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I'm going to buy the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 SM-N910W8 from amazon.com, I seen that's the canadian version. The buyer says that's compatible with all GSMs worldwide, not only in North America. As I'm from Argentina, and the bands in Argentina are GSM-850 and 1900 MHz, does it work here? Also, the 4G LTE is coming to my country by the end of next year, with 1700/2100 Mhz and 700 Mhz bands for it. Does it work here?
GSM Arena says that the SM-N910W8 is compatible with:
3G- HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - N910W8
4G LTE- LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17) - N910W8
As I don't know about this (never seen the compatible bands when I buy a phone as it's the first time I buy one from USA), I don't understand if that means that's compatible or not.
Other question: What SoC does it have? Snapdragon 805 or Exynos? If it's Snapdragon, does it means that's compatible with Roms of other models?
Help please! Thanks!
If you can live with (potentially) reduced lte coverage then no reason you shouldn't go for it.
If you want to ensure maximum coverage then you should really find out what 700mhz band is to be used in your country (band 17 or 28).
Acording to Wikipedia 700MHz band 28
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Which version of Samsung Note 4 phone is a better buy? SM-N910A vs SM-N910W8 [Moved
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
Thanks to everyone, I just decided to buy the N910C version due to I'm sure that it will work in my country (as it's the model that will come here officially). "Preparing for Shipping" says Amazon, I cannot wait!
NYCgirl said:
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
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According to the data, your statement should be correct.
vndnguyen said:
According to the data, your statement should be correct.
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Yes, I just want to verify that I'm not missing anything.
the 910U is better for you. its exynos and works well in north america and europe and most of asia.
That's right. According to Samsung, SM-N910U supports LTE on "B1(2100),B2(1900),B3(1800),B4(AWS),B5(850),B7(2600),B8(900),B28(700)". In Europe, bands 3, 7 and 20 are commonly used.
Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
I was also confused about all the band stuff. I am on AT&T myself and I just purchased a note 4 sm-n910c. it is the exynos version (some people don't want that) but it supposedly works great with AT&T lte. The phone arrives on Wednesday soo I personally don't know. But I did alot of research before purchasing.
My current att branded note edge (i assume same as note 4) supports
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B17(700), B20(800);
And the 910c supports:
LTE 800 / 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
You may also want to look into the sm-n910u
Thanks! So according to the source below, a "band" is simply a range of radio frequencies. That's why there's an overlap between "radio frequencies" and "LTE bands".
radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
My impression is that the more frequencies a device has, the better it performs across carriers, when roaming. And of course, any carrier is better off selling a device that's customized to its own network, thereby making switching carriers more difficult. I guess that this is why the AT&T model has fewer frequencies than the non-AT&T model.
By the way, the seller of the SM-N910W8 assured me that the device is capable of the same LTE speeds at a SM-N910A.
Right every carrier uses specific bands of frequency. Some work on multiple carries. For instance the t-mobile note 4 work on ATT network.
I don't know much about the 910w8 but yes the more bands it supports the more universal it will be across carriers. Of course GSM phones will not work on CDMA networks like version and sprint
Craleb said:
Right every carrier uses specific bands of frequency. Some work on multiple carries.
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That's right. And my hunch is that carriers limit their branded phones (the subsidized phones they sell). This way, the phone will perform best only on their network. At least in the case of AT&T, I can't find another explantion why their branded phone (SM-N910A) supports fewer bands than a non-AT&T branded phone (like the SM-N910W8).
Does iPhone have these restrictions... Just curious
magichoward said:
Does iPhone have these restrictions... Just curious
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Yes, the iPhone is also frequency restricted. Manufacturers do it to help carriers (which are their big customers, not us retail customers). Carriers use the frequency restrictions to curb cross-border sales and limit your ability to switch to a competitor, even if you paid for your device.
Iphone 6 A1522 (GSM)
LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)
Iphone 6 A1524 (CDMA):
FDD-LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (band 38, 39, 40, 41)
(I found the data in "Galaxy Note4 Firmware - All Models")
The version that ends in W8 is the Latin American version. The T-Mobile version is compatible with most bands.
Att has locked boot loader, as well as vzw. If your into rooting and flashing custom Roms, stay away from those phone's.
jaxenroth said:
Att has locked boot loader, as well as vzw
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Thanks! I didn't know that. So now the AT&T version (SM-N910A) is definitely off the table. It's down to two models. Both will support all of AT&T LTE bands, but one adds full support for European LTE and the other adds full support for T-Mobile US.
SM-N910C, which has Exynos CPU and supports 800 Mhz and 4G band 20, which one of the three bands common in Europe.
SM-N910W8, which has Snapdragon CPU and supports 4G band 12, which means full support for T-Mobile 4G.
arjun90 said:
The version that ends in W8 is the Latin American version. The T-Mobile version is compatible with most bands.
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Yes, the T-Mobile version (which I see is the one you one) has the same bands as the 910W8 and the same CPU. The advantage (for me) is that I can buy it from T-Mobile and receive warranty.
The T-Mobile version is the appropriate one for you, especially since you will receive warranty from Samsung USA.
NYCgirl said:
Yes, the T-Mobile version (which I see is the one you one) has the same bands as the 910W8 and the same CPU. The advantage (for me) is that I can buy it from T-Mobile and receive warranty.
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Hey everyone, thanks for taking the time to try and help me out! I am possibly going to spend about 4 months in Hong Kong, starting with this upcoming January. I am really having trouble figuring out if this phone can be used there. It seems like it has the bands for most of the 3G networks there, but can anyone possibly help me confirm this? I would also love LTE, but I don't think this phone has the proper LTE bands for Hong Kong. I tried contacting T-Mobile (I currently have Verizon but may get T-Mobile there), and they told me to contact a Hong Kong carrier. I found the number 2 carrier there, and sent them emails and Facebook messages, and have not heard back. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Basically, I just want to know if the MXPE supports 3G and/or LTE bands in Hong Kong. If it does, I won't have to buy a phone to use while I am there. Thanks!
P.S. The Hong Kong carrier I am looking at is Hong Kong China Mobile.
Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.
pinoymutt said:
Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.
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Awesome! It seemed like I was gonna get 3G but I was having trouble making sure that I would get LTE. Mainly because I looked at a Xiaomi Hong Kong phone and it mentioned FDD and I think TDP LTE and I was really confused!
My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.
dplcj said:
My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.
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Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.
chris23445 said:
Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.
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Smartone might be worth taking a look at also.
FYI not all prepaid plans have 4G or LTE. csl just started offering it on prepaid within the last year. I don't know what other carriers have LTE on prepaid so you will need to do some research.
I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.
mic325 said:
I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.
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I use UK version of the MOTO X STYLE in Hong Kong too:good:
About to move overseas and looking at a phone to take with me to have working as soon as I throw a sim in it. My question is, if I purchase a Axon 7 from Best Buy will it work on the bands throughout the UK and Germany? Thanks in advance for any help.
I don't know which bands the US-version of the Axon 7 supports but in Germany you will need Band 3 and 20.
3 in crowded citys and 20 on the countryside.
7 is also assigned but mostly unused (only by O2/Telefonica I think).
These Bands are supportet by the European-version:
TD-LTE：Band 38/40/41
FDD-LTE： Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/19/20/28AB
UMTS： Band 1/2/4/5/8
GSM： Band 2/3/5/8
The retail price with taxes included in Germany for the Axon 7/4GB764GB is 449€
jonesdx said:
About to move overseas and looking at a phone to take with me to have working as soon as I throw a sim in it. My question is, if I purchase a Axon 7 from Best Buy will it work on the bands throughout the UK and Germany? Thanks in advance for any help.
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It will work in Germany and in the UK.
homer667 said:
I don't know which bands the US-version of the Axon 7 supports but in Germany you will need Band 3 and 20.
3 in crowded citys and 20 on the countryside.
7 is also assigned but mostly unused (only by O2/Telefonica I think).
These Bands are supportet by the European-version:
TD-LTE：Band 38/40/41
FDD-LTE： Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/19/20/28AB
UMTS： Band 1/2/4/5/8
GSM： Band 2/3/5/8
The retail price with taxes included in Germany for the Axon 7/4GB764GB is 449€
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The US model has the same GSM and HSPA bands as the European/Global model (as well as CDMA support), and LTE bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/29/30/25/26/41.
So the only difference between US and Europe model is the charger plug and warranty? the devices are 100% equal?
ZB631KL seems to be the only readily available device in North America, I am wondering which LTE bands it supports exactly, as descriptions are contradicting.
ASUS very own tech specs page for the phone lists "B Version" as having B version Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 18, 19, 28 but AFAIK there is no way to take a device and check what it supports; all I learned was that you can use s/w to see what band you're currently on...but not what the hardware supports.
Anyway, does anyone know for sure? I believe I ordered one of these https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-ZenFone...l&qid=1571320153&sprefix=zb631,aps,172&sr=8-1 and the one that showed up indicated it was an Indonesian model, though, it worked with my USA T-Mobile SIM without issue.