Video quality - LG V30 Real Life Review

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the LG V30 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.

Seeing as there are only pre-production unites with non-final software available, I would think it's a little premature to comment on any aspect of the phone including video quality.

The Last Oracle said:
The Video Quality needs an improvement. Most likely some firmware issues that could be addressed by LG. Dynamic Range is low in video, and the stabilisation is disappointing. Maybe they could engage the Electronic Image Stabilisation (EIS), or improve the Optical Image stabilisation (OIS) response time and overall smoothness.
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Do you own the device or you judge only by the review in Internet?

Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.

SinSilla said:
Video quality looks pretty damn good so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV8tf4lKtgA
I'd love to see higher bitrate with the original camera app, is this a possible hack for the future? There is still Cinema4k, but i'd love to keep the in camera grading.
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Manual mode in V20 let you choose as high as 64Mbit bitrate, kut not auto mode though.
What I'd like to know is if there's 3rd party app in PlayMarket that's capable to store UHD 4K video directly in H.265 HEVC format?
SD Spectre is definitely capable of H265 compressing AFAIK

Game of Thrones’ Cinematographer Shot This Homemade Movie on LG’s V30 Phone
http://www.adweek.com/creativity/ga...er-shot-this-homemade-movie-on-lgs-v30-phone/

They're really doing a bang up job in pushing the video quality of the V30. Want to see how it does against a Red Weapon camera? Sure you do!
https://youtu.be/nAth8g05tfs

Hey guys,
it's possible shooting 120-240 fps with full hd?
Thanks

This video was taken on the LG V30, model H933, not that any of the cameras are any different.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_MnzeG3PCo

csabasalas said:
can it capture the 4k 60fps video ? codec is h.264 or h.265 ?
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30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.

CHH2 said:
30fps max at 4k. 60fps max at 1080. No idea what codec they're using inside of the mp4 container.
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I hope the rooted LG V30 should have QHD 60fps (2k video recording) like the Samsung Galaxy S8/Note 8 camera mod!

FYI, from a Phone Arena Q&A article about the LG V30:
LG V30 Q&A: Your questions answered!
https://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-V30-Q-A-Your-questions-answered_id99088
The rear snapper is capable of shooting in the following modes and aspects in Auto video mode:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Cine video mode, which is the one that allows you to pre-apply various cinematic filters and use the Point Zoom feature, you can shoot in the following modes:
16:9 4K [email protected],
18:9 FHD [email protected],
16:9 FHD [email protected],
18:9 HD [email protected],
16:9 HD [email protected]
In Manual video mode, where all the fun stuff is, the phone shoots in the following aspects and formats:
16:9 UHD [email protected], 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 FHD Cinema [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 FHD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
16:9 HD [email protected], 60, 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
21:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps;
18:9 HD [email protected], 30, 24, 2, or 1fps.
As far as slo-mo is concerned, you get [email protected] slo-mo, which is now a standard among flagships devices.
The front-facing camera maxes out at:
16:9 FHD 1920x1080
18:9 HD 1440x720
16:9 HD 1280x720.
Video quality is excellent and is definitely geared towards your regular aspiring cinematographer.
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There's other answers to questions in that article, so feel free to go read it in its entirety.

^That article isn't exactly true. While if you are just digging around in the menus looking for frame rates, all you will see is that the fastest listed is [email protected] But if you use the actual mode option listed as Slo-mo then you get 240fps. They were lazy and didn't do their research.

I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8

greatgoogly said:
I currently have a 6P which I use very often to record videos of bands in nightclubs. The 6P is great in that it's audio end doesn't get overloaded by loud audio. Curious how the LG V30 does in this setting. Sample of what I get with the 6P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8OTwcEYpu8
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/how-to/initial-camera-observations-t3685747/page5
Use the youtube links and not the embedded videos. No idea why the embedded stopped working.
And I should note that those videos were made in a bar where they keep the volume at a level that trips the Receiver As Mic. That doesn't come on until 120 decibels. The RAM was tripped right from the start.

here's my sample:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Un4M7gW1QQ

really disappointed with all the shaking from the ois / camera. google seems to turn up quite a few results for this issue. Seems no one has mentioned it here though. here's the video I made entirely with the V30 Cine mode.. really not happy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HDo_noiR7c

I get pixelated sky (and any other surfaces with gradient) when shooting in 4k (any bitrate, any camera app)
The solution is h265/HEVC
I checked a lot of reviews on YouTube before buying the phone and their videos don't seem to have this pixelation.
Can somebody shoot a 4k video of the sky with default camera app and do some movements while recording?
I would like to know if it's a wide spread issue or my phone is faulty.
My device model: LG-AS998

i have serious problems with in-video audio quality, especially in the manual mode, with hi-fi setting. on softer sounds it has a weird "compression artifact" like stuttering, although its lossless audio.
this is the mode that sohuld be ok for semi-professional videos according to the ads and phone blogger, but its absolutely not!
so a kinda mediocre video quality that promises great audio to make up for it, but it doesnt deliver.
I made a post about this in QA with samples.
There is pretty clear what I talk about.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/help/weird-audio-stutter-video-quality-sound-t3919793
it would be nice if someone reacted to this who also tried to use this phone for vlogging, making videos for editing etc.

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720p vs 1080p video recording

Do you typically record 720p or 1080p video? I use 720p because the files are smaller and I own a 720p tv. I wondered if 720p might offer better quality in low light conditions because it can average over more pixels in the sensor?
Also if the phone cpu is working too hard at 1080p does it reduce quality by upping compression and increasing lossyness?
Or is 1080p substantially better choice with the only downside being bigger files?
Generally I've found video IQ to be some what independent of resolution (on other devices) because compression generally goes up with resolution negating a lot of the benefits.
Thoughts?
Im using 720p cos it seems to me more clear and more smooth playing...plus less zoom.....
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So 720p plays back smoother? Just on the phone screen or over hdmi?
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jdurston said:
Do you typically record 720p or 1080p video? I use 720p because the files are smaller and I own a 720p tv. I wondered if 720p might offer better quality in low light conditions because it can average over more pixels in the sensor?
Also if the phone cpu is working too hard at 1080p does it reduce quality by upping compression and increasing lossyness?
Or is 1080p substantially better choice with the only downside being bigger files?
Generally I've found video IQ to be some what independent of resolution (on other devices) because compression generally goes up with resolution negating a lot of the benefits.
Thoughts?
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You are right, due to the binning would select the less noisier pixels and thus, the 720p video quality [except for resolution ofc ] would be much better.
I prefer 720p mode, only because of the field of view, it's just too narrow angle in 1080 mode.
Suppose it could come in handy if wanting to shoot something more distant but for indoor work it's not wide enough.
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For me only 720p, because in 1080p I get a thin, purple line over the image that's also recorded into the vid, making my 1080 mode effectively broken.
I always thought 1080 as higher quality than 720p. Maybe for mobile this is different? Any source or test for this?
I'll try and shoot some comparison footage tomorrow.
Not sure if YouTube's compression will make the difference impossible to tell though.
Si14 said:
I always thought 1080 as higher quality than 720p. Maybe for mobile this is different? Any source or test for this?
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This is a totally different matter. Yes, 1080 pixels are "higher" than 720, obviously . But there are other factors also on our device.
I just record in 720p. Never really compared the two, but I don't need 1080p usually, so I' don't need those huge files either.
Good discussion on here, guess I'll have to switch to 720p now on.
I tried recording an apple in the 2 modes and to my surprise the 720p mode is indeed much clearer and wider then 1080p.
Go for 720p
I prefer 720 p... for my the quality is enought and the size of the videos is so better.
Regards

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the OnePlus 6 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
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Please , do a mini test of the microphone in a loud environment, I´m interesed to Switch to this phone, thanks.
Is it right when you record 4k 60fps it very laggy or stuttery video.....thats because theres isnt any stabiliozer.
I am really thinking buy Oneplus 6 ....but if the 4k 60fps videos are so bad i am off.
Earlier i had a Huawei p10 its was also stuttering video
xalodogan said:
Is it right when you record 4k 60fps it very laggy or stuttery video.....thats because theres isnt any stabiliozer.
I am really thinking buy Oneplus 6 ....but if the 4k 60fps videos are so bad i am off.
Earlier i had a Huawei p10 its was also stuttering video
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It uses OIS for 4k60fps according to the AMA
I got oneplus 6 today and recorded my son on 4k 60fps. It is really a great camera. No stutering. Video turned out great
Here's an OIS and EIS explanation on the OP6.....
https://youtu.be/bdcld2ux-tA
So you are absolutely not expering any stutering with 4K 60fps like Video below
https://youtu.be/bdcld2ux-tA
Its stutering because of OIS. Very weird
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kodrnusa said:
I got oneplus 6 today and recorded my son on 4k 60fps. It is really a great camera. No stutering. Video turned out great
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xalodogan said:
So you are absolutely not expering any stutering with 4K 60fps like Video below ?
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I made video 4k 60 fps siting down. My kid moved around and video was fine. No stutering at all.
I 'll make some more testing tomorrow ?
I think this should answer all questions. Only recorded in 1080p 60fps mode, but I was mainly looking for the audio quality. And from my perspective, that time has come where OnePlus 6 can record concerts, may not be perfect, but I can live with it ??? My life is now complete.
https://youtu.be/kzfOoWah7E4
Guys I am still waiting my order to be delivered
Anyway I heard that you can only capture max 5min video on 4k 60fps is that correct?
salihss said:
Guys I am still waiting my order to be delivered
Anyway I heard that you can only capture max 5min video on 4k 60fps is that correct?
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Yes
One Plus 6 Slow Motion 240 fps 1920 x 1080 Full HD
Video created using the fast camera option (slow motion) of the new OnePlus flagship, the OnePlus 6, as a source. Recorded at 240 fps with a resolution of 1920 x 1080 Full HD.
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I'm gonna have to ask again about the loud environments video recording. The 5t will either distort or lower the volume to the point of being unable to hear anything and then gets loud again. My Moto's never had an issue like that, and nor do, dare I even say, most iPhones.
Really worried about it because I want to upgrade but not if this issue isn't nixed. Ideally, a festival, concert, or nightclub would be great to try this in.
My OnePlus 6 is on the way
See if the camera is better then OnePlus 5?
I tried to capture "Night time" timelapse vs normal video on OP6, but was not happy with the results.
Normal Video is almost dark at times.
Here they are :
The sound during video recording at concerts is superbad. If this is a factor, don't get it.

Video quality

Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Xiaomi Mi 8 come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
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Xiaomi lying/misleading about slow motion
Has anyone else noticed that slow motion videos, both resolutions 1080p/720p and both framerates 240fps/120fps, are only software-upscaled from lower resolution?
If you don't believe, try to record the same scene once in 1080p/30fps and then in 1080p/240fps and play the videos on the computer.
There are horrible squares (blocks) in 240fps version.
My guess is they are originally recorded in 540p or 480p and upscaled to 1080p.
I'm very disappointed
The device has firepower for everything the year-tops do, but Xiaomi is capping it with its software.
ferraript said:
Has anyone else noticed that slow motion videos, both resolutions 1080p/720p and both framerates 240fps/120fps, are only software-upscaled from lower resolution?
If you don't believe, try to record the same scene once in 1080p/30fps and then in 1080p/240fps and play the videos on the computer.
There are horrible squares (blocks) in 240fps version.
My guess is they are originally recorded in 540p or 480p and upscaled to 1080p.
I'm very disappointed
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Blocks are bacause of low bitrate probably.
please tell me "how to record 240 fps video"
MtaTech said:
please tell me "how to record 240 fps video"
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In camera settings change video hfr to 240.
gm007 said:
In camera settings change video hfr to 240.
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youtube com/watch?v=DOkDnbN5-LY watch the video
and result ; https:// cdn1.imggmi com/uploads/2018/9/15/66f0958d47941b0778144254e469186f-full.jpg
I try everyhing. 240 fps did not record.
galakty said:
Blocks are bacause of low bitrate probably.
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In the videos i've recorded, with little no camera movement and only the subject moving the image quality at 240fps looks exactly the same as 1080p. So i will assume it's exactly this, i havent tested the files, but its probably using the same or only just slightly higher bitrate for the 240fps version.
could be better, maybe with an update, that can be fixed
xiaomi mi 8 960 fps super slow motion
The Camera for me has improved a lot, but now it would be good to improve the super slow camera, and the recording time of it, I have compiled this video and you can see how some effects of the slow 960fps camera seems not to be real, judge your.
Xiaomi mi8 super slow motion 960 fps.
https://youtu.be/pg-Z8ZEwL8c
It's not actually 960s, it's software post-processing/interpolation of a 240fps video
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-8/how-to/review-960fps-slow-motion-t3881678
https://en.miui.com/thread-4985217-1-1.html

Video quality

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The stock camera only takes 720p 30FPS video. How is this even a thing in 2020?
With Gcam, I was able to go up to 4K 30 FPS, but since I do not know how 4K should look, I do not know whether it was actual 4K.
60FPS crashed.
Edit: It was a mistake. See my next post. Gcam 4K video is terrible tho. I will rather prefer the 720p video.
I was wrong. This camera does have 1080p60 and 4K30. But for some reason last night it was locked to 720p30. No idea why.
Well, same "issue" that many phones seems to have.
Video quality is okay, but the sound of the videos is crappy in many situations.
Don't understand why they doesn't implent a better audio codec...
My experience:
I have Redmi Note 9S. Video stabilization works only in video modes: 720p 30fps, 1080p 30 FPS. When I want to record 1080p 60 FPS, or 4k 30 FPS, video is not stabilized.

Anyone know a way to stop the camera from upscaling the video recording resolution?

This has been bugging the hell out of me since I got this phone. All the reviews made such a huge deal out of the phones camera quality and capabilities. But upon using it myself.. I am not all that impressed. When I record a video in say 1280x720, the resulting video always looks like it was recorded in say 800x450 or something along those lines. No matter what bitrate I choose, it looks like a lower resolution. You can't zoom the video hardly without it degrading. Go ahead, try zooming on some text in 720P. Now compare it to 720P on some other phone. Now, when I record in say 1920x1080, the resulting video looks like it was recorded in 720p, not 1080.
I have 720p videos I recorded from my Galaxy S4 that look FAR FAR better than so called 720p on the V20. It seems like the camera on the V20 is UPSCALING the video recording output to the next highest resolution than what is ACTUALLY being recorded. 720p appears as 480p, 1080p appears as 720p etc. As someone who is picky about quality, this has been a major blow since I got this phone. I am surprised no one has ever posted about this.
THE-COPS said:
This has been bugging the hell out of me since I got this phone. All the reviews made such a huge deal out of the phones camera quality and capabilities. But upon using it myself.. I am not all that impressed. When I record a video in say 1280x720, the resulting video always looks like it was recorded in say 800x450 or something along those lines. No matter what bitrate I choose, it looks like a lower resolution. You can't zoom the video hardly without it degrading. Go ahead, try zooming on some text in 720P. Now compare it to 720P on some other phone. Now, when I record in say 1920x1080, the resulting video looks like it was recorded in 720p, not 1080.
I have 720p videos I recorded from my Galaxy S4 that look FAR FAR better than so called 720p on the V20. It seems like the camera on the V20 is UPSCALING the video recording output to the next highest resolution than what is ACTUALLY being recorded. 720p appears as 480p, 1080p appears as 720p etc. As someone who is picky about quality, this has been a major blow since I got this phone. I am surprised no one has ever posted about this.
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Iv noticed it, but I brushed it off as I felt nothing could be done to fix by me or other devs that I am/was aware of. Now that I think if it more from your words, maybe could be fixed by overclocking the 4k to 6k, or 8k, to get a 4k resolution. Need root to try this though.
Well, at least I'm not the only one who noticed. Is it the same way on Oreo? I mean, did the update "fix" anything related to video recording resolution or is it still upscaled? (I'm still on 7.0 Nougat for battery reasons, but if 8.0 has a video improvement.. well, game changer). This seems like false advertising meant to try and push 4k capability when it really couldn't. If the camera really isn't capturing 4K, then does that mean it would be too much a burden on the hardware to actually be pulling 30 4k FPS ...VS 30 1080P FPS upscaled to 4K?
Are you talking about the quality on Google photos, or the out of camera quality?
have you tried exporting it to your computer via USB? Cos, for some reason the quality and resolution are lower on G Photos.
THE-COPS said:
Well, at least I'm not the only one who noticed. Is it the same way on Oreo? I mean, did the update "fix" anything related to video recording resolution or is it still upscaled? (I'm still on 7.0 Nougat for battery reasons, but if 8.0 has a video improvement.. well, game changer). This seems like false advertising meant to try and push 4k capability when it really couldn't. If the camera really isn't capturing 4K, then does that mean it would be too much a burden on the hardware to actually be pulling 30 4k FPS ...VS 30 1080P FPS upscaled to 4K?
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I don't think a burden but more of how's it's coded. 4K on tripod is hard to tell vs 1080p. Note 3 was same way. Oreo cam may be better but I can't really tell. Idk why 16mp is not fully utilized for 4K 16:9 either. Coding that I personally don't know how to do. Slow mo don't even have sound via stock cam.
Lebatman said:
Are you talking about the quality on Google photos, or the out of camera quality?
have you tried exporting it to your computer via USB? Cos, for some reason the quality and resolution are lower on G Photos.
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Camera output. That is, the resulting video file from the camera after pressing record button.
I know there is a loss of quality from compression. But it's not compression artifacts causing this. Bitrate doesn't make any difference. You can clearly see the video detail is not even close to what it says it is. I especially noticed this with text. I was recording a video while in a car. There was a car maybe 1-2 car lengths ahead. One can easily read the license plate. In the recorded 1280x720 video, I could NOT make out the plate at all. You'd thought I recorded in 960x540 or close. It's rather blurry. I think that's why LG added all that oversharpening.
I even set it to take photos at 1280x720. And even with high jpg compression zoomed/cropped, it doesn't look like the 1280x720 zoomed/cropped video of the same exact item being photo'd.
Been using Mark Harmons OpenCamera and trying all sorts of video bitrates. Then changing photo save resolution. I found that a photo resolution of between 960x540 and 800x480 (cropped) looks very similar to what a cropped 720P video appears. It seems as if there is some kind of preprocessing going on with the image that makes it appear extremely muddy (smudged blurry detail cropped). Nothing at all changed with the quality whether the bitrate was set at 5Mbps or 50Mbps. Quality remained unchanged.
Mysticblaze347. I don't think a burden but more of how's it's coded. 4K on tripod is hard to tell vs 1080p. Note 3 was same way. Oreo cam may be better but I can't really tell. Idk why 16mp is not fully utilized for 4K 16:9 either. Coding that I personally don't know how to do. Slow mo don't even have sound via stock cam.
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Sounds like Oreo update isn't worth the trouble. As far as how it's coded... I think it's the awful preprocessing muddying up the image detail as I mentioned above. Using massively high bitrates does no good at all.
4K on tripod VS 1080 on tripod is quite noticeable on the V20 due to the appearance of upscaling (or horrible preprocessing.. whichever it is).
I didn't know Slo-Mo was supposed to have sound. I mean, the option to enable sound would be interesting (say a time-stretched audio instead of slowed down pitch).
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Camera output. That is, the resulting video file from the camera after pressing record button.
I know there is a loss of quality from compression. But it's not compression artifacts causing this. Bitrate doesn't make any difference. You can clearly see the video detail is not even close to what it says it is. I especially noticed this with text. I was recording a video while in a car. There was a car maybe 1-2 car lengths ahead. One can easily read the license plate. In the recorded 1280x720 video, I could NOT make out the plate at all. You'd thought I recorded in 960x540 or close. It's rather blurry. I think that's why LG added all that oversharpening.
I even set it to take photos at 1280x720. And even with high jpg compression zoomed/cropped, it doesn't look like the 1280x720 zoomed/cropped video of the same exact item being photo'd.
Been using Mark Harmons OpenCamera and trying all sorts of video bitrates. Then changing photo save resolution. I found that a photo resolution of between 960x540 and 800x480 (cropped) looks very similar to what a cropped 720P video appears. It seems as if there is some kind of preprocessing going on with the image that makes it appear extremely muddy (smudged blurry detail cropped). Nothing at all changed with the quality whether the bitrate was set at 5Mbps or 50Mbps. Quality remained unchanged.
Sounds like Oreo update isn't worth the trouble. As far as how it's coded... I think it's the awful preprocessing muddying up the image detail as I mentioned above. Using massively high bitrates does no good at all.
4K on tripod VS 1080 on tripod is quite noticeable on the V20 due to the appearance of upscaling (or horrible preprocessing.. whichever it is).
I didn't know Slo-Mo was supposed to have sound. I mean, the option to enable sound would be interesting (say a time-stretched audio instead of slowed down pitch).
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Who wouldn't want sound with slow mo? That's like no sound with regular video lol.
LG also made it to where 4k can barely be done via third party. Gcam can't...Open Cam can. Nothing can be done without root tho. Even then... limitations upon availability and know how. Manual setting is your best bet. Auto is well...auto, so definitely postprocessing will be involved and yes it's not the best, unless fixed with some mod, even if that works. LG hardcoded lockdowns. Camera firmware can be possible tweaked...but I do not know how.

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