Hi, I know that the P10 Lite is going to get the Emui 8.0, but I was wondering if it will get the huawei face unlock too. Other huawei phones have already gotten it, so will the P10 Lite get it?
ILoveZed said:
Hi, I know that the P10 Lite is going to get the Emui 8.0, but I was wondering if it will get the huawei face unlock too. Other huawei phones have already gotten it, so will the P10 Lite get it?
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We'll find out when someone gets access to the update (beta or release).
I wouldn't recommend anyone actually use it if it does get added. It's horribly insecure to use any kind of face unlock without the hardware to make it secure. Practically anyone would be able to unlock your device with little preparation. Even with a good software implementation, it's still relatively easy to cheat it.
Trixanity said:
We'll find out when someone gets access to the update (beta or release).
I wouldn't recommend anyone actually use it if it does get added. It's horribly insecure to use any kind of face unlock without the hardware to make it secure. Practically anyone would be able to unlock your device with little preparation. Even with a good software implementation, it's still relatively easy to cheat it.
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Hi, it sounds like a cool feature and I wanted to try it. If it comes I think that I will use it, because I really don't care if someone sees my photos and all of that stuff and I don't have friends that will steal my phone, if someone steal my phone he will probably don't even try to hack it. There are really not that much people like this in my city plus that I am not something like a secret agent, so... ?
ILoveZed said:
Hi, it sounds like a cool feature and I wanted to try it. If it comes I think that I will use it, because I really don't care if someone sees my photos and all of that stuff and I don't have friends that will steal my phone, if someone steal my phone he will probably don't even try to hack it. There are really not that much people like this in my city plus that I am not something like a secret agent, so... ?
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Certainly. I just wanted to warn you (or anyone reading it) that it's not actually secure. It can add a tiny deterrent too so it's not as bad as slide to unlock for example.
Some of the problems with it is that without additional sensors it relies on a 2D image to recognize you. Sometimes it can unlock via photos of you or people who look similar. That's why Apple's facial recognition works: multiple sensors that are very difficult to cheat and requires targeted prep work to even succeed hence a random pickpocket won't be able to do anything.
You can add software tricks such as checking for eye blinking to determine if it's a live person and use software algorithms to increase accuracy but these can be cheated which is why I don't think even Google's AI team could develop a safe method that only needs a camera.
Just wanted to explain why the software solution is generally a bad idea if security is important to you.
I think you may get your wish though. I don't see why Huawei wouldn't do it. After Apple did it, it seems like it has become a sought after feature again but these companies don't tell you that it's not the same as what Apple did which is unfortunate for most people if they get a false sense of security.
Finger print is still quite secure though and fast too
Probably not, Lite gets a lot of features cut. A lot of them can be unlocked with build.prop editing, but we'll have to wait to know for sure.
ILoveZed said:
Hi, I know that the P10 Lite is going to get the Emui 8.0, but I was wondering if it will get the huawei face unlock too. Other huawei phones have already gotten it, so will the P10 Lite get it?
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No bro. I have the Huawei p10 lite with the Oreo 8.0.sumn
And It doesn't come with face unlock. Everything else is ok but the camera. They deliberately ****ed up the once almost perfect camera that the phone came with too. I'll advice you root the hell out of that **** bro??
But one positive is that they keep rolling out Google security patches every single month
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No bro. I have the Huawei p10 lite with the Oreo 8.0.sumn
And It doesn't come with face unlock. Everything else is ok but the camera. They deliberately ****ed up the once almost perfect camera that the phone came with too. I'll advice you root the hell out of that **** bro
But one positive is that they keep rolling out Google security patches every single month
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Well the phone is now in my dad's pocket and he doesnt really care about the camera and all of this. Now I am with a S9+ and I have the face unlock feature. I actually use it quite often XD
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Anyone know if someone has managed to look at the X10 Facial Recognition software (and its subsequent auto tagging feature) and manage to get an equal for the rest of us android users. I love the idea of taking a photo and having a software package that recognnises the face and you can then tag it as someone then the software would attempt to auto tag other photos and future photos that you have/taken.
Im surprised no one has really tried to get this for the rest of us since I see it as a great feature of the X10. I know about recognizr but there doesnt seem to be any news on when that is coming out or anything. (also seems to be for developers and not an actual stand alone package)
Any info would be great.
thanks again..
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this would be great! It chouldnt be that hard to port for the good devs here!
+1 That will be amazing...!!
+2 This would be fantastic!
I know its too early but what do you guys this about rooting/custom roms for venice?
BB ceo said (something along the lines) that they will only make an android device if it is secured enough. WOuld that mean a locked bootloader etc? Moreover, it is using a much more secure kernel (http://berryflow.com/2015/09/blackberrys-android-slider-using-hardened-linux-kernel/) and i've read that some beginner's tools (eg enabling developer's options, sideloading apps etc) are blocked.
So what do you guys think? As for me, I believe in this community and i know one way or another, we will be able to install our favourite custom roms/apps on venice. Although I dont know if it would happen 2 days after launch of 2 years after the device reaches the market!
Btw cant wait for the device! I hope blackberry becomes a force again after this phone. I'll buy it the day it's bootloader gets unlocked + root is acheived
Do you have a source on the Priv blocking sideloaded apps? That would be very unfortunate. Locked bootloader is a given but I would still like to be able to install my favorite apks.
I can't see things like developer options/USB debugging etc being outright blocked. That just seems like a great way to alienate the majority of the userbase that a device like this is targeted towards.
This is my main concern... I want this phone, badly. But after having a G4, having to wait for root and still not having any decent roms I won't get the Priv if it doesn't at least get root. It's stock-ish android so I can deal with lack of roms but no root, no sale.
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No idea why anyone here thinks they would do that. Even on BB10 devices installing apks is allowed - and they sure wouldn´t do otherwise on an Android device - that would be crazy.
and yes, bl will be locked and encrypted - root - well that will be something to wait for.
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Bootloader WILL be locked, that's a no brainer. But locking out sideloading, developer options is not possible without TOTALLY killing interest and sales. Blackberry desperately needs Priv to succeed. This is their last chance to avoid becoming the next Nokia. So no, we will have at least sideloading available. Honestly, it doesn't matter if they lock out all these essential features, if they release at least the kernel source and device tree day-and-date with the phone. If you have these, we're better off building a CM 12 (or 13:fingers-crossed ROM for the Priv.
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Do you have a source on the Priv blocking sideloaded apps? That would be very unfortunate. Locked bootloader is a given but I would still like to be able to install my favorite apks.
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sorry I cant give you a source. I read this on reditt or a blog post
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Bootloader WILL be locked, that's a no brainer. But locking out sideloading, developer options is not possible without TOTALLY killing interest and sales. Blackberry desperately needs Priv to succeed. This is their last chance to avoid becoming the next Nokia. So no, we will have at least sideloading available. Honestly, it doesn't matter if they lock out all these essential features, if they release at least the kernel source and device tree day-and-date with the phone. If you have these, we're better off building a CM 12 (or 13:fingers-crossed ROM for the Priv.
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hmm. So do you think it would be possible to unlock the bootloader or it can never be unlocked?
btw slightly offtopic, but is there any phone which has a completely locked bootloader (ie has never been unlocked)?
Welp a leaked pic about the security settings confirms developer options can be enabled, so sideloaded apps is probably a go to. False alarm, peeps!
Zer0.exe said:
Welp a leaked pic about the security settings confirms developer options can be enabled, so sideloaded apps is probably a go to. False alarm, peeps!
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Link?
HyperM3 said:
Link?
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http://n4bb.com/blackberry-priv-64-bit-4k-video-confirmed/
The beautiful glass weave is also shown off. I love it on my Z30.
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http://n4bb.com/blackberry-priv-64-bit-4k-video-confirmed/
The beautiful glass weave is also shown off. I love it on my Z30.
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Thanks for that! I am really looking forward to this device. Im all or nothing on this with my Nexus 6 right now.
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hmm. So do you think it would be possible to unlock the bootloader or it can never be unlocked?
btw slightly offtopic, but is there any phone which has a completely locked bootloader (ie has never been unlocked)?
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there must be some poor phone that didn't get a bootloader unlock, and I firmly believe the Priv is gonna join their ranks as soon as it gets released.
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btw slightly offtopic, but is there any phone which has a completely locked bootloader (ie has never been unlocked)?
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Look at the recent crop of AT&T and Verizon Samsung phones. Their bootloader are locked up tighter then...... Well we will just say their locked down [emoji1]
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http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/...aked-hands-on-photos-plus-official-images.jpg In fact, this image outright confirms that you can sideload/ use developer options.
I wouldn't count on too much. The developer options could have easily been changed and some removed. As BB main selling point is security I expect this device to be one of the harder ones to crack.
As for the bootloader questions. Yes there have been a few that were uncrackable, a dirty hack to by pass has worked on some.
I imagine root is just a matter of time. Unless they lock the system partition, which other manufacturers have done in the past (Looking at you HTC). Even so, it has been done and s-on/off has been cracked before. Alternatives to locking include e-fuses, like in legacy motorola devices.
Bootloaders on the other hand, we're probably going to have to get some concrete evidence. It is most likely locked in my personal opinion.
This is all just speculation. Hopefully Blackberry can find a good balance.
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I imagine root is just a matter of time. Unless they lock the system partition, which other manufacturers have done in the past (Looking at you HTC). Even so, it has been done and s-on/off has been cracked before. Alternatives to locking include e-fuses, like in legacy motorola devices.
Bootloaders on the other hand, we're probably going to have to get some concrete evidence. It is most likely locked in my personal opinion.
This is all just speculation. Hopefully Blackberry can find a good balance.
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The efuze us still used in many devices and if I know blackberry they will have it check against its servers for security. Once it detects root it will most likely disable the device. Or most of the functions that use BB servers. Remember everything is routed through Blackberrys servers in Canada so if their servers go do so does the device.
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Once it detects root it will most likely disable the device. Or most of the functions that use BB servers.
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I would be completely fine with them locking out the BB services when root is discovered. But locking down the hardware would be overstepping their bounds. It's our hardware, not theirs. I know that doesn't mean they couldn't still do it, I just think it would be a jerk move.
It would be like if Microsoft bricked xbox machines that have been modded. They don't, they just ban you from XBox Live if they detect it. I think it should be the same approach.
Yes but even MS has locked the bootloader on Many of their 32 bit machines now. Also I have a link that you might want to read where is passed then modding our devices at all will become illegal.
https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
We might have seen what S8 now is / will be...
Let us discuss here, what is the most compelling feature/reason for you to buy a S8.
Hi Moderator,
can you move this thread to News & Discussion from Q&A section as this has been posted incorrectly and also poll list Bigger screen size into Moderate Screen Size (compare to S8+) and another poll entry with "Soft Key Navigation"
Revealed today.
There really is not enough new to warrant changing my 8 months old S7E.
Bring on the Note 8 or S9.
I just pre-order my S8+ !! Can't wait to get it the 22 april !!
The reasons I WON'T be getting the S8:
Facial Recognition (intrusive)
IRIS Scanner (intrusive)
Fingerprint Scanner (intrusive)
Bixby (Hal, Oblivion)
No IR Blaster (DSLR)
No SPen (Note user NECESSITY)
Enclosed Battery
What are the Pro's, then?
Screen
360
Processor
Camera
Water Resistance
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The reasons I WON'T be getting any phone:
Enclosed Battery
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Good luck getting any future phone with a removable battery.
I am thinking of tracking down another Note Edge.... I feel like I am losing a number of useful features by buying an S8+ as a replacement for my old Note Edge.
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I am thinking of tracking down another Note Edge.... I feel like I am losing a number of useful features by buying an S8+ as a replacement for my old Note Edge.
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Yup, existing Note 4 user here, still going strong. Was a pre-ordered Note 7 customer and now look where we are today...
The live 'unboxing' presentation just made me nauseous. "Partnered with Google" "Working alongside Microsoft"
I see where this is going. I am done. Back to Nature.
Actual Reality > Virtual Reality all. day. long.
I voted the ones more important. But I'll tell you the ones that I absolutely do not find interesting: Bixby and Samsung Connect.
I have my own DDNS service running, so I do not need any cloud service from Samsung to get the status of my home smart devices. Bixby is replicating Google Assistant functionality, so it's more bloat added to the system and more companies with my life's metadata and data. As it wasn't hard enough to block such information leaks.
Dex, IP68, accessores, IRIS scanner and face recognition are cool.
All of the above items, but the S8+ 6.2 Screen is number one!
I am looking forward to Bluetooth 5.0 and better security logon. I hate the fingerprint reader. Whenever I golf, it can't read my fingerprint for a few days. Especially when I re-grip my clubs!!
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I voted the ones more important. But I'll tell you the ones that I absolutely do not find interesting: Bixby and Samsung Connect.
I have my own DDNS service running, so I do not need any cloud service from Samsung to get the status of my home smart devices. Bixby is replicating Google Assistant functionality, so it's more bloat added to the system and more companies with my life's metadata and data. As it wasn't hard enough to block such information leaks.
Dex, IP68, accessores, IRIS scanner and face recognition are cool.
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It's actually the complete opposite of Google Assistant. It's embedded deep into the core functionality of the phone. Assistant is mainly for providing you information, with a few basic control features on top while Bixby allows much control over the device hardware and software via voice commands. It's a new feature that will need time to develop, Samsung wants to give you the option to do everything on your phone without having to touch it. One day you might not have to.
It's not for everyone though, you won't have to use it.
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It's actually the complete opposite of Google Assistant. It's embedded deep into the core functionality of the phone. Assistant is mainly for providing you information, with a few basic control features on top while Bixby allows much control over the device hardware and software via voice commands. It's a new feature that will need time to develop, Samsung wants to give you the option to do everything on your phone without having to touch it. One day you might not have to.
It's not for everyone though, you won't have to use it.
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I don't see how it can be completely the opposite. It has more control over your device to provide information.
the curve screen and the new specks
Highspeed123 said:
It's actually the complete opposite of Google Assistant. It's embedded deep into the core functionality of the phone. Assistant is mainly for providing you information, with a few basic control features on top while Bixby allows much control over the device hardware and software via voice commands. It's a new feature that will need time to develop, Samsung wants to give you the option to do everything on your phone without having to touch it. One day you might not have to.
It's not for everyone though, you won't have to use it.
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Does the world really need another assistant? Fragmentation is already bad enough on Android. So expecting from app developers to implement voice commands for other assistants besides Googles own doesn't seem like a smart move.
not much improvement over the S7/S7Edge.. high price for a little bit extra. Fingerprint on the back, really?
Going for the HTC U (Ocean, SD835) or wait for Note 8
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Does the world really need another assistant? Fragmentation is already bad enough on Android. So expecting from app developers to implement voice commands for other assistants besides Googles own doesn't seem like a smart move.
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I do see your point and you are right about the fragmentation. That's the problem with open source. Companies want to go their own separate ways with it. AI is the next logical step in technology though. In the far future I don't imagine people still tapping away on screens, we will have Robotics and very advanced AI systems providing us with all the information we need.
Googles Assistant is a great bit of software and I use it a fair bit. It just can't integrate deep enough with every device, because of the fragmentation you mention. If we only had Google devices it would become a lot more useful.
I won't have that much need for Bixby but Samsung saw the need in the Mass market, or else they would not have bothered. There will be many that do actually want it. Especially disabled people and for use while driving. Samsung can hook it deep into the core functionality and allow control over every aspect of the device...one day.
Apple can do what they want as they have full control over their software and hardware. Samsung are trying to do the same thing. As they are one of the only Android phone makers that actually make a profit, they might make a success of it. Who knows.
I think we will see some rival OS in the future, they come and go. I can't see Android and iOS lasting forever. Samsung will go their own way one day.
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I don't see how it can be completely the opposite. It has more control over your device to provide information.
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Maybe I exaggerated some what lol. What I meant is that Bixby is Samsung's attempt at allowing hands free control over their phones. It's the start, so I expect it to get better with time and allow for almost total control. It won't just be for information. You will be able to control the camera, edit photos via voice commands, turn things on and off and do most of the things you have to touch the screen for. Handy if you're disabled or unable to hold your phone at the time.
I doubt I'll be using it much but it's still nice to gain new features. There will always be those that do have a use for it. Hopefully those that don't, will have the option to disregard it entirely.
Screen and camera are my main reasons. Plus after about 9 years with HTC phones, since the fuze, it's time for a change. And 64gb internal is a nice bonus.
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if it came whit unlockable bootloader im in
altvolt74 said:
if it came whit unlockable bootloader im in
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That's a bad bet...
Carl Pei has officially sent out a tweet in favour of those wanting the face unlock feature on their OnePlus 3 or OnePlus 3T.
Go check out his tweet and comment on it if you're one of those who wanted the feature:
https://twitter.com/getpeid/status/946428911688323072
In addition to this, make sure you share the tweet on social media and tell your friends with OnePlus devices about it.
MAKE YOURSELVES HEARD
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You already have face unlock in the Google/Smart Unlock settings.
If you want to bypass the swipe UP and load straight to the home screen, you can do that with "AutoInput" from the PlayStore.
I've tried and it's functions just like the 5T.
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You already have face unlock in the Google/Smart Unlock settings.
If you want to bypass the swipe UP and load straight to the home screen, you can do that with "AutoInput" from the PlayStore.
I've tried and it's functions just like the 5T.
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yeah dont ask oneplus to send the face unlock update lets do this method ??
Spectre Nine said:
You already have face unlock in the Google/Smart Unlock settings.
If you want to bypass the swipe UP and load straight to the home screen, you can do that with "AutoInput" from the PlayStore.
I've tried and it's functions just like the 5T.
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I've tried it too, but frankly, IMHO Google Smart lock is utter crap. Heck it unlocks my phone when I cover half of my face with my hands. OnePlus' face unlock is slightly more reliable, but that's not that secure either. I won't ever use the feature. I created this thread for people who've been constantly asking for the feature
I don't believe OnePlus have released their source code, but there's plenty of suggestions that they are one and the same thing with the exception of OnePlus jumping to the home screen on recognition.
I was able to fool the 5T just as I could Google's smart face so I'm not entirely convinced that OnePlus have really done anything new. Both methods are really quick to recognize, in my experience (Not even sure that's a good thing...).
Don't get me wrong, new features would be great but I kinda feel this is an attempt to generate hype again by OnePlus.
Gpu turbo update for huawei p10 now released....this is the first firmware for this phone.
Which version? China?
Sombody know some applications or games for this feature....??
Good news.
Waiting for your installation
Is this still 8.0?
Jannomag said:
Is this still 8.0?
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I dont know, but i think yes it is still 8.0
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I dont know, but i think yes it is still 8.0
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This is the reason for me to throw this garbage away. Without 8.1 I'm not able to listen to BT music in my company's cars and on one of my speakers because of AVRCP 1.6. Google messed it up but fixed it with 8.1 - Huawei won't update the P10 to 8.1 and if they will do an update to 9.0 is also doubtful.
But as they said to the missing unlock code providing:
"We want to provide a better user experience"...well f*ck it Huawei.
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This is the reason for me to throw this garbage away. Without 8.1 I'm not able to listen to BT music in my company's cars and on one of my speakers because of AVRCP 1.6. Google messed it up but fixed it with 8.1 - Huawei won't update the P10 to 8.1 and if they will do an update to 9.0 is also doubtful.
But as they said to the missing unlock code providing:
"We want to provide a better user experience"...well f*ck it Huawei.
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For this reason i sold my P10 yestarday and buy P20
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urbanboymne said:
For this reason i sold my P10 yestarday and buy P20
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To give more money to Huawei so say can produce more **** like this?
The hardware is great but Huawei does a crappy job with their software - no third party integration, no frequent updates, no unlocking, no theming.....
I switched from Apple to get more freedom but what I got an Android system with good features on the one hand but on the other hand completely locked OEM software.
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To give more money to Huawei so say can produce more **** like this?
The hardware is great but Huawei does a crappy job with their software - no third party integration, no frequent updates, no unlocking, no theming.....
I switched from Apple to get more freedom but what I got an Android system with good features on the one hand but on the other hand completely locked OEM software.
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I have update every month and i have themes. Freedom on Huawei devices you cannot find if you dont have unlocking bootloader. On my P10 i have freedom on new P20 freedom goodbay ?
Software is stable and fast, good batery life and simillar but like you say is kinda a locked like Apple IOS. For me now MIUI (Xiaomi) have better software than EMUI (Huawei)
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Xiaomi will be my next phone if OnePlus won't make a smaller device. Themes on EMUI aren't as complete as substratum themes. The only thing I like is that you can set global app themes which are showing in sharing menus, settings and co.
But you can't install a third party DSP on EMUI and Xposed is also a very huge risk.
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I have update every month and i have themes. Freedom on Huawei devices you cannot find if you dont have unlocking bootloader. On my P10 i have freedom on new P20 freedom goodbay
Software is stable and fast, good batery life and simillar but like you say is kinda a locked like Apple IOS. For me now MIUI (Xiaomi) have better software than EMUI (Huawei)
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I have locked bootloader on my P10 and i have themes and monthly updates.
My wife has a P20 pro and has locked bootloade ralso. She has monthly updates and many themes.
Where did you get the info you dont have freedom on your P20?
What do you profit with unlocked bootloader (except custom roms, which are working sometimes and sometimes not)? I had unlocked bootloader , i had root but unrooting and rooting the device every month when a OTA comes or spend time to sideload the OTA and praying that my device don ´t get bricked are over. I am happy with the camera, performance, battery life..so on my side no need to root anymore.
When i want to play i pick up my google pixel XL (and next month pixel 3 ).
Version 379 is now releaded....gpu turbo version
Which game can i play on it? For example?
Hi @freeacer how can I install it from firmware finder?
You must waiting for approve, Huawei servers are under encryption and we must waiting for OTA via system update
Is there any custom rom that contains the gpu turbo path?