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So I've lately had one issue with my GS4, it shows signs of the "Loss of Service" bug that the GS2 was having for a while. It randomly drops calls and service completely, sometimes will bounce back to service but sometimes it locks into No Service mode and drains the battery; only fix is to enable and then disable airplane mode. So anyway, I've tried everything to fix it and Sprint wont give me a new phone, and I didn't want to take a refurb since I've had it for only 2 months. The guy at the store usually does everything he can for me, but I understand his hands are tied and can't issue a new phone on the spot, even though it has consistent issues.
Soooo getting to the punch line here, sorry for the backstory. In troubleshooting the phone, we had the battery out and the tech had the phone apart, noticing that the water stickers have been activated. Now I would be honest if I had submerged the phone or gotten it wet in any way, but I truly have not. The only thing I can think of is that my phone is ALWAYS encased in it's Otterbox Defender case, and 80% of the time it's in my pocket. I do tree work, and I kid you not I am drenched in sweat all day every day. Is it possible that the water stickers activated from the sweat and condensation trapped in the case and phone? I usually have to take my case apart to wipe the moisture from in between the cases screen protector and phone. Samsung probably wont issue me a new phone under their warranty now (which was my only option for a NEW phone at this point)...Any input on the possibilities and way to prove it? Also, there is 0 corrosion on the phone, we inspected it very thoroughly. Any help is appreciated, cheers!
Yes humidity or condensation can definitely trigger the water damage sticker. As for what you should do, don't you have insurance, file a claim.
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Yes humidity or condensation can definitely trigger the water damage sticker. As for what you should do, don't you have insurance, file a claim.
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Insurance is $200 when it's water damage I believe...
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Insurance is $200 when it's water damage I believe...
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Idk what insurance you have. But it's better than $500-$650. Put it in a bag of rice for a day or two. With the cover off and the battery out. It will get the moisture out.
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Apple recently lost a lawsuit for refusing to repair phones that had the faulty sensors which would/could change color due to humidity alone.
[h**p://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57586562-37/apple-settles-iphone-water-damage-lawsuit-for-$53m/]
Insurance claim is $150.
It is known by the industry the the liquid indicators may at times be too sensitive and are sometimes put it poor locations.
Even with knowing this, it is an easy excuse to not replace your unit. All providers do it.
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You could, depending on where you live, claim high humidity as the culprit. In the southern states, where it's usually 70%+ humidity all the time, overly sensitive stickers could be triggered. Where I live, it's usually 80 plus every day. I just checked weather bug now, and at 3am where I live, it's 95% humidity and no rain nearby.
Very good point about the humidity also. I live in rural PA and it does tend to get incredibly humid in the spring and summer. Between the humidity, and having my phone in the pocket of my sweaty carhartt pants encased in an otterbox, I can imagine the moisture would really collect in there. The true test will be getting a new battery and checking it periodically to see if that sticker activates eventually. I will also check the phone sticker in a few weeks, seeing as I went the refurb route to get a new phone. Since getting a brand new one wasn't happening for me, I just did the service exchange and the water damage may have slipped the tech's mind. Now if my phone breaks 5 more times, Sprint will give me a new device, so we'll see what happens. I appreciate all the input, hopefully other people don't have this issue!
Here's a video of an Xperia Z3 damaged by water. It's so sad.
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10154692523715398&set=vb.653365397&type=2&theater
I've done the same and mine didn't die.
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I've done the same and mine didn't die.
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It's so sad to recieve a defective unit. I'm really saving for this one.
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It's so sad to recieve a defective unit. I'm really saving for this one.
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The Best thing you could do is check if the Phone is waterproof BEFORE putting it in water. Hint is not mine but I forgot who posted it before, sorry. To check it you have to close all flaps and call *#*#7378423#*#*, then go to service test and pressure sensor. With all flaps closed press gently on the screen, if pressure will increase that means the Phone is waterproof
Genial! thx!
Nothing unusually from sony ,
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Nothing unusually from sony ,
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...and that means?
the app CPU-Z shows the pressure sensor data too if you don't want to have to remember that code every time. :good:
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the app CPU-Z shows the pressure sensor data too if you don't want to have to remember that code every time. :good:
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Yep, that is what I used.
The pressure spiked up so I assume mine's watertight.
I also tried to do a test with CPU-Z ... yes, the pressure sensor returns a value higher than nominal at that time. The same thing happens if I press the center of the screen with the phone on a table, if I press the edges, if I press the frames inward etc ... I tried to do another experiment: with the phone on the table, I put on screen a weight (whatever, the important thing is that you see the value of the pressure) and the pressure is increased, then return a little later to the previous value. Try that and let me know. I've got a screen display with a little on the right side beetween screen and frame. By the way, if the test is ok, my z3 should be waterproof.
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The Best thing you could do is check if the Phone is waterproof BEFORE putting it in water. Hint is not mine but I forgot who posted it before, sorry. To check it you have to close all flaps and call *#*#7378423#*#*, then go to service test and pressure sensor. With all flaps closed press gently on the screen, if pressure will increase that means the Phone is waterproof
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Ahh. Thanks for that tip. I'm really eyeing for this device. I'm wondering if this phone would easily bend if placed in the front pocket. And in that way if the phone bends a bit, it may take away the waterproof of the phone.
I would say checking the Barometer reading on the phone is a good way to determine whether the phone is waterproof or not. I pressed on the screen with the flaps open, there is no increase in pressure.
Easy way to remember the code
the code is actually a name shortcut using T9 dialer
so if you press *#*#SERVICE#*#* it's the same code, this way it's easier for you to remember
I wonder if the test pass (like the pressure is increasing in that *#*#SERVICE#*#*. Then I put it into the water and it's not resist and dead, will I get warranty?
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I would say checking the Barometer reading on the phone is a good way to determine whether the phone is waterproof or not. I pressed on the screen with the flaps open, there is no increase in pressure.
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Why would you expect a change in pressure with the flaps open? There's no change in pressure.
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Ahh. Thanks for that tip. I'm really eyeing for this device. I'm wondering if this phone would easily bend if placed in the front pocket. And in that way if the phone bends a bit, it may take away the waterproof of the phone.
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Just wanna mention that my phone did bend while in my front pocket. I took pictures of it somewhere but cannot find it. It was the area just behind the volume rocker. I was out barhopping the night before and was wearing tighter jeans than normal. The phone was never dropped and there were no other marks on the phone besides the bulging of this one area as it became separated from the back glass. It did not, however, affect the water resistant properties of the phone as far as I could tell. I ran it under some water in the sink and it remained functioning. I since sold it cause I could not tolerate the imperfection....my new one has had no issues for the past week even traveling in the same jeans pocket all day.
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Just wanna mention that my phone did bend while in my front pocket. I took pictures of it somewhere but cannot find it. It was the area just behind the volume rocker. I was out barhopping the night before and was wearing tighter jeans than normal. The phone was never dropped and there were no other marks on the phone besides the bulging of this one area as it became separated from the back glass. It did not, however, affect the water resistant properties of the phone as far as I could tell. I ran it under some water in the sink and it remained functioning. I since sold it cause I could not tolerate the imperfection....my new one has had no issues for the past week even traveling in the same jeans pocket all day.
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Wow. Does the bend really that obvious like the ones in the iphone 6+?
Water damage to Z3
Hello guys,
Sony z3 user from singapore here.
Got my phone on the 10th of December 2014. On the 19th of December, I went swimming with the phone. Before I went into the pool, I ensured that the flaps were sealed tightly. The first 5 minutes were all fun and laughter as I was able to take some underwater shots. But not even 10 minutes later, the screen begins to flicker and I was scared that the phone had water damage. Cut the vacation short and went home with a heavy heart. Tried to put it inside rice to dry but the phone screen didn't come to life.
Everything else bout' the phone still work. People could still call me and I can hear my ringtone (but I could not accept the call as the screen wasn't responding.), charging still work as vibration, sound and charging notification light till work. Even my alarm rang at the exact time. When I went to check the water ingress indication in the usb and sd card/sim card port, it is still white and not pink (which meant that the water didn't even enter from the port).
This is very disappointing as IPX8 rating was the only reason i bought the sony Z3. Currently I have sent it to the service center in Singapore. WIll keep you guys updated.
Maybe it some went through gaps in the frame/front or back glass. Two Z3s I exchanged you could see the glue intermittently along the frame and had severe light bleed when seen at night. So it could have been that, some Z2s had water leaking in from the camera area.
So its important to do the pressure check.
There's also countless dedicated barometer apps in the play store that do the same thing without having to go through any menu's. I prefer barometer+.
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Karstine said:
Hello guys,
Sony z3 user from singapore here.
Got my phone on the 10th of December 2014. On the 19th of December, I went swimming with the phone. Before I went into the pool, I ensured that the flaps were sealed tightly. The first 5 minutes were all fun and laughter as I was able to take some underwater shots. But not even 10 minutes later, the screen begins to flicker and I was scared that the phone had water damage. Cut the vacation short and went home with a heavy heart. Tried to put it inside rice to dry but the phone screen didn't come to life.
Everything else bout' the phone still work. People could still call me and I can hear my ringtone (but I could not accept the call as the screen wasn't responding.), charging still work as vibration, sound and charging notification light till work. Even my alarm rang at the exact time. When I went to check the water ingress indication in the usb and sd card/sim card port, it is still white and not pink (which meant that the water didn't even enter from the port).
This is very disappointing as IPX8 rating was the only reason i bought the sony Z3. Currently I have sent it to the service center in Singapore. WIll keep you guys updated.
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Were you swimming in a chlorinated pool? Pretty sure chlorine is a no no.
It's pretty late here so i'm going to keep this simple.
I preordered a black s7 the day it was announced, got it on March 7. Had an s6 before.
It's amazing and all, but what was not so amazing for me was the water resistance.
It got pretty dirty after 1 day of use, so I thought it was a good idea to gently wash it with water and soap - Samsung claims it's water resistant, right?
As soon as i finished washing it, the phone started acting like I was pressing the volume down button. Shortly after that, it started showing the wireless charging animation, again and again.
I decided to power it off, I got my hair dryer and I ejected the sim tray ; was very surprised to find water all over my sim card and the sim tray itself. The water damage indicator/sticker was also touched by the water, making it turn from white to red/pink.
After heating it up with the hair dryer moderately, I powered it on. Surprise, it won't get past the "Galaxy S7" boot screen, like most Samsung Galaxy phones do in case water enters the phone.
It was rebooting after 10 seconds and doing the same thing. This lasted for 10 minutes. My biggest concern here was amoled burn in (google it if you don't know what it means). I managed to boot to recovery and power it off.
I waited for this phone a lot, 3 months to be exact, and turning it into a brick after 1 day of having it is not a good feeling at all.
I put my phone in a bag of rice and left it on the desk. 3 hours later (i had to go somewhere), I got it out of the bag of rice, and powered it on. It went to recovery, I chose to reboot to system, and it did boot. All the features and sensors were working.
Last night I tried rebooting it and it would do the same thing like it did after I washed it. Left it in rice overnight and today morning it booted up. So yeah, something is still broken, but at least I have it working now.
I think the soap caused the water to enter the phone.
I suggest you don't try to wash your phone like I did.
wow. so much for water resistance.
*edit*whoops didn't read the part about soap. yeah, only like lukewarm water they suggest.
Water Resistant, Not waterproof. Tell Samsung about this and they'll tell you all about it.
Water resistant means just that it doesn't mean that it is solvent or cleaner resistant, no cleaners ever just water I feel your pain sir I had to learn this the hard way as well.
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Why on earth did you use soap? :silly:
Soap lower water surface tension and make water more intrusive though small opening I guess.
So don't use soap lol.
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OP, you'll have fanbois jumping all over you wanting to educate you on water resistance and water proof like its rocket science. Point is that they are all wrong. IP 68 means you should be able to do exactly what you did - wash your phone off in water for a few minutes. These S7s just don't seem to be holding up to their IP 68 ratings (I returned an Edge because an underwater photo caused water resistance to fail and fast charging to not work anymore).
Feel your pain. Send it back under buyer's remorse and get another one.
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OP, you'll have fanbois jumping all over you wanting to educate you on water resistance and water proof like its rocket science. Point is that they are all wrong. IP 68 means you should be able to do exactly what you did - wash your phone off in water for a few minutes. These S7s just don't seem to be holding up to their IP 68 ratings (I returned an Edge because an underwater photo caused water resistance to fail and fast charging to not work anymore).
Feel your pain. Send it back under buyer's remorse and get another one.
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OP used soap. It wasn't the water, it was the soap. Soap is a base and messes up all kinds of things. Possibly reacted with the nano coating or the seals.
I've washed my S5 several times with soap - and that is only IP67-rated. Should be fine.
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OP used soap. It wasn't the water, it was the soap.
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This is a fact:
NonXtreme said:
Soap lower water surface tension and make water more intrusive though small opening I guess.
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A few weeks ago I watched a video on how Samsung obtained it's IP68 rating for the S7/E. The video explicitly mentions relying on the surface tension of water to keep it out of microscreens for components like the speaker. Lower the surface tension of water, and it will flow places it didn't before.
Lesson learned for all of us.
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I've washed my S5 several times with soap - and that is only IP67-rated. Should be fine.
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Apples to oranges. The two devices have totally different construction. Anyone who takes your advice with an S7/E is headed for the same trouble as the OP.
After checking out a teardown of an S5, I do see the difference speakerwise - the S5 have a selfcontained speaker, which can handle water - while the S7 doesn't and as you said, relies on surface tension. That's not good..
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After checking out a teardown of an S5, I do see the difference speakerwise - the S5 have a selfcontained speaker, which can handle water - while the S7 doesn't and as you said, relies on surface tension. That's not good..
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And the S5 doesn't have internal gaskets on an SIM/SD slot or it's USB port.
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It's pretty late here so i'm going to keep this simple.
I preordered a black s7 the day it was announced, got it on March 7. Had an s6 before.
It's amazing and all, but what was not so amazing for me was the water resistance.
It got pretty dirty after 1 day of use
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You should have learned at the physics classes in school that water does not conduct electricity, but as soon as you add soap it becomes a conductor. So you have shorted all the exposed connections, like the USB pins, headphone jack pins and what not. The water resistance of the phone is not based on protecting the SIM tray, the seals are between the SIM tray and the rest of the phone, so you also shorted the SIM contacts.
At least now you know
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You should have learned at the physics classes in school that water does not conduct electricity, but as soon as you add soap it becomes a conductor. So you have shorted all the exposed connections, like the USB pins, headphone jack pins and what not. The water resistance of the phone is not based on protecting the SIM tray, the seals are between the SIM tray and the rest of the phone, so you also shorted the SIM contacts.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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You don't have "buyer's remorse" where you live? Here in the US, we get 14 days (20 in some cases) to return the phone no questions asked for a full refund.
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And that's why all my phone's features still work and nothing is damaged?
Thanks to everyone who replied to my thread, I went today to the carrier I bought the phone from (Orange)'s store and they told me to send it to warranty, and that's what i'm going to do. Hopefully i get my phone replaced, lol
It sucks that if i want it to boot i have to wait a day with my phone in rice, that also means bye bye installing new firmware which is the reason why i'm sending it to warranty since I always loved flashing custom roms, besides that I wouldn't really mind waiting a day for it to boot but I'm afraid that one day it will not boot anymore.
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Hmmm, I could swear I saw somewhere that Samsung will look for the white tags that turn pink when wet. If they see that the tag got wet then they won't honor a warranty. Not sure if this is true but somewhere today I read that. I think it was that tear down of the S7 ifixit did. or it was a link from there.
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Hmmm, I could swear I saw somewhere that Samsung will look for the white tags that turn pink when wet. If they see that the tag got wet then they won't honor a warranty. Not sure if this is true but somewhere today I read that. I think it was that tear down of the S7 ifixit did. or it was a link from there.
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You can see them clearly in this video:
I have an update, and I want to describe here exactly what happens every time I power it on:
Galaxy S7 screen -> boots straight into recovery.
Every time I reboot from recovery it does the following:
Galaxy S7 screen -> completely black screen -> Galaxy S7 screen -> recovery.
Every single time it enters recovery, it displays an android figure with two refresh arrows spinning, then displaying a yellow exclamation mark warning and shows the recovery options. Does it do this only for me or for you guys too?
I have tried to:
reflash the rom both via odin and kies
factory reset a bunch of times
wipe cache a bunch of times
I have done everything possible to get rid of ALL the water, and I'm sure there is no more water in it. I vacuum'ed the motherboard and left it in rice for 3 nights. does the same thing.
Warranty is also gone because the water damage indicator turned red/pink from white.
I think it's either permanent physical damage to the motherboard, or the water damaged the emmc chip and somehow corrupted the memory (???)
I also made a video of me powering it on, then rebooting it, but I'm unable to post it because new members can't post links until they've reached 10 posts.
also sorry for any grammar mistakes it's 6am lol
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Water Resistant, Not waterproof. Tell Samsung about this and they'll tell you all about it.
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Actually by stating that it's IP68, it should mean that the device is indeed water PROOF. IDK why would samsung conflict the two things. If it's water resistant only, samsung should've stated that it's only IP67. False advertisement don't you think?
True story:
When he was 8, my little brother snuck our pet snapping turtles out into the woods behind our house and played with them in a muddy puddle. Thinking he would get in trouble for taking them out of their bowl and getting them dirty, he washed them with soap and hot water, which killed them. I was traumatized by their deaths, and have never used soap since.
So at least my S7E is safe.
I took it under water to do some photoshoting in waterpool.
after that the volume down button seems stop working. is there way to solve this?
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I took it under water to do some photoshoting in waterpool.
after that the volume down button seems stop working. is there way to solve this?
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Let it dry properly?
Ps. The phone is NOT designed to be operated under water.
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Let it dry properly?
Ps. The phone is NOT designed to be operated under water.
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then why the IP68 is for?
- tapatalked - from my VANTABLACK S7 EDGE
AFAIK, the rating is for submerging the device to up to 1.5m up to half an hour, not to operate the device under water.
MInd, there are no physical buttons to operate by just using the camera shutter if the app has been set-up prior to diving in ...
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then why the IP68 is for?
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@drummerman correctly wrote "NOT to be operated under water", that is clearly different from "water resistant to a maximum depth of 1.5m for up to 30 minutes".
IP68 actually doesn't guarantee that the phone can be also operated under water...
www.samsung.com/au/pdf/IP68.pdf
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Let it dry properly?
Ps. The phone is NOT designed to be operated under water.
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How to dry it properly?
I used the volume up button to take photos under water, it works fine. I started the camera before going under water
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@drummerman correctly wrote "NOT to be operated under water", that is clearly different from "water resistant to a maximum depth of 1.5m for up to 30 minutes".
IP68 actually doesn't guarantee that the phone can be also operated under water...
www.samsung.com/au/pdf/IP68.pdf
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it's fine if it doesn't work under water, but it shouldn't stop working after work under water.
now it is my SD card doesn't get recognized. they really don't deserve the "water proof"
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How to dry it properly?
I used the volume up button to take photos under water, it works fine. I started the camera before going under water
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Not pressing buttons,just let it dry by charging wirelessly to let the phone heat up. If you ruined it, I'm sure you will find out within the next few hours to days. I think you will be fine because others have used the vol(since that's the only button to work under water)
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I took it under water to do some photoshoting in waterpool.
after that the volume down button seems stop working. is there way to solve this?
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Not meant to be operated under water is just hilarious lol u can actually can press the volume buttons under water to take photos. Unfortunately I think your device is defective but like everyone said wait til it dries.
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Not pressing buttons,just let it dry by charging wirelessly to let the phone heat up. If you ruined it, I'm sure you will find out within the next few hours to days. I think you will be fine because others have used the vol(since that's the only button to work under water)
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I don't have wireless charger, can I charge it normally?
Charging works fine though.
Now my phone, Volume button works fine now.
A couple of issues:
SD card doesn't get recognized anymore, no error message.
Multi-task button seems pressing itself.
Condensation inside the front camera.
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I don't have wireless charger, can I charge it normally?
Charging works fine though.
Now my phone, Volume button works fine now.
A couple of issues:
SD card doesn't get recognized anymore, no error message.
Multi-task button seems pressing itself.
Condensation inside the front camera.
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Not good, if charging seems to work...I would get the phone as hot as possible to get rid of moisture or leave sd card open but you have to ge that moisture out before it takes a toll on the inside electronic.
You're an idiot. No where did anyone ever say the phone is water proof. It is water resistant. What that means is that under certain circumstances it can make contact with water and still function after being taken out. That is not the same as using it underwater. You don't deserve a phone this expensive you buffon.
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it's fine if it doesn't work under water, but it shouldn't stop working after work under water.
now it is my SD card doesn't get recognized. they really don't deserve the "water proof"
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Samsung doesn't call it "water proof." Water resistant is the strongest claim you'll see.
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You're an idiot. No where did anyone ever say the phone is water proof. It is water resistant. What that means is that under certain circumstances it can make contact with water and still function after being taken out. That is not the same as using it underwater. You don't deserve a phone this expensive you buffon.
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Not good, if charging seems to work...I would get the phone as hot as possible to get rid of moisture or leave sd card open but you have to ge that moisture out before it takes a toll on the inside electronic.
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thanks. i left it charged for a night.
Now every thing works fine except the SD card is still not recognized.
No prob, and I wonder if you fried the card not sure of which brand you got but I know sandisk at one time made shock/water/temperature proof like my old 64gb ultra was that. I bought a sandisk 200gb I'm thinking has the same
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You're an idiot. No where did anyone ever say the phone is water proof. It is water resistant. What that means is that under certain circumstances it can make contact with water and still function after being taken out. That is not the same as using it underwater. You don't deserve a phone this expensive you buffon.
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While I agree with you that it is not wise to use these devices as underwater cameras, it's not surprising that people do so, when Samsung are doing the exact same thing in their official commercials. Have a look at these examples:
Samsung Malaysia, jumping off a cliff into water with the S7 Edge on a selfie stick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvWslN5DIHM&list=FLQL-jI9F5ORzWPDxiJQjimA&index=1
Samsung Indonesia, going down a water slide landing in a pool with the S7 Edge on a selfie stick:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bNv51boLtk&list=FLQL-jI9F5ORzWPDxiJQjimA&index=2
Samsung New Zealand, using the S7 Edge in the ocean and different wet environments to take photos/videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3hqaTapWSo&list=FLQL-jI9F5ORzWPDxiJQjimA&index=3
At the end of the third one, the text even says: "Now you can capture life in water". The only disclaimer is: "Device requires thorough rinse in fresh water after exposure to salt or chlorinated water". In the other videos it says "Results may vary".
And here's an instruction video from Samsungs support site, showing you how to clean your device under tap water after contact with salt water or other liquids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W78ydsy1mU
(From http://support-us.samsung.com/spsn/main.jsp)
Just to be clear, I DO NOT encourage people to follow these examples as they seem like good ways to ruin an expensive device Be careful, as wear and tear, manufacturing defects or just a drop can affect the water resistance as well.
Although I can also say that I had the Xperia V and Xperia Z3, which both had lower IP ratings than the S7, and I used these under water lots of times with no issues at all. Even after the glass back of the Z3 was shattered from a drop I rinsed it under the tap to clean it about once a week.
@BaconDanny Nice post, never noticed the Videos from Samsung before.
They really do encourage the usage of the device under water.
I myself have only exposed the device to shower water.
And dropped it once in the bath, Am happy to live with the fact it will survive an accident rather than to get used to using the device in water.
A slight disappointment, as one of the purchase reasons was for some nice water park snaps and pool snaps on holiday.
Too expensive to just have a gamble with so many users reporting defected units.
Makes me question if the Water resistance is as tight as they advertise
(A recent review company just tested the Water resistance of the S7 and it failed awaiting official statement from Samsung)
Or there is a number of users who have taken the water proofing to the extreme.
Ill use my device on the principle its water tight, So that water will drip off it.
This will do me enough to use the device in rain or shower or any other types of water like this.
I just wont go submerging it
Another episode of typical consumer bull**** miss advertising to get ahead of the market.
tehdewm said:
You're an idiot. No where did anyone ever say the phone is water proof. It is water resistant. What that means is that under certain circumstances it can make contact with water and still function after being taken out. That is not the same as using it underwater. You don't deserve a phone this expensive you buffon.
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And you're unnecessarily rude. Did writing that make you feel better about yourself?
Anyway, for me the IP rating of this phone is a bonus. It's good to know that the phone should be able to handle my using it in a sudden downpour or if I accidentally drop it down the toilet (not something I've done in over 20 years of owning mobile phones mind). But to deliberately take it underwater, regardless of what confusing messages Samsung are sending out, is simply asking for issues that don't need to be asked for.
Noob_Boob said:
thanks. i left it charged for a night.
Now every thing works fine except the SD card is still not recognized.
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It's probably the SD card that got damaged from the water, not the phone. Replace the card.
hi, dear all
I want to ask a simple but important question, does any one ever put Samsung S8 into water for over one hour test?
how about its waterproof function?
Samsung STATES that the phone is water resistant not water proof. The phone it self can be used under water but for 15 minutes and 1 and a half meter depth. I wouldn't use it underwater for more than 5 minutes. I mean consider yourself underwater for more than 5 minutes holding your phone. Its kind of impossible and if you actually do it you go against Samsung's guideline. Don't risk your phone for silly videos. Not worth it
not for this long because I dont need to test this myself - enough youtube vids for that
every now and then I put it under water or rinse under the water tap to clean my device - no problem so far
FloM94 said:
not for this long because I dont need to test this myself - enough youtube vids for that
every now and then I put it under water or rinse under the water tap to clean my device - no problem so far
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There's always the small chance of water getting through especially as you use the device over few months with some deterioration. Just check your sim tray seal and make sure it's all good. And remember water damage isn't covered under warranty. Enjoy it anyway you like.
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I would not put it under water under any circustance.
Jesus lol why would you do this. It is there in case of an accident, not to try and dunk for something to do. I guess maybe if you have lots of money and don't care about having to buy another one.
tasked28m said:
Samsung STATES that the phone is water resistant not water proof. The phone it self can be used under water but for 15 minutes and 1 and a half meter depth. I wouldn't use it underwater for more than 5 minutes. I mean consider yourself underwater for more than 5 minutes holding your phone. Its kind of impossible and if you actually do it you go against Samsung's guideline. Don't risk your phone for silly videos. Not worth it
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so it means if i drop it into water, i pick it up wihin 15 minutes, then it will not harm to my phone, right?
FloM94 said:
not for this long because I dont need to test this myself - enough youtube vids for that
every now and then I put it under water or rinse under the water tap to clean my device - no problem so far
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haha, it sounds like washing clothes, i just worry when i take photo on a river or sea, if it is drop into water, i hope i took it up and no problem at all
crixley said:
Jesus lol why would you do this. It is there in case of an accident, not to try and dunk for something to do. I guess maybe if you have lots of money and don't care about having to buy another one.
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oh, no no no, just because i think it is too expensive, so i will imagine if bad things happen, how will it be terrible
bushako said:
There's always the small chance of water getting through especially as you use the device over few months with some deterioration. Just check your sim tray seal and make sure it's all good. And remember water damage isn't covered under warranty. Enjoy it anyway you like.
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you mean if i drop my phone not on purpose, the seller will not give warranty?
myefox.it said:
so it means if i drop it into water, i pick it up wihin 15 minutes, then it will not harm to my phone, right?
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I personally used it even at the beach. No harm done. Have it in mind that the 1.5m is pressure related so pressure is the main issue here not depth itself. So be careful on how you position your phone in the water and by all means don't apply in unnecessary pressure on the phone like diving and holding your phone or throwing the phone in the water from a height etc. Its all about usage.
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you mean if i drop my phone not on purpose, the seller will not give warranty?
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Just remember that the phone was tested and certified for 1.5M at 30minutes under a very controlled environment. When you take it out and about in a pool or beach or under a faucet there's many factors that could lead to water entering into sensitive components. The speaker and Mic grill/mesh is still semi permeable and enough pressure from a faucet or even steam can pass through and accumulate.
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bushako said:
Just remember that the phone was tested and certified for 1.5M at 30minutes under a very controlled environment. When you take it out and about in a pool or beach or under a faucet there's many factors that could lead to water entering into sensitive components. The speaker and Mic grill/mesh is still semi permeable and enough pressure from a faucet or even steam can pass through and accumulate.
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oh, thank you for explaination
Also, the water they use it supposedly "pure" water. Most water we have around us has extra chemicals in it...
Most tap waters have chlorine in it and some other chemicals (like flouride) though this is dependant on location.
Sea water has salts in it.
Over time the rubber seal that makes these phones IP68 rated WILL deteriorate. This can be sped up by these additives in the waters around us...
Just a heads up....
ultramag69 said:
Also, the water they use it supposedly "pure" water. Most water we have around us has extra chemicals in it...
Most tap waters have chlorine in it and some other chemicals (like flouride) though this is dependant on location.
Sea water has salts in it.
Over time the rubber seal that makes these phones IP68 rated WILL deteriorate. This can be sped up by these additives in the waters around us...
Just a heads up....
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oh, very good advice