I am really new to android devices.
I got a Rogers moto flipout MB511 (Canada) from my friend recently. The standby time is terribly short. Discharged within 10 hours just standby in an area with good signal strength (-69db, 2G only).
I have disabled background sync, wifi, 3G, used setcpu to use 125/125mhz when screen off, removed facebook account. (I do have gmail account setup) The standby could be even shorter if I don't do things mentioned above.
Tried different roms, like 0.18.4 (This is en.CN rom), U3_01.14.2 (This is a rom without Motoblur, is really fast!), no noticeable improvement. With Powertutor, I haven't found any suspect app consuming too much battery power.
I was expecting at least 2-3 days with phone standby in 2G.
Does anyone have the same issue with me. i am wondering if this is hardware related issue or software issue. I suspect this phone might have current leaking issue. Is there any software can accurately report current?
Any suggestions?
That also arrives at me that do I have to make?
the same trouble to me
I'm guessing it's just a standard effect of how the phone draws power. The guy i bought mine from on eBay included an extra battery with it, for that reason.
But this is definitely abnormal.
Using *#*#4636#*#*, I found the there is some problem with Android system, which holds partial wake lock most of the time. So the phone is not in sleeping state for most of the time.
I don't have data to prove this. I know some of the guys' flipout can last 2-3 days, and they all have data plan (not just something like unlimited browsing, with only 80 port available.). For some of the reasons, I feel this is caused by Moto blur. A lot of blur stuff is put into android system. They might try to communicate with the blur server, which requires SSL and 80 port available. Because my phone doesn't have data plan, communication will fail. During retry, the blur keeps partial wake lock and prevent phone from sleeping.
I got this issue with all firmwares that runs on my phone, including the deblur version. I think even the deblur version has a lot of blur stuff and try to pass back some user data back to moto server based on IMEI.
Try buying a new oem stock battery?
I am pretty sure it is not the fault of the battery. I have 2 stock batteries, standby time is proportional to their capacity.
The issue is obviously the partial lock.
Same here
Battery goes pretty fast even when not using the phone, even worse when using it.
Yeah I'm also experiencing same problems! I'm using the deblur version.
Battery drains like hell! I'm also on 2G, no wifi, no gps, no data sync!
I've checked my battery usage and this is what I got:
Voice calls: 32%
Cell standby: 22%
Phone idle: 18%
Android OS: 16%
Android System: 4%
ZDbox: 3%
Display: 2%
Cell standby, Phone idle and Android OS seem to be quite high. Anyone know why?
Thanks
Hi,
Same sh*t here...
I have better results if I am running the JuiceDefender (extreme profile: data on demand) and SetCPU (profile: on screen off: 125/125) . Note that on the SetCPU the profile options (on the top of the profiles) MUST be checked in order to be active... Unfortunatelly I am stuck to 3G only (feckin three-mobile-UK does not allow to fallback to 2G)
Also, I am running the "Quick Settings" in order to cut off quickly the GPS/data/wifi.
BTW, be sure that the Settings -> Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Blur Applications is set to "Sync over Wi-Fi Only"
My results so far are :
mobile left the overnight charger arounf 7:30, then after 12hrs (19:00) the battery is around 60% .. all this time just some sms (no calls at all) plus around 10min email check..
cheers
reptakos said:
Hi,
Same sh*t here...
I have better results if I am running the JuiceDefender (extreme profile: data on demand) and SetCPU (profile: on screen off: 125/125) . Note that on the SetCPU the profile options (on the top of the profiles) MUST be checked in order to be active... Unfortunatelly I am stuck to 3G only (feckin three-mobile-UK does not allow to fallback to 2G)
Also, I am running the "Quick Settings" in order to cut off quickly the GPS/data/wifi.
BTW, be sure that the Settings -> Data Manager -> Data Delivery -> Blur Applications is set to "Sync over Wi-Fi Only"
My results so far are :
mobile left the overnight charger arounf 7:30, then after 12hrs (19:00) the battery is around 60% .. all this time just some sms (no calls at all) plus around 10min email check..
cheers
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three uk are a 3g only network they have no 2g system
all of their handsets have been 3g from the start because of video calling
I´ve got 24h+ Standby time, Deblur + Juice defender + Never make/recive calls with this ****.
i had the same problem. only 6/7 hours tops with juice defender on!
i switched of 3g and now it does 20 percent a day!
must be a firmware issue.
i got deblurred rom, euro.
with rom deblur,setcpu with screenoff freq 125-250 (screenon 125-550mhz),juicedefender free (set screenoff no data,app update freq 30min),10 sms received,15 mins of call,internet navigation about 10min,my flipout is now at 50% of battery (the phone is on by 9.00AM)...
but with this setting and with a more intensive use (20-30 mins of call,10-15 sms,30-40 mins of internet) my flipout goes at 0% in about 12h
Hi,
Its almost 2 months after my last reply here..
My flipout now can stay 48h on standby, and on normal usage (around 50 sms send/receive and 30min of 3g data..) can be stay alive for 1.5 days ..
The applications that I find very usefull are:
SetCPU (I set the phone to be 125Mhz min/max when the Screen is OFF)
DataSwitch ( to kill any data connection)
Autorun manager (to avoid running some apps like Skype)
I also re-calibrated the battery a couple of times (I left it to be completely drained then recharged to 100% and used a util called Battery calibration)
Not bad anyway...
cheers
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Hi -
I've had my HTC HD2 a few days and although I'm happy with it's features, I'm really frustrated by the poor battery life. The first day I used it the battery was dead within under 12 hours from me starting to use it, and at the start it was fully charged. On this first day I did have email and weather etc on auto check though.
So last night I disabled weather, set email to manual checking and disabled a few other things, but did leave HSDPA and 3G on. There was a slight improvement today but not much, the battery lasted the full 12 hours, but with only 2% remaining.
Both days I don't think my usage was very high. I'd maybe had 10 minutes of phone calls, sent around 10 text messages, listened to 45 minutes of music, checked one or two websites, and played games on the phone for about 15 minutes. Imagine how it would be when I need to make several calls in a day.
I have searched the forum for tips on improving battery life but the main suggestions seem to say that I should disable HSDPA and 3G but one of the main functions of the phone is internet usage and I don't see why I should how to switch to manually putting these settings on and off each time I want to use the internet, just so I can get a longer battery life - the battery should be able to cope with moderate usage!
Does anyone have any further suggestions?
Thank you
Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
Disable automatic screen brightness and set it to something like 30%.
Disable location services and stuff.
Give the battery some cycles to reach full potential.
But of course, gaming, internetting and listening to music will drain the battery faster. It lasts about 2 days for me with moderate use (some internet, some playing around, etc) which is pretty fair imo.
dagrim1 said:
Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
Disable automatic screen brightness and set it to something like 30%.
Disable location services and stuff.
Give the battery some cycles to reach full potential.
But of course, gaming, internetting and listening to music will drain the battery faster. It lasts about 2 days for me with moderate use (some internet, some playing around, etc) which is pretty fair imo.
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I'll give that a try. So will it automatically enable it when I start browsing the internet or something?
I already changed the screen brightness and disabled location services though. That didn't seem to make a big difference.
And how much difference does giving the battery some cycles make?
Thanks.
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Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way
Bandswitch can definitely do 2 things- it can disconnect idle connections, which will reconnect when needed, but this won't switch the transport between 3G and GSM, and has little effect on battery life
Or it can be used to manually change between 3G and GSM, using whichever is selected for its current transport and then autodisconnecting if required. It is the action of switching to GSM which has the most impact on battery life, but there is no way to switch automatically between to 2 as it needs a phone radio off/on to execute the switch.
Poor 3G signal conditions will hammer the battery because the phone will continually hunt for the strongest signal and switch constantly between modes. If your 3G signal is less than 2 bars I'd suggest switching it to GSM until you are in a stronger signal area. Do this by going to Phone/Menu/ then scroll down to Band and from there switch between Auto and GSM. If that makes a difference then you could install a small utility to make the switch easier to access.
seems very odd, mine was fully charged around 11pm last night, have sent around 20 texts, 20 mins calls, had wifi on, done some browsing, abit of sat nav and its on 68% 20 hours later.
I get at least 24 hours with moderate use. Most of the time i get around 30 hours.
I have weather and peep updating automatically + email retrieval at every hour.
When I first got mine it was lasting less than 12 hours too.
Now I'm on ROM 1.61 and have the following settings:
HSDPA disabled
Weather update every 3 hours
Twitter updates ever 1 hours (though it actually only updates when I scroll to the Peep tab)
Facebook auto updates - Off
Stock auto updates - off
Bluetooth and Wifi off unless needed.
Screen brightness - 30%
Haptic feeback, Vibration - off
Push Email - On
I'm getting over 24 hours of life out of a full charge now. I have got the push email set to manual updates only during off-peak hours ie when I'm sleeping. During the night the charge drops around 1% per hour. It was at 47% when I went to sleep last night and was 40% when I woke 7 hours later. This seems to be typical overnight drop for me.
Over my first few days of tinkering and setting up I found the battery drain to be massive. Once you settle down to regular usage it is a lot lot better.
However, just to be careful, I do now have a desk cradle at work so I can charge my phone if I have to.
Prior to my most recent hard-reset I found that if I left the phone in stand-by over night, with it checking for email every 5 minutes, and weather every 15 minutes, the battery would go from 100% to zero in less than nine hours. And that's without using it at all! As an experiment I tried turning off everything that could possibly be using the data connection, and turning off 3G, so nothing was running at all except the phone in 2G mode listening for calls and texts. It still burned 20% of the battery overnight in stand-by.
Since doing a hard reset, if I repeat the second experiment then I find that overnight battery drain is now only 4% - so clearly some piece of software that I had installed prior to the reset was hammering the battery even in stand-by. Quite what it was, I'm not sure yet. (My current prime suspects are the task manager and 1% battery status icons).
If you're having battery drain issues then I suggest doing a hard-reset and then not installing anything remotely controversial for a day or two to see if that sorts out the drain. If it does, then you can start reinstalling things gradually to see what difference each one makes.
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way
Bandswitch can definitely do 2 things- it can disconnect idle connections, which will reconnect when needed, but this won't switch the transport between 3G and GSM, and has little effect on battery life
Or it can be used to manually change between 3G and GSM, using whichever is selected for its current transport and then autodisconnecting if required. It is the action of switching to GSM which has the most impact on battery life, but there is no way to switch automatically between to 2 as it needs a phone radio off/on to execute the switch.
Poor 3G signal conditions will hammer the battery because the phone will continually hunt for the strongest signal and switch constantly between modes. If your 3G signal is less than 2 bars I'd suggest switching it to GSM until you are in a stronger signal area. Do this by going to Phone/Menu/ then scroll down to Band and from there switch between Auto and GSM. If that makes a difference then you could install a small utility to make the switch easier to access.
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Oh, I misunderstood it then... thank you for clearing that up!
It's very interesting, to see the number of people who have battery draining problems. I have the french SFR ROM 1.44 and since the beginning found my battery life satisfying (I didn't expect long life, as my wife has to charge her iPhone every night).
My battery lasts in heavy use 24h (though it can go down to 18h when using internet by 3G/HSPDA for long period like 1h or more) and under "normal" daily use (checking e-mail regularly, 20 min phone calls, sending some SMS, 30 mins internet, 45 mins playing around / listening some music) around 1.5 days.
My settings are:
3G/HSDPA enabled
Weather update every 6 hours
Stock auto updates - every 8 hours
Bluetooth and Wifi off unless needed
Screen brightness - auto
Haptic feeback, Vibration - off
E-mail check: every 2 hours (POP3)
Faulty batteries? I think not....
Whilst I'm a master of google searching, I get worse results using the search facility on this forum than just using intuition.
Anyway, I just wanted to add my comments on battery life after owning a stock 1.43 phone from Vodafone UK. I was getting less than 8 hours life with everything on auto and making just a couple of shortish phone calls and a couple of quick browses. The rest of the time I was in standby and I thought that my phone was one of the worst out there. I had also installed Skype which I had running in the background which sometimes causes the phone not to go into auto-standby even though it would dim normally. I also noticed that I was in a very weak signal area and that my phone was constantly switching between 2G/3G/H which I understand can consume a lot of power. Also, I had stopped using wi-fi to see if that helped.
After reading a million threads, I decided to conduct an experiment last night. Usually if I charge the phone before going to sleep for 8 hours it is down to 70% when I wake up having been left in standby. So last night I disabled everything. Turned off 3G, data connections, My Location, Weather update, Stocks Update, FaceBook login, e-mail updates, Skype, bluetooth, wifi. In fact absolutely everything I could find that could be turned off except the basic 2G phone itself.
Guess what, I wake up 8 hours later... 96%.
16 hours later.... 81% with very light use.
Now I'm going to have to spend many days playing around with different settings to see which apps or functions are gobbling the power. I have a nasty feeling that the weak signal is half the problem
So cheer up! It's not ideal, but this is a brand new, smartfone with bugs - not a Nokia 6110. Higher capacity batteries and ROM updates will come. In the meantime you just have to figure out what is sucking up the juice on your HD2 and disable these functions if you don't need them or when you are not using them.
Good luck and enjoy it! The coolest phone around...
Rickster
Donations appreciated (That incompetent government and those reckless banks put me out of busines...)
Hello everyone,
like the majority of the owners of HD2, in order to optimise the duration of accumulator charge, I use Band connection control programs , to pass in 3G only when it is necessary. Thus, I have:
- phoneAlarm: to force the 2G mode the night, and also for differ quiet mode if I am in meeting, etc…. In particular, in the case which interests me there, I force the 2G the night and asks to pass to 2G the morning.
- WMlonglife (version for HD2): which normally loads himself to make the effective switch 2G towards 3G or 3G+ if an application program requiring it is launched, and otherwise to remain in 2G. It should be noted that WMlonglife has two applis, one for the configuration, and to make manually changes 2G 3G, WMbandswitch.
- recently, I tested Bandswitch v2.8
I meet the following phenomena, and I would like to know if others also have them, and/or if there are parameters to change so that it goes better.
Point A: Already some question about the icons of the bar of state in top.
There are always two icons side by side. Tell me if I interpret them well.
one with a letter: G= GSM, E= Edge, 3G = 3G, H = 3G+
This letter tellsonly that this kind of network is available, but it does not say that one is actually connected there. Is it well that?
To know in which mode one is actually connected, it is another icon, on its line, with the 1 to 4 bars of reception and a small letter, which should be looked at.
This small letter, it is “H " ==> connected in 3G+, “3G” ==> connected in 3G, “E” ==> connected in Edge
and finally a simple antenna, which I imagine wants to say that one is just connected in 2G, no data connection
Is what all that is correct?
Is there another mean of knowing in real-time the current mode of connexion (and thus mode of conso of the accumulator)?
Point B, use of Phonealarm:
like said in introduction, I force the 2G (mode GSM/GPRS) during the night, and to 6:00 of the morning, I pass it in mode “house” where I put “Car”, by also putting the pin number at it, because it seems that for this transition, one needs the pin number (is it the radio cycle on-off?)
There, the first thing, they is that every morning, when I unlock it I find myself with the screen for input of the pin number, where it is enough to make cancel (because the code already entered via PA and even already connected). Moreover, if one tries to enter a pin number, then he refuses the input.
on the other hand, at this time, the telephone seems to remain in Edge icon “E”, and does not pass in H. On the other hand, so there I reset, then he will connect to H with the boot
Have you also this history of pin number?
For hangs, it is as if WMlonglife did not take the hand to force a 3G mode or 3G+….
this brings me to the point C
Point C: WMbandswitch… after a software reset, my Tel. is connected automatically towards the 3G network (or 3G+) of orange. On the other hand the morning (after to automatic wake up through PA), it remains in E. When I test action manually a passage in 3G with WMbandswitch, it does not change anything. I tested with radio operator chip on Samsung, or Qualcomm (WCDMA). similar behavior….
To check out, I then loaded and installed Bandswitch 2.8, and tried to change into 3G, and there I see appearing the letter H. so, there is a difference with WMlonglife, which would seem to show that WMlonglife does not manage to make the switch towards 3G.
Which radio chip put in WMlonglife?
Have you to it even thing?
Poind D: use of bandswitch 2.8 (on xda): I tested. Hard to know if that is interfaced well with all the remainder. Of your experiment, which one would you advise? It does not have the system of “whitelist” like WMlonglife…
Here is, in synthesis, to summarise my questions
- Has: major significance of the icons
- B: phonealarm and switch of the 3G mode (after a forcing in 2G the night)
- C: WMbandswitch, and configuration/use for HD2
- D: alternative to WMlonglife?
For info, with normal use of browsing, email and phone, I drop of about 50% battery for 24h, that is not so bad, but I 'd like to make sure about the Bandswitch thing...
Thank you in advance for all…
vdelab
Bought my Xperia just over a month ago, and installed juicedefender and juiceplotter to help manage my power use.
At first, I did the whole charging cycle thing, and managed to get battery life up to nearly 20 hours after a week! In the past few weeks however, my phone barely lasts 10 hours now...the battery dies before I can get a chance to recharge. I am a heavy user, but that doesn't seem to explain the sudden drop in battery capacity.
Because of the drop in power over the last few weeks, I have set EVERYTHING to not update, and google sync has been set to sync every other day.
Will my battery just continue to get worse? or do I have a faulty battery?
don't get me wrong, I love my new phone...I just need to know if this is a typical problem, or if I need to get a new battery.
Thanks!
Hi - I'm getting about 40 hours out of mine.. I tend to switch mobile data off when I'm at home as I use wifi.. the problem seems mainly to lie with 3G.. so when I'm out and about I switch wifi off and mobile data on.. but I tend to keep to 2G (GSM) for background syncing etc.. and switch 3G(GSM/WCDMA preferred) on when I want to do any active stuff.. like internet browsing of using the XDA app... I also have my Wifi sleep policy set to "sleep when screen is off"..
What do you use your phone for? if you can tell me a bit about how your using your handset I might be able to give you some more specific advice.
Thanks for the fast reply!
I use juice defender to switch off 3G when the screen is off. It connects every 15 minutes, could that be the issue?
I've looked for a way to switch to GSM, but I can't seem to do it with my carrier(don't have the option in my settings).
I use a lot of data, up to 3 gigs per month 3G only(on average). 4 or 5 calls a day, and probably 100 texts per day. I keep my screen at around 25% brightness.
If you can't switch to GSM then maybe try switching mobile data off all together when you're not using it..(when travelling etc)... (far from ideal I know!).. but it might help.. I think that the 3G radio isn't sleeping properly.. the new software update which is due out anytime now MIGHT solve it.. but only if you're either on an unbranded handset (sound like you're not) or your carrier pushes the update through to you...
The other things you can try is to switch off "Search for updates automatically" in the phone settings... and switch of determine location by wireless networks (in the location settings menu)..
There was a thread about auto brightness causing constant cpu drain, leaving it autobrightness is thought to be battery kind`er.
Ive stopped using task managers and just use default android control and its good for my battery. I check the ram availability occasionaly and though it gets down to around 30 or 40 or meg it shows no slowdowns or hangups but I do reboot after charging every other night.
I'm experiencing similar behavior: poor, then good, then poor, then good again, of course with similar usage. I don't use any task killer and have 3G always on. I have tried 3 different batteries: the stock one, the one from my X1, and the 1800 mAh from Mugen: same pattern with every battery.
I definitely think that there's something bad in the design of the power circuitry and/or in the kernel.
Hello,
I have been following these forums for a couple months now, and wow I am impressed. I love this community. I feel like I haven't contributed yet, so I started this thread. Below are my phone specs and my battery success. If this helps you, great! If you can contribute to this thread with your success, please do. If a similar thread is around, let me know; I don't want to take up extra space if I don't need to. My primary goal is for people to share their specs, usage, and battery life with Android. I had my brightness on high and 3g, GPS, and sync on (things you would normally want on all day). Peace!
Specs:
Leo - T-Mobile version
SD - 16GB class 4 (not sure brand, doesn't say)
Radio - 2.12.50.02_2
ROM - 28/7/10 Elegancia V 1.0 Final, Max Sense (T-Mobile version, if there is a difference?)
Android- 03/08/10 shubCRAFT CM6RC2/Froyo/Themed V1.1
Kernel - Cotulla 2.6.32.9#103
Info:
Unplugged at 07:30 am with 100%
Immediately checked email/XDA app for any updates (yep, I'm lame)
Standby for about an hour
Music/web browsing on Train to work (30 min)
Standby for 3 hours
Video playback during break (20 min)
Standby for 5 hours
Music/web browsing on Train home (30 min)
Home for about 3 hours with mix of standby/web browsing
9:10 pm - 15% warning (close to 15 hrs)
I stopped at 15%, because that is my "safety zone" for normal usage.
Anyone else care to share similar stories?
Before sleep yesterday, i have 97% battery, but when i wake up today, the battery left 47% :S 6hours drain 50% battery life only in stanby!!
when i checked background for what was running, Nothing..... maybe the android's screen is off, just it's not really sleep..
Hey guys, it's totaly normal, the actual HD2-Android roms are RC's, these problems will get fixed, just be patient.
My battery expirience:
8:30 - took from charging at 97% and went to work
normal use @ work (sms, googletalk, twitter and facebook)
15:00 - 15% warning
its about half the time from my windows rom, i think at current state of development it ist totaly OK.
And if you use SetCPU you can get a 1% discharge per hour in standby mode, if set up correctly
And what Waldemotor said, it's still in development.
Powermanagment isn't fully functioning, yet.
patience young grasshopper
5:40pm 100% when leaving work, started listening to music
5:55pm Standby for train ride
6:45pm Listening to music
7pm: Stopped listening to music
7-10pm: bit of xda app, checking my ps3 friends to decide whether to play MW2, showed the kids a couple of games
10pm-7am: Standby
7:40am-7:55 - Music before train
7:55-8:45 - Standby
8:45-9am Music
And here I am 09:35 and I have 30% battery left.
maseo said:
And if you use SetCPU you can get a 1% discharge per hour in standby mode, if set up correctly
And what Waldemotor said, it's still in development.
Powermanagment isn't fully functioning, yet.
patience young grasshopper
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I'm with Darkstone Froyo 1.1 and i sync:
Gmail (push)
Exchange Mail, Calendar Contacts) every hour
Facebook every 2h
Twitter every 2h
I use SetCpu set to 245/245 profile screen off and 998/245 standard profile
I also Use
Juice Defender (paid version from market) :
With this i can plan usage of WIFI/3G :
- U can choose from push up to 5mn every 2h, i don't plan
- U can disable during night my night is from 22h to 7h
- disable if battery under 15%
- enable when i use choosed application in a list form exmple email, browser ... (keep disable elsewhere)
- U can choose automatically enable when screen is ON i don't : i prefer enable with application
Note: it's possible to control CPU too but i don't .. i think setcpu is better
- Wifi may be auto disabled when there's no access point near u
Estrong Task manager
- With this i kill all application except a choosen list when screen is off
GPS is always Disabled
With theses applications and settings i can get:
0% lost during night
and during day, my battery life depends on how much i use applications with 3G or Wifi and ... over all how much i phone
Note :
I've same conf on my Htc Hero ... (Android 2.1 hect sense) my battery life is almost 3 days
With HD2 desire V5 results are not so good
So i recommend :
Darkstone Froyo 1.1 (waiting for next build)
Wirh SetCPU, Juicedefender (paid version on market), and Estrong task manager
JuiceDefender has a free version but wiyh less options but u can try it
U can control battery JuicePlotter : it draws a graph for ur battery consumption and temperature telling u if wifi or APN were enabled.
Hope my contribution will be useful for some people
A+
Jpq
Went to work with a full 100% battery, did a bit of webbrowsing and texting. It was down to 30% within about three hours.
But I'm not fussed. As it's been said, it's still in its infancy. I've done nothing to try and amend it (SetCPU etc). I just have everything running on default settings.
When things drop so far though, I just switch back to Windows if I'm not near a charger.
My 2 cents on the matter
I own an HD2 since last Friday, I think. I found out that it can run Android and I wanted to test it. I spent an entire day with the Android. I started with a full battery, but I browsed the market, installed a lot of applications, listened to some music, even played a few avi files. The battery is drained faster than on WinMobile, but just like it was pointed out here, Android is still in development. The main idea is that I used it a lot and the battery was almost drained in 9 hours (I also stop around 15% too). I used Darkstone Froyo 2.1 build (Dan1j3ls Froyo V1).
- zImage 3/8, Dan1j3ls Froyo V1 (without Sense)
- setCPU enabled (always ondemand between 245 - 998)
- Yesterday 7 am - unplugged with 100 %
- Sync enabled with 3G over the day, some web browsing and playing around all day, measuring
- *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone info -> Menu -> set frequency band to Euro band, afterwards the constant 2G/3G flapping disappeared, switch to 2G only happens, when no more 3G available
- 11:30 pm went to bed, disabled Data overnight -> 50% left.
- Woke up this morning 8 am with several alarms ringing -> still 41% battery left.
With little usage good two days possible!
foxcheng said:
Before sleep yesterday, i have 97% battery, but when i wake up today, the battery left 47% :S 6hours drain 50% battery life only in stanby!!
when i checked background for what was running, Nothing..... maybe the android's screen is off, just it's not really sleep..
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I left mine at 98% before going to bed and 8 hours later (yes, I slept that long) there was 78% left...
I'm on MattC's build, German Vodafone Stock Rom (1.72...) and 2.10.._2 Radio.
SetCPU activ and Exchange checking for mails every hour...
However, I'm not sure if 20% or 2,5% per hour is good or bad
u can globally underclock ur cpu for better effect, I run mine at 80% clock (main profile)
Im now on my 3rd day of using mattc v1.4.
1st day battery life was SHOCKING (as to be 'expected' (can you expect a shock???) for a RC running off an SD card).
I probably got about 4 hours heavy use from 100% to 10%.
2nd day I set up SetCPU with profiles for 'screen off' and <25% battery, disabled all data except wifi, disabled gps (tried juice defender but didnt find it useful as I never really use mobile data anyways). LEFT SCREEN AT 100% BRIGHTNESS!
This ^^^ helped with battery drain a lot and stopped the huge drain i was getting while the phone/screen was asleep.
BUT on day 2 I got a WEIRD problem:
Tried to set a pattern for unlocking - Put phone to sleep and rewoke to test lock.
The screen came on almost all white with my home screen barely visible underneath the white 'vail'.
I shutdown android and booted into WM6.5.x.
THE WEIRD THING IS THAT BEFORE THE 'CRASH' MY BATTERY SHOWED 49% BUT AFTER A REBOOT IT SHOWED 14%!
Multiple restarts into winmo and android still showed 14%/13%! WTF? I had to start charging again from there.
Now the HD2 wont charge past 91% (in android), untested in WM. I unplugged the USB and replugged numerous times - still wouldnt charge past 91%.
Left on charge overnight (android) and still at 91 this morning.
Been using it quite heavily ~3 hrs on and ~1 in standby today with lots of wifi and batt has gone from 91 to 76%.
ONLY LOSING 0.5 PER HOUR in standby now.
So basically, my battery is going nuts lol.
But so far I'm more than happy with it (considering it running from sd etc etc).
To all devs working on android builds - THANK YOU and keep up the good work.
Anyone else had any battery anomolies like mine?
I also experienced wrong loading behaviour, or maybe it's just the percentage showing wrong.
The following helped for me: Reboot into Windows Mobile, there the battery loading status was display correctly as 100% (also with the status LED glowing green constantly). Then with loading cable still plugged in, boot Android, then in Android the percentage reading was correct again.
really offtopic but anyone care to share how do you choose what to run in the background and what not? I use the task killer app but I kill the apps and they just reapear without me starting them.
thanks for sharing brothers!
can anyone comment on the battery life/consumption with this latest kernal and 384+ RAM ?
im using zimage 08/03 right now with Darkstone froyo v1 and my battery life is pretttty bad...
it will go from "93%" (full, it wont charge over), to about 25% in 4.5 hours..
and this is making NO phone calls and on standby. I have setCPU with the settings from the other thread too
just trying to figure out a good solution
I'm using the CM6 froyo.
Without setcpu and without the Aug 3 zimage, my battery drain was about 12% an hour on standby.
Now, with the Aug3 zimage and setcpu, I have about 6% battery drain per hour on standby.
Win mo: stock Tmo-US ROM. 2.08 radio. (both stock). 16GB class 2 MicroSD.
I always make sure I charge when phone is either off, or in winmo. I never charge the battery on android. I don't yet trust the android kernel enough to charge my battery correctly.
5%/h in standby problem
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Im now on my 3rd day of using mattc v1.4.
Anyone else had any battery anomolies like mine?
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Yes.
Not matter what I do, and whatever distribution I'm using there is huge battery drain in stanby mode (~5%/h). I changed ROM, radio, android version (mattc, darkstone, ...). Even used winmo registry tricks.
HD2 (eu), ROM Energy, checked mattc v1.5, shubCRAFT 1.3, NexusLeo v1, ...
But there was a time I had very good results - like 1%/h in standby. Do not know what changed (except changing Android ditribution very often). The other users (a lots of them) has 1-1,5%/h in standby mode, so I'm sure it is possible. There is some kind of setting/mistake or something to discover. For now Android (even running form SD) is capable to have as good "battery results" as winmo.
I will try
- charging in winmo only
- sd format or using another microsd card
- clean Android (without data and additional software)
cw-data said:
- zImage 3/8, Dan1j3ls Froyo V1 (without Sense)
- setCPU enabled (always ondemand between 245 - 998)
- Yesterday 7 am - unplugged with 100 %
- Sync enabled with 3G over the day, some web browsing and playing around all day, measuring
- *#*#4636#*#* -> Phone info -> Menu -> set frequency band to Euro band, afterwards the constant 2G/3G flapping disappeared, switch to 2G only happens, when no more 3G available
- 11:30 pm went to bed, disabled Data overnight -> 50% left.
- Woke up this morning 8 am with several alarms ringing -> still 41% battery left.
With little usage good two days possible!
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same case for me as little usage (sync email few times a day manually, play few songs for kids, little browsing and market). 2 days with batteryminder. ~ 50% since last charged 1 day ago.
The one that making real different for me is when I used GSM auto (PRL) (in *#*#4636#*#*).
Also auto turn to airplane mode 11:30pm-7:00am for me.
I also applied the sdcard registry changes in winmo. seems this will take some effect also.
Post best Setting for battery life
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Yes.
But there was a time I had very good results - like 1%/h in standby. Do not know what changed (except changing Android ditribution very often). The other users (a lots of them) has 1-1,5%/h in standby mode, so I'm sure it is possible. There is some kind of setting/mistake or something to discover. For now Android (even running form SD) is capable to have as good "battery results" as winmo.
I will try
- charging in winmo only
- sd format or using another microsd card
- clean Android (without data and additional software)
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The solution was to
1. I did battery calibration (not sure this task was really necessery) and checked winmo battery drain - to make sure battery is not broken by Android. No, it didn't
2. Charge battery to fulll on WinMo (or turned phone off), boot Android then remove /data/system/batterystats.bin .
Use this commands from Android Terminal (free).
su
rm /data/system/batterystats.bin
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3. Restart Android (in that moment I had expected 1%/h drain) and use battery till it come empty
Thats all.
Propably, after many android switches (new distribution tests) the battery stats was broken - collected partially in different Android version.
Then finally, after 1 week with 5%/h battery drain problem in standby I have 1%/h in standby again. I think it is standard drain in haret.exe version.
I keep reading about this new improved battery life with Gingerbread, however I've found the opposite.
By the time I leave off work, my battery is typically at about 84%, that's with no usage all day. Today is the first time at work I've been running Gingerbread, I'm only half way through the day and my battery is already at 69%, if it keeps draining at this rate, it's going to be down to about 30-40% by the time I've left off!
Did you do a factory reset ? It helped me a lot, i'm at 4 days 6 hours with 16% battery remaining.
Also check if you aren't scanning for wifi 24/7.
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I keep reading about this new improved battery life with Gingerbread, however I've found the opposite.
By the time I leave off work, my battery is typically at about 84%, that's with no usage all day. Today is the first time at work I've been running Gingerbread, I'm only half way through the day and my battery is already at 69%, if it keeps draining at this rate, it's going to be down to about 30-40% by the time I've left off!
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Have you checked what application is draining the battery?
Google
I had dreadful battery life and discovered that Latitude was polling constantly and also Google Talk.
Make sure you sign out of both and see if it makes a difference.
... and disable "Tell HTC" service, it'll help as well.
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... and disable "Tell HTC" service, it'll help as well.
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Disable? with force close?
Right, I've disabled Tell HTC, signed out of Google Talk and made sure it doesn't sign in automatically. I've also signed out of Latitude.
The top four things listed on the battery usage are:
- Display = 34%
- Wi-Fi = 15%
- Android System = 13%
- Dialer = 13%
All others are pretty much under 10%.
I'd rather avoid doing a factory reset due to the amount of information and length of time it's taken me to get everything set up. However, I made the mistake of thinking that Wifi wouldn't be used if mobile network was on. My plan was that I would then connect straight away to Wifi when I was at home, and when it lost the signal it would switch to my mobile network. Well, this seems to work fine, however obviously as shown above, it's still using a fair bit of battery. I think I'll just start turned Wifi off completely until I'm going to use it.
For enabling/disabling wifi i use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sas.inappwifitoggle . Long press search key and it gets enabled or disabled.
- Display = 44%
- Wi-Fi = 15%
- Android System = 23%
- Dialer = 23%
I use greenpower realy great app I'm running Gingerbread and I'm getting nearly 2days out of my DHD
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For enabling/disabling wifi i use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sas.inappwifitoggle . Long press search key and it gets enabled or disabled.
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Cool, looks like a handy program to have!
Check out this thread about the Dialer issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069251
My battery life hasn't improved either.
With moderate to heavy use I get about 6-7 hours only. My brightness is usually set at 30%
Display - 69%
Dialer - 8%
Cell standby and others - 4% and less
Is this normal?
Could you give us some more information here ? I mean what type of system are you using, Stock, or some type of ROM ?
I'm running LeeDroid's latest ROM, 2.3.3 and have Green Power installed so data gets turned off when my screen is off.
Auto-sync is turned off too.
In regards to mail, twitter syncing I set mine to every 6 - 12 hours.
I have had gingerbread RUU for 1 week now. With Froyo I used to get 15-30 hours depnding on wether I used 3g or Wifi(Wifi more conservative of battery). Since GB update my maximum battery lasts for 12 hours. I have noticed severe battery drain uder WiFi. Previously with 2.2 with the phoned switched off at night with Wifi enabled, the battery would drain approx 7% in 7 hours. Well today I did the same test switched off phone,left wifi enabled and the battery dropped from 90% to 46% in 7 hours which equates to 7% an hour with the screen off!
This is unacceptable! I sent HTC an email to expalin this but all I got was list of ways to reduce battery life such as swich off wifi, move to 2g, switth off live wallpaper etc etc. But all of this is absolutely of no use if the battery is draining at 7% an hour with the screen off. As I mentioned before with 2.2 the wifi drainage was small approx 1% with screen off.
Can someone suggest a solution?
1)Should I contact HTC again?
2)Try a custom ROM?
I havent tried a custom rom yet as the phone has been runnning well minus poor battery but I may have to if a solution cannot be found.
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I have had gingerbread RUU for 1 week now. With Froyo I used to get 15-30 hours depnding on wether I used 3g or Wifi(Wifi more conservative of battery). Since GB update my maximum battery lasts for 12 hours. I have noticed severe battery drain uder WiFi. Previously with 2.2 with the phoned switched off at night with Wifi enabled, the battery would drain approx 7% in 7 hours. Well today I did the same test switched off phone,left wifi enabled and the battery dropped from 90% to 46% in 7 hours which equates to 7% an hour with the screen off!
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I noticed the same drain as well when I updated, but after a few days of testing I found that the problem was with one of my apps widgets. My guess is that the app is not efficient on gingerbread.
After removing the widget, everything was fine again.
To sum it up, check your apps.
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I found that the problem was with one of my apps widgets. My guess is that the app is not efficient on gingerbread.
After removing the widget, everything was fine again.
To sum it up, check your apps.
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when you say check your apps what are you using to find out whats running what.
Also how do i know what i can stop without making other things crash on me
for example. i do not use my sense account so can I shut dwn all things to do with sense that are running without risk?
I had the issue with battery life too. Just get the wifi switch on your homepage and turn off if you're not using it. Otherwise it constantly scans and leaches your battery.
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i just switched to 2.3.3 and its fine, try another rom.
Hey there, I really have on problem with my N4 since I own it:
From time to time my battery drain just goes huge. For me it feels like that is everytime I go out and have my phone in my jeans pocket. So at some point I thought I would press the button to active the display all the time.. but thats not happening (according to GSAM Battery Monitor).
I had all 4.2.x stock ROMS + stock Kernel and also with Franco Kernel. I always had this problem from time to time.
Signal is there, there is no significant battery drain from any app. The % of each app is normal and I also dont use any app more than usually. I don't have new apps.. everything is like always. Still my battery goes from 100% to 0% withint ~ 6 hours (30 mins SOT).
Any ideas? My battery is at 47-50 Celsius, the cores go offline as they are supposed to. I tried reboots in between e.g. in case an app is bugging. But actually all apps are as usual :/
Thanks
@edit: it also happens when the phone is on my table.. i just had it with 17% left on my table, didnt touch it.. after 30 mins it was off because the battery was empty. wtf ?
The biggest battery suckers are radios and the screen. I turn off wifi, GPS and BT whenever I'm not using them. Keep a short timeout for the screen.
Unfortunately, six hours doesn't sound too far off from normal if you've got things running. I'd go through an entire battery cycle watching a 2-hour 1080p movie. Overnight, my battery dropped about 15% while only bluetooth and GSM were on. The N4 isn't really known for good battery life :\
BT is off. In general my battery holds up one day without any problems. But sometimes it goes down within a few hours and I dont know why.
Possibly a scheduled background service? Maybe Google Sync is pushing a whole bunch of data periodically?
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Possibly a scheduled background service? Maybe Google Sync is pushing a whole bunch of data periodically?
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Hmm no not really. Also, it would happen every day or in some interval. Not just on random days?
besides that I dont use any syncing and also it would be shown in the GSAM Battery Monitor or general battery usage ?
I dare not say I'm a professional in battery saving, but I did break the 8 hour SOT on N4(minimum brightness of course).
Let's see, I only use 2G, because I only need internet for Whatsapp, and I greenify every single other apps.
You might undervolted too much according to your signature. -200mv might reduce heat but consume 1.2-1.5x more battery than normal voltage, its hard to explain, but its the truth, try -150 then -100.
Since you're on Franco, reduce the vibration a little, as for scheduler, I personally prefer Deadline on 2048. Governor definitely interactive, and freqs at 1.2Ghz. Because personally I dare-say at 1.2 Ghz you can run most apps almost instantly.
Like the second post said, Off wifi, GPS and bluetooth. Under settings > location settings> one is GPS and another is google location, off both. And you might still even have NFC on? No idea in this.
Download an app called build.prop editor or kernel tuner.
Modify build.prop a little. Add in pm.sleep_mode=1 and change the value of wifi.supplicant_scan_interval to 600 or 900.
Disable auto brightness and fix to something you like but below 50% .
I am not on -200 anymore.. -100 all the time
i also use greenify for nearly all my apps.
GPS, BT is turned off, Wifi normally too (tasker is doing that, depening on GSM antenna reachable or not).
The other tips are really nice but should affect the battery drain THAT much ?
Thanks !
As a little update:
It seems like this only happens at certain locations ?!
E.g. at work.. everything disabled (wifi, BT, gps, etc) .. even Tasker is disabled incase it was bugging -> about 10% for 30 minutes.
I have full connection bar to my carrier.. what the hell is that ? Battery temps are normal, same apps running as I had running when I was at home. I don't even use the phone but as soon as I get to work and my phone gets a carrier signal, the battery graph shows a rapid drop.
19:34 - 61%
20:03 - 54%
20:20 - 48%
20:54 - 38%
21:20 - 31%
Battery sitting at 37 Celsius... why.. why why ? :S
Alright now I know when my battery is crashing:
as soon as I turn off and I connect to my carrier. but why? Normally it should be exactly the other way. When WiFi is on and connect, the battery drain should become higher.
But as soon as I leave a WiFi, my phone gets hot and looses A LOT of battery very quickly.
Any ideas ? I have full signal.. but in any case.. I have the same signal as I also when while connected to Wifi.
e.g. at home with wifi - good battery life. but as soon as I turn the wifi off -> battery loss !