Hong Kong - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone, thanks for taking the time to try and help me out! I am possibly going to spend about 4 months in Hong Kong, starting with this upcoming January. I am really having trouble figuring out if this phone can be used there. It seems like it has the bands for most of the 3G networks there, but can anyone possibly help me confirm this? I would also love LTE, but I don't think this phone has the proper LTE bands for Hong Kong. I tried contacting T-Mobile (I currently have Verizon but may get T-Mobile there), and they told me to contact a Hong Kong carrier. I found the number 2 carrier there, and sent them emails and Facebook messages, and have not heard back. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Basically, I just want to know if the MXPE supports 3G and/or LTE bands in Hong Kong. If it does, I won't have to buy a phone to use while I am there. Thanks!
P.S. The Hong Kong carrier I am looking at is Hong Kong China Mobile.

Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.

pinoymutt said:
Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.
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Awesome! It seemed like I was gonna get 3G but I was having trouble making sure that I would get LTE. Mainly because I looked at a Xiaomi Hong Kong phone and it mentioned FDD and I think TDP LTE and I was really confused!

My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.

dplcj said:
My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.
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Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.

chris23445 said:
Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.
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Smartone might be worth taking a look at also.
FYI not all prepaid plans have 4G or LTE. csl just started offering it on prepaid within the last year. I don't know what other carriers have LTE on prepaid so you will need to do some research.

I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.

mic325 said:
I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.
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I use UK version of the MOTO X STYLE in Hong Kong too:good:

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Xperia Tablet Z Variants

Hi,
I just wanted to create a place where all the Variants are listed for a better overview:
WLAN (Wi-Fi) only
SGP311 (16GB)
SGP312 (32GB)
GSM/HSPA+/LTE
SGP321 (16GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 8
LTE: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20
SGP331 ?
SGP341 (16GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 2, 4, 5
SGP351 (16GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 2, 4, 5
LTE: 4
SO-03E (32 GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
Additional information:
SGP341 and SGP351 are identical in hardware!!
So with a SGP351 FW on the SGP341 you can enable LTE band 4
SO-03E can be debranded with SGP321 Firmware - but the 32GB Memory will be formated as 16GB
Greetings
UserX10
If there is a mistake or you have additional information - please let me know.
Thanks to all users below for providing additional information.
SGP341 is HSPA+ only (no LTE) 16GB.
Bands:
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
I'm looking for a white global LTE model (SGP321), but as far as I can see anywhere, only the 32GB wifi only comes in white (not interested in Docomo branded hardware.
If anyone has any links or reliable purchasing sources with worldwide shipping for this, please post.
Sony Tablet Z
The "SGP351" model number is for an HSPA/LTE variant that appears to be for T-Mobile USA. I am too new to post links but you can find a link to the FCC filing for the device, as well as SGP341, via TmoNews or Wireless Goodness.
Yes, I am keeping a close eye on this one.
Does any of the variants comes with a charger in the box ?
Mine was Docomo version - comes with Headphones & Charging Dock !!
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The SO-03E (docomo version) only supports LTE bands 1/19/21
Currently with stock firmware at least anyway, maybe when developers get their hands on a modem files from the SGP321 the other bands might get unlocked, unless its a hardware restriction
electric0ant said:
The SO-03E (docomo version) only supports LTE bands 1/19/21
Currently with stock firmware at least anyway, maybe when developers get their hands on a modem files from the SGP321 the other bands might get unlocked, unless its a hardware restriction
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Band support is hardware-limited. The only thing you can hope for in some cases is unlocking additional modes in already-supported bands (like Nexus 4 LTE support for 1700 MHz.)
Qualcomm's WTR RF frontends support nearly all bands in existence *but not simultaneously in a single device* - bandswitching and filters are unique to each device.
Take a look at the first diagram at http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25 - the RFFE portion of that diagram differs between each device.
Entropy512 said:
Band support is hardware-limited. The only thing you can hope for in some cases is unlocking additional modes in already-supported bands (like Nexus 4 LTE support for 1700 MHz.)
Qualcomm's WTR RF frontends support nearly all bands in existence *but not simultaneously in a single device* - bandswitching and filters are unique to each device.
Take a look at the first diagram at http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25 - the RFFE portion of that diagram differs between each device.
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Well I knew that it was likely going to be hardware limited, but staying hopeful that unlocking of additional bands is possible later when more developers get their hands on the TZ.
Being able to use 4G would be a big plus, although I am still perfectly happy with my HSPA+
Wait a minute aint LTE suppose to be backward compatible? I.E should do 3g and HSPA+ ?? I mean I dont have to buy 4G sim just to use with SGP321...
I think you should also clarify which GSM and HSPA+ bands each device supports
SO-03E supports:
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
this is from the service menu.
dhruvaz said:
Wait a minute aint LTE suppose to be backward compatible? I.E should do 3g and HSPA+ ?? I mean I dont have to buy 4G sim just to use with SGP321...
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The SIM is the same. The enduser can turn the capability on and off depending which contract he has.
So from this case it is backward compatible.
But seen from the technical side it is not backward compatible, a handover is done between 3G and 4G.
3G/HSPA+ is WCDMA also known as UMTS
LTE is a OFDM modulation
So the technology is completely different
UserX10 said:
The SIM is the same. The enduser can turn the capability on and off depending which contract he has.
So from this case it is backward compatible.
But seen from the technical side it is not backward compatible, a handover is done between 3G and 4G.
3G/HSPA+ is WCDMA also known as UMTS
LTE is a OFDM modulation
So the technology is completely different
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No what I meant was the simslot in the z should accept both 3g and 4g simcards. which you mentioned in the first line.
It's there a Wi-Fi only version? I wanna get one of these but I only need Wi-Fi.
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spitfire2425 said:
It's there a Wi-Fi only version? I wanna get one of these but I only need Wi-Fi.
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Yes, as said in the first post.
There are 16gb and 32gb wifi only.
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davo.arto said:
Yes, as said in the first post.
There are 16gb and 32gb wifi only.
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They may have understandably missed that because the first post confusingly says "WLAN only" instead of "Wi-Fi only". UserX10 should consider correcting that.
I can confirm that my SO-03E (32 GB) DoCoMo branded works in Australia using Telstra 3G but no 4G due to the band differences.
SO-03E (32 GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
DOH! no 4G!
SGP341 in China
UserX10 said:
So with a SGP351 FW on the SGP341 you can enable LTE band 4
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Sony appears to be selling the SGP341 in China: sonystyle.com.cn/products/sonytablet/xperia_tablet_z.htm?ssid=sonystore_sstp_subnav_m_tablet_sgp341cn
(apologies, I still cannot paste URLs; you will have to cut and paste)
Anyone know anyone in China willing to import these to the US?
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SGP351 Firmware
UserX10 said:
SGP341 and SGP351 are identical in hardware
So with a SGP351 FW on the SGP341 you can enable LTE band 4
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Sony has now submitted the SGP351 firmware for approval:
www (dot) ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=23435
(Again, cannot post links; you will need to cut and paste)
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shaun.s said:
I can confirm that my SO-03E (32 GB) DoCoMo branded works in Australia using Telstra 3G but no 4G due to the band differences.
SO-03E (32 GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
DOH! no 4G!
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I can confirm that it is possible to flash the SO-03E with an unbranded SGP321 firmware image BUT the LTE working bands remain the same as those that come enabled with the SO-03E: LTE_BC1, LTE_BC19, LTE_BC21. The flashing maintains a locked Boot Loader and hence the bravia 2 engine is retained. I also have an SGP321 which is now running the same firmware as the SO-03E (which is now an SGP321 with 16gig internal flash) but they both have different LTE working bands! The modem/radio software is identical on both tablets but the working bands are different as viewed via the system menu.
Does anyone know where the bands are configured/set as the Qualcomm modem chipset supports all LTE bands..... or is it flashed with the working bands on the chip when produced cannot be reprogrammed/enabled via the Android OS?
http://www.androidauthority.com/qua...-lte-advanced-and-hspa-look-out-nvidia-58021/
Ricky D said:
SGP341 is HSPA+ only (no LTE) 16GB.
Bands:
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
I'm looking for a white global LTE model (SGP321), but as far as I can see anywhere, only the 32GB wifi only comes in white (not interested in Docomo branded hardware.
If anyone has any links or reliable purchasing sources with worldwide shipping for this, please post.
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Expansys Korea (I cant post the link) has the 16Gb LTE white you want. They have sites for other countries too, but stock varies.
Wish I would of seen this a known the DoCoMo verison I have only supports one of the two LTE bands for my carrier. Signal is weak .... for now.
US 4g Xperia Tablet Z
A T-Mobile USA compatible Xperia Tablet Z (SGP351) is now available directly from the Sony website.

Bands by Model # per Motorola's Spec sheet

Bands (by model)
Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mobile SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 04, 17)
AT&T (XT1097):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 05, 07, 17)
Verizon (XT1096):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 07, 13)
Had been hoping the Pure Edition would cover all of AT&T's bands too. Oh well.
If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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mgymnop said:
If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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Looks like it does
I wonder how much difference it'll actually make when it comes to connectivity and speed?
I ordered the the pure edition based on reports that the model would play fine with att LTE. I will not return it f it does not get all of the Bands though. I am curious as to why Motorola didn't put all of the same radio bands into the pure edition.
I don't think att uses those other bands yet. Maybe they plan to in the future or something
AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.
So i'm from south america and my carrier uses lte cat 3. Which one should i get? The at&t or verizon should work. The thing is, how to get those models without contract..
sabbotage said:
AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.
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Thus, it explains the reason for just those bands!
Durp.
There's a lot of half-truths out there about the Pure Edition working on AT&T. It's true that it supports AT&T's major LTE bands, but it doesn't support them all. If you're OK with having access to most of AT&T's LTE network, then it's probably not an issue.
This is from a discussion that I started on G+ Moto X forum:
"Almost all the LTE in Vermont is band 5, and I frequently travel there for business and pleasure. The HSPA+ network is unusable in places like Burlington.
For the second year in a row, however, the unlocked Moto X doesn't allow its users from accessing all of AT&T's LTE network. I think this is a fact that a lot of news outlets and members of this community leave out because it doesn't affect them. The blanket statement by +Motorola Mobility and members of this community that "it is confirmed to work on AT&T" and the like is misleading and only true if the standard of "working" is that it can at least connect to some sort of network, just not necessarily the current generation network."
It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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LOL. I think it is just plain stupid from Motorola to have two GSM models for the US market. Do they really used different hardware to cover the different bands or are they just disabled? First would be completely stupid.
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Yes exactly and AT&T is using band 5 at the east coast (VT).
sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.
Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Band 12 is only in some places. It'll probably matter more in a year or so
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sabbotage said:
I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.
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AT&T uses 17 as the main LTE band in the US, 4 in major cities where overhead is high and 2 is just starting now for overhead refarming the PCS spectrum. Nowhere do they use 5 at all. The phone will work fine with AT&T.
It's the same mess from the 2013 MotoX
XT 1053 = XT 1095
XT 1058 = XT 1097
I can't believe they still release a UNBRANDED PURE version with less LTE band support than the AT&T one.
XT 1097 will be used in canada also, europe, parts of asia and is the one selling in brazil since the beggining of september.
So if you want a true LTE global phone, you are stuck with ATT.
Copied from link below:
Bring your own device to AT&T
You can bring your own phone or tablet to AT&T with no annual service contract, if your device is unlocked - not programmed to work exclusively on another wireless network, and will work on one of these GSM network frequencies:
•3G UMTS network in the 850 / 1900MHz bands
•4G LTE network AWS / 700 / 850 / 1900MHz bands
Check your device manufacturer's website to see which frequency bands your device supports, and for information about unlocking your device.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB113269
Band 5 is 850?
will the att version work on european lte?

[Q] Which version of Samsung Note 4 phone is a better buy?

Hello,
I'm trying to make sense of the LTE frequencies, so maybe you can help.
The situation: I'd like to buy the phone and use it on AT&T LTE in the US, but -- very important -- also use it for data when traveling outside the US. Also, I'd like the ability switch providers in the US (that's why I'm not buying a subsidized phone from AT&T).
The question: The Note 4 model SM-N910W8 has more LTE frequencies than the model SM-N910A. I assume it means that the SM-N910W8 is more likely to perform well in foreign countries and on other US carriers. If so, that's a better purchase than AT&T model of the phone (SM-N910A). Is this correct?
The data:
According to GSM Arena, the "North American" model SM-N910W8 supports
LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17)
According to Samsung website, the specialized AT&T version of the phone SM-N910A supports
2G GSM : 850/900/1800/1900;
3G WCDMA : Band I/Band II/Band V;
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
(the system won't allow me to provide links to the data sources, but PM me if you'd like them)
I was also confused about all the band stuff. I am on AT&T myself and I just purchased a note 4 sm-n910c. it is the exynos version (some people don't want that) but it supposedly works great with AT&T lte. The phone arrives on Wednesday soo I personally don't know. But I did alot of research before purchasing.
My current att branded note edge (i assume same as note 4) supports
4G FDD LTE: B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B17(700), B20(800);
And the 910c supports:
LTE 800 / 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600
(Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
You may also want to look into the sm-n910u
Thanks! So according to the source below, a "band" is simply a range of radio frequencies. That's why there's an overlap between "radio frequencies" and "LTE bands".
radio-electronics.com/info/cellulartelecomms/lte-long-term-evolution/lte-frequency-spectrum.php
My impression is that the more frequencies a device has, the better it performs across carriers, when roaming. And of course, any carrier is better off selling a device that's customized to its own network, thereby making switching carriers more difficult. I guess that this is why the AT&T model has fewer frequencies than the non-AT&T model.
By the way, the seller of the SM-N910W8 assured me that the device is capable of the same LTE speeds at a SM-N910A.
Right every carrier uses specific bands of frequency. Some work on multiple carries. For instance the t-mobile note 4 work on ATT network.
I don't know much about the 910w8 but yes the more bands it supports the more universal it will be across carriers. Of course GSM phones will not work on CDMA networks like version and sprint
Craleb said:
Right every carrier uses specific bands of frequency. Some work on multiple carries.
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That's right. And my hunch is that carriers limit their branded phones (the subsidized phones they sell). This way, the phone will perform best only on their network. At least in the case of AT&T, I can't find another explantion why their branded phone (SM-N910A) supports fewer bands than a non-AT&T branded phone (like the SM-N910W8).
Does iPhone have these restrictions... Just curious
magichoward said:
Does iPhone have these restrictions... Just curious
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Yes, the iPhone is also frequency restricted. Manufacturers do it to help carriers (which are their big customers, not us retail customers). Carriers use the frequency restrictions to curb cross-border sales and limit your ability to switch to a competitor, even if you paid for your device.
Iphone 6 A1522 (GSM)
LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)
Iphone 6 A1524 (CDMA):
FDD-LTE (band 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29)
TD-LTE (band 38, 39, 40, 41)
(I found the data in "Galaxy Note4 Firmware - All Models")
The version that ends in W8 is the Latin American version. The T-Mobile version is compatible with most bands.
Att has locked boot loader, as well as vzw. If your into rooting and flashing custom Roms, stay away from those phone's.
jaxenroth said:
Att has locked boot loader, as well as vzw
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Thanks! I didn't know that. So now the AT&T version (SM-N910A) is definitely off the table. It's down to two models. Both will support all of AT&T LTE bands, but one adds full support for European LTE and the other adds full support for T-Mobile US.
SM-N910C, which has Exynos CPU and supports 800 Mhz and 4G band 20, which one of the three bands common in Europe.
SM-N910W8, which has Snapdragon CPU and supports 4G band 12, which means full support for T-Mobile 4G.
arjun90 said:
The version that ends in W8 is the Latin American version. The T-Mobile version is compatible with most bands.
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Yes, the T-Mobile version (which I see is the one you one) has the same bands as the 910W8 and the same CPU. The advantage (for me) is that I can buy it from T-Mobile and receive warranty.
The T-Mobile version is the appropriate one for you, especially since you will receive warranty from Samsung USA.
NYCgirl said:
Yes, the T-Mobile version (which I see is the one you one) has the same bands as the 910W8 and the same CPU. The advantage (for me) is that I can buy it from T-Mobile and receive warranty.
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Lack Of Band 20 In The UK ?!

Apparently the ZUK does not have full spectrum coverage - is that a major issue for people living in the UK?
I think only O2 uses the Band 20 range exclusively for 4G - but even if you miss out on that, would it still work on 3G?
Basically, is the ZUK a good choice or a bad choice for folks in England?
(If it is a bad buy, then what other Dual Sim phone is better and in the same price range?)
Same in germany, depending on the provider and region.... Band 20 is often used in villages etc.
You can check with http://www.willmyphonework.net/
Of course 3G still works.
Personally i don´t miss LTE tho. As long as we have no real flatrates here for stuff like LTE i see no point in having more bandwith...
It doesn't affect me as I am too tight to pay for LTE anyway and 3G is just about good enough for my needs. If LTE became cheaper than £10 per month I might be bothered - though I'm on EE which is not band 20 anyway.
I am puzzled though why Lenovo didn't just enable band 20 anyway. I could understand if they just planned to sell the phone in China and India but they have officially launched it in Europe as well. Maybe they don't want it to sell too well in Europe because if it did maybe Apple and Samsung would start throwing patent suits at them.
Because the band isn´t on the SoC they use imho.
Oneplus One, Xiaomi Mi4 etc they all lack band 20.
TDD-LTE (band 38, 39, 40, 41)
FDD-LTE (band 1, 3, 7)
TD-SCDMA (band 34, 39 )
WCDMA ( 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA2000 ( 800 MHz)
GSM/EDGE( 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA( 800MHz)
I use it in Edinburgh with Three. No problems.
Working fine on Vodafone (London).
I can't use 4g in Southport. Not happy as I was told I would be able to. Having said that My Nexus 5 hardly ever got 4g off 3 here and it was slower than h+.
othe01 said:
Because the band isn´t on the SoC they use imho.
Oneplus One, Xiaomi Mi4 etc they all lack band 20.
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Atleast read up The chip has band 20.
I'm on GiffGaff and can't get 4g. I live in an area near Liverpool where 4g coverage on giff gaff is poor anyway so not too bothered.
Any solution to activate band 20 in the Z1?
lte band 8 in zuk z1??
jiojio said:
lte band 8 in zuk z1??
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You can Google it: https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/OyDRA/zuk-z1-td-lte-dual-sim

Travel to Germany with XT1575 (US)

T-Mobile's site states "To work in this country you need a device that has frequencies of 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, Band I (2100)." When I look up the specs on the Motorola site it states: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz); CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz); 4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 41).
It appears to me that I should have no problems using my (XT1575 - US) phone in Germany when I travel there...? Anyone have any actual experience taking the US version over there?
Thanks in advance!
ech1253 said:
T-Mobile's site states "To work in this country you need a device that has frequencies of 900 MHz, 1800 MHz, Band I (2100)." When I look up the specs on the Motorola site it states: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz); UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz); CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz); 4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 41).
It appears to me that I should have no problems using my (XT1575 - US) phone in Germany when I travel there...? Anyone have any actual experience taking the US version over there?
Thanks in advance!
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Not Germany but Using US version in UK happily, LTE and 3G. Going to Germany in 4weeks, if your there sooner please update this post, I will do the same
You can always check this site and see on which network your phone will work:
http://www.willmyphonework.net/
gmlogan said:
Not Germany but Using US version in UK happily, LTE and 3G. Going to Germany in 4weeks, if your there sooner please update this post, I will do the same
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Thank you. Not going until late July but I will post my experience roaming as a T-Mobile customer when I get back... And thanks to other poster for the site!
ech1253 said:
Thank you. Not going until late July but I will post my experience roaming as a T-Mobile customer when I get back... And thanks to other poster for the site!
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Hopefully T-Mobile works well in their home country of Germany. It's not so good in Japan, where NTT Docomo and Softbank take turns kicking you off their network like an unwanted guest.

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