Phone Not Booting HELP - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

This morning I had to force reboot my phone because it froze. But it never rebooted. Here I am 11 hours later, and it still won't boot up. I've tried everything; charging it, and trying to boot into recovery mode. No luck. Can someone please help me out?! The carrier will not send it to essential due to the fact that I did a sim card swap, and that voided the warranty. (BTW that's the stupidest thing I've in my life) HELP!!

Thomas Cloutier said:
This morning I had to force reboot my phone because it froze. But it never rebooted. Here I am 11 hours later, and it still won't boot up. I've tried everything; charging it, and trying to boot into recovery mode. No luck. Can someone please help me out?! The carrier will not send it to essential due to the fact that I did a sim card swap, and that voided the warranty. (BTW that's the stupidest thing I've in my life) HELP!!
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What firmware? Stock or custom rom?

garywojdan81 said:
What firmware? Stock or custom rom?
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Latest stock firmware. Has been sent to essential for repair/ replacement. Would still be nice to know what else I could have done.

You held the power button down until the phone completely powered off? I'm assuming you did but just checking. If Essential is taking the phone for repair presumably they made sure you did all the obvious things first.

jhs39 said:
You held the power button down until the phone completely powered off? I'm assuming you did but just checking. If Essential is taking the phone for repair presumably they made sure you did all the obvious things first.
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Yes I did everything the the girl on customer service told me to do. I'm wondering if maybe cause of it freezing had something to do with the ram?

Thomas Cloutier said:
This morning I had to force reboot my phone because it froze. But it never rebooted. Here I am 11 hours later, and it still won't boot up. I've tried everything; charging it, and trying to boot into recovery mode. No luck. Can someone please help me out?! The carrier will not send it to essential due to the fact that I did a sim card swap, and that voided the warranty. (BTW that's the stupidest thing I've in my life) HELP!!
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First, where are you? Country that is? In the US that is not a valid reason to void a warranty if you have the receipt.
Also how long are you holding the power button?
In some cases you might have to attach the charger and hold the button for 30-45 seconds.
Does the charging light come on?

Hold all three buttons for about 30 seconds, this forces a hard reboot

Thomas Cloutier said:
Yes I did everything the the girl on customer service told me to do. I'm wondering if maybe cause of it freezing had something to do with the ram?
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It could be caused by bad memory or a bad CPU. It's hard to say but if Essential customer support had you try different things they must think it's hardware failure. If you are in the US they aren't going to fix your phone and send it back to you. They're going to replace it with a refurbished phone. Hopefully they aren't like Google who more often than not sends customers refurbished phones that are defective when someone does an RMA. I haven't heard any similar horror stories about Essential so far. Essential also makes its own phones while Google uses an outside manufacturer so their situations are a bit different but owning two Google phones (Nexus 6P & Pixel XL) has made me wary where refurbished replacements are concerned. But Essential probably couldn't get away with what Google does without getting slammed in the tech press so you are likely pretty safe. Good luck.

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It could be caused by bad memory or a bad CPU. It's hard to say but if Essential customer support had you try different things they must think it's hardware failure. If you are in the US they aren't going to fix your phone and send it back to you. They're going to replace it with a refurbished phone. Hopefully they aren't like Google who more often than not sends customers refurbished phones that are defective when someone does an RMA. I haven't heard any similar horror stories about Essential so far. Essential also makes its own phones while Google uses an outside manufacturer so their situations are a bit different but owning two Google phones (Nexus 6P & Pixel XL) has made me wary where refurbished replacements are concerned. But Essential probably couldn't get away with what Google does without getting slammed in the tech press so you are likely pretty safe. Good luck.
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We'll see what they end up sending back next week, I'm I get a different phone, so I won't end up having the same issues. But then again I hope they can fix the issue on my phone

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I think I bricked my N1. Please help!

So I realized this the moment after I hit the trackball to select my .zip. To make things simple: I had cyanogen 5.0.6 and I accidentally flashed 2.2 for custom bootloaders. My phone won't even turn on...AT ALL. Am I ****ed?
Can you not get in the recovery image by holding down trackball and power button?
No. I don't know what to do. I flashed the Stock image earlier and it took awhile for my phone to turn on, but it did start up after a few minutes. Also it had a Radio that it flashed. Could it have been for the Tmobile model? I am on the AT&T version. Nothing will turn on.
did you try removing the battery ?
I did. I called support and they want me to send it in. Hopefully I will be one of the lucky people that HTC takes even if there is some broken rules.
xxjoshuaaxx said:
I did. I called support and they want me to send it in. Hopefully I will be one of the lucky people that HTC takes even if there is some broken rules.
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Awwww
Best of luck!
Since its just Software related, maybe you will get lucky
Exactly why I try to avoid toying with the radio at all times..
Stupid me didn't notice the radio change. What do you think HTC will do?
xxjoshuaaxx said:
Stupid me didn't notice the radio change. What do you think HTC will do?
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Good luck. They are currently denying my warranty - even though my last Nexus went in TWICE, and they even DOA replaced it with body damage and an unlocked bootloader. Both times they just reverted the software back to locked, no questions asked. This time, after sending in the refurbed phone they gave me last month due to a faulty headphone jack, they say my "illegal software" voids my warranty - even though software can't break a headphone jack.
SANTilt said:
Good luck. They are currently denying my warranty - even though my last Nexus went in TWICE, and they even DOA replaced it with body damage and an unlocked bootloader. Both times they just reverted the software back to locked, no questions asked. This time, after sending in the refurbed phone they gave me last month due to a faulty headphone jack, they say my "illegal software" voids my warranty - even though software can't break a headphone jack.
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That could also be their way of saying we have fixed two phones of yours with unlocked (voided) warranties, we aren't doing it a third time... aka, three strikes and you are out. To be honest, I would be singing the praises of a company that warrantied a phone twice, even though I knowingly voided my warranty and agreed to a contract saying as much during the process.
OP, good luck! As this person's history shows, they are willing to go above and beyond with in reason. If I were you, before sending it in, I would try tossing it on the charger to make sure the battery isn't dead... flashing uses up a lot of juice, and messes with battery stats to an extent that can cause the phone to think a low battery is actually a dead battery, thus it doesn't power on since it doesn't want to die mid boot, which is bad.
Yeah, plug it in and see if you get the charging led, if you do let it charge for a while. Then try booting to recovery. If you cant unplug it and pull the battery. Plug it back in and hold down the power button for 15 seconds, put the battery in while still holding the power button for another 15 seconds or so. You got nothing to lose if it is bricked so give it a go. Check back if it lights off. Just a hint but I only keep whatever I'm going to flash on the root of the sd with the rest of the zips in a file. Keeps you from being where you are now.
mind keepping the battery out for a little while. i got the same problem yesterday and this solved it : i kept the battery pulled for about 1 minute before i put it back in. then the phone powered on no problems.
SANTilt said:
Good luck. They are currently denying my warranty - even though my last Nexus went in TWICE, and they even DOA replaced it with body damage and an unlocked bootloader. Both times they just reverted the software back to locked, no questions asked. This time, after sending in the refurbed phone they gave me last month due to a faulty headphone jack, they say my "illegal software" voids my warranty - even though software can't break a headphone jack.
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What type of bad "luck" does somebody have to need a warranty replacement three times for a phone that's less than 4 months old?
xxjoshuaaxx said:
So I realized this the moment after I hit the trackball to select my .zip. To make things simple: I had cyanogen 5.0.6 and I accidentally flashed 2.2 for custom bootloaders. My phone won't even turn on...AT ALL. Am I ****ed?
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I may be stupid, but that doesn't sound like you were doing anything wrong. I think that is how many people upgraded to FroYo.
What did you do when you thought you had done the wrong thing? You say you realized the moment you hit the trackball. Did you then try to stop it by pulling the battery? If so then you may have pulled it while the radio was flashing, which would brick it for sure.
Maybe they say it's illegal because Froyo is not released yet and they saw part of it installed on your N1.
This sucks big time, I wish you best of luck and I hope they end up fixing it for you.
what happens when you hold volume down and hit power...does the bootloader come up?
I flashed 2.2 over enomther's 1.9.2 on my att frequency n1 and it is working fine, I did the radio update too and it works fine.
pjcforpres said:
That could also be their way of saying we have fixed two phones of yours with unlocked (voided) warranties, we aren't doing it a third time... aka, three strikes and you are out. To be honest, I would be singing the praises of a company that warrantied a phone twice, even though I knowingly voided my warranty and agreed to a contract saying as much during the process.
OP, good luck! As this person's history shows, they are willing to go above and beyond with in reason. If I were you, before sending it in, I would try tossing it on the charger to make sure the battery isn't dead... flashing uses up a lot of juice, and messes with battery stats to an extent that can cause the phone to think a low battery is actually a dead battery, thus it doesn't power on since it doesn't want to die mid boot, which is bad.
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Why would I sing the praises of a company that picks and chooses when it will void a warranty and when it will honor it? Furthermore, under the Manusson-Moss Warranty act of 1975, this behavior is illegal; warrantors of consumer goods cannot void a warranty due to modifications made by the consumer unless they can directly attribute the failure to the modification made. Which they have not done in my case.
Additionally, the first time it went in, was for dust under the screen - something an unlocked bootloader most definitely did not cause. The second time it went in was because they didn't fix it the first time - both times they relocked the phone. Also, the second time the phone went in, they DOA replaced it even though it had physical damage that I had previously been willing to pay for. And now, after they send me a damaged unit, they want to void my hardware warranty because the bootloader is unlocked? That just stinks of a money making scheme. I just called them, and they tell me that they cannot flash the motherboard due to the "illegal software", yet in the email they sent me it's all due to the warranty being void due to "illegal software". They're harping on a non-issue just to make money.
You can sing your praises to scheissty companies all you want - I'll stick to companies that are honest and up front in their dealings - or at least more so than HTFingC.
SANTilt said:
Why would I sing the praises of a company that picks and chooses when it will void a warranty and when it will honor it? Furthermore, under the Manusson-Moss Warranty act of 1975, this behavior is illegal; warrantors of consumer goods cannot void a warranty due to modifications made by the consumer unless they can directly attribute the failure to the modification made. Which they have not done in my case.
Additionally, the first time it went in, was for dust under the screen - something an unlocked bootloader most definitely did not cause. The second time it went in was because they didn't fix it the first time - both times they relocked the phone. Also, the second time the phone went in, they DOA replaced it even though it had physical damage that I had previously been willing to pay for. And now, after they send me a damaged unit, they want to void my hardware warranty because the bootloader is unlocked? That just stinks of a money making scheme. I just called them, and they tell me that they cannot flash the motherboard due to the "illegal software", yet in the email they sent me it's all due to the warranty being void due to "illegal software". They're harping on a non-issue just to make money.
You can sing your praises to scheissty companies all you want - I'll stick to companies that are honest and up front in their dealings - or at least more so than HTFingC.
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Dude, you're pedantic and this is pathetic. Get over yourself. If you expect consumer goods in this day and age to be perfect you need to reset your expectations. Three claims in four months? I bet HTC wishes you went and got a Motorola.
djmcnz said:
Dude, you're pedantic and this is pathetic. Get over yourself. If you expect consumer goods in this day and age to be perfect you need to reset your expectations. Three claims in four months? I bet HTC wishes you went and got a Motorola.
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Huh? Three claims? Reading comprehension much? English > you.
djmcnz said:
Dude, you're pedantic and this is pathetic. Get over yourself. If you expect consumer goods in this day and age to be perfect you need to reset your expectations. Three claims in four months? I bet HTC wishes you went and got a Motorola.
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Yeah I agree.

Rant: HTC's Awesome Repair Service

First off this is going to be a rant so if you guys do not want to read it then I suggest you leave now.
Also let me just clear things up, I am a 17 year old kid that needs his phone as much as possible. I am attached and I am not scared to admit it. I am very very tech savvy and know what I am doing with my phone in terms of flashing ROM's,kernels, recoveries, and rooting. I have been on androids side for over 5 years now and have been through almost every top end device. I have bricked one tablet in my past but noted to never do that again. I pay for all of my devices and work 2 jobs to counter my technology habit.
Story: One night I flashed a CM nightly as I am a pure stock android type of guy. Everything went through fine and I had a usable phone for the next few hours before I fell asleep. At about 4 in the morning I got a text and it woke me up. I went to check it and realized that my phone was incredibly hot so I figured that I would turn it off and turn it back on in about 10 minutes after it is all cooled off and then diagnose the problem. Before shutting off I also checked my battery stats with everything checking out just fine and the battery was sitting at about 65% charged. After the 10 minutes I went to turn on the phone and realized right off the bat that the charging LED was not on. Scared I tried every button combination to turn on the phone with no luck. I tried numerous chargers including my computer to even see if I could adb flash something onto it if it was software oriented with no avail. I officially had a paperweight of a phone and it wouldnt turn on nor charge.
So very frustrated and worried I contacted HTC support via online chat at about 6 my time which is 8 their time. The lady walked me through all the simple button combinations and even though I knew it would do me no good I tried them anyways. After several frustrating minutes we both gave up and the lady was starting to take about 5 minutes in between each response so after the 3 response or so I was even more frustrated. We decide to sign me up for a repair and about half way through the process she asks my age, given I am 17 she cannot finish the process which is understandable. However, this should be one of the very first starting questions rather than down the line when we are half way through the process. I digress, she tells me to call with an adult next time and also tells me about their other 2 repair options that she failed to even mention before, another very frustrating moment. Regardless we end the chat and I call back later.
A few hours later my mother calls HTC support to see what we can do and right off the bat this lady is so much more helpful and quick with her responses really knowing what she is talking about. She covers the other 2 options the person via chat failed to cover along with going very in depth as to how each process works. A $20 option seemed to suit me the best as they send you a phone immediately after receiving your phone sort of like a straight exchange. However, she tells us (My mother and I) that since HTC is running out on parts that this option isnt available at this time and to check back tomorrow as that's when the shipment of parts is coming in. So with our hands tied we hang up and I go about my day phoneless.
Fast forward to today, I go and get a loaner phone from tmobile along with a different sim. They charge me $50 dollars which will be refunded to me once I return the phone but mind you I don't have tons of money so this is an inconvenience. I call HTC again and ask them about their $20 swap option and the guy very enthusiastic gives me the description on how it works. After hearing all this I tell him that is indeed what I want to do and then that's when he tells me that bad news: HTC doesn't have enough inventory to do so leaving me with only one option, send in the phone and wait for the repair and shipping back (10-14 day process). Frustrated and running out of options (literally) I tell him to just do that. He goes over a ton of information in a short amount of time and then emphasizes that they have a very strict warranty and that if they find anything that they can conclude I did to cause the phone a shorter life span than I will be given a quote to fix my phone via email. I finally hang up but am on the edge at this point. If they cannot fix my phone for free I am going to be pissed. It will also mean that they will never receive my service again because I know for a fact that I did not cause this. A thread was made about this same exact problem so I know it wasnt a fault on my end. Regardless, I will keep you all updated.
Sorry I had to rant to someone that gets the absurdity of all this.
mj23kb24 said:
Sorry I had to rant to someone that gets the absurdity of all this.
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What's the absurdity? You understood the risks when you unlocked the bootloader; and in fact long before that since you're experienced with modding phones. And if HTC doesn't have inventory for the $20 swap, than there isn't anything they can do about that. Its not like they can make stock magically appear out of nowhere.
Did you try to leave the phone on the wall charger overnight, and see if the charging LED returned or you can power on, or get into bootloader?
redpoint73 said:
What's the absurdity? You understood the risks when you unlocked the bootloader; and in fact long before that since you're experienced with modding phones. And if HTC doesn't have inventory for the $20 swap, than there isn't anything they can do about that. Its not like they can make stock magically appear out of nowhere.
Did you try to leave the phone on the wall charger overnight, and see if the charging LED returned or you can power on, or get into bootloader?
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I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
I did and no power whats so ever. No charging LED and phone just sit off, I would love to even get into the bootloader at this point or to even see any signs of life.
mj23kb24 said:
I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
I did and no power whats so ever. No charging LED and phone just sit off, I would love to even get into the bootloader at this point or to even see any signs of life.
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Running completely different software on your phone can cause hardware problems. There are so many different variables that could have gone wrong, leading your phone to overheat. Especially considering it was a Nightly.
"...if they find anything that they can conclude I did to cause the phone a shorter life span than I will be given a quote to fix my phone via email."
Overclocking at all will reduce the life span. Which I'm not saying you have, but it's pretty much common practice around here. (I certainly have)
Maybe you should take the warning it gives you about unlocking your phone more seriously. And not blame HTC for wanting to fix a problem you caused.
xxquicksh0txx said:
Running completely different software on your phone can cause hardware problems. There are so many different variables that could have gone wrong, leading your phone to overheat. Especially considering it was a Nightly.
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I guess so. I just figured that many other HTC phones have had this problem in the past (Including the M8) so it was just something on their end.
Also I have never OC'ed but have UC'ed.
mj23kb24 said:
I just think that if it is purely a hardware issue and they deny me warranty over a software unlock then its bogus. Also I think its sad that a phone company does not have enough inventory.
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Ideologically I agree that they should not deny you warranty for a hardware issue. But its the terms of their warranty and the terms of the bootloader unlock (both of which are spelled out clearly) that you have voided the warranty.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best.
Mhm, stuff like this is a large part of why they try to lock phones down in the first place.
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redpoint73 said:
Ideologically I agree that they should not deny you warranty for a hardware issue. But its the terms of their warranty and the terms of the bootloader unlock (both of which are spelled out clearly) that you have voided the warranty.
Keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best.
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Will do man thanks. Many people have brought up points on here that I was tunnel visioned too. I do still think that it was a rare hardware fluke though.
Thread closed as these are classed as off topic threads,
Many thanks,
Ghost

Note 4 completly dead

My snapdragon phone started acting weird today. Was slow and locked up for many minutes doing just simple tasks.
Took a backup of the phone and ran a factory reset.
The phone was fast and smooth after this and i was satisfied. But then i did a reboot, and the phone never booted again.
It does not even charge. Just dead.
Anyone else had this issue? Had the phone since release, and it has never been rooted or anything that would break warranty, so i will contact the place i bought it from.
But can this might be battery related? In that case it would be much easier for me to get a new battery.
Have tried to charge it for a while without any result. Does not seem to draw any power either as the charger is cold..
but when i plug it in the pc, windows detects something for about 2 seconds, but claims it's unrecognizable...
Rocking my Nexus 4 now, smooth phone with android 6.0, but camera and battery sucks bigtime... I want my note back..
I have exact same problem. But my phone was rooted and service center told me my warranty is void. They told me the mainboard is bad and need to be replaced. It will cost about half of the new phone price...
Try pressing "Vol +" + "Vol -" + "Lock" + "Start" buttons for a few seconds
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sbehring said:
I have exact same problem. But my phone was rooted and service center told me my warranty is void. They told me the mainboard is bad and need to be replaced. It will cost about half of the new phone price...
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Take it to a different store from your carrier and this time don't tell them its been rooted. Tell them it hasn't been if they ask and they should replace it.
Have tried every combination possible with holding in buttons. No sign of life.. Good thing i got a backup while it was still "working"
I have had many plans to root the device and get in some custom ROM but i have been satisfied with stock and never found the time to do it, and i am happy for that now
Sorry for posting in the wrong place. Maby an admin can move this post?
Welcome to the party, almost the same thing happened to me except it failed to do a factory reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-sm-n910w8-t3249970/post63890570#post63890570
Just taking out the battery and inserting it back again properly solved it for me... , Ur battery might not be fitting properly pls check ?
XproZayd said:
Welcome to the party, almost the same thing happened to me except it failed to do a factory reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-sm-n910w8-t3249970/post63890570#post63890570
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Thanks for the information. I guess my motherboard is dead then..
Senthil360 said:
Just taking out the battery and inserting it back again properly solved it for me... , Ur battery might not be fitting properly pls check
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This has been checked and it's not the problem. But thanks for suggestion.
If i get a new Note 4 on warranty i will probably sell it and get a Nexus phone, or install an clean ROM right away. Stock android is so much smoother than touchwiz.
Samsura said:
Thanks for the information. I guess my motherboard is dead then..
This has been checked and it's not the problem. But thanks for suggestion.
If i get a new Note 4 on warranty i will probably sell it and get a Nexus phone, or install an clean ROM right away. Stock android is so much smoother than touchwiz.
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Yeah, i don't know why the note 4s hard brick them selfs like that, must be a bug/glitch.
Seems like the store i bought it from has 2 years warranty. But in Norway we anyway have a 5 year "mini warranty" on electronics that is decided by law. So if the problem is not caused by mistreatment or water damage you should get it fixed for free within 5 years anyway.
Motherboard was faulty (as suspected)
Try to re-install a stock firmware (latest version) from sammobile with odin. This is the fast mode to revover your phone .

I am very disappointed with Google

To whomsoever it may concern. Yes that's what my state of mind is right now.
I will begin from the beginning then.
So heard on 4th October 2016 that google is launching it's Pixel phones. Couldn't have been more excited with the news as I am a big android fan boy. I had been using the Nexus 6p then, so the news of the Pixel phones was really pleasing to me.
I wait for the Pixels to get launched in India. 26th October 2016 is the date. I pre-order my Pixel XL very silver 128 GB before hand and receive the handset on 26th! Very happy!!
I haven't ever used a better phone than the Pixel XL. The smoothest android experience. Period.
So a month passes by. The phone does overheat from time to time but other than that it worked fine. My "rock solid" Pixel XL gets about 40 GB full. One fine day, while I was trying to open a PDF from my drive, the device freezes and reboots. Nothing to worry, sometime android does that, I think to myself. Same day, Gmail freezes and the phone reboots. Then the Camera freezes and it reboots. Now I started to see a pattern. Tried uninstalling apps one by one, to pin point the root cause. Found nothing. Tried Safe Mode. Still it would freeze and reboot. Finally, made my peace with a factory reset. The phone started behaving. I told myself that I must be some rogue app.
This cycle continues again when the phone reaches that 40 GB mark. It would freeze and reboot. Factory reset once again. It works fine.
So I start suspecting the phone internal memory. I fill up the around 80 GB with random videos and music. The restarts start happening like clockwork.
Come 6th December 2016, and I receive the 7.1.1 update. Everything goes smooth. The phone acts normal, for sometime at least. I call up Google Support on the 8th and the guy tells me to take my phone to the service center.
Moments after, I see my phone restarting. It boots up and it's sitting on my table. In about five minutes, while lying idle on the table, it reboots. And this time, it reboots to boot-loader. I try to start the phone with the power key and the volume keys by choosing the right option. It boots back to boot-loader. Doesn't load up android. So somehow my phone was soft bricked just sitting idle on the table.
I am not new to the fastboot mode and decide to flash the stock rom. However, there is this issue that i suddenly see. The fastboot screen on my phone says Baseband : N/A and my bootloader is locked! The only option I see to get android up and running is using stock recovery and sideloading the Stock ROM, which should have worked as Google Stock ROMS are signed and might have not need unlocked bootloader(I did my research). I select recovery, and surprise surprise! The phone says recovery can't be loaded, press any key to go back!!
So now my phone has no OS, no baseband, no recovery with a locked bootloader! And i don't know how it happened!
I take the phone to the service center today around 11 am. They can't make sense of what happened. They say they would keep the phone for sometime. I get a call from them around 4, which was like half an hour back. The guy tells me there is a power button issue and another hardware issue(which he doesn't specify) and tells me they will keep the phone for 2 days. And repair it!
WHAT!?! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU REPAIRING MY PHONE GOOGLE!?! It's a new phone, not even 2 months old! And it doesn't come cheap! For the price amount I would expect it to work flawlessly!! I ask the service guy for replacement unit, and he says it is more than 14 days old, and gives me all terms and conditions! The problems that I had with this phone couldn't have been foreseen!! Till the time the internal storage gets to about 30 percent full the restarting issue did not show itself.
I expect a replacement unit or a full refund. Because this is just not fair! Not really happy with you Google. Thanks!
P.S.: thanks for reading this.
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I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
Or
If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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So you are angry that Google are fixing the device for you at no charge to yourself? Things go wrong sometimes, sounds like Google are looking after you nicely.
You will get your phone back in the same condition you gave it to them - with the issues resolved.
Or
If they can't fix it, they will replace it.
What's the issue?
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He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
johnciaccio said:
He wants a new phone. I understand. From my experience when things like this go wrong like this they keep going wrong. It is a phone not a new car. I am surprised they did not give him a new phone and call it a day.
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Agree
Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
ithehappy said:
I am not getting it! You mean that the phone you had, had no hardware problems? So if its software only, then why did you submit the phone at service centre at first place? And in case they are offering you a repair service, or a new phone, what is the problem with that? From the sound of it it does sound like a hardware problem anyway, repetitive problems are never software. In fact you should be rather thankful that they accepted the phone and offering you a free service, cause a lot of reviews say that HTC service centre is asking money for a phone which is just one month old and sorts like that.
And you probably are one unlucky fella where the phone might have come with a hardware problem, cause most seem happy with theirs anyway. I am not defending Pixel or its ridiculous price point anyway.
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It is a hardware problem only, the phone worked fine till the 40 GB or so mark. And yeah, seem to feel unlucky about this now.
Also, I am not bashing HTC for this, they were pretty nice and they are doing their job. I understand that. Just not happy about the situation I am in that's all.
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Honestly what's the difference? If they fix it and it's working again then it should be no different than a new unit. unless you've damaged the device and wanted to get a new one with no damage I don't understand.
So if you get a new car from a dealer and it has an issue you would demand a new car instead of letting them repair it? Sounds pretty dumb to me.
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I wish i would have damaged the device just so that I would have something to blame this on.
And as for the car issue, you would want a new car, won't you? They will indeed repair it, however, a customer asking for a new car which works doesn't sound dumb to me.
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Guarantee this is caused by a bad memory chip. The only way to fix it is to replace the chip (which I highly doubt can be done at a service center) or the motherboard. I had a Nexus 4 that had the same issue. Eventually I could not even write a new system image at all.
At least demand a written explanation of what was done to correct the problem so if it continues after being repaired you can demand a new unit. If they are replacing the board you should be good to go.
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Thought as much. Thanks for reading the long post!!:good:
sanke1 said:
Pretty sure that the NAND chips are faulty. That is why after that chip gets written with data, phone starts to act up.
It may not be easy to replace just the faulty chip. Either they will replace the whole logic board or give you a new piece.
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The problem is when they eventually return the phone, it would be hard for me to understand if the problem persists until I get a PC in front of me and fill up the device. And the problem is pretty random too. Thanks for the reply though.
No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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TL;DR
Cliff notes?
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Got a faulty Pixel XL, issue with the logic board(based on what i have read on this discussion so far), not really happy with HTC opening my new phone and repairing it. I paid for a new phone and I want a new phone which works! I know I am whining a bit.
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No problem. Been in similar shoes. You are not getting anything for free here.. It is one of the most expensive phones out there and you paid for a new device. Not one that has been reopened after being assembled. Check it carefully for scratches after getting it back.
I do not even like my car being worked on. Nothing is as perfect as when it comes from the factory.
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You read my mind!! Totally agree!!:good:
At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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At least it will be fixed. I purchased my Nexus 4 from a reseller so Google refused to warranty it even though it was completely sealed and new when purchased. Google hates resellers, which I understand the reason, but it is not a good policy to have.
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It surely is not a good policy to have. And with the pixel devices the resellers were a part of the launch process. It was not like we had to wait for a few days after it was available online. It was almost the same time. I hope i get my device as soon as possible in working condition, because as I mentioned earlier, I love the phone. Also I have been using a prehistoric Nokia 1100 which I found in some corner of my house as I don't have any other back up device currently.
I'm just impressed that Google had a service center in Bangalore.
Yeah sucks. Let us know how it goes.

Nexus 6P Stuck in a boot loop even after stock image

Hey guys, I was using my phone today as per usual but for some reason, the app I was using crashed and then the phone shut off. The phone then went into a boot loop and I thought it'd be an easy fix to just reformat the phone/factory reset, however, these solutions didn't work.
So I went to Factory Image for Nexus and installed 7.1.2 (N2G48B, Jul 2017) with the script and line by line but there is still no success. The phone just turns on, has the "Google" boot screen then turns back off. I am unable to get into recovery and nothing that I tried worked.
I tried looking around for a fix and there are some wacky solutions that people have used and had some success like using a heat gun on it and letting it die out but I feel like that's unsafe.
I also tried this but it also didn't work.
Can anyone help me with this issue?
(Also my 6P is out of warranty so I'm pretty much screwed)
Update:
I contacted Google first, then Contacted Huawei about the same issue. Explained to Google what was wrong, then Huawei and Huawei told me to just contact a 3rd party repair shop to see if they can fix it. I looked at motherboard replacements for my 6P and it costs around $200-$300. I thought that was a bit insane, so I contacted Google again in hopes of them replacing my 6P despite it not being under warranty. I explained to them that I contacted Huawei about to issue, then looked all over the internet to find a solution to the problem and they understood that I was frustrated with this problem so they replaced my device! Took a lot of explaining but it all worked out.
tl;dr contacted google to RMA my device even though it is not under a warranty. Also, as far as I know there is no solution to this problem except replacing the motherboard.
vraj1470 said:
Hey guys, I was using my phone today as per usual but for some reason, the app I was using crashed and then the phone shut off. The phone then went into a boot loop and I thought it'd be an easy fix to just reformat the phone/factory reset, however, these solutions didn't work.
So I went to Factory Image for Nexus and installed 7.1.2 (N2G48B, Jul 2017) with the script and line by line but there is still no success. The phone just turns on, has the "Google" boot screen then turns back off. I am unable to get into recovery and nothing that I tried worked.
I tried looking around for a fix and there are some wacky solutions that people have used and had some success like using a heat gun on it and letting it die out but I feel like that's unsafe.
I also tried this but it also didn't work.
Can anyone help me with this issue?
(Also my 6P is out of warranty so I'm pretty much screwed)
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First, check a few things. Can you enter recovery mode? When flashing stock, did you flash all the images separately after extracting the stock zip and run the format user data command afterwards?. What do you see in device manager when plugging your phone in while in bootloader?
DEVILOPS 007 said:
First, check a few things. Can you enter recovery mode? When flashing stock, did you flash all the images separately after extracting the stock zip and run the format user data command afterwards?. What do you see in device manager when plugging your phone in while in bootloader?
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I cannot enter recovery mode. I called Huawei and they said "When you are in bootloader, go to Recovery mode option and then when you press the power button, hold the power button in and the Volume Up button to get into recovery." I tried these steps but it doesn't work.
I first used the script that was given in the folder to flash the stock image but it didn't work. So I did the steps manually and still had no luck. I do not know what you mean when you say "format user data" command. The instructions on the google website doesn't say to do this step. Also, I assumed that all the data is erased when I locked and unlocked the bootloader.
When I plug it into my computer, My device manager says this: https://puu.sh/wJBzI/f7fa02b291.png
i am literally having the same problem. Just a random bootloop in the middle of the day. cant get to recovery, did a full factory reset, even relocked, stuck in a google logo bootloop. followed step 10 in this thread
Same issue here. I can get into bootloader and recovery. Have tried flashing all sorts of different firmwares, sideloaded many OTA's.
in TWRP if I try to backup or restore it craps out a few percent in.
Andrewbud said:
Same issue here. I can get into bootloader and recovery. Have tried flashing all sorts of different firmwares, sideloaded many OTA's.
in TWRP if I try to backup or restore it craps out a few percent in.
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Have you tried formating partions?
Wow this seems like a common issue..I'm surprised that there isn't a fix for it already. I'll keep this post updated if I find a fix for the issue, but as for now, I'm waiting for my phone to die out and seeing if I can do anything from there.
vraj1470 said:
Wow this seems like a common issue..I'm surprised that there isn't a fix for it already. I'll keep this post updated if I find a fix for the issue, but as for now, I'm waiting for my phone to die out and seeing if I can do anything from there.
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BLOD is a hardware issue. No recovery mode= S.O.L. Time to move on.
Exodusche said:
Have you tried formating partions?
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Some but not all.
If I wanted to format all possible partitions which would they be?
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Some but not all.
If I wanted to format all possible partitions which would they be?
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Not sure I just did data and cache. Don't believe mine was true BLOD but presented same symptoms.
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First, check a few things. Can you enter recovery mode? When flashing stock, did you flash all the images separately after extracting the stock zip and run the format user data command afterwards?. What do you see in device manager when plugging your phone in while in bootloader?
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v12xke said:
BLOD is a hardware issue. No recovery mode= S.O.L. Time to move on.
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I find it hard to belive it's ****ed beyond all repair...It's a pretty new phone and there still isnt any solution for it? That's insane.
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I find it hard to belive it's ****ed beyond all repair...It's a pretty new phone and there still isnt any solution for it? That's insane.
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Out of warranty? Well, sure you can buy a motherboard and swap it out for more than the phone is worth... or just buy another phone?
v12xke said:
Out of warranty? Well, sure you can buy a motherboard and swap it out for more than the phone is worth... or just buy another phone?
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It's out of warranty.
But why would a phone that was made in 2015 break in 2017. A 2 year life cycle? It's so infuriating that I spent $550 on a phone and now the only other option for me to use this phone after a year and a half is to either buy a new motherboard for the phone or get a new one.
Got an rma with Huawei Canada. Purchased from telus Dec 1 2015
I don't wanna sound like an ass but clearly folks are not reading and searching before posting. This BLOD issue has so many different threads it's now silly. Boot loop with no recovery equals dead. Period. If you have recovery available, them keep plugging away at the options people's have offered in countless threads. As a parting note, just scroll down passed this past for say the next 40 and count the number of posts about boot looping. It might surprise you... Sorry for the rant...
I have the BLOD as well. 16 month old phone bought from Best Buy, so Google and Huawei have both given me the middle finger. I'm so [email protected]#king pissed about it.
I've been able to do the hairdryer trick to get the phone up and running again, but I can't really do anything beyond texting. The moment I do anything proc-intensive that would cause it to flip to the big cluster I'm back to the BLOD and fishing out my wife's hairdryer again. It's lunacy.
I'm curious as to how big of a fraction of the N6Ps are affected by this. Like CyberpodS2 said, there are a bazillion threads about this now, so how many Nexuses have sh$t the bed at this point? Seems like a lot (although the internet is admittedly a very noisy place)...
mustardayonnaise said:
I have the BLOD as well. 16 month old phone bought from Best Buy, so Google and Huawei have both given me the middle finger. I'm so [email protected]#king pissed about it.
I've been able to do the hairdryer trick to get the phone up and running again, but I can't really do anything beyond texting. The moment I do anything proc-intensive that would cause it to flip to the big cluster I'm back to the BLOD and fishing out my wife's hairdryer again. It's lunacy.
I'm curious as to how big of a fraction of the N6Ps are affected by this. Like CyberpodS2 said, there are a bazillion threads about this now, so how many Nexuses have sh$t the bed at this point? Seems like a lot (although the internet is admittedly a very noisy place)...
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I saw all of the posts about the bootloop. I just couldn't find a solution to the problem so I posted again with a post thst had detailed things on what I did. It's insane how there is no fix for it though. It's even a common problem and Google/Huawei doesn't cover it unless its under warranty...
I was able to contact Google about the situation and they sent me a replacement. I'm considering selling the unit they sent me..
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I saw all of the posts about the bootloop. I just couldn't find a solution to the problem so I posted again with a post thst had detailed things on what I did. It's insane how there is no fix for it though. It's even a common problem and Google/Huawei doesn't cover it unless its under warranty...
I was able to contact Google about the situation and they sent me a replacement. I'm considering selling the unit they sent me..
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You should unload it on Craigslist/Ebay/whatever ASAP, in my opinion. Use the equity to buy a better, more stable phone... I love the Pixel but it costs a lot... at least it's not ****ing Huawei. Screw this goddamn phone.
I've picked up an LG G5 as a stopgap until I can figure out what my next move is. I'm just really annoyed because I had planned on keeping the 6P for at least 3 years; I'm not big on constantly upgrading.. I like to buy a high-end product that will last me a long time and that I won't have to worry about. I didn't even make halfway to that ownership goal.
mustardayonnaise said:
I have the BLOD as well. 16 month old phone bought from Best Buy, so Google and Huawei have both given me the middle finger. I'm so [email protected]#king pissed about it.
I've been able to do the hairdryer trick to get the phone up and running again, but I can't really do anything beyond texting. The moment I do anything proc-intensive that would cause it to flip to the big cluster I'm back to the BLOD and fishing out my wife's hairdryer again. It's lunacy.
I'm curious as to how big of a fraction of the N6Ps are affected by this. Like CyberpodS2 said, there are a bazillion threads about this now, so how many Nexuses have sh$t the bed at this point? Seems like a lot (although the internet is admittedly a very noisy place)...
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Oh the same thing happened here with my 64gig version. My warranty expired in April and Phone BLOD in June in the middle of the day while i was listening to music at office. Had to spend the rest of the day jumping through loops with either google and huawei. The end result was motherboard replacement and since i had no warranty they wanted to give 25k (390$) (New 32gb comes at around 22k). I tried all the options that were available here on XDA but nothing worked. I am so disappointed in huawei and google, I've seen cases in US where they replace the device even when warranty is expired but not here, the customer care services are sorely lacking at my place. Week after bought One Plus 5 which is loads better than 6P and you don't even need to root it as most of things that needed root comes per-loaded in their Settings and no bloatware whatsoever.
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You should unload it on Craigslist/Ebay/whatever ASAP, in my opinion. Use the equity to buy a better, more stable phone... I love the Pixel but it costs a lot... at least it's not ****ing Huawei. Screw this goddamn phone.
I've picked up an LG G5 as a stopgap until I can figure out what my next move is. I'm just really annoyed because I had planned on keeping the 6P for at least 3 years; I'm not big on constantly upgrading.. I like to buy a high-end product that will last me a long time and that I won't have to worry about. I didn't even make halfway to that ownership goal.
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Yeah, I'm probably gonna sell it and wait for the Galaxy Note 8 maybe. I'm going to stick with my 3 year old HTC one M8 in the meantime...Also, What do you think the asking price is for the Nexus 6P 64GB model is?

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