Hi everyone
As you all probably know, the P10 Plus has 6GB of RAM.
Having looked at demo's instore, of the Plus model (running Nougat), it only shows 2.95 GB available, from the 6GB installed - with only Phone/Contacts running in the background.
(Personally I'm VERY dissapointed by that):crying:
QUESTION, after the Oreo update, how much RAM is available then?
2.87 with inly xda running. Why is that so important? Tge phone is lightning fast
free RAM is waste of RAM
what poiny of having big RAM when not fully utilized?
Yuaru said:
free RAM is waste of RAM
what poiny of having big RAM when not fully utilized?
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Back in die days of the 1st Galaxy S, I used to run out of RAM quickly.
Eversince then, RAM is important to me, especially in a flagship.
Utilization isn't always an option, hence lots of RAM is important (in my opinion) & is required.
in my opinion as i already use p10 plus and OP3T. both has around 3GB free RAM. Here i attached my device RAM. noted that i have many unclosed apps. i hope it help you. device not even fill sluggish although i open lots of apps
Yuaru said:
in my opinion as i already use p10 plus and OP3T. both has around 3GB free RAM. Here i attached my device RAM. noted that i have many unclosed apps. i hope it help you. device not even fill sluggish although i open lots of apps
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Great, that's what I'm looking for. I'll be uploading the photo's I took in-store to show what I mean.
Apparantly, one can use Huawei's HiSuite Windows program to restore your firmware after an update, in case Oreo doesn't play nicely.
I've attached some photo's to my post, have a look
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We know the Adreno 330 takes a lot of RAM, it says in this video only 2440mb of ram is available.
That doesn't shock me. What shocks me is after the guys is running the video and in the screen shot it says available ram.
Note 2 610mb available :good:
Note 3 270mb available!!!
Link to video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vVjzmk-mw
What do you guys think? Will this be an issue?
My htc one X has more available RAM than that! and its horrible at multitasking :crying:
That's shocking where is all the ram gone looks like little pacman inside the phone has been busy crunching all those megs of ram ouch.
Yep !
Same problem here. I think that we'll need to wait the root for the N3 to clean up trash apps.
No need to worry.
I made a thread about it since I saw a screenshot of CPU-Z stating that were only 14% of free memory.
But I was reassured in the thread I created since I got some details regarding the overall free RAM you can get on boot : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45750359&postcount=19
So you can expect, straight out of the box, an average of 1Gb of Free RAM to play with at your leisure !
There's already a thread on it and all things related to ram was covered so no need to continue this again.
No need to worried. I am the user of Note 3, didn't face any RAM not enough yet since purchase start use yesterday.
I myself just tried out a note 3 in a Samsung Mobile Store and it has about 1Gb of free RAM after clearing the memory. If you let the phone run without doing anything you just loose 200Mb.
Plus Android's VM ans the launcher take 400mb!
Hello! I am thinking about changing my poor old Oneplus One for this beast. But I am worried about the RAM quantity. At this moment I have 3GB RAM and I don't know if 4 will be enough.
Isn't TouchWiz 4GB = 3GB AOSP debloated?
silverkin said:
Hello! I am thinking about changing my poor old Oneplus One for this beast. But I am worried about the RAM quantity. At this moment I have 3GB RAM and I don't know if 4 will be enough.
Isn't TouchWiz 4GB = 3GB AOSP debloated?
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Of course it is enough + you won't keep your phone for more than 2-3 years. TouchWiz got better, but not perfect. My phone still has ~1.5 GB of Ram left. My notebook has 4 GB Ram with fast SSD, don't see any slowdowns on Win 10 Pro.
With the poor ram management 2.5 GB is enough because at no point it uses more than that on our phones. I have apps refreshing when I come back but only half of ram is being used.
in my opinion, 4gb is not enough..... For that kind of high-end phone, samsung should have put 6Go at least into it. I'm talking about ram managment which is pretty bad in android and when you take a look at speedtests (even if this is not reflecting real daily uses) you can see than phone with 6go of ram are able to keep many apps in memory way better than the s8. When you start to run heavy apps or games, the built-in memory killer kills a lots of background app and then when you need to switch back into an other recent app, the phone almost reload it :'( That's frustrating
4GB Ram is enough. More RAM means more apps running in background which means more battery consumption. So 4GB looks a good balance here atleast for S8 which has only 3000 mah battery.
i don't think so excuse me. Of course, more ram maybe means more battery consumption but i prefer that and kill apps runing in background manually to keep battery life rather than the os kills things that i still need :/
When you have 4gb then 4gb isnt enough, when you have 6gb then 6gb isn't enough... its never enough.
4GB is enough for most any smartphone. I also have a OnePlus 3 with 6GB ram and while it can keep more programs running in the background, it never totally accesses the entire 6GB ram. Read this XDA article on RAM: https://www.xda-developers.com/the-ram-conundrum-do-we-really-need-6gb-ram-on-android/
4 is enough, and please after buying it do not ask about why just a little of it is free! The ram is for holding services and apps in background so cpu should not work again to bring them up, if it's filled do not be sad, it's natural.
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in my opinion, 4gb is not enough..... For that kind of high-end phone, samsung should have put 6Go at least into it. I'm talking about ram managment which is pretty bad in android and when you take a look at speedtests (even if this is not reflecting real daily uses) you can see than phone with 6go of ram are able to keep many apps in memory way better than the s8. When you start to run heavy apps or games, the built-in memory killer kills a lots of background app and then when you need to switch back into an other recent app, the phone almost reload it :'( That's frustrating
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Why should you want to keep many apps in memory? The S8 loads them so quick anyway.
Who needs in real day use to keep in memory 5-6 games plus 6-7 apps ? That's what they are doing in speed test , but in every day use it's not need for 6-8 GB ram in this moment. In my opinion for the manufacturer it's simpler to put more ram in a phone instead a better over all optimization.
hey I am considering buying s8 plus
and I would like to know about the ram the free ram after you clean the ram from device assisstant ?
Is this question really the deciding factor in purchasing this phone? Will you not buy it if it has 100mb less free memory than you'd want?
peachpuff said:
Is this question really the deciding factor in purchasing this phone? Will you not buy it if it has 100mb less free memory than you'd want?
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well I just want to study everything
the only thing that keeps me off the s8 plus is the ram as it is very important for future updates and phone's performance over all
if it is for example less tahn 1 gb after freeing ram with almost no junk apps in the background then I won't be getting it however some tests on youtube showed that it is a good multitasker so I guess I am fine now
but it won't harm if you posted that screenshot XD
I had note5 but the screen is broke so I am deciding for the next two years a very tough decision xD no going back
After cleaning :
Available RAM : 1.8GB
System and Apps : 1.6GB
Reserverd : 636MB
Of course, remaining RAM depends of the number of programs installed nd running in background, even if you try to kill them from the assistant. Don't know if these information are relevant or not
I had 1.3g of memory available after clearing everything, but i have 200 apps in my app drawer, maybe a fully wiped phone would show better results.
I have 1 ram
The biggest selling point of the OP5 for me was 8GB of RAM.
I know everyone says we'll never use that much, but according to the Memory settings, my average use is 4.7GB, and when I check running services in the dev options, my free RAM has been as low as 2.7GB free (using 5+ GB)
This tells me, for my uses (many tabs, lots of video calls and multitasking while on calls), 6GB is appropriate today, and 8GB future proofs me. for 1-2years.
I don't think 4GB is sufficient for a flagship Android phone, and that's why I didn't even consider phones like the Essential phone.
With about 9 apps open right now, I've used up 4.5 GB. Not too bad I suppose!
Hey guys,
I wanted to ask if there is a benefit in having 8gb of ram instead of 6? Is it even possible to use that much on a phone?
All I've read till now was that developers could fill it with something but I can't think of anything. So I'm just asking out of curiosity.
I don't want a comparison of the 6 and 8 gig RAM versions of the OP5. It's really just about the 8gigs of RAM.
Thanks in advance
User422 said:
Hey guys,
I wanted to ask if there is a benefit in having 8gb of ram instead of 6? Is it even possible to use that much on a phone?
All I've read till now was that developers could fill it with something but I can't think of anything. So I'm just asking out of curiosity.
I don't want a comparison of the 6 and 8 gig RAM versions of the OP5. It's really just about the 8gigs of RAM.
Thanks in advance
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OP5 is so far one of the fastest phone you can ever get. You can't make it lag. I hope I answer even a slight part of your question.
I don't think the phone being fast is related to the amount of RAM.
Apps will eventually start consuming more resources and 8GB RAM will become a necessity in the future.
You can survive with 2 too, but 4 seems to be the standard now; next year 6 and in about 2-3 years 8.
Just depends on how well the phone can manage its own memory. But by default some stuff like mobile games take a lot of ram. Upwards to 400-600mbs of ram for just one app. Maybe just cut down on those or just accept that your device cannot keep everything in memory. Its ok to reload apps that are insanely big.
Yousvel said:
OP5 is so far one of the fastest phone you can ever get. You can't make it lag. I hope I answer even a slight part of your question.
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Like I had already mentioned. It wasn't about the phone.
I do have an OP5 myself ^^
It was really just about the huge amount of RAM
But thanks for your answer anyway ^^
Pwnycorn said:
I don't think the phone being fast is related to the amount of RAM.
Apps will eventually start consuming more resources and 8GB RAM will become a necessity in the future.
You can survive with 2 too, but 4 seems to be the standard now; next year 6 and in about 2-3 years 8.
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I've heard that there are minimal difference between the two versions of the phone.
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I've heard that there are minimal difference between the two versions of the phone.
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RAM is the only difference. Multitasking is better on the 8GB model though.
you phone will suffer from low cpu speed before ''needing'' 8gb of ram for 1 single operation.
Having multiple app running in the background makes the experience more fun, but the phone loads app fast enough anyway.
In fact, I'm using greenify, so no need of 8gb.
And a lot of cell phone user will change their phone before it will come slow, or really need 8gb. see pixel2 thread, a lot of people thinking about changing to pixel, what a waste...
User422 said:
Like I had already mentioned. It wasn't about the phone.
I do have an OP5 myself ^^
It was really just about the huge amount of RAM
But thanks for your answer anyway ^^
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more RAM = less loading.
this saves you time because the app stays loaded in RAM (no processing). this saves battery because the processor isn't having to work every time you open it. with 8GB, i almost never close apps.
It is easy to say that the more RAM you have, more the OS will use it, and this will make it more dynamic, therefore faster. But I think this is not perceptible for the user.
I have a 8 GB version and the device gets 5GB RAM to boot up... this would not happen in a 4GB RAM of course but this extra RAM usage do not reflect to more speed in a way you can see it...
The RAM management is more affected actually by the SO itself. I never use more than 7.5 GB RAM but my games never stay in memory for more than a day. I think OOS shuts them down after 24 hours not being used.....
This is a much more technical perception of how the device handle 8GB. I think its more a future proof quality then a advantage in todays processing.