is really good, we got cm 11 and cm 12 running, so why don't we have the more special roms? Like flyme os (http://www.flyme.cn/en/) or ubuntu touch? Sailfish os. Most of these, roms have their source released, so for people to pick it up, shouldn't be hard right?
Sailfish os - https://sailfishos.org/develop/hadk/
Ubuntu touch - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building
Flyme os - Well it's builded for the nexus 5, but aren't we able to port it? http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/development/official-flyme-nexus5-kk-4-4-flyme-3-8r-t2875908
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I'd be interested too, what comes to mind is hardware limitations and lack of sources from LG to build on? I have for a couple of months and I still haven't wrapped my head in all the info, but I think we have some limitations as I mentioned above. Someone who's more informed can correct me tho

But aren't we able to port from nexus 5?

MidnightDevil said:
I'd be interested too, what comes to mind is hardware limitations and lack of sources from LG to build on? I have for a couple of months and I still haven't wrapped my head in all the info, but I think we have some limitations as I mentioned above. Someone who's more informed can correct me tho
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But aren't we able to port from nexus 5?

theonlykamph said:
But aren't we able to port from nexus 5?
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nexus 5 has a completely different chipset SD800 Nexus 5 Vs SD801 in the LG G3

sofir786 said:
nexus 5 has a completely different chipset SD800 Nexus 5 Vs SD801 in the LG G3
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So let me get this straight, are we able to port any rom, from a phone as long as the cpu is 810 snapdragon?

theonlykamph said:
So let me get this straight, are we able to port any rom, from a phone as long as the cpu is 810 snapdragon?
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The issue is that LG does not release the source code for LG G3, whereas the nexus 5 even though it is manufactured by LG, people have the sources for it. So developing all these different roms is not as easy as you think, we have only just got MIUI rom for this device and it is not even official. its not a SD810 btw.

sofir786 said:
The issue is that LG does not release the source code for LG G3, whereas the nexus 5 even though it is manufactured by LG, people have the sources for it. So developing all these different roms is not as easy as you think, we have only just got MIUI rom for this device and it is not even official. its not a SD810 btw.
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I don't get it, can't we take the roms from another phone using our cpu, and just port it from there?

theonlykamph said:
I don't get it, can't we take the roms from another phone using our cpu, and just port it from there?
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Lol you are not understanding, its not as simple as you think. Anyway i shall leave you with that.

sofir786 said:
Lol you are not understanding, its not as simple as you think. Anyway i shall leave you with that.
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Okay, why so mean?

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Okay, why so mean?
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Im not being mean at all, you're failing to understand that its not easy to just port roms, and its not even about porting roms, there has to be enough demand for it, devs need to have the device and not all devs do because they move to other devices, if it was an easy process then there would be loads of other roms, but the majority of roms are now Cyanogen and aosp based because thats the easiest way to as they have the sources for that.

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Im not being mean at all, you're failing to understand that its not easy to just port roms, and its not even about porting roms, there has to be enough demand for it, devs need to have the device and not all devs do because they move to other devices, if it was an easy process then there would be loads of other roms, but the majority of roms are now Cyanogen and aosp based because thats the easiest way to as they have the sources for that.
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I never ported a rom, but i saw some guide on porting a rom, where you would take something from the rom you want to port, and some from the base. So i thought it was like that! I'm so sorry, if i said anything mean to you Hope you have a great day :highfive:

Porting isn't the way you would want to work. For the best results you would need all sources and complete documentation of the hardware to be able to build a rom for a device from scratch.

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Porting isn't the way you would want to work. For the best results you would need all sources and complete documentation of the hardware to be able to build a rom for a device from scratch.
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But what if i just want to port a simple rom, is it just the cpu that has to be the same?

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But what if i just want to port a simple rom, is it just the cpu that has to be the same?
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There is no "simple" ROM.
You can't just put another phone's ROM to G3, it doesn't work like that.
In PC world, you can install Linuxes and Windows operating systems mostly as you want, but in mobile, things are different.

So if there is no port for the custom ROMs then why not features like Download Booster from the Galaxy S5, this is a possibility maybe it is hard to do but give it a chance, just an idea that I like

TonzaTheChosenOne said:
There is no "simple" ROM.
You can't just put another phone's ROM to G3, it doesn't work like that.
In PC world, you can install Linuxes and Windows operating systems mostly as you want, but in mobile, things are different.
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What i mean was, would i be able to follow some of those porting guides. Where you take a bit from the lg g3 rom, and then some from the rom you want to port?

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What i mean was, would i be able to follow some of those porting guides. Where you take a bit from the lg g3 rom, and then some from the rom you want to port?
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As Robin2 put it ealier, you would need sources that aren't available.

The Rom porting procedures have been becoming more and more complex with time. Elements like drivers, framework, and so forth are much more complex comparing with Gingerbread. A rom by then used to be 300mb (stock), nowadays we got 1gb roms, much more "little things", overal, it's a lot harder and more complex. You can easily compare, there used to be more ports with gingerbread and ICS than with KK and L. It's a lot of work required to make things happen, even with the same chipset, there's still a lot left to do, specially when we're talking about lack of sources available to make a porting happen and much more complete.
Also, when we're talking about porting a stock rom from HTC to LG, gets worse. manunfactures put a lot of customization (not only GUI) into their firmwares, much more proprietary stuff, much more complexity comparing with a "simple" CM12. It's porting 200mb comparing with 1gb of custom elements. You get the picture. Unfortunatly it's harder than ever and so time consuming and not always with good results. Sources are literally a requirement these days and we don't have them (or don't have them all).

MIUI on Marshmallow

Hey folks, I have a question... Is it hard to port MIUI to Marshmallow for our phone? I love the MIUI Interface, but I wanna move on from Kitkat, and on Lollipop the phone overheats. Besides, all the 4 core are always on and I haven't found any solution for that yet. I'm not a developper but I'm willing to learn if there's a way, which doesn't require much knowledge in development. I appreciate any help. If it's not possible, I'd appreciate if at least someone could help me with making a kernel that boots on MIUI based on Lollipop, which can turn off the cores that are not being used, automatically...

As MiUI is closed source there is NO chance you can contribute directly to source.
You can lend a hand by joining the beta team and giving feedback on what progress they are making towards update.
BTW,kernel governors are used to control the behavior of processors.

gustavray said:
Hey folks, I have a question... Is it hard to port MIUI to Marshmallow for our phone? I love the MIUI Interface, but I wanna move on from Kitkat, and on Lollipop the phone overheats. Besides, all the 4 core are always on and I haven't found any solution for that yet. I'm not a developper but I'm willing to learn if there's a way, which doesn't require much knowledge in development. I appreciate any help. If it's not possible, I'd appreciate if at least someone could help me with making a kernel that boots on MIUI based on Lollipop, which can turn off the cores that are not being used, automatically...
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Stay aosp anyway if you have 1gb ram, MIUI is too heavy.

GeorZ said:
As MiUI is closed source there is NO chance you can contribute directly to source.
You can lend a hand by joining the beta team and giving feedback on what progress they are making towards update.
BTW,kernel governors are used to control the behavior of processors.
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Even if I were to develop a kernel for 4.4 which has official kernel sources released already?
Spasik said:
Stay aosp anyway if you have 1gb ram, MIUI is too heavy.
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I have 2gb. I dont think MIUI is too heavy. The issue for me is only battery. Im happy with the performance this phone gets on any ROM in terms of speed. But battery... thats another story

Did Developers avoided this Device or work on custom roms on?

As we all know Mi a1 makes it difficult for custom rom building coz of A/B partitions ..
But i wanted to whether all the developers are in to make a lot of stable custom roms or they have moved away from the device.
I am not asking for customs roms now itself just wanted to know there is support and working on in the background or not.

I don't think they're avoiding it, it's just taking time to bring up the device tree.. I might dig into it a bit this weekend and try to bring up the device tree to 8.1, the problem is that even in 7.1.2 we don't have everything working. also, Xiaomi did a terrible job with the kernel, took them 4 months to release it and when they did they released an old 7.1.2 based kernel with the commits squashed into one commit over an older CAF tree

Developers are hampered by the lack of availability of source code that is yet to be released by xiaomi, (they have released the code, but not Oreo) otherwise we would have good ROMs by now

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I don't think they're avoiding it, it's just taking time to bring up the device tree.. I might dig into it a bit this weekend and try to bring up the device tree to 8.1, the problem is that even in 7.1.2 we don't have everything working. also, Xiaomi did a terrible job with the kernel, took them 4 months to release it and when they did they released an old 7.1.2 based kernel with the commits squashed into one commit over an older CAF tree
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Yes that ok .. Waiting is worth the wait . But can we expect stable custom roms within a month

Vibun said:
Yes that ok .. Waiting is worth the wait . But can we expect stable custom roms within a month
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LineageOS is out. And I'll say yes.
Once LineageOS is perfectly stable you'll see many more ROMs.
No, developers are not purposely avoiding the device. On the contrary the day after the sources dropped we had 3 ROMs (broken nonetheless, only RIL worked) by three different devs.
As of right now, everyone has joined hands and are fixing LOS14.1
Even Francisco Franco said he's getting his kernel to this device, just be a bit patient.
Sent from my Mi A1 using XDA Labs

Ron1209 said:
LineageOS is out. And I'll say yes.
Once LineageOS is perfectly stable you'll see many more ROMs.
No, developers are not purposely avoiding the device. On the contrary the day after the sources dropped we had 3 ROMs (broken nonetheless, only RIL worked) by three different devs.
As of right now, everyone has joined hands and are fixing LOS14.1
Even Francisco Franco said he's getting his kernel to this device, just be a bit patient.
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Yes , I totally agree with u .. It's a new type of device (a/b partition ) it would take time .. just wanted to know that work is going around on it

Vibun said:
But can I expect stable custom roms within a month
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Are you gonna pay them?

iMewo said:
Are you gonna pay them?
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Dude !! Read my thread properly at the beginning. I said I am not asking for custom roms now ... Just wanted to know whether the device is under work or not ....

Vibun said:
Dude !! Read my thread properly at the beginning. I said I am not asking for custom roms now ... Just wanted to know whether the device is under work or not ....
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Vibun said:
Yes that ok .. Waiting is worth the wait . But can we expect stable custom roms within a month
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try give whoever it is an extra day or 2 maybe.just wait am sure were gonna see a lot of roms coming up

If your waiting for development then you have not done your research. Development devs dont buy from this oem. They even avoid it. The best you can hope for is some of the users porting the roms over but they will most likely be buggy as they always are with this oem.

zelendel said:
If your waiting for development then you have not done your research. Development devs dont buy from this oem. They even avoid it. The best you can hope for is some of the users porting the roms over but they will most likely be buggy as they always are with this oem.
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Then what are your thoughts about Pixel Experience on Redmi Note 4? It has a very few bugs, and in fact gives better battery life than MIUI 9. That ROM isn't considered to be a port, right?

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Then what are your thoughts about Pixel Experience on Redmi Note 4? It has a very few bugs, and in fact gives better battery life than MIUI 9. That ROM isn't considered to be a port, right?
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Any rom will give better batter battery life then miui. That is due to all the background syncing that it does in the back ground.
As for that rom. Any rom that brings over a pixel like rom is a port.
I wouldn't really know as this device isn't sold in my country nor does anyone I know even look twice at the oem.

Stop this A/B partitioning scheme BS. Of course, it does not make life easier for the developers but it certainly isn't the biggest obstacle.

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Stop this A/B partitioning scheme BS. Of course, it does not make life easier for the developers but it certainly isn't the biggest obstacle.
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Really. Ask the devs that got the pixel and after that won't touch a device with the partition setup. It makes things almost impossible to get working right. Me, I would just repatriation the device and remove the partition all together.

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Really. Ask the devs that got the pixel and after that won't touch a device with the partition setup. It makes things almost impossible to get working right. Me, I would just repatriation the device and remove the partition all together.
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I'm not neglecting that but, in my opinion, it isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure that even we if we didn't had it, things wouldn't be much better.

gougous3 said:
I'm not neglecting that but, in my opinion, it isn't that big of a deal anymore. I'm sure that even we if we didn't had it, things wouldn't be much better.
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Well considering the oem you are right. But for normal devices those that don't have the partition are the more dev friendly. Just talk to some of the devs. Most have sworn off anything that uses the dual partition.

zelendel said:
Really. Ask the devs that got the pixel and after that won't touch a device with the partition setup. It makes things almost impossible to get working right. Me, I would just repatriation the device and remove the partition all together.
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Absolutely true, it took months to see a stable release of TWRP for the Pixel. And there's still no official LOS as well.
However there are a few ROMs and more device with A/B are out like PH-1 and Moto Z2

For reals though, devs working on ROMs for this device, feel free to create/list your PayPal accounts for donations.
We ask so much of the devs it's only fair we buy them a drink/meal for all their hard work and persistence!
Sign me up for a donation

zelendel said:
If your waiting for development then you have not done your research. Development devs dont buy from this oem. They even avoid it. The best you can hope for is some of the users porting the roms over but they will most likely be buggy as they always are with this oem.
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You are wrong.. mi phone's has great support on xda..look at rn3,4..and other mi phone threads

sooti said:
I don't think they're avoiding it, it's just taking time to bring up the device tree.. I might dig into it a bit this weekend and try to bring up the device tree to 8.1, the problem is that even in 7.1.2 we don't have everything working. also, Xiaomi did a terrible job with the kernel, took them 4 months to release it and when they did they released an old 7.1.2 based kernel with the commits squashed into one commit over an older CAF tree
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