Hi -
I've had my HTC HD2 a few days and although I'm happy with it's features, I'm really frustrated by the poor battery life. The first day I used it the battery was dead within under 12 hours from me starting to use it, and at the start it was fully charged. On this first day I did have email and weather etc on auto check though.
So last night I disabled weather, set email to manual checking and disabled a few other things, but did leave HSDPA and 3G on. There was a slight improvement today but not much, the battery lasted the full 12 hours, but with only 2% remaining.
Both days I don't think my usage was very high. I'd maybe had 10 minutes of phone calls, sent around 10 text messages, listened to 45 minutes of music, checked one or two websites, and played games on the phone for about 15 minutes. Imagine how it would be when I need to make several calls in a day.
I have searched the forum for tips on improving battery life but the main suggestions seem to say that I should disable HSDPA and 3G but one of the main functions of the phone is internet usage and I don't see why I should how to switch to manually putting these settings on and off each time I want to use the internet, just so I can get a longer battery life - the battery should be able to cope with moderate usage!
Does anyone have any further suggestions?
Thank you
Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
Disable automatic screen brightness and set it to something like 30%.
Disable location services and stuff.
Give the battery some cycles to reach full potential.
But of course, gaming, internetting and listening to music will drain the battery faster. It lasts about 2 days for me with moderate use (some internet, some playing around, etc) which is pretty fair imo.
dagrim1 said:
Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
Disable automatic screen brightness and set it to something like 30%.
Disable location services and stuff.
Give the battery some cycles to reach full potential.
But of course, gaming, internetting and listening to music will drain the battery faster. It lasts about 2 days for me with moderate use (some internet, some playing around, etc) which is pretty fair imo.
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I'll give that a try. So will it automatically enable it when I start browsing the internet or something?
I already changed the screen brightness and disabled location services though. That didn't seem to make a big difference.
And how much difference does giving the battery some cycles make?
Thanks.
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Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way
Bandswitch can definitely do 2 things- it can disconnect idle connections, which will reconnect when needed, but this won't switch the transport between 3G and GSM, and has little effect on battery life
Or it can be used to manually change between 3G and GSM, using whichever is selected for its current transport and then autodisconnecting if required. It is the action of switching to GSM which has the most impact on battery life, but there is no way to switch automatically between to 2 as it needs a phone radio off/on to execute the switch.
Poor 3G signal conditions will hammer the battery because the phone will continually hunt for the strongest signal and switch constantly between modes. If your 3G signal is less than 2 bars I'd suggest switching it to GSM until you are in a stronger signal area. Do this by going to Phone/Menu/ then scroll down to Band and from there switch between Auto and GSM. If that makes a difference then you could install a small utility to make the switch easier to access.
seems very odd, mine was fully charged around 11pm last night, have sent around 20 texts, 20 mins calls, had wifi on, done some browsing, abit of sat nav and its on 68% 20 hours later.
I get at least 24 hours with moderate use. Most of the time i get around 30 hours.
I have weather and peep updating automatically + email retrieval at every hour.
When I first got mine it was lasting less than 12 hours too.
Now I'm on ROM 1.61 and have the following settings:
HSDPA disabled
Weather update every 3 hours
Twitter updates ever 1 hours (though it actually only updates when I scroll to the Peep tab)
Facebook auto updates - Off
Stock auto updates - off
Bluetooth and Wifi off unless needed.
Screen brightness - 30%
Haptic feeback, Vibration - off
Push Email - On
I'm getting over 24 hours of life out of a full charge now. I have got the push email set to manual updates only during off-peak hours ie when I'm sleeping. During the night the charge drops around 1% per hour. It was at 47% when I went to sleep last night and was 40% when I woke 7 hours later. This seems to be typical overnight drop for me.
Over my first few days of tinkering and setting up I found the battery drain to be massive. Once you settle down to regular usage it is a lot lot better.
However, just to be careful, I do now have a desk cradle at work so I can charge my phone if I have to.
Prior to my most recent hard-reset I found that if I left the phone in stand-by over night, with it checking for email every 5 minutes, and weather every 15 minutes, the battery would go from 100% to zero in less than nine hours. And that's without using it at all! As an experiment I tried turning off everything that could possibly be using the data connection, and turning off 3G, so nothing was running at all except the phone in 2G mode listening for calls and texts. It still burned 20% of the battery overnight in stand-by.
Since doing a hard reset, if I repeat the second experiment then I find that overnight battery drain is now only 4% - so clearly some piece of software that I had installed prior to the reset was hammering the battery even in stand-by. Quite what it was, I'm not sure yet. (My current prime suspects are the task manager and 1% battery status icons).
If you're having battery drain issues then I suggest doing a hard-reset and then not installing anything remotely controversial for a day or two to see if that sorts out the drain. If it does, then you can start reinstalling things gradually to see what difference each one makes.
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way
Bandswitch can definitely do 2 things- it can disconnect idle connections, which will reconnect when needed, but this won't switch the transport between 3G and GSM, and has little effect on battery life
Or it can be used to manually change between 3G and GSM, using whichever is selected for its current transport and then autodisconnecting if required. It is the action of switching to GSM which has the most impact on battery life, but there is no way to switch automatically between to 2 as it needs a phone radio off/on to execute the switch.
Poor 3G signal conditions will hammer the battery because the phone will continually hunt for the strongest signal and switch constantly between modes. If your 3G signal is less than 2 bars I'd suggest switching it to GSM until you are in a stronger signal area. Do this by going to Phone/Menu/ then scroll down to Band and from there switch between Auto and GSM. If that makes a difference then you could install a small utility to make the switch easier to access.
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Oh, I misunderstood it then... thank you for clearing that up!
It's very interesting, to see the number of people who have battery draining problems. I have the french SFR ROM 1.44 and since the beginning found my battery life satisfying (I didn't expect long life, as my wife has to charge her iPhone every night).
My battery lasts in heavy use 24h (though it can go down to 18h when using internet by 3G/HSPDA for long period like 1h or more) and under "normal" daily use (checking e-mail regularly, 20 min phone calls, sending some SMS, 30 mins internet, 45 mins playing around / listening some music) around 1.5 days.
My settings are:
3G/HSDPA enabled
Weather update every 6 hours
Stock auto updates - every 8 hours
Bluetooth and Wifi off unless needed
Screen brightness - auto
Haptic feeback, Vibration - off
E-mail check: every 2 hours (POP3)
Faulty batteries? I think not....
Whilst I'm a master of google searching, I get worse results using the search facility on this forum than just using intuition.
Anyway, I just wanted to add my comments on battery life after owning a stock 1.43 phone from Vodafone UK. I was getting less than 8 hours life with everything on auto and making just a couple of shortish phone calls and a couple of quick browses. The rest of the time I was in standby and I thought that my phone was one of the worst out there. I had also installed Skype which I had running in the background which sometimes causes the phone not to go into auto-standby even though it would dim normally. I also noticed that I was in a very weak signal area and that my phone was constantly switching between 2G/3G/H which I understand can consume a lot of power. Also, I had stopped using wi-fi to see if that helped.
After reading a million threads, I decided to conduct an experiment last night. Usually if I charge the phone before going to sleep for 8 hours it is down to 70% when I wake up having been left in standby. So last night I disabled everything. Turned off 3G, data connections, My Location, Weather update, Stocks Update, FaceBook login, e-mail updates, Skype, bluetooth, wifi. In fact absolutely everything I could find that could be turned off except the basic 2G phone itself.
Guess what, I wake up 8 hours later... 96%.
16 hours later.... 81% with very light use.
Now I'm going to have to spend many days playing around with different settings to see which apps or functions are gobbling the power. I have a nasty feeling that the weak signal is half the problem
So cheer up! It's not ideal, but this is a brand new, smartfone with bugs - not a Nokia 6110. Higher capacity batteries and ROM updates will come. In the meantime you just have to figure out what is sucking up the juice on your HD2 and disable these functions if you don't need them or when you are not using them.
Good luck and enjoy it! The coolest phone around...
Rickster
Donations appreciated (That incompetent government and those reckless banks put me out of busines...)
Hello everyone,
like the majority of the owners of HD2, in order to optimise the duration of accumulator charge, I use Band connection control programs , to pass in 3G only when it is necessary. Thus, I have:
- phoneAlarm: to force the 2G mode the night, and also for differ quiet mode if I am in meeting, etc…. In particular, in the case which interests me there, I force the 2G the night and asks to pass to 2G the morning.
- WMlonglife (version for HD2): which normally loads himself to make the effective switch 2G towards 3G or 3G+ if an application program requiring it is launched, and otherwise to remain in 2G. It should be noted that WMlonglife has two applis, one for the configuration, and to make manually changes 2G 3G, WMbandswitch.
- recently, I tested Bandswitch v2.8
I meet the following phenomena, and I would like to know if others also have them, and/or if there are parameters to change so that it goes better.
Point A: Already some question about the icons of the bar of state in top.
There are always two icons side by side. Tell me if I interpret them well.
one with a letter: G= GSM, E= Edge, 3G = 3G, H = 3G+
This letter tellsonly that this kind of network is available, but it does not say that one is actually connected there. Is it well that?
To know in which mode one is actually connected, it is another icon, on its line, with the 1 to 4 bars of reception and a small letter, which should be looked at.
This small letter, it is “H " ==> connected in 3G+, “3G” ==> connected in 3G, “E” ==> connected in Edge
and finally a simple antenna, which I imagine wants to say that one is just connected in 2G, no data connection
Is what all that is correct?
Is there another mean of knowing in real-time the current mode of connexion (and thus mode of conso of the accumulator)?
Point B, use of Phonealarm:
like said in introduction, I force the 2G (mode GSM/GPRS) during the night, and to 6:00 of the morning, I pass it in mode “house” where I put “Car”, by also putting the pin number at it, because it seems that for this transition, one needs the pin number (is it the radio cycle on-off?)
There, the first thing, they is that every morning, when I unlock it I find myself with the screen for input of the pin number, where it is enough to make cancel (because the code already entered via PA and even already connected). Moreover, if one tries to enter a pin number, then he refuses the input.
on the other hand, at this time, the telephone seems to remain in Edge icon “E”, and does not pass in H. On the other hand, so there I reset, then he will connect to H with the boot
Have you also this history of pin number?
For hangs, it is as if WMlonglife did not take the hand to force a 3G mode or 3G+….
this brings me to the point C
Point C: WMbandswitch… after a software reset, my Tel. is connected automatically towards the 3G network (or 3G+) of orange. On the other hand the morning (after to automatic wake up through PA), it remains in E. When I test action manually a passage in 3G with WMbandswitch, it does not change anything. I tested with radio operator chip on Samsung, or Qualcomm (WCDMA). similar behavior….
To check out, I then loaded and installed Bandswitch 2.8, and tried to change into 3G, and there I see appearing the letter H. so, there is a difference with WMlonglife, which would seem to show that WMlonglife does not manage to make the switch towards 3G.
Which radio chip put in WMlonglife?
Have you to it even thing?
Poind D: use of bandswitch 2.8 (on xda): I tested. Hard to know if that is interfaced well with all the remainder. Of your experiment, which one would you advise? It does not have the system of “whitelist” like WMlonglife…
Here is, in synthesis, to summarise my questions
- Has: major significance of the icons
- B: phonealarm and switch of the 3G mode (after a forcing in 2G the night)
- C: WMbandswitch, and configuration/use for HD2
- D: alternative to WMlonglife?
For info, with normal use of browsing, email and phone, I drop of about 50% battery for 24h, that is not so bad, but I 'd like to make sure about the Bandswitch thing...
Thank you in advance for all…
vdelab
Bought my Xperia just over a month ago, and installed juicedefender and juiceplotter to help manage my power use.
At first, I did the whole charging cycle thing, and managed to get battery life up to nearly 20 hours after a week! In the past few weeks however, my phone barely lasts 10 hours now...the battery dies before I can get a chance to recharge. I am a heavy user, but that doesn't seem to explain the sudden drop in battery capacity.
Because of the drop in power over the last few weeks, I have set EVERYTHING to not update, and google sync has been set to sync every other day.
Will my battery just continue to get worse? or do I have a faulty battery?
don't get me wrong, I love my new phone...I just need to know if this is a typical problem, or if I need to get a new battery.
Thanks!
Hi - I'm getting about 40 hours out of mine.. I tend to switch mobile data off when I'm at home as I use wifi.. the problem seems mainly to lie with 3G.. so when I'm out and about I switch wifi off and mobile data on.. but I tend to keep to 2G (GSM) for background syncing etc.. and switch 3G(GSM/WCDMA preferred) on when I want to do any active stuff.. like internet browsing of using the XDA app... I also have my Wifi sleep policy set to "sleep when screen is off"..
What do you use your phone for? if you can tell me a bit about how your using your handset I might be able to give you some more specific advice.
Thanks for the fast reply!
I use juice defender to switch off 3G when the screen is off. It connects every 15 minutes, could that be the issue?
I've looked for a way to switch to GSM, but I can't seem to do it with my carrier(don't have the option in my settings).
I use a lot of data, up to 3 gigs per month 3G only(on average). 4 or 5 calls a day, and probably 100 texts per day. I keep my screen at around 25% brightness.
If you can't switch to GSM then maybe try switching mobile data off all together when you're not using it..(when travelling etc)... (far from ideal I know!).. but it might help.. I think that the 3G radio isn't sleeping properly.. the new software update which is due out anytime now MIGHT solve it.. but only if you're either on an unbranded handset (sound like you're not) or your carrier pushes the update through to you...
The other things you can try is to switch off "Search for updates automatically" in the phone settings... and switch of determine location by wireless networks (in the location settings menu)..
There was a thread about auto brightness causing constant cpu drain, leaving it autobrightness is thought to be battery kind`er.
Ive stopped using task managers and just use default android control and its good for my battery. I check the ram availability occasionaly and though it gets down to around 30 or 40 or meg it shows no slowdowns or hangups but I do reboot after charging every other night.
I'm experiencing similar behavior: poor, then good, then poor, then good again, of course with similar usage. I don't use any task killer and have 3G always on. I have tried 3 different batteries: the stock one, the one from my X1, and the 1800 mAh from Mugen: same pattern with every battery.
I definitely think that there's something bad in the design of the power circuitry and/or in the kernel.
I am really new to android devices.
I got a Rogers moto flipout MB511 (Canada) from my friend recently. The standby time is terribly short. Discharged within 10 hours just standby in an area with good signal strength (-69db, 2G only).
I have disabled background sync, wifi, 3G, used setcpu to use 125/125mhz when screen off, removed facebook account. (I do have gmail account setup) The standby could be even shorter if I don't do things mentioned above.
Tried different roms, like 0.18.4 (This is en.CN rom), U3_01.14.2 (This is a rom without Motoblur, is really fast!), no noticeable improvement. With Powertutor, I haven't found any suspect app consuming too much battery power.
I was expecting at least 2-3 days with phone standby in 2G.
Does anyone have the same issue with me. i am wondering if this is hardware related issue or software issue. I suspect this phone might have current leaking issue. Is there any software can accurately report current?
Any suggestions?
That also arrives at me that do I have to make?
the same trouble to me
I'm guessing it's just a standard effect of how the phone draws power. The guy i bought mine from on eBay included an extra battery with it, for that reason.
But this is definitely abnormal.
Using *#*#4636#*#*, I found the there is some problem with Android system, which holds partial wake lock most of the time. So the phone is not in sleeping state for most of the time.
I don't have data to prove this. I know some of the guys' flipout can last 2-3 days, and they all have data plan (not just something like unlimited browsing, with only 80 port available.). For some of the reasons, I feel this is caused by Moto blur. A lot of blur stuff is put into android system. They might try to communicate with the blur server, which requires SSL and 80 port available. Because my phone doesn't have data plan, communication will fail. During retry, the blur keeps partial wake lock and prevent phone from sleeping.
I got this issue with all firmwares that runs on my phone, including the deblur version. I think even the deblur version has a lot of blur stuff and try to pass back some user data back to moto server based on IMEI.
Try buying a new oem stock battery?
I am pretty sure it is not the fault of the battery. I have 2 stock batteries, standby time is proportional to their capacity.
The issue is obviously the partial lock.
Same here
Battery goes pretty fast even when not using the phone, even worse when using it.
Yeah I'm also experiencing same problems! I'm using the deblur version.
Battery drains like hell! I'm also on 2G, no wifi, no gps, no data sync!
I've checked my battery usage and this is what I got:
Voice calls: 32%
Cell standby: 22%
Phone idle: 18%
Android OS: 16%
Android System: 4%
ZDbox: 3%
Display: 2%
Cell standby, Phone idle and Android OS seem to be quite high. Anyone know why?
Thanks
Hi,
Same sh*t here...
I have better results if I am running the JuiceDefender (extreme profile: data on demand) and SetCPU (profile: on screen off: 125/125) . Note that on the SetCPU the profile options (on the top of the profiles) MUST be checked in order to be active... Unfortunatelly I am stuck to 3G only (feckin three-mobile-UK does not allow to fallback to 2G)
Also, I am running the "Quick Settings" in order to cut off quickly the GPS/data/wifi.
BTW, be sure that the Settings -> Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Blur Applications is set to "Sync over Wi-Fi Only"
My results so far are :
mobile left the overnight charger arounf 7:30, then after 12hrs (19:00) the battery is around 60% .. all this time just some sms (no calls at all) plus around 10min email check..
cheers
reptakos said:
Hi,
Same sh*t here...
I have better results if I am running the JuiceDefender (extreme profile: data on demand) and SetCPU (profile: on screen off: 125/125) . Note that on the SetCPU the profile options (on the top of the profiles) MUST be checked in order to be active... Unfortunatelly I am stuck to 3G only (feckin three-mobile-UK does not allow to fallback to 2G)
Also, I am running the "Quick Settings" in order to cut off quickly the GPS/data/wifi.
BTW, be sure that the Settings -> Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Blur Applications is set to "Sync over Wi-Fi Only"
My results so far are :
mobile left the overnight charger arounf 7:30, then after 12hrs (19:00) the battery is around 60% .. all this time just some sms (no calls at all) plus around 10min email check..
cheers
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three uk are a 3g only network they have no 2g system
all of their handsets have been 3g from the start because of video calling
I´ve got 24h+ Standby time, Deblur + Juice defender + Never make/recive calls with this ****.
i had the same problem. only 6/7 hours tops with juice defender on!
i switched of 3g and now it does 20 percent a day!
must be a firmware issue.
i got deblurred rom, euro.
with rom deblur,setcpu with screenoff freq 125-250 (screenon 125-550mhz),juicedefender free (set screenoff no data,app update freq 30min),10 sms received,15 mins of call,internet navigation about 10min,my flipout is now at 50% of battery (the phone is on by 9.00AM)...
but with this setting and with a more intensive use (20-30 mins of call,10-15 sms,30-40 mins of internet) my flipout goes at 0% in about 12h
Hi,
Its almost 2 months after my last reply here..
My flipout now can stay 48h on standby, and on normal usage (around 50 sms send/receive and 30min of 3g data..) can be stay alive for 1.5 days ..
The applications that I find very usefull are:
SetCPU (I set the phone to be 125Mhz min/max when the Screen is OFF)
DataSwitch ( to kill any data connection)
Autorun manager (to avoid running some apps like Skype)
I also re-calibrated the battery a couple of times (I left it to be completely drained then recharged to 100% and used a util called Battery calibration)
Not bad anyway...
cheers
My data allowance was suddenly wiped out during the night given that I use wifi at home. I looked up the data usage and it was G+ 2.44Gb! I have auto-backup and sync switched on but only for wifi connection. I cannot understand how it might happen. No I am grounded in terms of mobile Internet till mid month when my allowance is going to be reset or should pay £1 a day if I keep using it. I guess there is no way to get Google pay for that although it is their fault.
Did you limit the data usage? Settings > data usage > Check set mobile data limit. In the bar move the two lines on how much data usage you should get a warning and limit the data usage.
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Did you limit the data usage? Settings > data usage > Check set mobile data limit. In the bar move the two lines on how much data usage you should get a warning and limit the data usage.
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It was set albeit at the top of my monthly allowance. It all happened during a few hours at night so I could not act on the warning anyway. Next time I will be wise and set the limit to 50-75% of the allowance, which I usually never use fully anyway. The annoying bit is that there is no meaningful way to complain to Google or about Google, although it is probably their bug in G+, which was responsible for the extreme data usage.
Received the January bill from T-Mobile today and it shows that I got over the limit actually from Dec.29 and was charged 1 pound a day for 11 days. Something wierd happenned. I wonder if anyone else experienced same thing as well?
After i got essential phone , i am seeing a difference in the data usage reported by phone vs the actual usage. Phone always shows the data usage as less 10 MB but actual network usage is above 1 GB. Is there a easy fix for this? I am on Android 7.1.1 and with Jan security update installed.
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When you click more options on the data usage screen, look at the middle of the screen that comes up. There should be an option for billing cycle, make sure it syncs up with your actual billing cycle.
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When you click more options on the data usage screen, look at the middle of the screen that comes up. There should be an option for billing cycle, make sure it syncs up with your actual billing cycle.
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Issue is not with the billing cycle. Billing cycle is correct for me. Even at the end of billing it has not crossed 10MB in the past 2 cycles.
There's a bug with this phone regarding this issue. Mine is the same, but I've never relied on the phone's reporting. That's what the MySprint app is for.