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will development continue with gingerbread looming?

So sony it going to release GB for our x10 by sept. do you think the devs will stop with the ports and such? becuase why work so hard to port it when in less than 5 months the full build will come? comments concerns?>
i think that dev. will start to focus on kernels and maybe a sense port with it?

i don't think it will stop util gb is released, then gb will be used as a base for future builds.

Or we can use the elements in the SE gb build to theme up our CM7 rom =D
it would really kick ass

The work will not stop. Wolf is joining J now on his work on CM7. It doesn't matter that official GB will come up. The custom GBs will be much faster and smoother without the SE crap in it. And ofcourse custom kernels should fully work until then

GB update is scheduled for end of June, not September. The devs better keep working, if they want to beat SE to the punch.
The official 2.3.3 update will be based on vanilla GB, so it will be very similar to what the devs are cooking up. Basically, we will only really need root to get close to pure vanilla. We won't need a bunch of roms that are just GB vanilla with bloatware removed and a theme added. Most of us can do this ourselves at this point.
However, the bypass will be helpful for lifting any fps limits, speaker volume, undervolting, and overclocking. But it looks like 16mil colors is going to be a bit more difficult, as there is a second layer of security surrounding that (i am not a developer).
I have a feeling SE is going to surprise us with the performance of the GB update. Outside of what I mentioned above, I don't think the average member will find much need for custom ROMs when we are running current OS, unless the devs can get Honeycomb working. That will be the next thing we are looking for.
No disrespect intended to the devs. They are amazing, and if it wasn't for them and xda I would be stuck with 1.6. Just saying that SE is giving us what our devs have so diligently been working on.

[Q] Xoom gingerbread rom

Now I know this is a ridicilous idea as it defeats the whole purpose, but would it be possible to port gingerbread to xoom, or is there already a gingerbread rom that would work. The bootloader was unlocked in under two hours so could cyanogenmod be ported like it has been to the nook color. I absolutely love honeycomb, and think it is superior to gingerbread, but seeing it on the xoom would only further its abilities. If any developer would be up to the worthless but awesome challenge, or simply has an intriguing idea, please reply.

well i cant say i know much about porting. but all of these honeycomb tablets (correct me if im wrong) are directly based on the ventana development kit. or at least extremely similar. so. my advice is start here. there are some 2.2 + 2.3 builds to play with.
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/devkit-ventana

I will take a look in a while, and if I make any progress, then I will post back.
haha, i will have to make sure to get rid of boot.bin. Not really in the mood for flashing a new bootloader.
All the needed image files are here.

Wow, this tegra development kit is absolutely amazing. It includes all the drivers and software for the nvidia tegra 2 platform. I am going to play with this software, and see what I can do. I'm not very patient, so do not expect anything but if I ever get anything working I will post back. Kind of interesting that nvida would release froyo and gingerbread builds for a platform that is as you said almost identical to the xoom,gtab, and other "honeycomb" tabs.Well, hopefuly honeycomb aosp will be released eventualy. Anyways thanks for the link.
Thanked ya

The ways to get full ICS on Atrix

There is a great description of the ways to get ICS on Atrix from crnkoj:
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So lets try to get some light into it, the issue about hw acceleration for the atrix is that, even now that nvidia released proper ICS binaries, those are made for recent kernel versions (post 2.6.39 and 3.x versions), those libs are floating around and are accessible to most people who would want to build stuff with hw acceleration, the problem on the atrix however is we only have 2.6.32 kernel sources from motorola, which in term means all the libs floating around are incompatible and useless. Now there would be two general ways of fixing this: 1. get libs that work with 2.6.32 kernels but are ics compatible (most improbable, except if moto leaks them and is still to lazy to move on from the 2.6.32 kernel) 2. get or make post 2.6.39 kernel sources that have the atrix's proprietary drivers including or rewritten (actually more probable, but still quite low chances, except if moto releases and ICS build for the photon/atrix or someone knows, has the time and will to write these code from scratch for the newer kernel versions). So as you can see this is quite a grim outlook, its still being worked on by community devs as far as my information are up-to-date, but i dont know which aproach they are choosing. There is however a minor glimpse of hope, since the move to integrate android drivers in the mainline/mainstream linux kernel is happening in the 3.3 kernel version (there are 3.2.x versions as of now), so this might be actually the best bet, hoping that most of the atrix proprietary drivers will be supported in it, one could just use the "nvidia libs floating around", another thing is nvidia is maintaining their own tegra2/3 kernel sources, so combined with the 3.3 move to android drivers and nvidia implementing support for tegra into their sources, it might not look so grim for us anymore, but this is all a developing story.
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Also, there is another comment from one of the CM developers:
OK, since so many people are asking: The reason I'm doing the OMAP devices first is because the fine folks at Texas Instruments have, as before, published their reference code. (and Google's current reference device, the SGN, is an OMAP4, which also helps considerably).
The Optimus 2X (and its TMoUS brother, the G2x) is a Tegra2, and nVidia has, as always, published a total amount of zero useful lines of code; at this point, my time is better employed at getting CM9 off the ground with devices in which I can write code than it would be at figuring out how the hell to support old tegra binaries. It'll happen, but not in the near future.
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According to this, there are some plans of CM-developers to make some kind of wrapper to use GB tegra binaries for ICS on GB kernel. Great!
Also, a question from me. LG has announced ICS on O2X. Will this release help us? I saw that some developers used O2X GB binaries for Atrix, and it worked even better Can we do the same trick with ICS binaries and get fully working ICS on ICS kernel?

v.k said:
Also, a question from me. LG has announced ICS on O2X. Will this release help us? I saw that some developers used O2X GB binaries for Atrix, and it worked even better Can we do the same trick with ICS binaries and get fully working ICS on ICS kernel?
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You can never be sure on the software world, but I hope so. A Motorola ICS release would definitely be better though.

Interesting information, thank you!

Easier said than done...
But thanks for sharing the info.
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Hopefully something will get worked out. I have no plans on leaving this phone as I love the FP scanner too much

if i'm correct, samsung's galaxy r and captivate glide are both tegra 2 phones and they run on the 2.6.36 kernel, which supports hw acceleration to a certain degree, does this help us?

Cornertsone multi tasking panels

Cornerstone is a way of enabling multi panel multitasking on android tablets. To see what i'm going on about, go here http://www.onskreen.com/cornerstone/.
Basically, Onskreen have just made cornerstone open source. I was hoping that a dev, who is more capable than i am, with my limited knowledge of android would be willing to compile a rom with cornerstone in it.
The github can be found here https://github.com/Onskreen/cornerstone.
I am not by any means demanding a dev take up this project, i have no right to do so. I just think this would be a valuable addition to our vega's!.
Thank you in advance to anyone who makes an effort to bring cornerstone to the vega

2 days later...
... and BAM!
http://android.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/windowed-multitasking-may-be-coming-to-cm9-r320
This might be integrated in CM9 and will therefore be automatically in VegaICS ROM.
I hope you liked that news!

vegaics is not a cm9 build. Therefore it won't automatically be added.
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This would truly be epic if we could get this built into either the ICS or honeycomb builds, I think it would make our tablets significantly more useful!
Anyone who knows what they are doing care to take a look

Ubuntu Phone (Your Opinion)

Have any of you guys checked out ubuntu phone??? I think it looks gorgeous!! It would be awesome to put on our device. It even seems like it would be light weight for our phones... Tell me what ya think.
Watch The Video!

short_sam said:
Have any of you guys checked out ubuntu phone??? I think it looks gorgeous!! It would be awesome to put on our device. It even seems like it would be light weight for our phones... Tell me what ya think.
Watch The Video!
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Looks neat. I'm curious if we'd even have the space for it all -- that pesky 317mb rom limit we have. If I were you, I'd keep an eye on Defy Dev forums -- if it can work on our platform, one of em will get it working.

Yea I'll be keeping an eye on it for ya it's apparently supposed to release on the 25th? I think that'll be the source.

Ubuntu seems to be very sexy OS. I would love to install it on Bravo. The Ubuntu founder said that it would be very easy to install it on android mobile phone (hmm.. very easy for whome??). I use Fedora desktop now, but who knows, maybe i will switch to Ubuntu on my PC too.

I wish they'd make desktop Ubuntu that smooth haha. I like the new Icon set and the way the apps look
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crappy-buntu
I use Ubuntu based distros for a long time and none of them provides stability, performance acceptable for my needs.
So I think that will be the same story with Ubuntu Phone.
Also IMHO Canonical made a mistake posting UP news over the internet and after declaring that imgs will be available on Autumn.
Till that time Android will, probably, have 5.1 - 5.2 upgrade

PsyClip-R said:
I use Ubuntu based distros for a long time and none of them provides stability, performance acceptable for my needs.
So I think that will be the same story with Ubuntu Phone.
Also IMHO Canonical made a mistake posting UP news over the internet and after declaring that imgs will be available on Autumn.
Till that time Android will, probably, have 5.1 - 5.2 upgrade
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I used to like Ubuntu, then I "upgraded" to 9.04. I've only used Ubuntu for about 4 hours since -- was going to use it for android dev work, but the first reboot killed my wifi and nothing I did could fix it (Ubuntu 12.10\Mint13?). Personally, imho, if you like Ubunut you should just learn to use Debian -- its Ubuntu's base and much more stable (they're "unstable" repos are rock solid for the most part, more-so than Ubuntu's stable anyways ). I wish they'd make a Debian Phone....or a Gentoo Phone -- imagine doing an emerge -e world on your phone .
Have you tried Manjaro Linux? Its my current distro of choice (though I still recommend Debian to newer Linux users). Manjaro is like Linux Mint, only based on Arch Linux. I'm using their testing repos and my only issues come from using the latest kernel (3.7.7-ck patch set), it would be rock solid if I had the common sense to stay with the stable 3.6 kernel .
//JellyX bootloops like crazy with Bravo PA, where the Quarx kernel has been rock solid (at least it has for the last 12 hours in the Defy). It'll take ~105 minutes to compile a new build, ~100 more to test and upload...be back later.
//JellyX doesn't like green lens phones -- Defy or Bravo...I've never once been able to use JellyX for more than 3 minutes w\o a boot loop . It usually doesn't even boot for me :crying:.

Yea I liked that version of linux but I run all of the gui off of my mac so i can run something nice but have my server do all the work so basically i just ssh from Mac OS X into ubuntu server (no-gui) and compile away!
And also skeevy if you could pm me with some rom creation help i would be grateful i'm trying to do some work with quarx's 2.6 kernel and getting it to boot with cm7 or even compile for that matter isn't exactly working out :/
-Also do you know a way to slim down the repo manifest so that it doesn't repo sync EVERY DEVICE KNOWN TO MAN!?!?!?

Ubuntu phone OS has just been released (according to softpedia)

sadly it's just the image no source I think :/

short_sam said:
And also skeevy if you could pm me with some rom creation help i would be grateful i'm trying to do some work with quarx's 2.6 kernel and getting it to boot with cm7 or even compile for that matter isn't exactly working out :/
-Also do you know a way to slim down the repo manifest so that it doesn't repo sync EVERY DEVICE KNOWN TO MAN!?!?!?
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Its been a minute, but its possible to slim it down. I'll add it to my list when I get home this evening.
//Slim down CM7 sync
//Defy Soft Sim Unlock doesn't work (I can't test, I IMEI Sim Unlocked me Defy)
//Bravo JellyX (screw Defy users, they have it already )
//Linaro PA Builds

eeeit skeevy420 get it wiki install ubuntu...
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install

Thanks man. Sounds good. I'm working on a gingerbread 2ndboot it'd be nice but i'm trying to figure out how to add support for our device to the stock omap kernel straight from google

short_sam said:
Thanks man. Sounds good. I'm working on a gingerbread 2ndboot it'd be nice but i'm trying to figure out how to add support for our device to the stock omap kernel straight from google
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Had a really late day today, just got cleaned up and going to bed . Gonna have another late one tomorrow from the looks of it.
Here's the answer I received from Maniac103 on removing all the devices from CM7 about a year ago. Hope it helps.
In CM7, you need to remove the devices you're not interested in from vendor/cyanogen/products/AndroidProducts.mk; after doing that, omitting them from the checkout should work.

Ok sounds good.

is stable ubuntu for phone out,if it is out can we put it in our bravo,plese tell me i am really excited about ubuntu,..