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Hi,
I just wanted to create a place where all the Variants are listed for a better overview:
WLAN (Wi-Fi) only
SGP311 (16GB)
SGP312 (32GB)
GSM/HSPA+/LTE
SGP321 (16GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 8
LTE: 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20
SGP331 ?
SGP341 (16GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 2, 4, 5
SGP351 (16GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 2, 4, 5
LTE: 4
SO-03E (32 GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
Additional information:
SGP341 and SGP351 are identical in hardware!!
So with a SGP351 FW on the SGP341 you can enable LTE band 4
SO-03E can be debranded with SGP321 Firmware - but the 32GB Memory will be formated as 16GB
Greetings
UserX10
If there is a mistake or you have additional information - please let me know.
Thanks to all users below for providing additional information.
SGP341 is HSPA+ only (no LTE) 16GB.
Bands:
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
I'm looking for a white global LTE model (SGP321), but as far as I can see anywhere, only the 32GB wifi only comes in white (not interested in Docomo branded hardware.
If anyone has any links or reliable purchasing sources with worldwide shipping for this, please post.
Sony Tablet Z
The "SGP351" model number is for an HSPA/LTE variant that appears to be for T-Mobile USA. I am too new to post links but you can find a link to the FCC filing for the device, as well as SGP341, via TmoNews or Wireless Goodness.
Yes, I am keeping a close eye on this one.
Does any of the variants comes with a charger in the box ?
Mine was Docomo version - comes with Headphones & Charging Dock !!
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The SO-03E (docomo version) only supports LTE bands 1/19/21
Currently with stock firmware at least anyway, maybe when developers get their hands on a modem files from the SGP321 the other bands might get unlocked, unless its a hardware restriction
electric0ant said:
The SO-03E (docomo version) only supports LTE bands 1/19/21
Currently with stock firmware at least anyway, maybe when developers get their hands on a modem files from the SGP321 the other bands might get unlocked, unless its a hardware restriction
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Band support is hardware-limited. The only thing you can hope for in some cases is unlocking additional modes in already-supported bands (like Nexus 4 LTE support for 1700 MHz.)
Qualcomm's WTR RF frontends support nearly all bands in existence *but not simultaneously in a single device* - bandswitching and filters are unique to each device.
Take a look at the first diagram at http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25 - the RFFE portion of that diagram differs between each device.
Entropy512 said:
Band support is hardware-limited. The only thing you can hope for in some cases is unlocking additional modes in already-supported bands (like Nexus 4 LTE support for 1700 MHz.)
Qualcomm's WTR RF frontends support nearly all bands in existence *but not simultaneously in a single device* - bandswitching and filters are unique to each device.
Take a look at the first diagram at http://www.anandtech.com/show/6541/the-state-of-qualcomms-modems-wtr1605-and-mdm9x25 - the RFFE portion of that diagram differs between each device.
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Well I knew that it was likely going to be hardware limited, but staying hopeful that unlocking of additional bands is possible later when more developers get their hands on the TZ.
Being able to use 4G would be a big plus, although I am still perfectly happy with my HSPA+
Wait a minute aint LTE suppose to be backward compatible? I.E should do 3g and HSPA+ ?? I mean I dont have to buy 4G sim just to use with SGP321...
I think you should also clarify which GSM and HSPA+ bands each device supports
SO-03E supports:
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
this is from the service menu.
dhruvaz said:
Wait a minute aint LTE suppose to be backward compatible? I.E should do 3g and HSPA+ ?? I mean I dont have to buy 4G sim just to use with SGP321...
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The SIM is the same. The enduser can turn the capability on and off depending which contract he has.
So from this case it is backward compatible.
But seen from the technical side it is not backward compatible, a handover is done between 3G and 4G.
3G/HSPA+ is WCDMA also known as UMTS
LTE is a OFDM modulation
So the technology is completely different
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The SIM is the same. The enduser can turn the capability on and off depending which contract he has.
So from this case it is backward compatible.
But seen from the technical side it is not backward compatible, a handover is done between 3G and 4G.
3G/HSPA+ is WCDMA also known as UMTS
LTE is a OFDM modulation
So the technology is completely different
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No what I meant was the simslot in the z should accept both 3g and 4g simcards. which you mentioned in the first line.
It's there a Wi-Fi only version? I wanna get one of these but I only need Wi-Fi.
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spitfire2425 said:
It's there a Wi-Fi only version? I wanna get one of these but I only need Wi-Fi.
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Yes, as said in the first post.
There are 16gb and 32gb wifi only.
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davo.arto said:
Yes, as said in the first post.
There are 16gb and 32gb wifi only.
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They may have understandably missed that because the first post confusingly says "WLAN only" instead of "Wi-Fi only". UserX10 should consider correcting that.
I can confirm that my SO-03E (32 GB) DoCoMo branded works in Australia using Telstra 3G but no 4G due to the band differences.
SO-03E (32 GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
DOH! no 4G!
SGP341 in China
UserX10 said:
So with a SGP351 FW on the SGP341 you can enable LTE band 4
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Sony appears to be selling the SGP341 in China: sonystyle.com.cn/products/sonytablet/xperia_tablet_z.htm?ssid=sonystore_sstp_subnav_m_tablet_sgp341cn
(apologies, I still cannot paste URLs; you will have to cut and paste)
Anyone know anyone in China willing to import these to the US?
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SGP351 Firmware
UserX10 said:
SGP341 and SGP351 are identical in hardware
So with a SGP351 FW on the SGP341 you can enable LTE band 4
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Sony has now submitted the SGP351 firmware for approval:
www (dot) ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=23435
(Again, cannot post links; you will need to cut and paste)
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shaun.s said:
I can confirm that my SO-03E (32 GB) DoCoMo branded works in Australia using Telstra 3G but no 4G due to the band differences.
SO-03E (32 GB)
GSM: 850, 900. 1800, 1900
UMTS: 1, 5, 6, 19
LTE: 1, 19 ,21
DOH! no 4G!
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I can confirm that it is possible to flash the SO-03E with an unbranded SGP321 firmware image BUT the LTE working bands remain the same as those that come enabled with the SO-03E: LTE_BC1, LTE_BC19, LTE_BC21. The flashing maintains a locked Boot Loader and hence the bravia 2 engine is retained. I also have an SGP321 which is now running the same firmware as the SO-03E (which is now an SGP321 with 16gig internal flash) but they both have different LTE working bands! The modem/radio software is identical on both tablets but the working bands are different as viewed via the system menu.
Does anyone know where the bands are configured/set as the Qualcomm modem chipset supports all LTE bands..... or is it flashed with the working bands on the chip when produced cannot be reprogrammed/enabled via the Android OS?
http://www.androidauthority.com/qua...-lte-advanced-and-hspa-look-out-nvidia-58021/
Ricky D said:
SGP341 is HSPA+ only (no LTE) 16GB.
Bands:
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV), 1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
GSM GPRS/EDGE 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
I'm looking for a white global LTE model (SGP321), but as far as I can see anywhere, only the 32GB wifi only comes in white (not interested in Docomo branded hardware.
If anyone has any links or reliable purchasing sources with worldwide shipping for this, please post.
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Expansys Korea (I cant post the link) has the 16Gb LTE white you want. They have sites for other countries too, but stock varies.
Wish I would of seen this a known the DoCoMo verison I have only supports one of the two LTE bands for my carrier. Signal is weak .... for now.
US 4g Xperia Tablet Z
A T-Mobile USA compatible Xperia Tablet Z (SGP351) is now available directly from the Sony website.
Hey everyone!
I've been looking on the OnePlus forums lately, and lots of people have questions about carrier compatibility with the One. Personally, carrier compatibility is the biggest factor when it comes to buying an unlocked phone, so I decided to make this thread to help guide people with compatibility with their carriers. According to OnePlus's website, the bands that are supported are as follows:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
Now, I am going to start with USA compatibility. If anyone else would like me to add compatibility with their carrier, please reply to the thread, and I'll see what I can do. Hopefully, this will benefit all members of the community.
USA
AT&T
2G/EDGE/GPRS : Supported on both 850 and 1900 MHz bands
3G/UMTS/HSPA : Supported on both bands 2 and 5.
LTE : Only supported on bands 4 and 17. Bands 2 and 30 are not supported; however, they are usually only deployed to create extra bandwidth in high capacity areas. Band 17 is AT&T's major LTE band.
MVNOs of AT&T : Straight Talk, Net10, AIO
T-Mobile
2G/EDGE/GPRS : Supported on both 850 and 1900 MHz bands
3G/UMTS/HSPA : Supported on both bands 2 and 4 ("4G" HSPA+)
LTE: Supported on currently deployed Band 4. However, T-Mobile plans to deploy Bands 2 and 12 to extend coverage. So, if you have LTE signal now, you're okay. If you don't, then you most likely never will with the One.
MVNOs of T-Mobile : MetroPCS, Ultra Mobile, Lycamobile, Straight Talk, Net10
Sprint
INCOMPATIBLE
Verizon
INCOMPATIBLE
TELUS Details
TELUS is one of the 9 cellular networks in Canada. TELUS is owned and operated by Koodo Mobility and Telus Mobility
TELUS has an average 3G download speed of 4.3 Mb/s, which is better than the global average of 1.8 Mb/s.
TELUS is a 4G network. 4G is the latest generation of cellular technology, allowing high definition video streaming and crystal clear voice calls. We first recorded TELUS 4G on the 11th of Nov 2011. TELUS has an average 4G download speed of 15 Mb/s, which is than the global average of 8.1 Mb/s.
TELUS uses the UMTS 850 / UMTS 1900 frequency bands for its network
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How to figure out whether AT&T or T-Mobile would be best for Straighttalk?
UNITED KINGDOM
It'll work fine on:
EE (Bands 3 & 7 supported by OPO)
Partially:
Three (Band 3 supported, Band 20 isn't by OPO. Band 20 people say will be used for rural areas)
No LTE:
O2 and Vodafone (Both use Band 20 which isn't support by OPO)
3G will obviously be fine however.
Sources:
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/c...clear-up.8034/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...etworks#Europe
dracinn said:
How to figure out whether AT&T or T-Mobile would be best for Straighttalk?
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You check the coverage map in your area for each of those providers. The one with better service in your area is the one to go for.
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FuMMoD said:
You check the coverage map in your area for each of those providers. The one with better service in your area is the one to go for.
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Thanks AT&T (Straighttalk) for me.
dracinn said:
Thanks AT&T (Straighttalk) for me.
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That's the cool thing about ST you get the choice of 2 different providers. Glad you were able to figure out the better of the two for your uses. Don't forget to check in areas where you frequently travel to as well.
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http://forums.oneplus.net/threads/carrier-confusion-clear-up.8034/
More carriers and more countries that it's compatible with
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treChoy said:
T-Mobile
LTE: Supported on currently deployed Band 4. However, T-Mobile plans to deploy Bands 2 and 12 to extend coverage. So, if you have LTE signal now, you're okay. If you don't, then you most likely never will with the One.
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I have the Samsung Galaxy Light SGH-T399. It works on T-M's current LTE 1700/2100MHz (band 4), but also 700MHz (band 17), which T-M just purchased from Verizon. A few other newer T-M phones are also made to work on this 700Mhz band. It seems that they were planning ahead.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...TE-network-with-spectrum-from-Verizon_id51000
http://www.phonearena.com/news/As-s...can-look-forward-to-faster-4G-service_id55705
The OnePlus One also works on this 700HMz (band 17) frequency.
Good news for those lucky enough to have LTE with T-Mobile. The 700 band penetrates buildings better, so you'll have a better signal inside Wal*Mart or if you live deep inside a large apartment complex.
Planterz said:
I have the Samsung Galaxy Light SGH-T399. It works on T-M's current LTE 1700/2100MHz (band 4), but also 700MHz (band 17), which T-M just purchased from Verizon. A few other newer T-M phones are also made to work on this 700Mhz band. It seems that they were planning ahead.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mo...TE-network-with-spectrum-from-Verizon_id51000
http://www.phonearena.com/news/As-s...can-look-forward-to-faster-4G-service_id55705
The OnePlus One also works on this 700HMz (band 17) frequency.
Good news for those lucky enough to have LTE with T-Mobile. The 700 band penetrates buildings better, so you'll have a better signal inside Wal*Mart or if you live deep inside a large apartment complex.
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Very true. T-Mo will probably use this band to expand coverage, Good catch :good:
However, it should be worth noting that T-Mo plans to cannibalize (AKA "refarm") its EDGE network into LTE. This may sound great; however, this EDGE that they will be converting will be broadcasted on the 1900 MHz spectrum (Band 2 LTE). The OPO will not support Band 2, so OPO users on T-Mo will not be able to take advantage of LTE in many rural areas and markets.
Will the phone work in India? Vodafone is my carrier.
Portugal
2G - Full compatibility with Optimus, TMN and Vodafone
3G - Full compatibility with Optimus, TMN and Vodafone
LTE - Compatibility on 1800MHz and 2600MHz frequencies which should cover big population agglomerates on Optimus, TMN and Vodafone. 800MHz left out, so outside cities (and probably inside buildings and small cities) it will most likely revert to 3G.
treChoy said:
AT&T
LTE : Only supported on bands 4 and 17. Bands 2 and 30 are not supported; however, they are usually only deployed to create extra bandwidth in high capacity areas. Band 17 is AT&T's major LTE band.
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Curious, was this written by OnePlus's P.R. team? Because it really downplays what I consider one of the biggest problems with this phone, namely that it is missing half the LTE bands used by AT&T, the biggest OPO-compatible carrier in the U.S.
The argument, "Oh but they're barely deployed", is pretty weak. The fact is the bands ARE deployed, and they're only going to get deployed more because carriers aren't exactly in the business of wasting their valuable licensed spectrum. In high traffic areas where they're in use I assume it would be pretty desirable to have them because the other two bands might be over capacity, or maybe they aren't even operating on the tower you're hitting.
Everyone seems to be brushing this off. I guess it's OK to settle after all?
Italy
2G: full compatibility with TIM;
3G: full compatibility with TIM;
4G: compatibility with TIM only 1800 and 2600 MHz, band 3 and 7.
Jubi Lee said:
Curious, was this written by OnePlus's P.R. team? Because it really downplays what I consider one of the biggest problems with this phone, namely that it is missing half the LTE bands used by AT&T, the biggest OPO-compatible carrier in the U.S.
The argument, "Oh but they're barely deployed", is pretty weak. The fact is the bands ARE deployed, and they're only going to get deployed more because carriers aren't exactly in the business of wasting their valuable licensed spectrum. In high traffic areas where they're in use I assume it would be pretty desirable to have them because the other two bands might be over capacity, or maybe they aren't even operating on the tower you're hitting.
Everyone seems to be brushing this off. I guess it's OK to settle after all?
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I agree, the lack of proper LTE bands really are a turn-off for this phone. Just look at our friends in Europe, whose widely-deployed LTE Band 20 is not supported. I'm not saying that the LTE bands here on AT&T are optimal, but it's worth pointing out that it could be worse. The fact that the One supports Band 17 should be satisfactory for many users; it's AT&T's low-frequency band, so theoretically, it should cover the most people. The higher frequencies would only make sense being deployed in areas with mass congestion. So in cities, it's fair to assume that you'll get lower-than-average LTE speeds.
Now, it could be worse. Take a look at T-Mo users (like myself). We're pretty much getting screwed over. Band 4 LTE, the band that they're using now, is very high frequency. Building penetration sucks. Coverage and range sucks. Their network currently is weak. The new bands they are deploying will be lower frequency, so they should provide more coverage and reliability. However, of course, the OPO doesn't support them, which is a major blow to T-Mobile USA customers.
But hey, for $300 for an amazingly-spec'd phone, we have to expect that some compromises had to be made.
anuj247 said:
Will the phone work in India? Vodafone is my carrier.
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India
Vodafone
2G/EDGE/GPRS : most likely supported
3G/UMTS : Yes, Band 1 UMTS is utilized by Vodafone India, and it's supported by the One.
4G LTE : not supported by Vodafone
Anyone knows if it will work in Croatia?
chil3r said:
Anyone knows if it will work in Croatia?
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Any specific carrier?
What about The Netherlands?
Carriers:
Tele2
T-Mobile
KPN
Vodafone
Finland:
All operators (Elisa, Sonera, DNA).
2G 900,1800MHz are both supported
3G 900, 2100MHz are both supported
4G/LTE Channels 3(1800MHz) and 7(2600MHz) are supported. Channel 20(800MHz) is not supported
Lack of support for channel 20 will limit LTE only to densely populated areas.
Bands (by model)
Moto X - Pure Edition (GSM Unlocked with T-Mobile SIM - XT1095):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 04, 17)
AT&T (XT1097):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS), 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 05, 07, 17)
Verizon (XT1096):
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE (02, 03, 04, 07, 13)
Had been hoping the Pure Edition would cover all of AT&T's bands too. Oh well.
If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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mgymnop said:
If this is true I will return my Moto X. This is bs that the pure edition doesn't support all AT&T bands. Why can't the pure edition not support all gsm bands. Omg I am so angry.
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Looks like it does
I wonder how much difference it'll actually make when it comes to connectivity and speed?
I ordered the the pure edition based on reports that the model would play fine with att LTE. I will not return it f it does not get all of the Bands though. I am curious as to why Motorola didn't put all of the same radio bands into the pure edition.
I don't think att uses those other bands yet. Maybe they plan to in the future or something
AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.
So i'm from south america and my carrier uses lte cat 3. Which one should i get? The at&t or verizon should work. The thing is, how to get those models without contract..
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AT&T only uses bands 2, 4, and 17 in the US currently anyway so the pure edition will be fine.
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Thus, it explains the reason for just those bands!
Durp.
There's a lot of half-truths out there about the Pure Edition working on AT&T. It's true that it supports AT&T's major LTE bands, but it doesn't support them all. If you're OK with having access to most of AT&T's LTE network, then it's probably not an issue.
This is from a discussion that I started on G+ Moto X forum:
"Almost all the LTE in Vermont is band 5, and I frequently travel there for business and pleasure. The HSPA+ network is unusable in places like Burlington.
For the second year in a row, however, the unlocked Moto X doesn't allow its users from accessing all of AT&T's LTE network. I think this is a fact that a lot of news outlets and members of this community leave out because it doesn't affect them. The blanket statement by +Motorola Mobility and members of this community that "it is confirmed to work on AT&T" and the like is misleading and only true if the standard of "working" is that it can at least connect to some sort of network, just not necessarily the current generation network."
It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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It seems like the Pure Edition is mainly geared toward T-Mobile. It is missing band 12, but not every where has that. Tmo operates on band 4. T-Mobile is "pure" so it makes sense lol jk
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LOL. I think it is just plain stupid from Motorola to have two GSM models for the US market. Do they really used different hardware to cover the different bands or are they just disabled? First would be completely stupid.
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
Note10.1Dude said:
But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Yes exactly and AT&T is using band 5 at the east coast (VT).
sogrady said:
I'd much rather that the Pure Edition have all the bands of the AT&T flavor, but as stated by @sabbotage, it would appear AT&T only uses 2, 4 and 17 in the US anyway:
List of LTE Networks
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I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.
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But T-mobile is bringing Band 12 online, and that is not supported. It does really look like there is an F-up here someplace. Hopefully only in the information released.
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Band 12 is only in some places. It'll probably matter more in a year or so
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I wonder if that info is even all correct. That's always what I went by, but it shows band 5 being strictly US Cellular and a few posts back the one person said Vermont is almost all AT&T band 5. So if that is correct then AT&T must be starting to just roll out band 5.
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AT&T uses 17 as the main LTE band in the US, 4 in major cities where overhead is high and 2 is just starting now for overhead refarming the PCS spectrum. Nowhere do they use 5 at all. The phone will work fine with AT&T.
It's the same mess from the 2013 MotoX
XT 1053 = XT 1095
XT 1058 = XT 1097
I can't believe they still release a UNBRANDED PURE version with less LTE band support than the AT&T one.
XT 1097 will be used in canada also, europe, parts of asia and is the one selling in brazil since the beggining of september.
So if you want a true LTE global phone, you are stuck with ATT.
Copied from link below:
Bring your own device to AT&T
You can bring your own phone or tablet to AT&T with no annual service contract, if your device is unlocked - not programmed to work exclusively on another wireless network, and will work on one of these GSM network frequencies:
•3G UMTS network in the 850 / 1900MHz bands
•4G LTE network AWS / 700 / 850 / 1900MHz bands
Check your device manufacturer's website to see which frequency bands your device supports, and for information about unlocking your device.
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.jsp?sid=KB113269
Band 5 is 850?
will the att version work on european lte?
I'm writing this int he hopes that someones know or has experience using an AT&T Note 4 on the Deutsche Telekom. I've tried looking at the frequencies the Telekom Note 4 uses against what the AT&T version uses, but so far it hasn't really helped.
So far I know that that Edge frequencies are the same across to the two phones (850, 900, 1800, 1900), for the 3g spectrum (UMTS) we have:
Telekom Note 4 with 850, 900, 1900, 2100
AT&T Note 4 with 850, 1900, 2100
and for LTE it's
Telekom Note 4 with 700,800,850,900,1800,2100,2600
AT&T Note 4 with 700, 850, 900, 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 17)
So there certainly is some overlap. But I'm looking for someone who has a better understanding of these frequency and compatibility. One bands are the most widely used and available in Germany, etc.
Thanks for any and all help! If it turns out this phoen wont work, there is a great deal going on for the Motorola Moto X pure edition where you get a free Moto E 3g.
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2disbetter said:
I'm writing this int he hopes that someones know or has experience using an AT&T Note 4 on the Deutsche Telekom. I've tried looking at the frequencies the Telekom Note 4 uses against what the AT&T version uses, but so far it hasn't really helped.
So far I know that that Edge frequencies are the same across to the two phones (850, 900, 1800, 1900), for the 3g spectrum (UMTS) we have:
Telekom Note 4 with 850, 900, 1900, 2100
AT&T Note 4 with 850, 1900, 2100
and for LTE it's
Telekom Note 4 with 700,800,850,900,1800,2100,2600
AT&T Note 4 with 700, 850, 900, 2100 (Bands 2, 4, 5, 12, 17)
So there certainly is some overlap. But I'm looking for someone who has a better understanding of these frequency and compatibility. One bands are the most widely used and available in Germany, etc.
Thanks for any and all help! If it turns out this phoen wont work, there is a great deal going on for the Motorola Moto X pure edition where you get a free Moto E 3g.
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T-Mobile Germany uses band 3,4, and 7 for its service. They operate hspa and hspa+ services on band 4 and LTE on band 3 and 7. They also support carrier aggregation between bands 3 and 7. SM-N910A from AT&T won't be sufficient on T-Mobile Germany. In order to get the best service, you will need to purchase the European SM-N910F model.
LTE-X said:
T-Mobile Germany uses band 3,4, and 7 for its service. They operate hspa and hspa+ services on band 4 and LTE on band 3 and 7. They also support carrier aggregation between bands 3 and 7. SM-N910A from AT&T won't be sufficient on T-Mobile Germany. In order to get the best service, you will need to purchase the European SM-N910F model.
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I don't really mind not being able to get LTE at all times. I expect LTE coverage to be the most complete in larger cities, but the klein dorfs ,etc. not so much.
As long as I get reliable 3g and hspa+ for the most part I'd be content. Having just dropped over $800 I'm not real keen on buying another Note 4.
Are you aware what bands across the different protocols are most prevalent in Germany? I'll be living around the Koblenz area.
Thank you for your post.
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2disbetter said:
I don't really mind not being able to get LTE at all times. I expect LTE coverage to be the most complete in larger cities, but the klein dorfs ,etc. not so much.
As long as I get reliable 3g and hspa+ for the most part I'd be content. Having just dropped over $800 I'm not real keen on buying another Note 4.
Are you aware what bands across the different protocols are most prevalent in Germany? I'll be living around the Koblenz area.
Thank you for your post.
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You will definitely receive 3G service. LTE service will work in some areas, but not all areas. Also, AT&T phones come with a strict modem firmware, therefore your phone might not work with simultaneous data and voice while using it on their network.
They almost went far enough back in 2013 to put a small soldering into the phone's motherboard that recognizes which carrier you are using the phone on (SIM card was not enough for them). If it's not AT&T, the modem will strictly connect to 2G network. This proposal was rejected by all manufacturers. I know this is a whole another story, but I am just letting you know.
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You will definitely receive 3G service. LTE service will work in some areas, but not all areas. Also, AT&T phones come with a strict modem firmware, therefore your phone might not work with simultaneous data and voice while using it on their network.
They almost went far enough back in 2013 to put a small soldering into the phone's motherboard that recognizes which carrier you are using the phone on (SIM card was not enough for them). If it's not AT&T, the modem will strictly connect to 2G network. This proposal was rejected by all manufacturers. I know this is a whole another story, but I am just letting you know.
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Woher wissen Sie das? Sind Sie eine Deustche?
Thank you once again for your response. Voice really doesn't matter. I will barely use it. It sounds from your description though that I will do OK with the AT&T version. BTW the time I'm bothered by not having consistent LTE there will be a new phone I'll want that I'll ensure has international radios.
Hopefully they are still offering unlimited data and a few minutes for 50 Euro.
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2disbetter said:
Woher wissen Sie das? Sind Sie eine Deustche?
Thank you once again for your response. Voice really doesn't matter. I will barely use it. It sounds from your description though that I will do OK with the AT&T version. BTW the time I'm bothered by not having consistent LTE there will be a new phone I'll want that I'll ensure has international radios.
Hopefully they are still offering unlimited data and a few minutes for 50 Euro.
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I am not German, so I don't know what questions you asked me. I did visit Germany a few times on my business trips. When I was there, I did not have unlimited data, I had the basic 5GB plan with 300 minutes and unlimited texts on T-Mobile Germany. Good Luck to you!
Just so there is a final answer on this. I can report that the phone works fine on Telekom! I am getting 4g lte basically everywhere, except in some remote spots on the autobahn and in smaller towns /villages.
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Hey everyone, thanks for taking the time to try and help me out! I am possibly going to spend about 4 months in Hong Kong, starting with this upcoming January. I am really having trouble figuring out if this phone can be used there. It seems like it has the bands for most of the 3G networks there, but can anyone possibly help me confirm this? I would also love LTE, but I don't think this phone has the proper LTE bands for Hong Kong. I tried contacting T-Mobile (I currently have Verizon but may get T-Mobile there), and they told me to contact a Hong Kong carrier. I found the number 2 carrier there, and sent them emails and Facebook messages, and have not heard back. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Basically, I just want to know if the MXPE supports 3G and/or LTE bands in Hong Kong. If it does, I won't have to buy a phone to use while I am there. Thanks!
P.S. The Hong Kong carrier I am looking at is Hong Kong China Mobile.
Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.
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Well here are the bands that the US MXPE supports:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700 (AWS),1900, 2100 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
4G LTE† (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 38, 41)
According to the LTE wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Asia
HKCM uses LTE bands 3, 7, and 40
Looks like bands 3 and 7 are pretty prevalent in HK, so chances are that you'll get LTE (but obviously not 100% guaranteed).
3G wise it looks like they use: UMTS 850, UMTS 900, UMTS 2100 - so you should at least get 3G.
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Awesome! It seemed like I was gonna get 3G but I was having trouble making sure that I would get LTE. Mainly because I looked at a Xiaomi Hong Kong phone and it mentioned FDD and I think TDP LTE and I was really confused!
My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.
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My wife's Nexus 6 got LTE on the local PCCW carrier (now called csl) in Hong Kong earlier this year. So if the Moto X has the same bands for LTE you should be good to go.
As a side note my Nexus 5 did not get LTE but I was still very impressed with the 3G speeds. Wish the US has speeds like that for 3G.
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Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.
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Really appreciate the feedback. I will most likely do either csl or China Mobile Hong Kong, depending on pricing and reception.
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Smartone might be worth taking a look at also.
FYI not all prepaid plans have 4G or LTE. csl just started offering it on prepaid within the last year. I don't know what other carriers have LTE on prepaid so you will need to do some research.
I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.
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I am a local HKer, using CSL and my Moto X Style from the UK can access all the LTE band in HK. We mostly on 1800/2600 Mhz that is Band 3/7. I remember the Pure from the US do support the HK bands. I almost bought the US version to use in HK, but given up because Moto Maker doesn't allow me to proceed without a US credit card.
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I use UK version of the MOTO X STYLE in Hong Kong too:good: