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Which one is better in CM9 in your opinion?
With SoftKeys?
Without SoftKeys?
I don't get why youd even want softkeys, why would you want to waste a portion of your screen with keys that you have already have anyway
i didn't buy a device with a 5.3" screen because i like wasting screen real estate...
i did buy a device with a 5.3" screen because i like wasting screen real estate!
Tablet mode with touch keys is how i use it now.
I even disabled the original menu/back button, cause i touch them while typing.
Soft keys for the multitasking button. With such a large screen we can easily afford to waste screen real estate.
Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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Rayan said:
Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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So will your status bar.
I personally love the onscreen buttons. I disable the other ones and disable the backlight as well. I do this for the fact that my kids and I would constantly back out of things when grabbing the phone landscape. I like the fact that with the onscreen you have somewhere to grab the phone without backing out. And although not a big deal, its less stress not having to press the big button, and this I would think would help the longevity of the hardware button itself . But in the end, it's purely preference, oh and I don't worry about the burn in as I have mine set very low so its just noticeable and It moves when I open apps and when I go landscape.
Spartoi said:
So will your status bar.
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I think that was so freaking obvious so I didn't mentioned it.
Point is, why have yet another static object on screen?
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skillz9669 said:
And although not a big deal, its less stress not having to press the big button
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That is the main reason why I enable software keys on every ICS ROM I try! When you try on-screen keys you will feel how LONG it takes to launch the recent apps panel using the long-pres on Home button! Add to that I got very used to multitask using the recent apps softkey then physical button will only hinder my speed and will wear out in a matter of couple months
I've flashed the soft keys and disabled the back lights of the hardware keys, but how do I completely disable the hardware keys so I won't press them by accident?
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I think that was so freaking obvious so I didn't mentioned it.
Point is, why have yet another static object on screen?
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I think its so freaking obvious that you're gonna have a burn in (allegedly) regardless.
Point is, why even bother trying avoid a screen burn in if its inevitable.
Rayan said:
I think that was so freaking obvious so I didn't mentioned it.
Point is, why have yet another static object on screen?
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Point is if u enable softkey , ur status bar blend in with the keys to to bottom of the screen. Where is the another static object comes from? It is still one black bar just different position.
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Rayan said:
Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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Have to quote this again so people are aware. Amoleds are notorious for ghosting due to pixel wear out burnout whatever you want to call it. Using the ICS on screen virtual buttons will surely destroy your screen.
That's why I also autohide my notification bar on the home screens.
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Spartoi said:
I think its so freaking obvious that you're gonna have a burn in (allegedly) regardless.
Point is, why even bother trying avoid a screen burn in if its inevitable.
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Burn out is avoidable provided you don't leave static images on the screen for long periods of time. With the notification bar it is always there unless you use a launcher that hides it on the home screens and apps that have the option to hide the notification bar as well.
I use opera mobile so I can browse in full screen and not worry about static notification bars. Also use launcher pro so I can hide the notification bar.
Azeazezar said:
i did buy a device with a 5.3" screen because i like wasting screen real estate!
Tablet mode with touch keys is how i use it now.
I even disabled the original menu/back button, cause i touch them while typing.
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How did you disabled them??? Is there an easy way?
I like to use the softkeys simply becuase it allows me to completely disable the capacitive buttons and use my s pen to go back, home and bring up the multitasking window pane :good:
Rayan said:
Also softkeys are not good for our SUPER AMOLED screens, they will be permanently burned to your screen after a few months!
No kidding!
Read about the AMOLED burn-in problem on Google.
Cheers!
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That's one of those old wives tales.
The burn-in isn't so much related to the technology as it is related to build quality.
Most of those issues are stemming from Gnex owners, and the ones with problems usually have other build quality problems too... they just were unlucky to have a bad batch that skipped QC.
I've got a friend who had the Gnex from day one, and to this day... no burn-ins!
I would normally prefer physical buttons (ftw) but I'm going to have to agree that the Note needs "soft buttons" aka on-screen Navigations.
Why?
Because it gets annoying shifting finger to stylus and back again during the daily use.
Bonus reasons:
- without it, the device looks much better (like the Gnex or N9)
- these can be customized for colour, glow, function and gestures
Related
I've just updated my Atrix to Gingerbread and all almost all my complaints about the Atrix are now gone! There are some things that do not please me though.
Here is a quick sum up of my experience so far:
Positive
- Lag between homescreens after you wake up the phone. Before Gingerbread I've tried ALL the major launchers and there was lag with ALL of them. With Gingerbread the lag is gone! Zeam Launcher is a beauty to use.
- The agenda/calendar app is close to perfection now. Really really excellent.
- The Gallery is very good.
- The dock and the look are very cool.
Could use improvement
- The music player really needs to allow you to organize your music by folder.
Step backwards.
- The Gingerbread keyboard is great but I really cannot understand why they took a step backwards and removed a great feature. With froyo once you clicked for some seconds on a letter you would get a pop up rectangle with all options regarding this letter (the same letter with accents, etc). The rectangle would stay there until you've selected your choice. But with Gingerbread you have to keep pressing the letter and then slide your finger to the option you want to select in the rectangle. This sucks! The keyboard would be just perfect if it weren't for this.
Still the same
- I thought that Motorola would finally allow you to decide for your self how many homescreens you need instead of still forcing you to have the number of homescreens that think it's right.
hmm, so far for me...
advantages of gingerbread
more free ram on bootup
games run slightly smoother (im assuming better drivers)
disadvantages
menus now have white background with black text. on an lcd screen, this can increase battery consumption notably compared to the previous white text on black background.
icons seem too large for my liking
doesnt feel as smooth as froyo in some areas
when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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hmm, so far for me...
advantages of gingerbread
more free ram on bootup
games run slightly smoother (im assuming better drivers)
disadvantages
menus now have white background with black text. on an lcd screen, this can increase battery consumption notably compared to the previous white text on black background.
icons seem too large for my liking
doesnt feel as smooth as froyo in some areas
when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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We have white sub pixels, so doesn't that help battery consumption? That's just what I've read thoughout the forum. This is qHD, not just a regular HTC LCD
The keyboard thing is really what's beyond my comprehension. Why would they take a step backwards?! Why? I even checked the settings to see if there was a way to change this but apparently there isn't. This may not be a big deal to english speakers but for languages like portuguese that have toons of accents it was a super useful asset. I hope Motorola fixes this.
You can download different keyboards, right?
Maybe one of them has the features you want.
wirednix said:
You can download different keyboards, right?
Maybe one of them has the features you want.
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Yes, I know, but it's just a shame that Motorola had such a great keyboard and had to go and change it for the worst.
Souai said:
hmm, so far for me...
advantages of gingerbread
more free ram on bootup
games run slightly smoother (im assuming better drivers)
disadvantages
menus now have white background with black text. on an lcd screen, this can increase battery consumption notably compared to the previous white text on black background.
icons seem too large for my liking
doesnt feel as smooth as froyo in some areas
when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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This is an lcd screen so the color has no effect on power usage at all. Only on amoled screens does black color drain less power than white. So the new color makes no difference.
i read a while ago a thread on allaboutmaemo or allaboutmeego that they tested the battery life difference between samsung galaxy s (lcd vs amoled) and they found that white backgrounds did increase battery consumption. although its not as bad of an increase when compared to amoled.
A white background will use slightly more power than a black background as all of the sub-pixels in the screen need a continuous charge to stay in the "on" position. However, I seriously doubt that the affect on power consumption would be anything other than negligible unless you are in the menus 24/7.
I do prefer a black background with white text though.
Souai said:
when typing with froyo, if you pressed once on an area in the text but missed your target, you could press and hold and a mini magnifying glass would pop up to help you place your text marker more easily. with gingerbread, this is replaced by just a little marker. just a minor annoyance imo.
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This sounds really bad! No magnifying glass anymore? That is an important feature to precisely place the cursor when you want to edit.
My problem after upgrading to the is connecting to my car's bluetooth (bluelogic). Once I turn the toggle on won't automatically connect anymore. I have to go to settings and connect it, it's says paired but not connected. Anybody knows how to fix this?
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jonstatt said:
This sounds really bad! No magnifying glass anymore? That is an important feature to precisely place the cursor when you want to edit.
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Hopefully it at least uses the SGS blue marker, which IMO was way better than the magnifying glass anyway...
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My problem after upgrading to the is connecting to my car's bluetooth (bluelogic). Once I turn the toggle on won't automatically connect anymore. I have to go to settings and connect it, it's says paired but not connected. Anybody knows how to fix this?
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Just delete/remove it and re-pair it. Should work fine then.
ccrows said:
Hopefully it at least uses the SGS blue marker, which IMO was way better than the magnifying glass anyway...
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it does, i dont think its that bad compared to the magnifying glass. just doesnt look as kool..
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A white background will use slightly more power than a black background as all of the sub-pixels in the screen need a continuous charge to stay in the "on" position. However, I seriously doubt that the affect on power consumption would be anything other than negligible unless you are in the menus 24/7.
I do prefer a black background with white text though.
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White background battery draining is more about Amoled screen phones...
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Just delete/remove it and re-pair it. Should work fine then.
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Did it twice and still doesn't work .
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Homescreen scrolling is still slow. I love the new look but I keep going back to launcherpro. Seriously, why can they just make it smooth like launcherpro?
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Upgrade was successful on first attempt. After 5-minutes use... app icons appear to be larger - have not checked if there is a setting for that. I thought I heard that we would be able to get more icons per screen so maybe there is a setting. Contacts application appears to work differently and contact details are not as compact as previously. Weather Channel app took some time to load but I see it is up now. I like the new look of the alert bar. Anyway that's after only 5-minutes of playing around.
I got the same problem as you. Can't seem to find a fix for this.
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Anyone know how to get back the ability of linking contacts to facebook profiles manually? Its no longer an option anymore :-\
Hi everyone.
I just started using on-screen buttons and I like them, in most aspects....
I love the portrait view with the buttons, it is a lot nicer then the Nexus soft keys we have in my opinion. Especially because I made the screen buttons blue .
However some things about these buttons really annoy me. I can't stand that in landscape my screen feels cramped and I don't get that 'full' feeling. Actually I think the only thing bugging me is landscape views...
What do you guys think about on-screen buttons? Do you like/hate them, favorite part, all of that stuff. I know they're pushing me to getting a real Galaxy Nexus haha .
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I haven't used them yet, but in principle I am totally against them.
Not sure why I should waste my screen real estate with an area that has a completely static function.
At the moment, all phones are forced to have a bezel of some size, so why not stick buttons in that area and keep as much screen space active as possible!
In the future, when we have bezel-less devices, then I guess we will be forced to have on screen buttons
I absolutely love 'em. Having a navbar is now a prerequisite before flashing a rom.
Only gripe is I can't change mine. I like the reflective style and have tried several methods but mine won't change. Not a big deal.
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Don't care for em.......not even sure I'll grab a GNex because of it.....the HTC One X got it right....
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I'm asking this because I have never used a nexus device before.
I have seen some photos and noticed that the on-screen buttons appears while gaming.
So isn't this a problem? I mean you can accidently touch a button and it will mess everything up.
Is there an option to make the buttons less sensitive while gaming? or is it not an issue at all and it's a matter of getting used to it?
Also what is your opinion about them compared to the buttons in.. lets say.. SGS3.. what is more comfortable in your opinion?
I'm really intersted in buying the Nexus 4 but first I want to make sure that the most basic stuff, the on-screen buttons, are efficient and comfortable to use so I'm waiting for your answers
I've had a Gnex since July and I love the on screen buttons. Never had a problem with them. I actually like them better than the capacitive ones because you don't have to reach as far to the bottom of the phone. I owned a gs3 for a couple days and it was difficult for me to reach the menu button and I have pretty big hands. Hope this helps!
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I've never had a problem with them getting in the way. Some screens will hide those keys if neccessary.
How ever software keys does cause image retention, I noticed just this past week when playing a youtube video in full screen that the notification bar and software keys leave distorted display in those areas.
Not a big deal to me, will buy the LG Nexus 4
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I've never had a problem with them getting in the way. Some screens will hide those keys if neccessary.
How ever software keys does cause image retention, I noticed just this past week when playing a youtube video in full screen that the notification bar and software keys leave distorted display in those areas.
Not a big deal to me, will buy the LG Nexus 4
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That image retention is only because of the super amoled. Nexus 4 has ips LCD,issues like black crushing, burn ins won't be present
If it can help, custom ROM like Paranoid or CyanogneMod have an option in the Power Menu (when holding power button) to hide or display the NavBar. (Source)
Ok guys, I think I have found a way to fix the burn in on the moto x for the navigation bar and status bar. There is this app called screen diagnostic where it will have a fullscreen image to make the status bar white and reverse the colors of the navigation bar. But there may still be burn in on the status bar because the icons are white and the status bar is white with the app. That's where you guys will come in handy. We need people of every carrier who are rooted with gravity box installed to take a screen shot of there phone on nova launcher with no dock and no icons with a black wallpaper with the status bar and navigation bar on the negative colors. Then we need those people to share it here and we can use the screenshot with the app! Boom! burn-in fixed for people who don't want to root!
Good find. I haven't personally had a problem with burn in but it's nice to have this option
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I use Screen Burn-in Tool, which is made for AMOLED screens. Using all white wears out the organic materials used in AMOLEDs, especially the blue pixels.
Watch more porn or movies/shows (Netflix/Hulu) or YouTube - anything full screen with moving images.
I just hope the burn in doesn't get as bad as my gnex did.
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I just hope the burn in doesn't get as bad as my gnex did.
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I use my GNex as an alarm clock now. Screen is set to never go off. Holy hell is it awful now haha.
Jason.DROID said:
I use Screen Burn-in Tool, which is made for AMOLED screens. Using all white wears out the organic materials used in AMOLEDs, especially the blue pixels.
Watch more porn or movies/shows (Netflix/Hulu) or YouTube - anything full screen with moving images.
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Hahahaha this guy ^^^
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How real of an issue is this with normal use? I've never noticed any burn in on any prior AMOLED screens, but I also never leave my screens on for hours at a time.
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elpeterson said:
I use my GNex as an alarm clock now. Screen is set to never go off. Holy hell is it awful now haha.
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I fired up my Nexus again after using the Moto X for about a week, and holy crap that screen was almost painful to look at. It's got a nice big Pandora "P" burned into the middle of the screen from having it docked in the car with the screen always on.
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How real of an issue is this with normal use? I've never noticed any burn in on any prior AMOLED screens, but I also never leave my screens on for hours at a time.
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Only phone I ever had with AMOLED was the GNex. I never really had my screen on for too long either but over a year the status bar and nav bar had burn in issues. It wasn't really noticeable unless you were made aware of it. I would imagine they have gotten better at it but it is simply good to be proactive about it, especially when you are considering keeping the phone upwards of 2 years as a daily driver.
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I never really had my screen on for too long either but over a year the status bar and nav bar had burn in issues. It wasn't really noticeable unless you were made aware of it.
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I think with the new "Immersive Mode" feature in Kit Kat people will start noticing this more.
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I think with the new "Immersive Mode" feature in Kit Kat people will start noticing this more.
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But at the same time, itll stop burn in from happening more.
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But at the same time, itll stop burn in from happening more.
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Haha, you must use it a LOT more than I do.
This is my 3rd amoled phone...never had any sort of burn in. You must have to leave something there with the screen on for a lonnnnnnng time. Lol
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Hello everyone,
If any of you have S5's or have used them, can you comment on the visibility of them when they are switched off?
Something that really irks me is if the capacitive buttons can be seen when they are not being used, an I plan on rooting and disabling the capacitive buttons from the get go, and probably using PIE controls when/if they are available. Also if nthey are/not visible, does it depend on the color of S5?
Thanks
Yummerzzz said:
Hello everyone,
If any of you have S5's or have used them, can you comment on the visibility of them when they are switched off?
Something that really irks me is if the capacitive buttons can be seen when they are not being used, an I plan on rooting and disabling the capacitive buttons from the get go, and probably using PIE controls when/if they are available. Also if nthey are/not visible, does it depend on the color of S5?
Thanks
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It cant bee seen. For the white version it can be
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leoaudio13 said:
It cant bee seen. For the white version it can be
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Phew, thank you, I wasn't really interested in the white as much.
It's just because of the images on the 3UK site, in which the buttons are visible.
In terms of mobile phones that has to be one of the strangest concerns I have ever read about.
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In terms of mobile phones that has to be one of the strangest concerns I have ever read about.
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It is pretty odd now that I think about it, I just hate capacitive buttons for no reason really. On the plus side I get the full 5.1" real estate.
But what KILLS me about this particular phone is that multitasking is on the *wrong* side of the button layout.
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It is pretty odd now that I think about it, I just hate capacitive buttons for no reason really. On the plus side I get the full 5.1" real estate.
But what KILLS me about this particular phone is that multitasking is on the *wrong* side of the button layout.
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Agree cos im lefty
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