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Check it out , from minute 1:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxeFQ6U4uRM&feature=player_embedded
The iPhone 4 does the same,i wonder what is the reason for that...
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The iPhone 4 does the same,i wonder what is the reason for that...
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i read about the iphone doing the same but i have no clue
ya read that too on gsmarena.. hope they fix it by release time.
It isn't a really terrible issue,but i can't help but keep wondering what's the reason for that zoom.
It wasn't solved on iphone 4 so i guess there's a "deep and technical" reason beyond that.
Maybe the 1080p doesn't divide well into the 8 megapixel camera for easy conversion, so they make the viewable area slightly smaller so it is a nice multiple of the 1080p, because the processor can't handle the load otherwise. Shot in the dark.
Could it be that you can't display a full 1920x1080 video in a 800x480 screen?
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MikeyMike01 said:
Could it be that you can't display a full 1920x1080 video in a 800x480 screen?
Sent from my Captivate.
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i doubt it because you cannot display full 720p either ie 1280x720 but it doesnt crop/zoom that image when you video record..
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The iPhone 4 does the same,i wonder what is the reason for that...
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No it doesnt. Double tap your screen and it zooms out.
MikeyMike01 said:
Could it be that you can't display a full 1920x1080 video in a 800x480 screen?
Sent from my Captivate.
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Naturally it is so and also logical !
How should a 800 x 480 pixel screen show full resolution of 1080 p ? It is not possible physically. Only via HML on the TV-screen You will have full HD res.
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Naturally it is so and also logical !
How should a 800 x 480 pixel screen show full resolution of 1080 p ? It is not possible physically. Only via HML on the TV-screen You will have full HD res.
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but how can it display 1280x720?
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but how can it display 1280x720?
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1) Scale 1280x720 to 800x480, in which case you get an aspect ratio error of 1% which is more than acceptable.
2) Scale 1280x720 to 800x450 and pad the rest with black bars.
Is that what was asked?
For comparison purposes, my Captivate does this also. 720x480 is zoomed; 1280x720 is zoomed further.
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1) Scale 1280x720 to 800x480, in which case you get an aspect ratio error of 1% which is more than acceptable.
2) Scale 1280x720 to 800x450 and pad the rest with black bars.
Is that what was asked?
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450? did you watch the video? the problem seems to be only in 1080p and as far i know 720p and 1080p have the same aspect ratio
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450? did you watch the video? the problem seems to be only in 1080p and as far i know 720p and 1080p have the same aspect ratio
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450 because it will be the same AR. Anyway, apologies. I should have read further back to see what the actual problem behind the discussion was.
Do we know the reason for this? All of the retail units are doing it.
Its simply a lower viewing angle at higher resolutions, its not that uncommon on video recording devices.
not sure I understand?
The youtube video in the OP shows RECORDING, not playback, right?
When it records in 1080p, the screen shows a zoomed in picture.
This is because the phone cannot take raw 1920x1080 video stream from the camera, and at the same time be encoding it as 1080p and saving it to memory, and downscaling that raw 1920x1080 stream to 800x480 to display on screen. This phone is powerful, but not that powerful. Or maybe that youtube video was of not final software.
Yes it's zoomed, and that's a hack to make it possible to record 1080p.
They've basically just cut off the pixels on the side, and are using 1920x1080 pixels from the centre of the camera's sensor.
This way, it doesn't have to process the "extra" pixels on the side, do pixel binning etc. The sensor is decent enough that 1080p still looks crisp at native res.
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Yes it's zoomed, and that's a hack to make it possible to record 1080p.
They've basically just cut off the pixels on the side, and are using 1920x1080 pixels from the centre of the camera's sensor.
This way, it doesn't have to process the "extra" pixels on the side, do pixel binning etc. The sensor is decent enough that 1080p still looks crisp at native res.
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Ahh that is what they were showing Makes sense, just like the iP4 then - thanks for the explanation.
Hi, I recorded my first video for test, and uploaded to youtube.
I used max. camera resolution setting.
After upload on yt, video is nice quality but narrow, not full screen, like strip in middle witch video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3423KZp3EYY
How can I make it full screen? witch good vid. quality?
What settings?
Other question is how i should keep my phone when filming? horizontal or vertical ?
cuz its gives me some funny staff as well.
Thanks for help
You should keep your phone horizontal while you record video. That way you will get video that fills the screen and is wide screen.
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Watching random vids on skyrim tonight and came across this one. Noticed the weird letter box affect i was getting than noticed it's actually " full screen" screen shot for proof and video link also.. What are everyone's thoughts on why this happens and how to make it do it all the time.
Many old youtube videos i can watch at full screen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNwWkNBOqIg
For example, this one was uploaded when Youtube introduced new aspect ratio 7 years ago.
There are many videos in this 2:1 aspect ratio though.
18:9 videos and wider formats (21:9 for instance) are displayed full screen on the G6, but only if they are properly encoded format-wise. Many are not, unfortunately.
16:9 clips appear with vertical bars, that's how it's supposed to be, unless you fancy picture distortions. But YouTube doesn't allow any right now.
Theres an update coming soon to Youtube and it's supposedly adding proper 18:9 playback and 1080+1440p 60fps support.
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Theres an update coming soon to Youtube and it's supposedly adding proper 18:9 playback and 1080+1440p 60fps support.
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Yeah I knew that was coming with the note 8 and the gs8 having the same display and possibly the iPhone. Just really hope it doesn't include letterbox. I mean even our phones don't record 18:9 , 2:1 so the video player is stretching them to fill the screen. Minimal loss of quality never noticeable
Using latest version of YouTube (v12.25.54) but no option for displaying 18:9 format
Sent from my LG G6 (H870)
Strange s7 edge support 4k 60fps videos on youtube but our g6 can't.
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Strange s7 edge support 4k 60fps videos on youtube but our g6 can't.
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No it doesn't 1440 at max! Sorry to break it to ya
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No it doesn't 1440 at max! Sorry to break it to ya
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Sorry i didn't get it,which one you trying to say?
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Sorry i didn't get it,which one you trying to say?
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You said the edge supports 4k at 60fps. Which is false assuming you're talking about youtube playback resolutions.
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You said the edge supports 4k at 60fps. Which is false assuming you're talking about youtube playback resolutions.
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My bad!what i want to says 2k not 4k.
Btw my complain is still valid g6 don't support 2k at 60fps.
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG V30 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.
Seeing as there are only pre-production unites with non-final software available, I would think it's a little premature to comment on any aspect of the phone including video quality.
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The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.
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Do you own the device or you judge only by the review in Internet?
Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.
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Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.
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Manual mode in V20 let you choose as high as 64Mbit bitrate, kut not auto mode though.
What I'd like to know is if there's 3rd party app in PlayMarket that's capable to store UHD 4K video directly in H.265 HEVC format?
SD Spectre is definitely capable of H265 compressing AFAIK
Game of Thrones’ Cinematographer Shot This Homemade Movie on LG’s V30 Phone
http://www.adweek.com/creativity/ga...er-shot-this-homemade-movie-on-lgs-v30-phone/
They're really doing a bang up job in pushing the video quality of the V30. Want to see how it does against a Red Weapon camera? Sure you do!
https://youtu.be/nAth8g05tfs
Hey guys,
it's possible shooting 120-240 fps with full hd?
Thanks
This video was taken on the LG V30, model H933, not that any of the cameras are any different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_MnzeG3PCo
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can it capture the 4k 60fps video ? codec is h.264 or h.265 ?
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30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.
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30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.
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I hope the rooted LG V30 should have QHD 60fps (2k video recording) like the Samsung Galaxy S8/Note 8 camera mod!
FYI, from a Phone Arena Q&A article about the LG V30:
LG V30 Q&A: Your questions answered!
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V30-Q-A-Your-questions-answered_id99088
The rear snapper is capable of shooting in the following modes and aspects in Auto video mode:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Cine video mode, which is the one that allows you to pre-apply various cinematic filters and use the Point Zoom feature, you can shoot in the following modes:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Manual video mode, where all the fun stuff is, the phone shoots in the following aspects and formats:
16:9 UHD [email protected], 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 FHD Cinema [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 HD [email protected], 60, 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps.
As far as slo-mo is concerned, you get [email protected] slo-mo, which is now a standard among flagships devices.
The front-facing camera maxes out at:
16:9 FHD 1920x1080
18:9 HD 1440x720
16:9 HD 1280x720.
Video quality is excellent and is definitely geared towards your regular aspiring cinematographer.
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There's other answers to questions in that article, so feel free to go read it in its entirety.
^That article isn't exactly true. While if you are just digging around in the menus looking for frame rates, all you will see is that the fastest listed is [email protected] But if you use the actual mode option listed as Slo-mo then you get 240fps. They were lazy and didn't do their research.
I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8
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I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/initial-camera-observations-t3685747/page5
Use the youtube links and not the embedded videos. No idea why the embedded stopped working.
And I should note that those videos were made in a bar where they keep the volume at a level that trips the Receiver As Mic. That doesn't come on until 120 decibels. The RAM was tripped right from the start.
here's my sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Un4M7gW1QQ
really disappointed with all the shaking from the ois / camera. google seems to turn up quite a few results for this issue. Seems no one has mentioned it here though. here's the video I made entirely with the V30 Cine mode.. really not happy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HDo_noiR7c
I get pixelated sky (and any other surfaces with gradient) when shooting in 4k (any bitrate, any camera app)
The solution is h265/HEVC
I checked a lot of reviews on YouTube before buying the phone and their videos don't seem to have this pixelation.
Can somebody shoot a 4k video of the sky with default camera app and do some movements while recording?
I would like to know if it's a wide spread issue or my phone is faulty.
My device model: LG-AS998
i have serious problems with in-video audio quality, especially in the manual mode, with hi-fi setting. on softer sounds it has a weird "compression artifact" like stuttering, although its lossless audio.
this is the mode that sohuld be ok for semi-professional videos according to the ads and phone blogger, but its absolutely not!
so a kinda mediocre video quality that promises great audio to make up for it, but it doesnt deliver.
I made a post about this in QA with samples.
There is pretty clear what I talk about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/weird-audio-stutter-video-quality-sound-t3919793
it would be nice if someone reacted to this who also tried to use this phone for vlogging, making videos for editing etc.
I saw it mentioned in a review, but I don't see a reason this should happen. I know this phone model vs the Mi 9 or the 9T Pro doesn't support 4K @60fps due to CPU capabilities, and for costs' sake the coupled image sensor is also a similar version which nominally identical to the Mi 9's sensor other than not supporting 4K @60fps (lower bandwidth on the image sensor's processor?). The 1080p resolution is also nominally a bit truncated due to this, with 240fps slow motion only being supported at 720fps (and 1080p going up to only 120fps), but I don't understand what's up with the pixelated quality?
With 1080p @30fps, there is no such pixelation, and zooming in even x5 keeps a pretty decent quality with no such rough pixelation. I'm not sure if the phone knows how to adjust the number of pixels used out of the entire sensor while digitally zooming instead of stretching the rendered image, but even if it's only digital crop-and-stretch, at 30fps it at the very least uses a decent filter that smoothes square pixelation.
I can see when using 60fps that the image view is slightly zoomed in, meaning it probably uses a bit less pixels out of the entire available sensor, but it's a very small difference which doesn't match the severity of the actual effect, and again — it doesn't even try to smooth the pixelation. At 120fps the pixelation is even worse.
I suppose having a higher possible bottleneck might secure more consistent performance at lower settings (so perhaps in some aspects you could expect a phone rated to capture at up to 1080p @240fps to perform better at 60fps than a phone only rated to capture at up to 1080fps @120fps), but what's going on in this case doesn't seem reasonable.
So what's your take on this? Should this issue be fixable through software update?
post a sample of video you are talking about please
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post a sample of video you are talking about please
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There's no need for a full video, even. Here are a few screenshots from recorded videos in different settings:
At 30fps, no zoom:
https://i.ibb.co/XjmqxHr/FHD30fps.png
At 30fps with X5 zoom:
https://i.ibb.co/yd6pMBs/FHD30fps-Zoom-X5.png
At 60fps, no zoom. Here you can already see some blocky pixelation along fine lines if you pay attention:
https://i.ibb.co/pL6PTkc/FHD60fps.png
At 60fps with X3 zoom. As you can see it doesn't even try to filter the upscaling, so you just end up with blocks of cubic pixels:
https://i.ibb.co/cLNcxzK/FHD60fps-Zoom-X3.png
I can definitely see the pixelation you are talking about, but is it in video itself or the pixelation is because of the video player you are using? Thats why I told you to post the original video.
Also what rom are you using?
same for my device,it has that pixelation on 1080p 60fps recording.
playing it on pc vlc or mpc-hc have it too.
was waiting for someone to create a thread about it. tnx
k20 10.3.8.0 in
Nexus5-32GB said:
I can definitely see the pixelation you are talking about, but is it in video itself or the pixelation is because of the video player you are using? Thats why I told you to post the original video.
Also what rom are you using?
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It is in the video itself. It shows in the camera's "viewfinder" while recording, and then the same way when playing the recorded file. As I said, 120fps is even worse, while it isn't saved at 120fps but at 30fps slow motion in case you thought it's the videoplayer mishandling 60fps playback.
I'm using the official MIUI it came with.
Abyzt said:
same for my device,it has that pixelation on 1080p 60fps recording.
playing it on pc vlc or mpc-hc have it too.
was waiting for someone to create a thread about it. tnx
k20 10.3.8.0 in
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As I mentioned, I already saw something said about this in a review, but I don't see a reason why it should perform this bad with anything above 1080p 30fps. Because the digital zoom on 30fps remains fairly detailed even at around X3, I wonder if the sensor knows how to limit the area of pixels from the sensor used before rendering the frame, thus creating a better digital zoom than just cropping and stretching up from the normal amount of pixels being used. The image is slightly zoomed already in 60fps, as I mentioned, but seeing how it just takes the already somewhat pixelated quality and stretches it up exactly as-is in 60fps, it definitely doesn't use any sensor area limitation trickery in that case.
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It is in the video itself. It shows in the camera's "viewfinder" while recording, and then the same way when playing the recorded file. As I said, 120fps is even worse, while it isn't saved at 120fps but at 30fps slow motion in case you thought it's the videoplayer mishandling 60fps playback.
I'm using the official MIUI it came with.
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I have tested my own Mi9T and can say the 60fps video suffer from pixelation for sure.
has the same problem on the gcam ports too on 60fps
so i think xiaomi has to do something on the camera firmware
or imx 582 cant handle it mmm idk
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has the same problem on the gcam ports too on 60fps
so i think xiaomi has to do something on the camera firmware
or imx 582 cant handle it mmm idk
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This would be quite strange if it's hardware limited to this extent. Both the Snapdragon 730 and the IMX 582 are rated for 4K at 30fps, which in number of pixels per second is equal to 1080p at 120fps (which the phone also features as an option). But if this upper limit is so far from perfectly-handled that even at half the data (1080p at 60fps) it provides Crappy crappy results... Strange. Are there any other phones currently using this sensor, so we can check if there had been similar complaints?
found this it has imx 582 mi a3 with pixelation
watch?v=8YC_Zk1-cSg
Abyzt said:
found this it has imx 582 mi a3 with pixelation
watch?v=8YC_Zk1-cSg
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That's quite strange and annoying. The SD 730 is better than the SD 665, so if it happens on both we know it's more likely related to the image sensor itself. But it seems unlikely a sensor released with specifications allowing it to capture up to 120fps at 1080p would perform this badly at 60fps. It looks as if if just takes a 720p 60fps feed and upscales it (without any scaling filters) to 1080p. Maybe it's indeed an issue with how Xiaomi implemented this sensor in software? Both phones we have as examples are from the same manufacturer, so a third party phone could be a better indicator.
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has the same problem on the gcam ports too on 60fps
so i think xiaomi has to do something on the camera firmware
or imx 582 cant handle it mmm idk
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Would you be so kind and tell me more in how you managed to make 1080p/60fps work on Gcam?
USing my Gcam port, the app instantly crashes when trying to use the 60fps mod....everything else works just fine.
USing Ornyx05 - 0709 port.
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Would you be so kind and tell me more in how you managed to make 1080p/60fps work on Gcam?
USing my Gcam port, the app instantly crashes when trying to use the 60fps mod....everything else works just fine.
USing Ornyx05 - 0709 port.
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use the ports by xtrme
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use the ports by xtrme
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Thanks, that worked a treat
Found out which settings you most satisfied with ?
On mine is not pixelated..
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On mine is not pixelated..
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Could you shoot an example of 1080p at 60fps, perhaps use x2 zoom as it shows the issue much more clearly on my phone, and then upload the example? Or just a screenshot of a frame.
So, months have passed and I wonder....do we have a conclusion/reason why the 1080p 60fps videos are still pixelated/jagged when zooming in even a little bid?
For the love of me i cant find anything on that matter anywhere on the web.
Is there a workaround? is it just the camera sensor? software? something else?
Still alive?
It seems to be specific to IMX582 sensors.
My POCO X3 Pro has exact same problem.
I have created an HLSL shader program to mitigate this, and it works well on MPC-HC.
I hope someone would port it to Gcam to do it in real time.
For comparison, added the stock image and one halfed then doubled.
Just for information.
This pixelation occurs also on Huawei Mate 9.
So, my thought is that may be caused by skipped scan lines to achieve 60 fps and poor interpolation for malformed Bayer array (see the attachment picture).
Considering that, I updated my HLSL shader to re-decode the array.
It should not be a perfect solution because there is theoretical restriction by non-uniformity of its subpixels.
I still looking for some way to apply the shader directly to raw pixels before encoding to H.264/H.265 in camera apps.