hey I am considering buying s8 plus
and I would like to know about the ram the free ram after you clean the ram from device assisstant ?
Is this question really the deciding factor in purchasing this phone? Will you not buy it if it has 100mb less free memory than you'd want?
peachpuff said:
Is this question really the deciding factor in purchasing this phone? Will you not buy it if it has 100mb less free memory than you'd want?
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well I just want to study everything
the only thing that keeps me off the s8 plus is the ram as it is very important for future updates and phone's performance over all
if it is for example less tahn 1 gb after freeing ram with almost no junk apps in the background then I won't be getting it however some tests on youtube showed that it is a good multitasker so I guess I am fine now
but it won't harm if you posted that screenshot XD
I had note5 but the screen is broke so I am deciding for the next two years a very tough decision xD no going back
After cleaning :
Available RAM : 1.8GB
System and Apps : 1.6GB
Reserverd : 636MB
Of course, remaining RAM depends of the number of programs installed nd running in background, even if you try to kill them from the assistant. Don't know if these information are relevant or not
I had 1.3g of memory available after clearing everything, but i have 200 apps in my app drawer, maybe a fully wiped phone would show better results.
I have 1 ram
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We know the Adreno 330 takes a lot of RAM, it says in this video only 2440mb of ram is available.
That doesn't shock me. What shocks me is after the guys is running the video and in the screen shot it says available ram.
Note 2 610mb available :good:
Note 3 270mb available!!!
Link to video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9vVjzmk-mw
What do you guys think? Will this be an issue?
My htc one X has more available RAM than that! and its horrible at multitasking :crying:
That's shocking where is all the ram gone looks like little pacman inside the phone has been busy crunching all those megs of ram ouch.
Yep !
Same problem here. I think that we'll need to wait the root for the N3 to clean up trash apps.
No need to worry.
I made a thread about it since I saw a screenshot of CPU-Z stating that were only 14% of free memory.
But I was reassured in the thread I created since I got some details regarding the overall free RAM you can get on boot : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45750359&postcount=19
So you can expect, straight out of the box, an average of 1Gb of Free RAM to play with at your leisure !
There's already a thread on it and all things related to ram was covered so no need to continue this again.
No need to worried. I am the user of Note 3, didn't face any RAM not enough yet since purchase start use yesterday.
I myself just tried out a note 3 in a Samsung Mobile Store and it has about 1Gb of free RAM after clearing the memory. If you let the phone run without doing anything you just loose 200Mb.
Plus Android's VM ans the launcher take 400mb!
Hello ,i have g pad v500 ..I want ask about ram. Factory give this tablet 2mb ram. When i go settings i see free memory about 950mb ram..How can free some memory? Sorry for my english is not good..
thanks
I don't understand your question.
Using ram is good, because it's used, and free ram is doing nothing.
If you go to the task manager settings you can set "auto clear Ram" to every hour.
Manually closing apps clears ram too.
But the whole point of having 2 Gb of ram is hat you can have more apps running at the same time.
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I don't understand your question.
Using ram is good, because it's used, and free ram is doing nothing.
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I think he's wondering why despite having 2gb of RAM, even if you have just turned on your tablet you find just 950 mb of free ram instead of 1,5 / 2 Gb.
I'm surprised too seeing a huge ram necessity just for the os..
mightmagic said:
Hello ,i have g pad v500 ..I want ask about ram. Factory give this tablet 2mb ram. When i go settings i see free memory about 950mb ram..How can free some memory? Sorry for my english is not good..
thanks
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This is caused mainly by the useless bloatware that manufacturers have preinstalled. Use an app like titanium backup or greenify to freeze/hibernate the apps that you dont need or install a custom rom which comes debloated to free up your device's ram.
I was always told Unused Ram is Wasted Ram
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I was always told Unused Ram is Wasted Ram
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My samsung galaxy tab 2 had almost full ram when i bought it because of the ridiculous touchwiz and so many useless programs that i never had intended to use. As a result when i was trying to play a game the tablet was lagging as hell. I searched a bit and found about rooting and installing custom roms, i installed then cyanogen mod and i had like 250mb occupied out of 900mb. Needless to say that the tablet was like 100 times faster than its stock firmware. So the moto unused ram is wasted ram isnt quite true because you might need that extra memory (for example if you play heavy games like modern combat 4 or gta). If you dont have enough free memory the system will try to disable other applications and android isnt known for its task management capabilities in contrary to ios which is supposed to handle applications and memory better(i dont have a personal experience about this though as i dont own an apple device). Lg g pad has a lot of memory and i ve never reached its memory to its full limit even on stock fw.
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My samsung galaxy tab 2 had almost full ram when i bought it because of the ridiculous touchwiz and so many useless programs that i never had intended to use. As a result when i was trying to play a game the tablet was lagging as hell. I searched a bit and found about rooting and installing custom roms, i installed then cyanogen mod and i had like 250mb occupied out of 900mb. Needless to say that the tablet was like 100 times faster than its stock firmware. So the moto unused ram is wasted ram isnt quite true because you might need that extra memory (for example if you play heavy games like modern combat 4 or gta). If you dont have enough free memory the system will try to disable other applications and android isnt known for its task management capabilities in contrary to ios which is supposed to handle applications and memory better(i dont have a personal experience about this though as i dont own an apple device). Lg g pad has a lot of memory and i ve never reached its memory to its full limit even on stock fw.
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Disable other application. You'll want to slip a microSD card into a slot on the side that's covered by a little door. The G Pad supports cards up to 64GB.
http://bgr.com/2015/04/28/galaxy-s6-vs-iphone-6-vs-htc-one-m9-comparison-speed-test/
Watch until the end!
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TouchWiz eats too much RAM requiring each apps to reload. Check out the Free RAM available on the S6 threads and you'll see that it barely has free RAM.
according to this, i should have gotten a iphone 6 (something that falls in between). Guess I'll have to chunk this M9 DevEd in the garbage and learn to like IOS ?
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TouchWiz eats too much RAM requiring each apps to reload. Check out the Free RAM available on the S6 threads and you'll see that it barely has free RAM.
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Free ram is wasted ram. I highly doubt touchwiz is using so much memory it's causing other apps to be killed. It's more likely that Samsung got a little happy with killing apps in the background trying to save battery.
Probably will be fixed in a update...
Hoping HTC is able to optimize for the s810 as well, as it seems very poorly optimized atm
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Free ram is wasted ram. I highly doubt touchwiz is using so much memory it's causing other apps to be killed. It's more likely that Samsung got a little happy with killing apps in the background trying to save battery.
Probably will be fixed in a update...
Hoping HTC is able to optimize for the s810 as well, as it seems very poorly optimized atm
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Well, if the RAM is taken over by just the UI and System, it's a wasted RAM. How come M9 usually has over 1 GB of Free RAM yet it can load all of the apps that are cached in RAM while S6 has about 200 MB Free yet it reloads apps EVEN IF those are supposed to be CACHED. I suspect a memory bloat where there's little RAM available for APPS to cache properly.
all that this video show is the following:
- persistent software issues on the Samsungs like hangs and needless killing apps out of RAM
- the s810 / DDR4 / 3GB combo on the M9 quality software really shines when it comes to multitasking
- Apple's high IPC from just two cores should be a big a lesson to anyone building Android SoCs
Hello! I am thinking about changing my poor old Oneplus One for this beast. But I am worried about the RAM quantity. At this moment I have 3GB RAM and I don't know if 4 will be enough.
Isn't TouchWiz 4GB = 3GB AOSP debloated?
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Hello! I am thinking about changing my poor old Oneplus One for this beast. But I am worried about the RAM quantity. At this moment I have 3GB RAM and I don't know if 4 will be enough.
Isn't TouchWiz 4GB = 3GB AOSP debloated?
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Of course it is enough + you won't keep your phone for more than 2-3 years. TouchWiz got better, but not perfect. My phone still has ~1.5 GB of Ram left. My notebook has 4 GB Ram with fast SSD, don't see any slowdowns on Win 10 Pro.
With the poor ram management 2.5 GB is enough because at no point it uses more than that on our phones. I have apps refreshing when I come back but only half of ram is being used.
in my opinion, 4gb is not enough..... For that kind of high-end phone, samsung should have put 6Go at least into it. I'm talking about ram managment which is pretty bad in android and when you take a look at speedtests (even if this is not reflecting real daily uses) you can see than phone with 6go of ram are able to keep many apps in memory way better than the s8. When you start to run heavy apps or games, the built-in memory killer kills a lots of background app and then when you need to switch back into an other recent app, the phone almost reload it :'( That's frustrating
4GB Ram is enough. More RAM means more apps running in background which means more battery consumption. So 4GB looks a good balance here atleast for S8 which has only 3000 mah battery.
i don't think so excuse me. Of course, more ram maybe means more battery consumption but i prefer that and kill apps runing in background manually to keep battery life rather than the os kills things that i still need :/
When you have 4gb then 4gb isnt enough, when you have 6gb then 6gb isn't enough... its never enough.
4GB is enough for most any smartphone. I also have a OnePlus 3 with 6GB ram and while it can keep more programs running in the background, it never totally accesses the entire 6GB ram. Read this XDA article on RAM: https://www.xda-developers.com/the-ram-conundrum-do-we-really-need-6gb-ram-on-android/
4 is enough, and please after buying it do not ask about why just a little of it is free! The ram is for holding services and apps in background so cpu should not work again to bring them up, if it's filled do not be sad, it's natural.
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in my opinion, 4gb is not enough..... For that kind of high-end phone, samsung should have put 6Go at least into it. I'm talking about ram managment which is pretty bad in android and when you take a look at speedtests (even if this is not reflecting real daily uses) you can see than phone with 6go of ram are able to keep many apps in memory way better than the s8. When you start to run heavy apps or games, the built-in memory killer kills a lots of background app and then when you need to switch back into an other recent app, the phone almost reload it :'( That's frustrating
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Why should you want to keep many apps in memory? The S8 loads them so quick anyway.
Who needs in real day use to keep in memory 5-6 games plus 6-7 apps ? That's what they are doing in speed test , but in every day use it's not need for 6-8 GB ram in this moment. In my opinion for the manufacturer it's simpler to put more ram in a phone instead a better over all optimization.
Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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This is a good question. I notice the same thing on my 12gb model
i was tempted by the 12gb, but having to wait two days for it to ship kept me in the 512gb model personally, never been a patient one, never will be, 8gb is already overkill for a phone anyway, heck 12gb is 4gb short of what an actual gaming PC (the kind that play actual games not bloatware) should be minimum specced to, you're not gonna need that much power on a phone and if you do you're using it for the wrong things.
i wouldn't have minded a 1tb 8gb model though, i had to severely cut down my music library for the moto z force when i originally got that.
Well I just saw 4.4 GB RAM left only. I do wonder if there is a hard limiter after which preloaded apps are killed.
Regarding the debate of an overkill, I'm old enough to remember a time when the Intel 586 CPUs were promised to have "infinite calculating capacity"
The only reason I bought this model is that the s7 model I had lasted enough (2.5 years) to become too slow.
I'm hoping this device will last longer.
In any case does anyone know what the "standard limit" of allowed process is on this model and how I can force all RAM to be made available?
stop asking shovelware developers to script-kiddie in 64 bit, there's no kind way to say it.
ystasino said:
Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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That option is to limit apps, not allow more.
Phone uses LMK values probably coded in kernel and its not related to option you are seeing in dev options.
Also, 6gb ram used is alot, what more do you want to keep in memory, are your apps reloading or what?
I like my browser to have many pages preloaded (640 MB) , several texting apps, email, forums, videochatting, etc. XDA app takes 248 MB. Right now apps and system are using 7.2 GB of RAM...
This really is a mobile computer for personal use and that's why I bought it. I like to have all apps and pages preloaded and use them as a reminder of what I need to stay in touch with.
Right now everything loads fine, but in the future apps will become heavier and I'm hoping that Samsung isn't limiting that.
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I like my browser to have many pages preloaded (640 MB) , several texting apps, email, forums, videochatting, etc. XDA app takes 248 MB. Right now apps and system are using 7.2 GB of RAM...
This really is a mobile computer for personal use and that's why I bought it. I like to have all apps and pages preloaded and use them as a reminder of what I need to stay in touch with.
Right now everything loads fine, but in the future apps will become heavier and I'm hoping that Samsung isn't limiting that.
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U can't know and also you can't control it anyways, we can just hope Samsung didn't set memory killer too aggressive.
Also you should turn off auto memory optimisation in device care menu as it kills apps daily.
I did the above and can report that I'm at 3.3 GB of free ram. I haven't restarted in 4 days or killed any apps.
So it's not an issue, Samsung does allow the system to use the available RAM.
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Developer options allow one to limit the number of background apps that use RAM. But they allow 0-4 apps or the "standard" option.
For those of us who have the 12GB RAM version, is there a way to keep more apps in memory?
I keep having 5.6 GB RAM available and I want to use it...
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You're not supposed to be touching that option and no, your device isn't killing your apps after 4 of them are running, you can keep as many as you want in background until you run out of memory.