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Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P20 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

P20 Pro vs Pixel 2 XL...
I have both devices currently and from my very brief short time with the P20 pro , the pictures taken with it don't even come close to the quality you can get from the Pixel 2 XL.
Please tell me its just a case of faulty software, else I think I may be taking this phone back sadly.
Problems so far
Images lack any real detail and are very soft
HDR mode still hidden
Night Mode whilst great is still a 4 sec picture.. (but still soft ) - (The advantage you get from those 4 secs does not seem worth it from my quick test - but i'll keep testing)
Camera UI is rubbish... (subjective i know)
But it will be interesting to know if anyone else as similar experiences , as most reviewers online appear to suggest that this is the best camera phone ever!
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Soft images.

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Have taken a few shots with the camera, the modes are the same pretty much as in the Mate 10 Pro so you have fully manual "Pro Mode" which shoots RAW plus a range of features including;
HDR
Light Painting
Monochrome
Aperture
Portrait
Night Shot
Panorama
The beauty mode is now a lot less aggressive on 0 setting and in portrait mode you can get some amazing detail and shallow depth of field.
The overall star is night shot which takes a 3 second long exposure which is fully stabilized and its like a super HDR setting which blows away the Mate 10 Pro I had before. Even using zoom (pinch to zoom on screen is enabled) the level of detail and depth is like using a dedicated camera.
I think with photography and equipment there is a large element of variation in the skill of the reviewers and unless you have both cameras in identical circumstances which is nigh on impossible, its difficult to be fair to compare. A lot of reviews I have seen go on about the AI not being perfect, which it isn't yet on any phone but its nice that this technology is developing to allow better shots for average Joe.
I normally use a full frame Sony Alpha and I can honestly say so far the image quality I am getting on the P20 Pro is the best of any phone I have used.
I cant comment on the XL but I have owned the Mate 10 Pro, Note 8, S8+ and IPhone 7 all recently and although these are all good phones with great cameras the shots I have got out of the P20 Pro so far have impressed me a lot more.
As a side note personally I would never use any of the AI modes except Night Shot, I never use the AI enabled render modes which is where many of the reviewers have had problems because its not a perfected science yet.

This is a good phone to benchmark the camera chops of the reviewer, those who can actually do anything more than point n shoot photos are taking amazing shots with this phone. I'm stunned how good a lot of the shots are.

It's the zoom that really makes this phone. You can extract detail from shots that no other phone (especially the pixel 2) could remotely pull off. You can frame a subject at 5x zoom and get a detailed shot whereas the pixel 2 would be a blurry mess.
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Disappointing
I'm also comparing shot for shot with the Pixel 2 XL and finding so far, apart from zoom, the P20 Pro is inferior to the Pixel 2. So far using only auto mode on both phones the Pixel shots are visibly superior, picking out more detail and producing better low light pictures. The only exception is the 5x zoom which is absolutely phenomenal on the P20. I've yet to try any night shots because it's been pretty much constant rain since the phone arrived. Considering the hype, I'm really disappointed in it. I know if I pull out the Pixel and grab a shot it's going to be good 99% of the time. I don't want to have to **** around with the settings every time I want to take a photo. Also the front facing camera is a joke. Even with beauty mode turned off, the image lacks detail and is ridiculously overexposed. The AI isn't particularly useful either - tried taking a photo of my dog in the garden and the AI went nuts flicking between the dog and greenery settings. There's a good camera in this phone but the Huawei processing is smothering it.

Huawei camera always more suitable for professional or those who love to play with settings. As a point and shoot I do see Samsung and pixel are capable of shooting better photos. But with a superior hardware I do believe there is nothing Huawei can't fix with a software update.

Tiger33 said:
P20 Pro vs Pixel 2 XL...
I have both devices currently and from my very brief short time with the P20 pro , the pictures taken with it don't even come close to the quality you can get from the Pixel 2 XL.
Please tell me its just a case of faulty software, else I think I may be taking this phone back sadly.
Problems so far
Images lack any real detail and are very soft
HDR mode still hidden
Night Mode whilst great is still a 4 sec picture.. (but still soft ) - (The advantage you get from those 4 secs does not seem worth it from my quick test - but i'll keep testing)
Camera UI is rubbish... (subjective i know)
But it will be interesting to know if anyone else as similar experiences , as most reviewers online appear to suggest that this is the best camera phone ever!
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In P20 pro u use 40mp or 10mp supersampling resolution? Better stick to 10mp dude, and did it has an option to turn off the AI scene recognition? If have, turn it off.
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German review but you can still look at the pictures. No night mode sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWXKp817fJI

The biggest problem I'm having is the wildly variable greens. Sometimes it will go nuts and make grass look like some kind of weird neon lit alien landscape then in the next shot, perfect. This happens with the AI on and off. Everything else is pretty close to natural, just doesn't seem able to handle grass.

Hello guys.. p20 pro camera is doing well but no perfect!! Im sure that will be an update as fast as possible... but the realy problem isnt the 40 mp camera but the selfie camera witch is 24mp and the quality is very low and some times selfi captures seems discolored!!
anyone else noticed that discolored?

Bad quality for the hardware that's inside. Terribly overprocessed images that looks very fake most of the time. Only way to bypass that is to shot in 40mp but that introduces heavy purple fringe. Someone at Huawei should get fired. Both my iPhone X and LG V10 gives me better images.

huawei and their marketing gimmicks and paid reviewers

dannejanne said:
Bad quality for the hardware that's inside. Terribly overprocessed images that looks very fake most of the time. Only way to bypass that is to shot in 40mp but that introduces heavy purple fringe. Someone at Huawei should get fired. Both my iPhone X and LG V10 gives me better images.
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Not so bad I think. But I agree often color are overexposed, and I close the Ai suggestion to have better result especially in greenery

justyourimage said:
Well yes.
It's surprising that Huawei actually managed to load a Smartphone full of a Camera Sensor with 1/1.7" size 1.6 Aperature, OIS on all three cameras and still doesn't manage to make a simple non-progressed picture under daylight conditions that looks like a $50 phone from 2008. Most $100 China-Smartphones from 2017 do manage to make better-looking pictures.
I don't know who in their Software-Devision took drugs to actually **** up that bad but yes - it's purely software releated.
Most likey due to both cameras adding the picture in overlay mode even while shooting with the main-sensor without any after-processing would be more then plenty with that capable hardware.
Actually maybe that Aperature is the only drawback I'm seeing (lens-flare) where the S9+ has a hand over it but aside from that ...
And ****ing the Software so much up is actually a bad thing. I'd recommend anyone to wait a few months to see if they even mange to fix it - unless you're shooting RAW only in Manual Mode.
Maybe if we're lucky we'll see a ported Google Camera with HDR+ on it ...
Sight, that thing is a beast tamed with the worst software I've seen in a long time. Kinda reminding me of the LG when it was going back to down ...
If I were Huawei I'd fire my Software devision and pay Google to actually develop a working Software for them.
Manual Mode or not, there is a limit how stupidly broken you can make an Auto-Mode ... and calling that thing AI-Powered is even more funny.
Just look at the daylight samples of DXoMark ... it should have never gotten such high scores at all at its current stage (that's Huawei for you ...)
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Most reviews i've read suggest AI mode is the best overall option
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German review but you can still look at the pictures. No night mode sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWXKp817fJI
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That guy had me at *wearing a Stratovarius t-shirt* lol

I recently bought a P20 and as a previous P10 owner, the front 24mp camera of the P20 is AWFUL. I will NOT sugar coat it but this thing has a very very bad front camera. It looks like an upscaled 5MP camera. Images are soft and overexposed. Dynamic range is pretty bad! Huawei just wanted to put a higher resolution since most China OEMs have 24MP cameras these days.
The 8mp f/1.9 front camera of the P10 is much clearer, sharper in ALL lighting conditions. I miss the feature wherein the front camera field of view will change if you are taking a group shot.
Youtube reviewers are too scared to criticize the front camera solely because Huawei have been sponsoring their flights and accommodation on their annual P series events.

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ijuanp03 said:
I recently bought a P20 and as a previous P10 owner, the front 24mp camera of the P20 is AWFUL. I will NOT sugar coat it but this thing has a very very bad front camera. It looks like an upscaled 5MP camera. Images are soft and overexposed. Dynamic range is pretty bad! Huawei just wanted to put a higher resolution since most China OEMs have 24MP cameras these days.
The 8mp f/1.9 front camera of the P10 is much clearer, sharper in ALL lighting conditions. I miss the feature wherein the front camera field of view will change if you are taking a group shot.
Youtube reviewers are too scared to criticize the front camera solely because Huawei have been sponsoring their flights and accommodation on their annual P series events.
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hope for an update!!!

cornel.atomei said:
Here is a video review for P20 PRO vs P20 I made on my channel. The Pro is king, but the regular p20 is not that far behind.
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King of what?
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Bromsoket said:
King of what?
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Of Huawei cameras. Not all smartphone cameras, i still think the pixel 2 can overtake it in pretty much al scenarios...

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Honor 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Photo quality is great.... 24+16mp is providing excellent details...

AI is showing its presence when taking photos . It is helping in having sharp detail and exposure.

Photos are mostly nicely detailed but tend to be overexposed, oversaturated and oversharpened (despite AI mode being off) especially when it's sunny out. Details are lost due to over-exposure. Photos in low-light unfortunately do not perform well (images are not so sharp and most details are lost). But for quick snapshots this phone should be suffice.

sentientbeing said:
Photos are mostly nicely detailed but tend to be overexposed, oversaturated and oversharpened (despite AI mode being off) especially when it's sunny out. Details are lost due to over-exposure. Photos in low-light unfortunately do not perform well (images are not so sharp and most details are lost). But for quick snapshots this phone should be suffice.
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I agree with that. Also I recomend to change screen profile from vivid to normal because photos are oversaturated and kind of ugly at phone. I first thought it was due to AI. Once I saw the photos in my sRGB calibrated monitor, they were actually nice. But still oversharpened. It was same with my Huawei P9.

hassanjavaid8181 said:
Photo quality is great.... 24+16mp is providing excellent details...
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equipped with AIS makes better performance in the night shooting . isn't it ?
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miststudent2011 said:
AI is showing its presence when taking photos . It is helping in having sharp detail and exposure.
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just wondering how AI technology works when taking photos ?
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sentientbeing said:
Photos are mostly nicely detailed but tend to be overexposed, oversaturated and oversharpened (despite AI mode being off) especially when it's sunny out. Details are lost due to over-exposure. Photos in low-light unfortunately do not perform well (images are not so sharp and most details are lost). But for quick snapshots this phone should be suffice.
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why does quick snapshots perform well ?

Drunk Piano said:
why does quick snapshots perform well ?
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By 'quick snapshots' I meant the quality is good enough for me as photos to share with friends/family or just to keep it for myself. Doesn't mean the quality is better.

Drunk Piano said:
just wondering how AI technology works when taking photos ?
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Colors are being in details when take at normal light and low light conditions hence it gives good pictures.

Bad photo quality
Hello all,
I just bought a honor 10, but front camera pictures are rally blurry, they aren't sharpen at all... It looks like I'm made of plastic.
Does anyone have this problem?

Londrake said:
Hello all,
I just bought a honor 10, but front camera pictures are rally blurry, they aren't sharpen at all... It looks like I'm made of plastic.
Does anyone have this problem?
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Try putting beauty level to 0 and disabling bokeh. There's also another "beauty" mode in settings, disable that as well if it's on, this one should be off by default though. Or just try taking photos with the usual photo mode, not portrait mode which is automatically turned on when changing to front camera. I myself find most photos from front camera bad, especially lack of manual focus is frustrating and annoying.

Ai only oversaturates the colors IMHO.

Pro mode by night is OK but auto is crap.

vampirian said:
Pro mode by night is OK but auto is crap.
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Thanks for sharing. Is it the first picture post in this thread?;）

I will post more from the trip i had in Greece. I wanted to mention that P9 has better quality pictures especially with pro mode but again if you play around with honor 10 you will get nice pictures. Now all the pics i uploaded are auto mode and AI activated.

Few of my photos. You can judge the quality and my photography skills

MrThomasAnderson said:
Few of my photos. You can judge the quality and my photography skills
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They look really nice thank you for sharing!

camera
camera is very good and photo is very clear,i like this style photo of camera

Anyone with kids have any experience with low light/indoor pics of their kids with the Honor 10? I've got 3 little menaces at home and most of my snaps are usually of them, inside. I need my phone to be able to handle that...
I've got an Honor 8 at the moment and it does quite well. I'm hoping this phone will be better than that. Anyone had any experience with both??
Cheers!

horsetastic said:
Anyone with kids have any experience with low light/indoor pics of their kids with the Mi 8? I've got 3 little menaces at home and most of my snaps are usually of them, inside. I need my phone to be able to handle that...
I've got an Honor 8 at the moment and it does quite well. I'm hoping this phone will be better than that. Anyone had any experience with both??
Cheers!
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Hi, this is Honor 10 forum, not Mi 8 one.

DashDashCZ said:
Hi, this is Honor 10 forum, not Mi 8 one.
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AHH crap. Yes I knew that. Forgot to edit the post to suit. I'm asking the same question of about 3 phones.
The question still stands. How does this phone do?

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy S10's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
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S10 has f/1.5 aperture for rear camera and f/1.7 for selfie camera. It means alot for low light photography.

I'm pre ordering the S10 + and after seeing online samples, have little hopes it will.do any better than my note 9
Same orange tint and lag that blurs pics in artificial light is already apparent.
I use gcam for all indoor shots and hope it works on the S10 too....unless they've done some software update on release to fix it.

Ok, had a good 30 mins hands on with S10plus and shutter lag is gone.... orange tint still remains though

I'm hopeful low light photos will match my S9. I have taken some perfect very low light shots with it and I'm hoping the S10 will do the same.

ZayaanAhyaan said:
Ok, had a good 30 mins hands on with S10plus and shutter lag is gone.... orange tint still remains though
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What do you mean by "orange tint"?

Outbreak444 said:
What do you mean by "orange tint"?
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Same here, I've never seen an orange tint.

Tel864 said:
Same here, I've never seen an orange tint.
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Me neither...

looking forward to better cam
I am really looking forward to a better camera and hope that this camera can capture red and pinks. I am currently upgrading from a s4 that really had issues with colors.

Not too shabby ...

its good, but not mate 20 pro good.
only device i can compare with right now since i have both

It's all software, not sure why they can't make it perfect. Google has been using pretty much the same camera since Pixel 1 or even Nexus 6p and it's still one of the best because of software processing

It is still behind Google Pixel.

kolyan said:
It's all software, not sure why they can't make it perfect. Google has been using pretty much the same camera since Pixel 1 or even Nexus 6p and it's still one of the best because of software processing
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Totally true. If Google can make that software then can Samsung. Samsung has the capability and resources of doing research. I am coming from pixel 3 and low light performance of s10 is way behind than pixel. Even the day light shots look over exposed. Not sure if they did take this decision deliberately or their QA department is potato.
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Gcam on my lgv40 is 1,000 better than this phone. Wide angle shots are almost unusable on this phone

Compared low light against S9+ and I noticed a difference in exposure time and iso.
S9 has lower iso but more exposure time and a bit more noise reduction.
S10 on the other hand chooses for higher iso and less exposure.
Both have advantages and disadvantages and depends on preferences. For static objects S9 look better but for moving objects S10 is better.
If you can hold your phone steady, S9 can make great photos with low light. But I think S10 will be better for majority of people.
S10 is now more like Apple's approach for taking photos. There's a little more noise but also less blur.
Night mode on S10 is awful btw. They really should make this better.

A quick snap outside my gym's window

Very low light photo... Not bad at all... Just point and shoot

staggering amount of noise, sadly nothing is improved on the same S9+ lens

Sorry
With sam
Dont expect great camera at night
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Go for HUAWEI or pixel only for Amazing night shots

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG V50 ThinQ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

The cameras are good, generally. Well rounded, and well color balanced between lenses. The colors seem more natural or true. Pictures aren't as brightly colored saturated as some other devices.
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The focal distance of the wide angle lens, for a "macro" shot is about 7 or 8 centimeters, which at that distance provides very clear, roughly 2x magnified images. It works quite well, and I am very pleased with this performance.

Does the camera take quick pictures? I had the V30 before and a common problem which they had was that there was a lag between pressing the shutter button and the picture being taken. This would mean that I would frequently miss photos of my kids, creating a blurred picture. I have read this was mixture of the phone taking a while to set exposure and slower shutter speeds being favoured in order to keep iso and noise low.

themancc said:
Does the camera take quick pictures? I had the V30 before and a common problem which they had was that there was a lag between pressing the shutter button and the picture being taken. This would mean that I would frequently miss photos of my kids, creating a blurred picture. I have read this was mixture of the phone taking a while to set exposure and slower shutter speeds being favoured in order to keep iso and noise low.
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Really quick. Also night mode is really fast.

Says it all great camera and this is with night shot.

snaske65 said:
Says it all great camera and this is with night shot.
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What are those?

They are zooanthoids in my fish tank. They are a soft coral.
Usually you dont get there color to well because of the blue night light, thebpicture gets washed in blue.
This camera can filter a lot of that out. A lot og phones cant.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia 1 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

So,.... Basically, on the camera front,...
Winner winner chicken dinner.
Finally.
Full review with samples coming soon.

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daily photos. This mode definitely overcomes the Galaxy S10. We compared these two smartphones during the shoot. The shot is fast
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It seems that it still has issues with overblown light sources and dynamic range. Maybe someone could test if there is a difference with the HDR-mode or even RAW-photos developed with LR? Thanks.

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It seems that it still has issues with overblown light sources and dynamic range. Maybe someone could test if there is a difference with the HDR-mode or even RAW-photos developed with LR? Thanks.
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Dynmic range is fine. There's a difference between always-on HDR, which leads to unrealistic levels of detail in shadows and dark skies on a bright day, and "good" dynamic range. The Sony gets it about right.
You CAN get the same results as competitors if you hop over to Manual HDR - which is a whole new algorythm, as far as I can see - but I've done it a few times now and,... I just think it looks fake. Which it is.
The X1 outputs the most realistic and reliable photographs of any current smartphone.
They're impeccably coloured, naturally exposed and full of detail.
Don't be fooled into being told that flattening the dynamic range is what makes a picture good - there's far more at play than that. The DR on the X1 is absolutely fine and the rest of the output is, frankly, top-of-the-pack.
Samples: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/

Timaustin2000 said:
You CAN get the same results as competitors if you hop over to Manual HDR - which is a whole new algorythm, as far as I can see - but I've done it a few times now and,... I just think it looks fake. Which it is.
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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!

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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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My p20 pro has really spoiled me in that regard. It is insane how good it handles contre jour (against the light).

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The new algorithm sounds interesting. I guess this one night picture with the supermarket shows that it overexposes the lamps of the shop, wich you can also see in other pictures around the internet. That´s the problem... Maybe you could upload this picture with HDR? Or other pictures as comparison between non-HDR/HDR? Would be great!
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Your wish is my command,...
https://youtu.be/DbzytyjfWJk
Link to full resolution images in the description, as are my notes.

Random point and shoot. Love how each image turns out of this camera. Colour grading, sharpness and dynamic range is on point. Little bit of tweaking makes images so dramatic. Definitely one of my favourite phone cameras.
4K video with gimbal and Cinema Pro app is great too. Would be amazing to shoot cinematic videos.

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Your wish is my command,... Link to full resolution images in the description, as are my notes.
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Thanks so much. Really great. :good:

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someone on ESATO mentioned main camera lens of all unit are faulty.
what do you think?
https://www.esato.com/phonephotos/cam/sony/j9110/201906060815K2dnO6.jpg

I don't find the camera all that, stutter speed is laggy and the focus is not as good as my Samsung note 9.
I will play around more and see but I think few more updates on the camera are needed.
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a5ian300zx said:
I don't find the camera all that, stutter speed is laggy and the focus is not as good as my Samsung note 9.
I will play around more and see but I think few more updates on the camera are needed.
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Testing some more, I will like to correct my comment the clarity of the picture is sharper than the note 9, I will test the stutter speed when I get chance.
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a5ian300zx said:
Testing some more, I will like to correct my comment the clarity of the picture is sharper than the note 9, I will test the stutter speed when I get chance.
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side by side comparison with Note 9 is welcomed....
if xperia 1 takes comparable or better photos than Note 9...that is considered very good news for most casual users

Onepunchbro said:
side by side comparison with Note 9 is welcomed....
if xperia 1 takes comparable or better photos than Note 9...that is considered very good news for most casual users
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A look at GSMA's tests show that it does. It's a noisier image certainly but Samsung have always been over-the-top with their noise suppression and there's no doubt at all that the X1 produces more detail with better, more natural colours. Yes you have to manually go into HDR to reign in bright skies if the Sony doesn't select "backlight" - unlike the Sammy - but it's a slight problem that's just a tap away.
What I love about this camera is how natural the images look. They don't look over-processed or over contrasty. The colours are realistic and the DR is very,.. dunno. Filmic? Every picture I take with the thing just looks classy.
I'd put it above the Pixel too: resolved detail is about the same for both (IE better than Samsung's) but Sony's images are cleaner. Even at night - and despite "Night Light" - the Sony's night shots are better than the Pixels, IMHO.
The only phone that seems to be genuinely producing something better on the camera front is the P30 Pro - so long as the AI mode is switched off. If you can live with the 2mp detail loss, I'd say it just about keeps hold of the top spot. The Sony has the better camcorder, however,.... so,.....
But I've no doubt at all that the Xperia 1 is top two in the smartphone camera race this year. No doubt at all.

xzpremium1976 said:
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daily photos. This mode definitely overcomes the Galaxy S10. We compared these two smartphones during the shoot. The shot is fast
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I have both xperia 1 and S10plus.....no way for Sony to beat s10+ photos. Also videos in 4K are horrible and the stabilisation terrible in Sony.
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Timaustin2000 said:
A look at GSMA's tests show that it does. It's a noisier image certainly but Samsung have always been over-the-top with their noise suppression and there's no doubt at all that the X1 produces more detail with better, more natural colours. Yes you have to manually go into HDR to reign in bright skies if the Sony doesn't select "backlight" - unlike the Sammy - but it's a slight problem that's just a tap away.
What I love about this camera is how natural the images look. They don't look over-processed or over contrasty. The colours are realistic and the DR is very,.. dunno. Filmic? Every picture I take with the thing just looks classy.
I'd put it above the Pixel too: resolved detail is about the same for both (IE better than Samsung's) but Sony's images are cleaner. Even at night - and despite "Night Light" - the Sony's night shots are better than the Pixels, IMHO.
The only phone that seems to be genuinely producing something better on the camera front is the P30 Pro - so long as the AI mode is switched off. If you can live with the 2mp detail loss, I'd say it just about keeps hold of the top spot. The Sony has the better camcorder, however,.... so,.....
But I've no doubt at all that the Xperia 1 is top two in the smartphone camera race this year. No doubt at all.
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All the photos if you crop them are much noisier than s10+ photos...

Nop the photos of the S10 + leave burned and with more noise
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marko68 said:
I have both xperia 1 and S10plus.....no way for Sony to beat s10+ photos. Also videos in 4K are horrible and the stabilisation terrible in Sony.
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All the photos if you crop them are much noisier than s10+ photos...
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And if you crop into all - and I mean all - of GSMA's S10 images you'll notice that they contain much less fine detail than the sony, especially at night.
If "Ooooh, there's no noise" is how you judge a camera then you've a long way to go, my friend.
GSMAs comparisson shots - and my own experience with both - tell the same story over and over again: The Sony produces a more detailed, better composed shot with extremely accurate White Balance without the temptation to blow greens and reds up to 20, as the S10 does. Yes, the Sony sacrifices some noise in the persuit of more detail but the detail is important: it gives pictures texture and fidelity. It gives realism. Ever since the s7, Samsung's awful processing algorythm has saught to display no noise whatsoever and every time I see the same result: plastic images with flat detailing, over-contrasted, over coloured. Great for instagram but awful as actual pictures.
If you don't actually care about the quality of pictures, go ahead and love the S10. I'll take that little extra noise (LESS noise, I might add, than any LG OR the Pixel 3 range - by a significant margin) for a truly textured, composed image.
And there's no question that the S10 is worse at night. Its saving grace is that it controls strong light sources better than the Sony but it's the X1 that has less noise, more detail, better colours and a far more realistic exposure (strong light sources accepted as a failing).
An S10 would not, for example, capture this image https://flic.kr/p/2gcamWy - (as usual, download it in full res). Noise is virtually nil, detail is very high for the light available (you can read the graffiti in the dust of the van and see blades of grass in shadow), it's sharp, colours are accurate, exposure is on point - including the sky, which was still partially lit. An S10 would have overexposed all of the shadows, blown out the sky and removed the fine detail - I see it time and time again.
But love what you love. C'est La Vie. But, with respect, that doesn't make you right.

Timaustin2000 said:
And if you crop into all - and I mean all - of GSMA's S10 images you'll notice that they contain much less fine detail than the sony, especially at night.
If "Ooooh, there's no noise" is how you judge a camera then you've a long way to go, my friend.
GSMAs comparisson shots - and my own experience with both - tell the same story over and over again: The Sony produces a more detailed, better composed shot with extremely accurate White Balance without the temptation to blow greens and reds up to 20, as the S10 does. Yes, the Sony sacrifices some noise in the persuit of more detail but the detail is important: it gives pictures texture and fidelity. It gives realism. Ever since the s7, Samsung's awful processing algorythm has saught to display no noise whatsoever and every time I see the same result: plastic images with flat detailing, over-contrasted, over coloured. Great for instagram but awful as actual pictures.
If you don't actually care about the quality of pictures, go ahead and love the S10. I'll take that little extra noise (LESS noise, I might add, than any LG OR the Pixel 3 range - by a significant margin) for a truly textured, composed image.
And there's no question that the S10 is worse at night. Its saving grace is that it controls strong light sources better than the Sony but it's the X1 that has less noise, more detail, better colours and a far more realistic exposure (strong light sources accepted as a failing).
An S10 would not, for example, capture this image https://flic.kr/p/2gcamWy - (as usual, download it in full res). Noise is virtually nil, detail is very high for the light available (you can read the graffiti in the dust of the van and see blades of grass in shadow), it's sharp, colours are accurate, exposure is on point - including the sky, which was still partially lit. An S10 would have overexposed all of the shadows, blown out the sky and removed the fine detail - I see it time and time again.
But love what you love. C'est La Vie. But, with respect, that doesn't make you right.
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Look at these two photos :
https://ibb.co/zZJr87p
https://ibb.co/wyx0Ft2
Flowers in Sony photo they have no details, you can't see properly the empty spaces in between flower petals, the s10+ photo is full of details, details missing in Sony
These photos are shot by myself not taken from an internet review...