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I installed/flashed Gingerblur yesterday and it was working fine for the whole day. At night, I put it back into it's case because I'm still waiting for my New Screen Protector and Case to come. I take really good care of it. Then I did not use the phone for the whole day. After having a really bad day, I started up my brand new Atrix for some fun and it was already at around 5% battery left so I went ahead and tried to charge it. I noticed plugging it into the computer did not work, so I tried wall charging it and that also did not work.
To sum it up,
Symptoms:
-Green Led for 2-3 seconds when I hold down the top main button then shuts off led. Note: Only happens/works if the phone is plugged into the wall.
-Green Led for 4 or more seconds if I plug in wall charger then shuts off led.
-No visual image on screen after battery drained out at all.
What can I do? I don't think I bricked it since it was working perfectly yesterday. Is there anything I can do? I have tried removing battery with no avail, it is plugged in to the wall charger still for the past hour.
This is a very weird problem and I don't know the exact answer..I just know i bricked my atrix before (failed to flash on a full battery) and couldn't charge the dead battery even on AC.
I ended up buying a universal battery charger from radioshack and then returning it once I got my battery fully charged and flashed the rom. Haven't had any battery problems since.
Hope this helps
Thanks, I will try this but it is night time right now. I hope someone else has had experience of this before and can guide me to any other directions.
I did not fail a flash, unless the flash can fail even if Gingerblur was working 100% before it failed. I don't know if thats possible.
Are you using the usb cable/charger that came with the phone?
I know it sounds ridiculous but the phone does NOT charge on any of my existing MicroUSB cables or wall chargers (used to have a nexus one). Pretty bummed about that :/
Yeah I am using the one that came with it.
I also want to update that I've tried my sister's HTC Inspire charger and an old Samsung charger I have left around.
Both are USB to wall Adapters (I am not using the same wall power adapter for each charger) so I wonder if I need the one that plugs directly into the wall?
Yeah, you probably just have a dysfunctional battery or charger, either way, you're going to have to diagnose which one is the problem (fingers crossed that it isn't the phone)
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it sounds like its not the charger, from your most recent post.
I think your phone is the problem, it's not processing how to charge the battery from the cable.
Common problem. You need at least 850mA to charge the phone, so older usb ports wont work. The wall charger is actually working. Pull the battery out, put it back in, plug in the wall charger(don't press any buttons!) and let it sit for about 30min to get a decent charge. Should boot up after that.
designgears said:
Common problem. You need at least 850mA to charge the phone, so older usb ports wont work. The wall charger is actually working. Pull the battery out, put it back in, plug in the wall charger(don't press any buttons!) and let it sit for about 30min to get a decent charge. Should boot up after that.
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Hm, it's been charging for over an hour now and still hasn't turned on. But I did not do it exactly as you said. I unplugged the battery acouple times but I always try to hold the "fingerprint" on button right after plugging it in. I'll try not pressing anything this time. Thanks, I'll post back if I get any results.
The phone should turn on if charging, you don't need 850mA either. Standard USB is 500 and it just charges slower. I know this for a fact as I just charged it like that.
Take it into a store or contact where you bought it from.
Plugging in phone while off: Green LED for a bit, moto logo, battery icon
Power on, no charger : green light for a bit longer, moto logo, boot animation.
Try an at&t stores charger and see if theyll let you charge the battery.
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Mgamerz said:
The phone should turn on if charging, you don't need 850mA either. Standard USB is 500 and it just charges slower.
Take it into a store or contact amazon support.
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With a dead battery you need 850 mAH. The phone needs 850 mA ti boot and it needs to boot to charge (strange yes but software controls the charge).
I would suggest trying all the chargers you can (the Moto one may be giving you to little amps) and if that does not work you can try to either 1) make a dev cable (post on how to in the dev section, though it requires soldering and such so you may not be able to do it if you don't have supplies) or 2) get a charger for the battery (one to directly charge the battery vice through the phone).
The battery method did not work, I did not try to hold the main button until 1 hour later to no avail. I'm going to Best Buy tomorrow for a replacement.
Edit: Oops..Too late to the party! I had the same issue that was fixed when I used a good quality micro-usb charger!
850ma? You sure?
I've charged and booted my phone from dead on a 700ma charger and 500ma usb on numerous occasions.
U need not worry .. put it in a wall charger .. and let it sit dere for atleast an hour .. the green led will come up when charge level reaches around 50% or more .. be patient ..
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I installed/flashed Gingerblur yesterday and it was working fine for the whole day. At night, I put it back into it's case because I'm still waiting for my New Screen Protector and Case to come. I take really good care of it. Then I did not use the phone for the whole day. After having a really bad day, I started up my brand new Atrix for some fun and it was already at around 5% battery left so I went ahead and tried to charge it. I noticed plugging it into the computer did not work, so I tried wall charging it and that also did not work.
To sum it up,
Symptoms:
-Green Led for 2-3 seconds when I hold down the top main button then shuts off led. Note: Only happens/works if the phone is plugged into the wall.
-Green Led for 4 or more seconds if I plug in wall charger then shuts off led.
-No visual image on screen after battery drained out at all.
What can I do? I don't think I bricked it since it was working perfectly yesterday. Is there anything I can do? I have tried removing battery with no avail, it is plugged in to the wall charger still for the past hour.
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I had the exact same issue the other day. I forgot to put my phone on charge at night, and it was dead in the morning. I plugged into the wall with my Moto charger, the phone turned on and went right to CWM. I rebooted from there, the phone showed 5% battery level, and within 10-15 minutes was at 20%.
I thought it strange my phone went right to the old Tenfar CWM even though I uninstalled it after unlocking my phone and installing the latest CWM from Tenfar.
It does seem that the shut off with the battery is 5%. I am assuming this is the safety factor built into either the Android OS, or the batteries themselves, as they do have circuits in them much like mini computers to shut them off before 100% discharge, as this will kill a Lithium Ion battery.
Some simple facts regarding the Lithium Ion batteries:
•They start degrading as soon as they leave the factory. They will only last two or three years from the date of manufacture whether you use them or not.
•They are extremely sensitive to high temperatures. Heat causes lithium-ion battery packs to degrade much faster than they normally would.
•If you completely discharge a lithium-ion battery, it is ruined.
•A lithium-ion battery pack must have an on-board computer to manage the battery. This makes them even more expensive than they already are.
•There is a small chance that, if a lithium-ion battery pack fails, it will burst into flame.
What I would like to know is why some people have problems getting a charge back in the Atrix after a complete discharge. There I was at 20% after 10-15 minutes using the Moto wall charger, while other people can't even get their phones to turn on after an hour on the wall charger.
I have the same problem, tried everything and finally found a solution
Get a warranty replacement.
The phone won't turn on, so they don't know what you did to it.
Got my new phone today, popped the dead battery in and voila, it charges !
Sometimes it's like people say, it's because of the charge, but your phone probably have issue, just get a replacement
I let it charge all night and it still has the same symptoms. Going to Best Buy in an hour when it opens.
When I get my new phone, should I Gingerblur it again or am I going to face this same issue? Was this software related or hardware?
Gingerblur was relatively easy to do, but I don't want to risk killing my phone a second time.
UPDATE: Got a replacement phone. Complementing whether I want to Gingerblur it again because that's the only thing that could have caused the battery issue other than it being hardware related.
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I let it charge all night and it still has the same symptoms. Going to Best Buy in an hour when it opens.
When I get my new phone, should I Gingerblur it again or am I going to face this same issue? Was this software related or hardware?
Gingerblur was relatively easy to do, but I don't want to risk killing my phone a second time.
UPDATE: Got a replacement phone. Complementing whether I want to Gingerblur it again because that's the only thing that could have caused the battery issue other than it being hardware related.
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You can try it again should work fine for you. If not...
You can always use their phone and your "dead battery" and visa versa theirs into your phone. Then if same issue happens. Just warranty the phone. If your in warranty do it. I've had g1's for no reason not charge. Led says it, os says it, yet NONE of my working batteries were getting any charge off the phone. Especially when the phone was 3 days old. Warranty.... if its free do it.
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850ma? You sure?
I've charged and booted my phone from dead on a 700ma charger and 500ma usb on numerous occasions.
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Well, according to motorola it needs that much... so you never know
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You can try it again should work fine for you. If not...
You can always use their phone and your "dead battery" and visa versa theirs into your phone. Then if same issue happens. Just warranty the phone. If your in warranty do it. I've had g1's for no reason not charge. Led says it, os says it, yet NONE of my working batteries were getting any charge off the phone. Especially when the phone was 3 days old. Warranty.... if its free do it.
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Yes if warranty then ok .. But we are here to do the impossible.. I just reconditioned a new battery just so it can turn phone on in same instance for a friend. So yes batteries and phones new can have charging issues.
There is an issue with smart-phones and batteries and has been since day one. If you are here then evidently you either love these phones and want to mod them or you are like me and love playing with electronics. Real simple if you in the smart-phone world there are a few rules of thumb..
1.) Never begin working without a fully charged battery (some say 51% or better I say 100% )
2.) Buy , borrow , get an external battery charger and/or stronger wall charger
3.) Extra batteries are always good.
4.) Read the damn stickies and wiki's ... People have taken plenty of time creating them. Those who know me know I have written some myself.
5.) The biggest problem is located between the chair and the keyboard .... (lol)
I should clarify the title by saying that trying to charge this phone is resulting in a number of odd results.
So firstly, I've tried using the wall-mounted AC charger. I then tried using USB on my computer, in 3 different usb ports. The phone was charging perfectly less than 24 hours before this problem began.
I plugged it in as per usual, and it didn't show the little lightning bolt on the batter icon like it should. It wasn't registering that it was plugged in. I tried plugging it into my PC, and it wasn't showing that it was connected via USB. In addition to that, my computer was failing to install the drivers for it. I went back to the AC charger, and tried a few different outlets, including one on a power strip. Nothing worked.
I searched online, and found that other people had this problem, and could only fix it by resetting to factory default settings. One person even had to do it twice to get it to work. So I did this, and it still didn't work. I tried charging my old phone with this Ac charger and cable, and it wouldn't work either. So I thought it must be a fault in the cable. So I dug up the cable (also micro-usb) for my old phone, and tried it. It worked just fine for my old phone, but my S4 still had the same problem, but with something new. It would say "Dock connected" but still not charge.
As of right now, it seems to be charging properly with my new AC mount and old usb cable, but I'm worried that this could happen again. Considering this seems to be a problem for other people too, what should I do about it? Is there some way to prevent this sort of thing from happening? Was it purely the other cable, given the fact that it didn't work with my old phone either? I'm on an extremely tight budget, and this phone is my only way of being contacted for job interviews, so having it in working order is very important. Any advice would be very appreciated!
Having exactly the same problem... couldn't find over the internet a solution yet or a position about it...
Affraid it's a hardware issue and have to send to the assistance...
Anyone know what to do?
Yup having the same issues - but i noticed only having charging issues when battery reaches 20% or the low battery notification pops up
it detects that a usb is connected but it wont charge
Solutions:
- dont let it go below 20 which is ****
- some people claim that if you use a 5pin charger instead of the 4pin which samsung includes solves the prob
Mine is a little more serious I think... haven't found a solution like that yet.
I have to connect/disconnect multiple times and it suddenly works.
But between those connects/disconnects it presents multiple problems, it appears on notification bar "Dock Connected", sometimes appears "Dock Connected" and on the notification bar appears "Suggested Apps (Anchoring)", other times it appears "Dock Connected" and the volume bar appears on the screen and stay there freeze (the phone works, but the bar doesn't disappear)... Sometimes the phone starts charging and suddenly stops, other times it says it's charging and if I remove the charger it keeps the charging symbol on the battery icon...
It's completely crazy, gonna take to service I guess.
Have you tried blowing out the usb connector on the phone with a can of compressed air?
If there is a minute piece of dust there it may be shorting something out - error that dock is connected. I know this happens to other phones, there was a big thread about it on the S3 forum. Might be a simple little thing like that...
Unfortunately that doesn't work for me, will send to service, let's see.
have you solved this problem and how?????
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I should clarify the title by saying that trying to charge this phone is resulting in a number of odd results.
So firstly, I've tried using the wall-mounted AC charger. I then tried using USB on my computer, in 3 different usb ports. The phone was charging perfectly less than 24 hours before this problem began.
I plugged it in as per usual, and it didn't show the little lightning bolt on the batter icon like it should. It wasn't registering that it was plugged in. I tried plugging it into my PC, and it wasn't showing that it was connected via USB. In addition to that, my computer was failing to install the drivers for it. I went back to the AC charger, and tried a few different outlets, including one on a power strip. Nothing worked.
I searched online, and found that other people had this problem, and could only fix it by resetting to factory default settings. One person even had to do it twice to get it to work. So I did this, and it still didn't work. I tried charging my old phone with this Ac charger and cable, and it wouldn't work either. So I thought it must be a fault in the cable. So I dug up the cable (also micro-usb) for my old phone, and tried it. It worked just fine for my old phone, but my S4 still had the same problem, but with something new. It would say "Dock connected" but still not charge.
As of right now, it seems to be charging properly with my new AC mount and old usb cable, but I'm worried that this could happen again. Considering this seems to be a problem for other people too, what should I do about it? Is there some way to prevent this sort of thing from happening? Was it purely the other cable, given the fact that it didn't work with my old phone either? I'm on an extremely tight budget, and this phone is my only way of being contacted for job interviews, so having it in working order is very important. Any advice would be very appreciated!
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have u sved this problem ??
ihave same problem plz rply.
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have u sved this problem ??
ihave same problem plz rply.
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Yep, chalk up one more with the same problem!
At first I thought it had something to do with Aviate, a custom launcher from Yahoo (actually a pretty sweet one at that!)
But I guess not.
My work-around is to reboot the phone while connected. It charges fine while turned off and seems to keep charging when booting while plugged in.
Still... this is a stupid work-around and I want this fixed properly.
Any news from any of you guys?
ZonderZout said:
Yep, chalk up one more with the same problem!
At first I thought it had something to do with Aviate, a custom launcher from Yahoo (actually a pretty sweet one at that!)
But I guess not.
My work-around is to reboot the phone while connected. It charges fine while turned off and seems to keep charging when booting while plugged in.
Still... this is a stupid work-around and I want this fixed properly.
Any news from any of you guys?
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Had this problem today. Suddenly out of nowhere "Dock is connected" message appeared after plugging the charger in and out. Tried to clean out the dock with stick and cotton on the edge. Then turned off and plugged in charger. Problem exists. Phone charges but stops regularly. It is very annoying when you dont know how to fix this kind of problem.
Any new solutions?
Right after this post, I froze the app "battery doctor 4.9.2" using Titanium Backup Pro (you can just uninstall it i guess). Then just plugged charger and now it's already Almost 90% without any interruption.
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Kamo777 said:
Right after this post, I froze the app "battery doctor 4.9.2" using Titanium Backup Pro (you can just uninstall it i guess). Then just plugged charger and now it's already Almost 90% without any interruption.
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Amazing! I've dealing with this problem for weeks and internet didn't give me any good answer, but the whole problem was a baterry monitor apk that for some reason was interfiering with the charger. Thank you so much!
I had this problem too and in my case it was a hardware problem. When i start the charging it kept repeating the start proces of charging with the vibration and the grey battery icon(in case the phone was turned off). The battery icon with the green charging light just didn't showed up. I tried many things but nothing helped. I let the phone keep charging for the whole night but in the morning i saw that it didn't charged anyway!
Then i went to a local phone reparation shop(none official samsung) and they knew immediately recognized the problem and it was the usb/charging connector where you plug it in the phone. They fixed it in 1 hour for a cheap price and from then(i think a few months ago) it charges back perfectly. It seems it's a disease with S4's.
In my previous post I was happy thinking that all this charging problems were solved after uninstalling battery apk. But, in fact, my S4 charges very slowly after that incident. I have tried two other samsung adapters (galaxy s4 mini; grand prime). First one results the same (up to 5 hours charging), the latter was comparably shorter (up to 3 hours), but still slower than it used to be (2 hours normally). So I highly suspected the hardware might be the reason. Thank you for your information, now I will also have the phone checked at some local repair shop. And give feedback of course.
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In my previous post I was happy thinking that all this charging problems were solved after uninstalling battery apk. But, in fact, my S4 charges very slowly after that incident. I have tried two other samsung adapters (galaxy s4 mini; grand prime). First one results the same (up to 5 hours charging), the latter was comparably shorter (up to 3 hours), but still slower than it used to be (2 hours normally). So I highly suspected the hardware might be the reason. Thank you for your information, now I will also have the phone checked at some local repair shop. And give feedback of course.
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You probably got some water damage in your port. What you need to do is clean it. I used pure alcohol and a toothbrush for that. After that I flashed a custom kernel so I could enable fast charge true usb.
That's the reason your phone is charging slowly, it thinks it's connected true usb. So you need to boost the usb charging. After a few charge cycles I could revert back to my standard kernel and the problem was fixed.
I think ur right Lenny.
Mine S4 got wet last weekend and now i am also getting the " Dock is connected" message when i plug in the charger cable.
I can charge my phone but sometimes while charging i hear the sound go off and on what you hear when unplugging the charger.
I will try your solution and hope it will fix mine too. Thanks for posting ur tip!
I suggest you go buy a new genuine cable for an s4, the s4 does actually require a special cable capable of 2A charge rate otherwise you can end up in all sorts of bother.
Thank you all for sharing tips. I cleaned the port as suggested, then replaced my cable. Now everything is back to normal.
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Lucky you :good:
Same problem - galaxy s6
Hi there - same problem, on my 128gb s6. started this morning. Yesterday everything fine, would charge when connected via USB to both laptop and to regular samsung usb power unit. Have now tried 3 different USB cables including the samsung cable, 3 different usb power units and of course tried all 3 cables in laptop usb port. Have checked phone's usb port - clean as a whistle. Have rebooted both connected and unconnected. Started getting 'dock connected' message, now it just wont charge, although starts up fine. I take very good care of the phone, so no water damage or untoward shock damage (never get it wet, never drop it). Remaining battery charge seems to fluctuate between 30% and 40+ %, depending upon whether it's plugged in or not. If I turn it off, then connect usb cable, the phone just reboots, still not charging. I then turn it off and see no green battery charging screen, as I used to seen when connected but turned off. Should I just hard reset and take to repair shop? Still under warranty.
I would return the phone for a warranty repair. Software would not usually prevent the phone from charging when powered off.
As a final test, see if the s6 will charge wirelessly, assuming you have access to a qi charging pad and the s6 has a built-in qi receiver like the North American version of the s6.
Hi Guys,
Really need some help here. Just recently my note 4 has been failing to charge properly. When I plug my charger, it will charge for a few minutes with my official Samsung Charger but it will stop even with that. It will not charge at all connected to my laptop or my in car charger. This is what I have done so far..
1) Have bought a new battery (phone is 2 years old) New battery made no difference.
2) Have cleaned the hell out of the bottom connector on the phone (does nothing)
Not sure what else it can be. I love this phone and dont want to get rid but cant understand what is wrong.
So new battery, clean connectors, several re starts, taking out cleaning the sim and everything in the phone. What the hell else could it be??
Please help!!!
Fonejackerjon said:
Hi Guys,
Really need some help here. Just recently my note 4 has been failing to charge properly. When I plug my charger, it will charge for a few minutes with my official Samsung Charger but it will stop even with that. It will not charge at all connected to my laptop or my in car charger. This is what I have done so far..
1) Have bought a new battery (phone is 2 years old) New battery made no difference.
2) Have cleaned the hell out of the bottom connector on the phone (does nothing)
Not sure what else it can be. I love this phone and dont want to get rid but cant understand what is wrong.
So new battery, clean connectors, several re starts, taking out cleaning the sim and everything in the phone. What the hell else could it be??
Please help!!!
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1.Open dialer and dial *#0228# and press (quick start)at the bottom and hit YES this will reset battery stats and clear and battery calibration issues then turn off your phone and charge full to 100% to recalibrate battery stats.
2.if the 1st method dosent works then Try factory reset
3.flash stock firmware in odin.
Trex888 said:
1.Open dialer and dial *#0228# and press (quick start)at the bottom and hit YES this will reset battery stats and clear and battery calibration issues then turn off your phone and charge full to 100% to recalibrate battery stats.
2.if the 1st method dosent works then Try factory reset
3.flash stock firmware in odin.
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Thanks but tried that and it say's 'invalid mmi code.' Tried factory reset as well still no joy. I just don't get it sometime it will charge for 10 minutes then just stop for no reason. Also when phone swtiched off it doesn't charge at all but vibrates intemittently. Any other suggestions? Thanks for your help.
grsjohn said:
Maybe your charging connector has a problem, test your battery in another phone
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Thanks but I have three different batteries for my Note 4 and they all do this. I fear there is something wrong with the connector in my phone, although it doesn't explain why it will charge for longer sometimes than others, this is what annoys me, its totally random!!! last night I got a full charge out of my phone, today, tried charging and nothing!!!
This is genuine mystery, has my phone got a virus or something?? Why does it charge sometimes then not other times?
I don't want to give up my Note 4 I love the damn thing, any further help would be appreciated with virtual alcohol!
Might be interesting to get one of those Qi wireless charging receivers and a wireless charger to see if it charges correctly that way, bypassing the USB port.
EDIT: I use the Fonesalesman one and a Choetech 3-coil charger.
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Might be interesting to get one of those Qi wireless charging receivers and a wireless charger to see if it charges correctly that way, bypassing the USB port.
EDIT: I use the Fonesalesman one and a Choetech 3-coil charger.
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Hmmm.... that's a good idea, but I thought that the note 4 wasnt capable to charge wireless without an adaptor that that
plugs into the USB port.
I could be wrong though.
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Hmmm.... that's a good idea, but I thought that the note 4 wasnt capable to charge wireless without an adaptor that that
plugs into the USB port.
I could be wrong though.
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I use wireless charging every day, never used the USB port except occasionally to copy large files over and to activate Helium for backup. It does, of course, take longer to charge, but I have a couple of wireless chargers about and just set the phone on whenever I'm near one. Phone rarely drops below 50% charge except if I'm out all day.
You need one of these, once you put the back cover on you'll hardly know it's there - I have a UAG case on too, so it's basically invisible:
https://www.amazon.com/N4-SlimPWRcard-integrated-compatible-recommended/dp/B00OFKS66G
and a wireless charger like one of these:
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Charger-CHOETECH-Charging-Samsung/dp/B017U9FVKW
Hope this helps.
I bought a orignal bulky wireless cover, then modifit it and removed the qi plate and put it in the phone and use original cover..more slim and works
Thow i suspect that its other hardware falire..my phone is freezing/restarting without any damn special reason, wireless charge dosent work sometimes, it restarts while wireless charging ...all behaviour having something to do with the Power! i have 3 batteries.
O i think its something to do with hardware, thow i will test flashing a stock room again just to be sure. if nothing above helps u can do the same then if problem still remains so you need to take it to a repair shop.
3kgt said:
I bought a orignal bulky wireless cover, then modifit it and removed the qi plate and put it in the phone and use original cover..more slim and works
Thow i suspect that its other hardware falire..my phone is freezing/restarting without any damn special reason, wireless charge dosent work sometimes, it restarts while wireless charging ...all behaviour having something to do with the Power! i have 3 batteries.
O i think its something to do with hardware, thow i will test flashing a stock room again just to be sure. if nothing above helps u can do the same then if problem still remains so you need to take it to a repair shop.
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Very annoying problem and one that frustrates me because its random! I got it charging for 25 minutes tonight before it, all of a sudden for no reason stops at 44%....
However I today received an external charger that I bought of eBay for a mere £5.99 it's great. Although it means I have to keep swapping batteries, it's by far the most cost effective solution. Until I see a phone that is a significant leap above the Note 4 I refuse to upgrade which, quite frankly the S.7 isn't...
So YD206 about a month old. Was connected to official yota charger (via a magnetic usb cable), noticed the plug at the phone end getting quite hot. Phone now essentially dead, wont boot, doesn't seem to charge. We also realised the charger had come out of the wall socket. But the yotaphone light was intermittently flashing on the charger.
Whilst I am inclined to blame the magnetic charging cable, is it possible for current to flow in reverse from phone to charger and essentially discharge the phone battery below acceptable levels?
Any advice on rebooting it (can't remove the battery like I would on a Samsung) so whats the procedure?
Just a follow up charger not the issue, it crashed in use and the power button became non-responsive, with the screen off, and the e-ink display on but also unresponsive. Did not turn on when connected to a charger. However when I connected it to my pc it did register in device manager as MTP device, so I knew it was still alive. Removed the sim and held the power button down for 10 seconds then it rebooted.
Hope this helps anyone else with a similar problem.
Failing that it would probably have to be left to discharge (might take a while if nothing is running) then powered back on with charger attached.
I have similar problem. My phone got hot while not charging (about 15% of battery) and crashed. Then forced reboot (hold power button for about 10 seconds) helped while phone was connected to Yota charger, battery was dead, but phone booted (EPD on, did not check rest) and got to about 81%. After removing it from charger, same thing happened again, no luck with forced reboot this time. Phone was blazing hot and did not respond, then crashed again. No response after connecting charger or forced reboot. Any experience with this issue appreciated.
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I have similar problem. My phone got hot while not charging (about 15% of battery) and crashed. Then forced reboot (hold power button for about 10 seconds) helped while phone was connected to Yota charger, battery was dead, but phone booted (EPD on, did not check rest) and got to about 81%. After removing it from charger, same thing happened again, no luck with forced reboot this time. Phone was blazing hot and did not respond, then crashed again. No response after connecting charger or forced reboot. Any experience with this issue appreciated.
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It seems a battery issue. Have your Yotaphone a valid warranty?
casaprocida said:
It seems a battery issue. Have your Yotaphone a valid warranty?
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I am not sure about my warranty, bought it off AliExpress, I guess I could try to send it to manufacurer (i heard Russia provides repair service).
EDIT ( t + 2 days): I managed to start my Yota again. I connected it to computer and after about 5 minutes, magic happened and phone started all by itself. I will try to find out more, will update this as soon as I find something
Man, you are more lucky than me, I have a dead yotaphone lying around here. It also died after connecting it to a bad power source.
In my case it was the usb-port of a monitor.
When I checked the usb-port with a cable with a volt/amp display I saw that it was going on and off very quickly.
But so I would say be careful where you connect your yotaphone to, it does not seem to handle weird power sources all too well.
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Man, you are more lucky than me, I have a dead yotaphone lying around here. It also died after connecting it to a bad power source.
In my case it was the usb-port of a monitor.
When I checked the usb-port with a cable with a volt/amp display I saw that it was going on and off very quickly.
But so I would say be careful where you connect your yotaphone to, it does not seem to handle weird power sources all too well.
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I actually thought about burning charging circuitry a lot. I wonder, if you would be able to test wireless charging. With some luck, it is independent enough to not be affected by burning micro usb charging route (depends where high voltage safety is implemented). If this make any sense to you, please give this a try (I think IKEA is place to go, they should have working wireless chargers in their model setups) and report back. If I am wrong in any aspect, I'd appreciate any correction with explanation.
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I actually thought about burning charging circuitry a lot. I wonder, if you would be able to test wireless charging. With some luck, it is independent enough to not be affected by burning micro usb charging route (depends where high voltage safety is implemented). If this make any sense to you, please give this a try (I think IKEA is place to go, they should have working wireless chargers in their model setups) and report back. If I am wrong in any aspect, I'd appreciate any correction with explanation.
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Sorry for the late reply, did not see the quote, but it does not work with wireless charging either. I think the battery still has a lot of charge too. Thing is that the Motherboard also gets hot after a while when I try to charge it. I'm pretty sure my motherboard is dead. But I have another Yotaphone now, so maybe in the future I will test with every separable part replaced.
I use the charger from my iphone. It works great, although with the yotacharger also works well. Attention that I have a YotaPhone YD201 with Russian base and european compilation. Like I said the Iphone charger works great and doesn't warm my Yotaphone 2 . It might be a solution for your problems with charging.
I recently switched using to pro3 from max2. I have a small problem, now i found twice that the phone was completely turned off in the morning.
The charging cable was connected in both cases. I could turn it on by pressing power button few seconds. Than Android boots normally. But normal pressing the button does not turn on screen. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor (forgot)
Also, charging light was off even though the charger was connected. After boot, the charge was 100%
I am using LineageOS 15.1, but I remember seeing a scheduled turn off setting in EUI before switching. Can it be that I forgot the setting on before installing LineageOS. Can that option stick between OS changes? I assumed it should set something in processor to be able to wake phone up from total shutdown?
Were you using the stock charger?
I had issues with a stock charger shutting down the phone overnight I got one good and one bad one. Great phone but the chargers and USB chord are lousy quality. There are a lot of complaints about faulty chargers and USB chord's and lots of replacement recommendations in other Post's
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I recently switched using to pro3 from max2. I have a small problem, now i found twice that the phone was completely turned off in the morning.
The charging cable was connected in both cases. I could turn it on by pressing power button few seconds. Than Android boots normally. But normal pressing the button does not turn on screen. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor (forgot)
Also, charging light was off even though the charger was connected. After boot, the charge was 100%
I am using LineageOS 15.1, but I remember seeing a scheduled turn off setting in EUI before switching. Can it be that I forgot the setting on before installing LineageOS. Can that option stick between OS changes? I assumed it should set something in processor to be able to wake phone up from total shutdown?
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Try with diffrent charger and cable.
yurtesen said:
I recently switched using to pro3 from max2. I have a small problem, now i found twice that the phone was completely turned off in the morning.
The charging cable was connected in both cases. I could turn it on by pressing power button few seconds. Than Android boots normally. But normal pressing the button does not turn on screen. I didn't try the fingerprint sensor (forgot)
Also, charging light was off even though the charger was connected. After boot, the charge was 100%
I am using LineageOS 15.1, but I remember seeing a scheduled turn off setting in EUI before switching. Can it be that I forgot the setting on before installing LineageOS. Can that option stick between OS changes? I assumed it should set something in processor to be able to wake phone up from total shutdown?
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Don"t charge overnight with stock cable.
Although the phone was connected to charger when this happened, I don't understand why you would think that the problem is the charger or cable?
In either case, it happened with 2 different chargers with different cables in different rooms connected to different power outlets. I use the same chargers to charge another Pro3 and also I used them with my old Max2 and nothing like this happened ever with those phones.
Today it happened again and before I restarted the phone I connected it to PC and PC finds the phone as `Qualcomm HS-USB QDLoader 9008` but I am not sure how and why it would go into this mode by itself? Is there a way to debug how phone entered that state?
It's well known that the stock cable can cause various issues, along with burned ports and unexplained shutdowns. The official LeEco forum is gone, but there WERE posts regarding this issue and pictures back in 2016-17.
I guess you weren't on this subforum back in those days, so you missed out on the various warnings. Darkobas and Code suggested that we NOT use them. Users ignored such warnings and as a result their phones stopped functioning properly. This is is very YMMV. Though it's not worth the risk.
You're not the first that has experienced issues, nor are you the last.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/how-to/guide-unbrick-le-pro3-tested-t3622340
https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/im-trying-to-unbrick-x720-qfil-pc-wont-t3779826
@Ace42 Firstly, how will cable cause phone to shut itself down? (actually, as we know now it was in some Qualcomm QDLoader device mode). Can you explain it technically?
I heard about those rumors about cables. To be honest, it feels like somebody was trying to spread FUD. I have bought two max2 phones and four pro3 phones and the cables were perfectly fine. Also a friend of mine bought one max2 and he had no problems either. But I have many cables and chargers because I like to have redundancy and easy access to charger in any room. So I use other cables and chargers. Had no problems with any yet. I am an engineer and monitor the performance of everything I use very carefully. Those cables perform up to specs so far.
Perhaps competitors of LeEco tried to cause panic. Then some people who do not have the necessary information or engineering data blindly suggest something which they can't be blamed for. I have seen it this many times. If you can tell that cable can be used or shouldn't be used, it is 100% safe to tell not use it
Other phones that rely on QC3.0/4.0, such as the LG G6 and Razer phone charge at about half the speed (1800-2100mA). The Pro 3, with the stock charger, will charge well over 3200mA throughout (0-100). It's running out of spec, and not in line with other QC phones.
The Razer, according to owners on XDA, will start over 3000 (until it hits 25%). Once it gets there the rate is effectively cut in half. Again, the Pro 3 will continue to hit 3000-4000 after 25%, and G6 has a constant 1800mA rate. So Samsung and LG phones from the SD82x era shipped phones that charge around 1500-2xxxmA. For some reason the Pro from the same year is much, much faster.
Also if you ask Darkobas (former dev), he'll mention proprietary code for the stock charger. So it's not the same as using Samsung's adaptive charger, or literally any other QC compliant charger. For whatever reason it's able to fry ports (which could be due to cheap parts in the phone), cause the phone to **** off, and initiate QFIL mode.
The last one isn't crazy actually. You can brick an Essential phone by using the stock cable. Now as you mentioned, the phone goes into a special mode (which is unheard of on other devices). That reminds me of these factory cords.
https://www.xda-developers.com/build-your-own-kindle-fire-factory-cable/
https://www.androidauthority.com/essential-phone-usb-c-cable-831817/
What I still don't know is where the problem exists. Is it the phone's board, USB cord, or something else? That's the real mystery.
You raised an interesting point by mentioning competitors. However, I'd rather not take the risk. You're better off using another charger instead of giving yourself a headache.
For the record, before when I most of the time left my phone charged overnight, it would still run fine with stock EUI. Now with custom ROM, this dreaded issue is happening consistently. You won't be able to turn on the phone unless you plug it back and hold the power button for 30 sec or so. And yes I am using the stock charger and cable. No burn in so far since Oct. 2016.
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For the record, before when I most of the time left my phone charged overnight, it would still run fine with stock EUI. Now with custom ROM, this dreaded issue is happening consistently. You won't be able to turn on the phone unless you plug it back and hold the power button for 30 sec or so. And yes I am using the stock charger and cable. No burn in so far since Oct. 2016.
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Galactic Stryder and Darkobas worked on supporting the stock charger. It requires additional work.
"Regarding issues with QC 3.0, beware that it has a throttle down mechanism when battery reaches ~40°C it limits input to 2,5Ah and also that it can reach 4,0Ah maximum up to 80% only if the battery temperature is below the threshold for safety zone.
This is the only Kernel using LeEco's charging mechanism with proper safety checks in a minimal manner for ZL1, of course the HW itself can adjust input even without the OEM code in place but it would be a risk to fallback on it without those simple checks.[/QUOTE] - Galactic
Running into this issue too now I'm running aicp, so I guess it's dangerous to use stock charger with these ROMs?
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Other phones that rely on QC3.0/4.0, such as the LG G6 and Razer phone charge at about half the speed (1800-2100mA). The Pro 3, with the stock charger, will charge well over 3200mA throughout (0-100). It's running out of spec, and not in line with other QC phones.
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Actually, you are very wrong. Because laws of physics does not allow you to charge li-ion battery with same speed between 0% to 100%. Because the charger can't raise the voltage over 4.35V. Thats why qualcomm always put out figures of 0 to 80% when talking about quick charge. After ~80% charging process will slow down whether you like it or not.
You have spectacularly failed to explain why a cable can technically cause this issue on this phone. I recommend you to first try to understand why something is happening instead of quoting random people's thoughts. There is no guarantee that the people you quote know what they are talking about to begin with....
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Running into this issue too now I'm running aicp, so I guess it's dangerous to use stock charger with these ROMs?
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No reason to be worried, stock charger has nothing to do with this issue. Also stock charger works perfectly fine. @Ace42 simply does not know what he is talking about. Spreading FUD, you know?
Actually, in my device I even limited maximum charge voltage to 4.2V (only charge up till 84%) and it still turns itself off sometimes when connected to charger, even when the phone stops charging, also with different chargers and cables. Even with USB-PD chargers with type-c outputs and type-c to type-c cables. This clearly tells me that the issue is nothing to do with charger or charging voltages or charging speed, or cable. Also here it was mentioned that this did not exist with EUI and somebody who used LOS 14 says he didn't have it until he upgraded -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/los-15-1-zl1-leeco-pro-3-x720-shutting-t3846441
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No reason to be worried, stock charger has nothing to do with this issue. Also stock charger works perfectly fine. @Ace42 simply does not know what he is talking about. Spreading FUD, you know?
Actually, in my device I even limited maximum charge voltage to 4.2V (only charge up till 84%) and it still turns itself off sometimes when connected to charger, even when the phone stops charging, also with different chargers and cables. Even with USB-PD chargers with type-c outputs and type-c to type-c cables. This clearly tells me that the issue is nothing to do with charger or charging voltages or charging speed, or cable. Also here it was mentioned that this did not exist with EUI and somebody who used LOS 14 says he didn't have it until he upgraded -> https://forum.xda-developers.com/le-pro3/help/los-15-1-zl1-leeco-pro-3-x720-shutting-t3846441
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thats me who was mentioned upgrading from LOS 14.1. I have a detailed description of my issue in the thread that was linked above.
never had any problems with the stock charger. And my phone turns off when i am not using it for several hours, unrelated to it charging or not.
seems to be related to deep sleep I guess?
I have exactly the same problem. The phone turns off twice a week twice a week. An alarm does not work. Daughter is late to work .