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I just moved to France and while I do have new mobile service with a local provider, something bizarre happened that I'm racking my brain trying to understand.
My Mytouch 4G works fine around town with local WiFi providers. But I'm in an apartment that has wireless service via a provider called "Free". The WiFi signal it sends out is seen by my laptop and works perfectly fine with it but the MyTouch can't see the network at all.
We couldn't figure it out. We got our new phones from here, checked for the apartment's network and there it was. So, clearly it was something about the MT4G that was preventing it from seeing the WiFi network.
Does anyone have any clue how this could happen? Doesn't seem to make any sense to me. If it was a regional thing then why does my laptop see it no problem? But with the MT4G and incidentally the Galaxy Tab I also have, neither can see this apartment's WiFi? I just want to understand this because I'm so curious what causes this!
Thanks!
WiFi 802.11n network, perhaps? And MT4G ROM that doesn't support it?
Jack_R1 said:
WiFi 802.11n network, perhaps? And MT4G ROM that doesn't support it?
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All mytouch roms support N, most support dual band. What's even more interesting is that the galaxy tab wasn't picking it up either. Could a laptop connect to it?
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THEindian said:
All mytouch roms support N, most support dual band. What's even more interesting is that the galaxy tab wasn't picking it up either. Could a laptop connect to it?
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While I would agree the stock ROMs for the MyTouch have support for the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands for Wireless N, I have found only a couple MyTouch ROMs support the 5 GHz bands. In fact, when I would use a different kernel with a rooted stock ROM, I would lose the 5 GHz band. It could be the issue is with the 5 GHz band. If the WiFi network is transmitting in the 5 GHz band and the laptop WiFi card supports both bands, but the ROM does not support the 5 GHz band. If memory serves, Faux123 kernels support 5 GHz wireless N band
If you would like to test my theory and remain rooted, perform a backup then flash this ROM at the link provided.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1017516
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This is so unbelievably bizarre. It's tested every ounce of knowledge I have about wifi.
- The tablet and phone ROMs don't even see the network in this apartment. Both can handle b/g/n connections.
- The laptop sees the network here and connects fine. Perfectly smooth Wireless-N
- When we're out both the tablet AND phones can connect to public, restaurant, and cafe WiFi
- We get our new local phones, turn on WiFi, immediately the apartment's network shows up on the top of the list
Of course, we already have local phones but I now HAVE to solve this mystery because I will probably learn something at the end of it. So, I'm on a mission now. :laugh:
I hope it's ok for me to post this...
Here's the tablet's ROM: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11697-rom-cdma-aosp-ics-cm9-build101-0418/
Here's the phone ROMs:
ARHD 7.0.4 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504718
Virtuous Unity 1.29 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1143177&highlight=virtuous
I don't see anything that could cause this problem in any of them. Any thoughts?
Both Galaxy Tab and MT4G have problems recognizing 5GHz 802.11n. Just google.
Not all kernels work, not all ROMs work. On MT4G specifically, as 4Orr correctly stated, very few kernels do.
99.9% that it's your problem. Do what 4Orr suggested and test it. It takes exactly 15 min to do it.
Cool, thanks
I need to buy a new WiFi router. Would the N10 be able to take advantage of an N900 router over an N600 or N750?
toricred said:
I need to buy a new WiFi router. Would the N10 be able to take advantage of an N900 router over an N600 or N750?
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Hi,
Got a 900 router, ASUS RT-N66U, nice router BTW.
I did test the tablet in all variations.
On 2.4 GHz it runs 2x2 single channel (20 MHz), 130 Mbits max link rate.
On 5GHz it runs 2x2 dual channel (40 Mhz), 300 Mbits Max link rate.
If you only use the router for the tablet 900 is overkill.
Having that said. I would definitly go for 600 at least.
Avoiding the crowded 2.4 Ghz is worth while.
I looked at smallnetbuilder and checked out routers.
Settled for the RT-N66U because it has excllent firmware support (look for RMerlin) as well as excellent reach on the 5 Ghz band.
Good luck.
Yeah, I've heard nothing but great praise for that Asus. I don't really need a router right now, but am considering getting one because of what I've heard. I think Morfic (Trinity Kernel) researched them all at one point & settled on that one.
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Based on the reviews here and elsewhere I went ahead and ordered the rt-n66u today. With some luck it should be here before the weekend.
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Based on the reviews here and elsewhere I went ahead and ordered the rt-n66u today. With some luck it should be here before the weekend.
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Have a look at http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/forumdisplay.php?f=37
Check out the Merlin subforum, best firmware, stock with bugs ironed out and a few extras.
If you dont have many walls or distance to cross us the N10 on the 5GHz band. rocks. Otherwise make sure you force the 2.4 GHz to single channel (20Mhz) otherwise the N10 seems to get confused.
I usually use dd-wrt. I actually verified compatibility before ordering. I might try this other firmware, but what is the advantage of merlin? I've never heard of it jefore.
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I usually use dd-wrt. I actually verified compatibility before ordering. I might try this other firmware, but what is the advantage of merlin? I've never heard of it jefore.
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Its specific for a few Asus routers, excellent wireless performance and close to original Which is tomatoe based . Have read the through the thread other. Suggest we keep there as it really no longer relevant to the N10.
Has anyone on T-Mobile been able to do this at full download speeds? If I Wi-Fi tether my N4 to my laptop or old HTC Vivid, I have no problems. When I tether it to my N10, speed drops to around 500K, regardless of the area I'm in (H, H+, G4). The same thing happens when tethering via bluetooth. Since the N10 had no problem with full bandwidth on my home network via Wi-Fi, I can figure out why the two Nexus devices don't cooperate. They're both running JB 4.2.2 (AOKP M2). Any ideas?
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i have the same problem. i also have a nexus 4 on tmobile and it switches from H+ to H to E and rotates between them and i cant even load a youtube video
It might just be you and me, buddy, cuz I been searching for days and can't find anyone else who has this problem, much less a fix. T-Mobile support finally threw their hands up, basically saying, since they don't carry the N10, good luck with your search. Lol.
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Am I the only one that has bad signal with this phone? My Wi-Fi cuts out and I barely get signal in places where I got 4 bars on my iPhone. Is there a fix to this?
Euforeik said:
Am I the only one that has bad signal with this phone? My Wi-Fi cuts out and I barely get signal in places where I got 4 bars on my iPhone. Is there a fix to this?
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Having the same issue with my note 3. Seems to have gotten slightly better the past few days, but still poor compared to my note 2. Thinking about taking it back to Verizon this week. Anyone know how the return/exchange process works? If I exchange it and still have problems then what are my options? Or if I return it do I get my upgrade back? Can I then repurchase it and have another 14 days to test and potentially return it?
This is my only complaint about my phone. No problems on WiFi, but 4G reception is inconsistent and I often find the phone switching to 3G in places my Note 2 wouldn't. In that situation, I can use Tellinfo to force LTE only and I often have reception. The only problem with this is in places where 3G would actually be appropriate, I obviously then have no service.
This leads me to conclude (and hope) that it's a software/modem firmware issue rather than a hardware issue--the device is switching to 3G when staying on LTE would be appropriate. As such, we might hope for a fix.
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Having the same issue with my note 3. Seems to have gotten slightly better the past few days, but still poor compared to my note 2. Thinking about taking it back to Verizon this week. Anyone know how the return/exchange process works? If I exchange it and still have problems then what are my options? Or if I return it do I get my upgrade back? Can I then repurchase it and have another 14 days to test and potentially return it?
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I am almost certain there is a restocking fee but they may waive that/it may not apply if you are dealing with a defective device.
I have an ac router with 2 channels I sit 3 ft. From it and get poor connection errors and it's slow when it does work. I have Fios as well.
There has to be bad drivers or radio.
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Drachnem said:
I have an ac router with 2 channels I sit 3 ft. From it and get poor connection errors and it's slow when it does work. I have Fios as well.
There has to be bad drivers or radio.
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Check out my ac issues thread there is a fix
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Drachnem said:
I have an ac router with 2 channels I sit 3 ft. From it and get poor connection errors and it's slow when it does work. I have Fios as well.
There has to be bad drivers or radio.
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I have same exact problem. Except I'm using century link
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My first N3 had great WiFi & signal strength, build date 10/2, but had a crooked camera.. I've since had 2 replacements both with WiFi & signal issues, same 10/6 build date.. I will be searching Best Buy for an earlier build date or perhaps one from a more recent batch within the past week if that's even possible.
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Jay A whY said:
My first N3 had great WiFi & signal strength, build date 10/2, but had a crooked camera.. I've since had 2 replacements both with WiFi & signal issues, same 10/6 build date.. I will be searching Best Buy for an earlier build date or perhaps one from a more recent batch within the past week if that's even possible.
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Hmm interesting. Thanks for this info I will probably go to Verizon Wednesday for a replacement or to at least test signal strength side by side with another device
I have luckily had vast improvements. Reception has been much better my note 3 compared to my s3. No more dropped calls. Always have a 3g or 4g signal as where I never had. Always on wifi at this location but finally sending out pics with ease.... This has definitely been some thick icing on the cake. I love it
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What's ur build date? @ loopers
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Jay A whY said:
What's ur build date? @ loopers
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How do we find this? The only date I can find is under kernel verison. It states September 24th
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How do we find this? The only date I can find is under kernel verison. It states September 24th
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When u register your phone via the Samsung website, it will tell you once you input the imei info and tab to the next field.
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I had the same problem with my wifi (slow link speed "5mbps" even tho I had great signal) I solved the problem by changing the channel on my wireless router from channel 11 to channel 10 now I have awesome Internet speed "75mbps" compared to what I had before. Try it, it might help you guys' problem also.
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Mine has a build date of 10/02. I'm hoping this is just a software issue. The signal is not horrible by any means. But it seems to be slightly worse than my note 2. I had a few dropped calls the first few days I owned it(never had one with my note 2) and areas where I would at the very worst have 1 bar of 1x I now have no signal(fades in and out constantly). Sometimes I even struggle to send texts in areas that it was never an issue with the note 2. Now you've got me scared that I'll get an even worse one if I exchange it. Did you get your replacements through Verizon? How painful is the process? Also any experience getting Samsung to fix an issue like this under warranty? I'm not sure what my best option is but I only have two more days before my 14 day exchange period runs out. Fwark.
Not sure of the build date of my first Note 3 , but my second Note 3 has a build date of 10/2 and both have wifi stability issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46632006&postcount=20
Tested my note 3 tonight side by side with my girlfriend's S4 and they had about the same signal strength(note was about 10dBm worse at first but quickly adjusted and was actually better for a short period). But after watching them for about 10 minutes they seemed to be almost identical. My signal seems to be a bit better more recently than it was previously(did a soft reset last night and cleared cache as well). The only time the poor performance is really noticeable is in my living room at home where I now have no service 90% of the time making it very hard to send texts and mms. Previously with my note 2 I had at least one bar of 1x most of the time and rarely lost service completely. Hoping this will improve with a software update. I don't plan on taking mine back since it seems likely to get the same or worse performance from a replacement
My wifi is strong 50mbps, its the 4g thats my issue this radio sucks compared to my 3 year old droid bionic.
I wonder how much of the signal issues has to do with the power management. The radio and s800 provide
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I am in downtown San Francisco and at best have only 1 bar showing on 4G. I spoke to VZW service, the rep told me it's counter intuitive: yes San Francisco is saturated as best as VZW can as far as LTE is concerned, but because there are so many people using LTE in such a small area, connectivity is virtually "0".
Is this horse manure?
If the stupid "unstable" internet connection thing were to get fixed, I think I would finally have a perfect phone. And please don't say it's my router or that it works fine for you.... The wifi thing is a problem, and this is my second Note 3, and they both do the exact same thing. Everything else works fine with my router setup (FIOS), so to suggest that something needs changed there doesn't make any sense.
So, simply, does the OTA fix the WiFi connectivity problem?
toddnbrown said:
If the stupid "unstable" internet connection thing were to get fixed, I think I would finally have a perfect phone. And please don't say it's my router or that it works fine for you.... The wifi thing is a problem, and this is my second Note 3, and they both do the exact same thing. Everything else works fine with my router setup (FIOS), so to suggest that something needs changed there doesn't make any sense.
So, simply, does the OTA fix the WiFi connectivity problem?
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I can't answer that unfortunately. I used to have the same problem at work (they used DLink access points which have problems with Samsung). They just replaced them all with HP hardware and I haven't had the error at all any more.
What I can say is that everything radio seems better for me with this update. I get 2 more bars for cellular reception as well as much better bluetooth clarity.
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I can't answer that unfortunately. I used to have the same problem at work (they used DLink access points which have problems with Samsung). They just replaced them all with HP hardware and I haven't had the error at all any more.
What I can say is that everything radio seems better for me with this update. I get 2 more bars for cellular reception as well as much better bluetooth clarity.
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Service bars are just a visual thing. You have to check the actual reception numbers to see if your cellular reception has improved at all. I have been using my D-Link router with my Note 3 (as well as my previous S3) and the WiFi connection is rock solid. Maybe some of the networking equipment you had at work was older, but Samsung phones and D-Link equipment can connect without issue.
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Service bars are just a visual thing. You have to check the actual reception numbers to see if your cellular reception has improved at all. I have been using my D-Link router with my Note 3 (as well as my previous S3) and the WiFi connection is rock solid. Maybe some of the networking equipment you had at work was older, but Samsung phones and D-Link equipment can connect without issue.
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I'm aware that the bars can be played with by the carrier.
I used to lose my call twice on the way to work every day. Today I drove all the way without garble or a dropped call. I think the bars are real this time. I haven't checked the actual DB signal strength before so I don't have a good comparison.
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I'm aware that the bars can be played with by the carrier.
I used to lose my call twice on the way to work every day. Today I drove all the way without garble or a dropped call. I think the bars are real this time. I haven't checked the actual DB signal strength before so I don't have a good comparison.
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Not me, mine dropped the call this morning going through a dead spot
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toddnbrown said:
If the stupid "unstable" internet connection thing were to get fixed, I think I would finally have a perfect phone. And please don't say it's my router or that it works fine for you.... The wifi thing is a problem, and this is my second Note 3, and they both do the exact same thing. Everything else works fine with my router setup (FIOS), so to suggest that something needs changed there doesn't make any sense.
So, simply, does the OTA fix the WiFi connectivity problem?
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I will not tell you that it's your router, because I don't think it is. However, I will tell you that I think it must have something to do with the software/hardware interface or there is something conflicting in the phone, because I did not have the "unstable" wifi issue on MJ7 at all, and after the update to MJE, I get the error every now and then.
Just my experience.
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mwebb34 said:
Im having the exact same problem, and so are many many other people. Its starting to piss me off im paying full price for this damn phone and it should have anything that doesnt work rite. Verizon should give us people that on the verizon edge an option onstead of the same bull**** answer that they always give us.....
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Fortunately for me, I do have the unlimited data, so I always have the option to just use the LTE signal. If I didn't, I would have had to return the phone or my bill would be through the roof. Everything else works fine with my home WiFi, but the Note 3 gives me the "your internet connection is unstable" message, regardless of my proximity to the router i.e. sitting right next to it!! At this point, with there being 2 or 3 "updates" since the phone was released, I have to say it's looking like a hardware problem. Otherwise where's the fix? BTW this is my 2nd Note 3 as I returned the first one thinking I got a lemon. The new one does the exact same thing. Wifi is a pretty basic function of a phone. If they can't get that right, I may have to think twice before I buy Samsung again. Do they not do any testing?
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Fortunately for me, I do have the unlimited data, so I always have the option to just use the LTE signal. If I didn't, I would have had to return the phone or my bill would be through the roof. Everything else works fine with my home WiFi, but the Note 3 gives me the "your internet connection is unstable" message, regardless of my proximity to the router i.e. sitting right next to it!! At this point, with there being 2 or 3 "updates" since the phone was released, I have to say it's looking like a hardware problem. Otherwise where's the fix? BTW this is my 2nd Note 3 as I returned the first one thinking I got a lemon. The new one does the exact same thing. Wifi is a pretty basic function of a phone. If they can't get that right, I may have to think twice before I buy Samsung again. Do they not do any testing?
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I asked VZW tech the same question "Don't you people test the device before it gets sold”? Like you sir this makes my 2nd note 3 I bought my first one on the edge program around the first week of NOV of this year. Do you have talk signal bars when your WiFi drops or have you noticed? What I've noticed is that when I lose signal "talk"not "WiFi", then my WiFi drops. I talked to VZW tech yesterday and they said Samsung is aware of the WiFi problem and that Samsung is working on a patch that will fix this problem. I hope Samsung fixes this problem soon because if it doesn't get fixed I will never buy another Samsung device, I'll go back to Nexus.
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I found that when we're offshore and I don't have signal mine doesn't give the notice...As soon as I get service again it gives the notice. Our wifi onboard is extremely slow but it doesn't say anything when it's the only option
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This instability function is faulty and should be disabled.
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