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Touch Screen Doesnt Always Respond

Hi
Anyone else having problems with the touchscreen taking maybe 5 presses for you to be able to select for example a menu option? This is really starting to bug me now. So much so I'm thinking of sending it back to t-mobile and cancelling the contract.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers
Andy

Try an Calibration in the settings menu.

There isn't a screen calibration setting on this handset. I wasn't aware we had to do this on these capacitive screens.

My X10 doesn't work like that at all. How hard do you press? Does it work in one press if you press harder?

Press harder on as capacitive display?
You'll have to place your second hand on the metal frame and it'll work perfect.
Dry hands are also not good.

boo6 said:
Press harder on as capacitive display?
You'll have to place your second hand on the metal frame and it'll work perfect.
Dry hands are also not good.
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Yeah. If you press harder a larger area of your finger touches the display. I.E. more for the digitizer to sense.

boo6 said:
Dry hands are also not good.
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I'm definitely noticing this. I'm not exactly the type of guy to regularly moisturize my hands. I work in construction, and this capacitive screen absolutely sucks for me. I've been using resistive screens beautifully up to this point. I find I often have to lick my thumb regularly to get the screen to work properly. I have a ton of trouble unlocking the phone, since the screen thinks I've lifted my thumb halfway through the pattern. Using swype is a nightmare for this reason as well.
There are resistive multitouch screens on laptops and desktops now. I hope we see a swing back to resistive screens on smartphones.

I'm experiencing this problem aswell an i'm pretty much sure this is all software related, you can actually see the interface reacting to the press but it seems like the device never executes the action forcing you to press multiple times, annoying as hell yes! I sincerely hope SE fixes this in the next update.

Has anyone had any problems with accuracy? In some apps the touch registers like 5mm below where I actually touch.

I think the stock screen protector hinders the touch sensitivity quite a bit. Try getting a thinner screen protector. There is a thread talking about how sensitivity and accuracy improved when they took theirs off.

needmoregigs said:
I think the stock screen protector hinders the touch sensitivity quite a bit. Try getting a thinner screen protector. There is a thread talking about how sensitivity and accuracy improved when they took theirs off.
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Thanks for the tip but I already have an uberthin protector. That brand has worked very well on all other capacitive displays I've had. I'm suspecting a software bug rather than a hardware issue.

needmoregigs said:
I think the stock screen protector hinders the touch sensitivity quite a bit. Try getting a thinner screen protector. There is a thread talking about how sensitivity and accuracy improved when they took theirs off.
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I jammed my X10 in a sports armband for Ipod touch, it has a very thick plastic window and it did not affect the sensetivity a bit so i dont think the thin stock protector will do any difference. Just my opinion

ddewbofh said:
Has anyone had any problems with accuracy? In some apps the touch registers like 5mm below where I actually touch.
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I've noticed that on the dialer application.
Sometimes, while I am on Recent Calls section, I press the green telephone next to a contact and it calls the one right below it!

Haven't ever noticed any sort of oddness like that... and I have a thick screen protector on top of the stock one.
Occasionally I'll type a letter wrong, but that seems to have improved with the update from two weeks ago.

Any way to make the keyboard larger?

Too small for my big fingers. Thanks!

Nope. Get a phone with a bigger screen.

I thought the keyboard was too small as well because I'm used to a physical keyboard (Tilt). It takes a while to get used to, but it's pretty functional.
I'm sure you have tried, but if haven't, switch it to landscape and the keyboard should be larger.

Aturayd said:
Nope. Get a phone with a bigger screen.
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Very helpful there guy, thanks alot.

XeNoMoRpH1030 said:
I thought the keyboard was too small as well because I'm used to a physical keyboard (Tilt). It takes a while to get used to, but it's pretty functional.
I'm sure you have tried, but if haven't, switch it to landscape and the keyboard should be larger.
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I'm disappointed in at&t for not picking up the 7 Pro that went to sprint since it is basically the successor to the previous 2 Tilts.

wait for the tilt3.

dressanderc said:
Very helpful there guy, thanks alot.
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If landscape is too small for you on a 3.8" screen i dont know what else to tell you. Maybe the HD7 would be a better fit.

Aturayd said:
If landscape is too small for you on a 3.8" screen i dont know what else to tell you. Maybe the HD7 would be a better fit.
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I think what he is talking about is how the keyboard does not resize in landscape mode to utilize the extra real estate offered - it really is annoying...

But it does resize in landscape mode?

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But it does resize in landscape mode?
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It does resize, but it doesn't stretch to take up the whole width of the screen. Basically, when you flip to landscape mode, your status bar runs along the left of the screen and your menu bar runs along the right, so it looks like there's some empty spaces on the sides of the keyboard.

Calibrating the S-Pen

Hi guys. I'd like to know if there is any way to calibrate the S-Pen, somethink like in the old Windows Mobile days with that little cross which you had to tap to calibrate your screen to the stylus. It's off by a few pixels on my note, which makes it annoying.

+1 .......

My GN too is off by a few pixel and is kinda annoying specially for some precision drawing.

It's supposed to be off, that's why you set it for left and right handed so you can see what your doing.
All you need to do is get used to it.

yeah that how they design . like set the right hand then it will off a bit on the left . if setting using left hand then it will off to the right side a bit. but its only on s memo ? seem to be spot on in browsing web.

I just did a little discovery. When I touch the screen either with one finger of my other hand or with part of the hand which holds the pen TOGETHER with S Pen, the accuracy is much better then by touching the screen solely by S Pen. Tested with default stylus and some OEM Lifebook tablet PC stylus. Both behave better when I rest my palm on screen while drawing/writting.

cube48 said:
I just did a little discovery. When I touch the screen either with one finger of my other hand or with part of the hand which holds the pen TOGETHER with S Pen, the accuracy is much better then by touching the screen solely by S Pen. Tested with default stylus and some OEM Lifebook tablet PC stylus. Both behave better when I rest my palm on screen while drawing/writting.
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Are you sure you aren't just holding the pen at a slightly different angle when doing that? The way you hold the pen makes quite a big difference to the accuracy in my experience.

I think that the precision of the pen is perfect.
I think it's wrong yours handle
not using the pen perpendicular ...
try to held the s-pen as a real pen (inclined) and you'll find it very precise.
you must use it as you use one pen with a sheet of paper
I don't think you write with the pen perpendicular the book...

Elenkis said:
Are you sure you aren't just holding the pen at a slightly different angle when doing that? The way you hold the pen makes quite a big difference to the accuracy in my experience.
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The angle definitely impacts the precision. As written above the usual 'paper and pen' holding is the best and also the upward pen button orientation helps. But somehow I get even more precise results when touching the screen.

I just get a my replacement of galaxy note from the shop due to the screeen problem in my last phone.
I am quite frustrated because I found that my s pen really needs calibration. My last galaxy note, although the screen had problem, it didn't have any calibration problem that the s pen is so accurate. So unhappy
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SNiiPE_DoGG said:
It's supposed to be off, that's why you set it for left and right handed so you can see what your doing.
All you need to do is get used to it.
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It should get used to me, not the other way round.
I'm left-handed, and many left handers have different ways of holding pens due to smudge-avoidance habits. Setting the phone to "left handed" may suit some lefties, but not me.
What's so difficult about allowing personal calibration, Samsung?

I've found my pen is inaccurate too, unless you're holding it and using it like a pen and not a stylus... If that makes sense?
If you use it like a traditional stylus on resistive touch screen and expect the point of the stylus to be exactly where it hits the screen regardless of pen angle then it'll always appear to be very inaccurate. But if you treat it more like a normal pen and hold it at a normal handwriting angle and except the mark to appear where the tip of the pencil would be in that position its just fine.
Change your mindset: This is a standard pencil, not a stylus. Once you treat it like a normal pencil/pen and use it like you normally do handwriting instead of as a stylus poking at the screen you'll find its very good.

mine also a bit off its upper then the actual touch point.
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erlz said:
mine also a bit off its upper then the actual touch point.
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Mine too. I really think this was a deliberate move by Samsung. More like a pencil/pen than a stylus.

daxmedflax said:
Mine too. I really think this was a deliberate move by Samsung. More like a pencil/pen than a stylus.
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This. It's supposed to be this way, to make writing more natural. Not a flaw, but I do wish there was an option to disable it. Maybe a mod in the future will enable us to.
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Unsinkable II said:
It should get used to me, not the other way round.
I'm left-handed, and many left handers have different ways of holding pens due to smudge-avoidance habits. Setting the phone to "left handed" may suit some lefties, but not me.
What's so difficult about allowing personal calibration, Samsung?
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Fully agreed - we should be able to calibrate it. and it should definitely get used to us and not the other way around!!!!
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kebong said:
This. It's supposed to be this way, to make writing more natural. Not a flaw, but I do wish there was an option to disable it. Maybe a mod in the future will enable us to.
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It seems like a flaw to me. When I use it towards the center of the screen it seems OK, as I get closer to the edges it drifts off center. It certainly looks like a calibration bug to me.

same issue, need to hold it like a pen

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19491160
Check out this thread
I posted a rather long thing about the accuracy issue.
Basically, there's a set offset based on left/right handedness, which will change depending on the orientation of the screen. If the angle at which you write moves outside of what Samsung deems "normal" then it becomes horribly inaccurate.

Everyone is trying to stick up for and justify this pen problem...if this is the case, how come other drawing programs on the note aren't nearly as bad?

Galaxy Note Wiyh SoftKeys

Hi
Which one is better in CM9 in your opinion?
With SoftKeys?
Without SoftKeys?

I don't get why youd even want softkeys, why would you want to waste a portion of your screen with keys that you have already have anyway

i didn't buy a device with a 5.3" screen because i like wasting screen real estate...

i did buy a device with a 5.3" screen because i like wasting screen real estate!
Tablet mode with touch keys is how i use it now.
I even disabled the original menu/back button, cause i touch them while typing.

Soft keys for the multitasking button. With such a large screen we can easily afford to waste screen real estate.

Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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Rayan said:
Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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So will your status bar.

I personally love the onscreen buttons. I disable the other ones and disable the backlight as well. I do this for the fact that my kids and I would constantly back out of things when grabbing the phone landscape. I like the fact that with the onscreen you have somewhere to grab the phone without backing out. And although not a big deal, its less stress not having to press the big button, and this I would think would help the longevity of the hardware button itself . But in the end, it's purely preference, oh and I don't worry about the burn in as I have mine set very low so its just noticeable and It moves when I open apps and when I go landscape.

Spartoi said:
So will your status bar.
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I think that was so freaking obvious so I didn't mentioned it.
Point is, why have yet another static object on screen?
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skillz9669 said:
And although not a big deal, its less stress not having to press the big button
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That is the main reason why I enable software keys on every ICS ROM I try! When you try on-screen keys you will feel how LONG it takes to launch the recent apps panel using the long-pres on Home button! Add to that I got very used to multitask using the recent apps softkey then physical button will only hinder my speed and will wear out in a matter of couple months

I've flashed the soft keys and disabled the back lights of the hardware keys, but how do I completely disable the hardware keys so I won't press them by accident?
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Rayan said:
I think that was so freaking obvious so I didn't mentioned it.
Point is, why have yet another static object on screen?
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I think its so freaking obvious that you're gonna have a burn in (allegedly) regardless.
Point is, why even bother trying avoid a screen burn in if its inevitable.

Rayan said:
I think that was so freaking obvious so I didn't mentioned it.
Point is, why have yet another static object on screen?
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Point is if u enable softkey , ur status bar blend in with the keys to to bottom of the screen. Where is the another static object comes from? It is still one black bar just different position.
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Rayan said:
Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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Have to quote this again so people are aware. Amoleds are notorious for ghosting due to pixel wear out burnout whatever you want to call it. Using the ICS on screen virtual buttons will surely destroy your screen.
That's why I also autohide my notification bar on the home screens.
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Spartoi said:
I think its so freaking obvious that you're gonna have a burn in (allegedly) regardless.
Point is, why even bother trying avoid a screen burn in if its inevitable.
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Burn out is avoidable provided you don't leave static images on the screen for long periods of time. With the notification bar it is always there unless you use a launcher that hides it on the home screens and apps that have the option to hide the notification bar as well.
I use opera mobile so I can browse in full screen and not worry about static notification bars. Also use launcher pro so I can hide the notification bar.

Azeazezar said:
i did buy a device with a 5.3" screen because i like wasting screen real estate!
Tablet mode with touch keys is how i use it now.
I even disabled the original menu/back button, cause i touch them while typing.
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How did you disabled them??? Is there an easy way?

I like to use the softkeys simply becuase it allows me to completely disable the capacitive buttons and use my s pen to go back, home and bring up the multitasking window pane :good:

Rayan said:
Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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That's one of those old wives tales.
The burn-in isn't so much related to the technology as it is related to build quality.
Most of those issues are stemming from Gnex owners, and the ones with problems usually have other build quality problems too... they just were unlucky to have a bad batch that skipped QC.
I've got a friend who had the Gnex from day one, and to this day... no burn-ins!
I would normally prefer physical buttons (ftw) but I'm going to have to agree that the Note needs "soft buttons" aka on-screen Navigations.
Why?
Because it gets annoying shifting finger to stylus and back again during the daily use.
Bonus reasons:
- without it, the device looks much better (like the Gnex or N9)
- these can be customized for colour, glow, function and gestures

Improve touch sensitivity

Hi, is there any way to increase display touch sensitivity? Im asking because I use a screen protector and its really unsensitive.

Maybe is there a way we can change/modify/downgrade/upgrade our touch screen firmware.
Does anybody know which touchscreen firmware we have?

TrueMS said:
Hi, is there any way to increase display touch sensitivity? Im asking because I use a screen protector and its really unsensitive.
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Switch to a better screen protector. The 'full glue' ones have better sensitivity than the ones with 'dot matrix' especially in the corners.

barrack1 said:
Switch to a better screen protector. The 'full glue' ones have better sensitivity than the ones with 'dot matrix' especially in the corners.
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I think I have the glued ones, its not bad, but it just slightly less sensitive. Typing on keyboard is a bit tricky, but I got used to that.
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