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Xoom Wifi Throughput?

Has anyone tested the wifi throughput?
Stand a couple meters away from your router. Connect to your LAN and do a 100MB file copy. What do you get for xfer speed (not the link rate)?
(Oh, and don't cover up the Xoom antenna next to left speaker.)
Let me know if you're connected using 2.4GHz or 5GHz, 20MHz or 40MHz, and your router model #.
I'm curious if the Xoom can handle 720p streaming, assuming a decent wifi signal of course. Most laptops can, but handhelds generally have worse wifi reception.

it's about 36Mbps.
sorry,can not post URL on the forum.
ttp://img5.pcpop.com/ArticleImages/500x375/1/1856/001856136.jpg
(add ‘h' at the beginning,and you will see the data.)
original archive is @ ttp://www.anandtech.com/show/4191/motorola-xoom-review-first-honeycomb-tablet-arrives/13

Thanks for the link. The article refers to the number as the peak rate, which frankly isn't very useful. I'm more interested in the sustained rate (for video streaming). It also mentioned the Xoom as having 2.4GHz (only), while the Xoom's Broadcom BCM4329, same as used in the iPad, is dual-band capable. It would be good to ascertain if the Xoom can or can't use the 5GHz band. Reports on here have been mixed.
From the iFixit teardown,
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Motorola-Xoom-Teardown/4989/2
the wifi microstrip antenna used does look to be more robust than the typical. Given that it's easily moddable, I'm curious if there's enough space for a higher-gain PIFA antenna element. Any wifi hackers here?

Why wouldn't the Xoom be able to handle 720p streaming? We are talking 5mbps for a very high quality 720p as a bitrate. Pretty sure it can handle that without a problem. My phone streams 720p without a problem. The iPad does as well.
The average bitrate for my 720p videos is around 3500kbps. The highest I have seen is 7000kbps in my Planet Earth clip.
I am absolutely sure the Xoom can handle the streaming aspect of your question.

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Xoom Hdmi to dvi output not working. Blank screen.

I have a micro hdmi to full hdmi that i use for my xoom and evo to connect ot my 65inch tv. It works great and I love it but in my bed room i have a 30 inch tv and it only has dvi input. So i bought a hdmi to dvi adaptor and was so happy to get it and my luck it doesnt work. The tv doesnt detect the input and says its not active. I got the tv to display the xoom a few times but the tv pops up a box saying Signal test...which is what it does when there is no signal/input. I tried to plug it into my monitor with the dvi adaptor and the screen is blank. Really makes me sad i was so exited. I pluged my evo into the cable with the dvi adaptor and it does work so im not sure why the Xoom is having issues. I also plugged in my laptop into the tv with a full hdmi cable and used the dvi adaptor and it worked perfectly. Not sure if anyone else has the same issues. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Alex

xRepinsSporx said:
I have a micro hdmi to full hdmi that i use for my xoom and evo to connect ot my 65inch tv. It works great and I love it but in my bed room i have a 30 inch tv and it only has dvi input. So i bought a hdmi to dvi adaptor and was so happy to get it and my luck it doesnt work. The tv doesnt detect the input and says its not active. I got the tv to display the xoom a few times but the tv pops up a box saying Signal test...which is what it does when there is no signal/input. I tried to plug it into my monitor with the dvi adaptor and the screen is blank. Really makes me sad i was so exited. I pluged my evo into the cable with the dvi adaptor and it does work so im not sure why the Xoom is having issues. I also plugged in my laptop into the tv with a full hdmi cable and used the dvi adaptor and it worked perfectly. Not sure if anyone else has the same issues. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Alex
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Does that TV display 1080p? The Xoom will mirror itself in 1080P - If that TV cant handle it, it wont display it. Most old school 30 inchers are 720p max

Flaunt77 said:
Does that TV display 1080p? The Xoom will mirror itself in 1080P - If that TV cant handle it, it wont display it. Most old school 30 inchers are 720p max
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really it has to be 1080p. prob no way currently to lower that :/ grr I really need it to work but not at the price of a new tv. Thanks for the help. hopefully someone can get it to work. wish i new more about it.

xRepinsSporx said:
really it has to be 1080p. prob no way currently to lower that :/ grr I really need it to work but not at the price of a new tv. Thanks for the help. hopefully someone can get it to work. wish i new more about it.
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To be honest, if its working fine with the cable on another TV;
then its either the adapter or the TV input - but the most logical explanation, is that the TV cannot display 1080p.
Currently there is no way to scale down the mirroring - maybe in the future tho!

its strange because I can get the tv to show the xoom sometimes but i get that test box floating around even tho i can see the image. so it works kindof. little zoomed in and no way to disable the test feature. Really sucks because that was one of the main reasons I liked the xoom so much. wanted to play my N64 emulator on my tv from my bed lol. Tv was free so cant complain i guess. Just need to save for a newer one.

Pretty sure the output is 720p. It doesn't upscale.. it chops off the bottom to fit 1280x720.
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xRepinsSporx said:
to connect ot my 65inch tv.
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Is that all

No that's the one in my office. 70 in my living room. 5 inches makes a difference.......that's what she said. Sorry I had to
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Just spent all my money on a HD projector and the xoom so might have to wait for the bedroom TV...wall to small for projector in bedroom so it goes it the media room. Just need a nice media server for it. Haven't found one I like yet
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Ive been trying to do this too and have discovered why its not working. Basically the Xoom does not output the required 5 volts needed to project the signal through the DVI adapter and onto the monitor. The only way around this is to add the 5 volts the best way I can see to do this is to purchase this (or something similar, I'm pretty sure there is a US made equivalent):
http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=PS1DVI

5V Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Converters
Here is a nice one from Monoprice that also supplies the required 5 volts.
Go to Monoprice.com and search for:
Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Converters
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Mini DisplayPort | to DVI (2 DVI Output) Converter
This video converter lets you connect your Mac or other computer with Mini DisplayPort or Thunderbolt data port to a pair of high-resolution DVI displays!
The MMP-MDMP2D01 converter uses the Mini DisplayPort input standard, which can also be used on computers with the newer Thunderbolt data port. The converter then sends the video output to two DVI+I (digital only) displays at resolutions up to 1920x1080p.
By using HDMI circuitry, the converter supports full HDMI High Speed capabilities, including 225 MHz/2.25 Gbps per channel bandwidth (6.75 Gbps total) and 12-bit per channel (36-bit total) deep color modes. The unit comes complete with a 33" Mini DisplayPort M/M cable and a 5 VDC AC adapter (US and Canadian UL listed).

[Q]Will the Ouya support regular AV-out in addition to HDMI?

Since the Ouya only has Ethernet, AC, USB and HDMI. Will it be possible to connect to a standard TV by RCA connector or by a scart?AV? VGA? Composite?

Hi, so far the Ouya isn't known to produce analog video signals, only digital (via the HDMI out) thus, to use it with a analog tv you would either need a video amplifier (with HDMI in and AV-Out) or a signal convertor.
If you currently don't have one of those then I would suggest buying a HD-TV as the two methods I advised you of would cost at least $100 anyway.

I'm assume you mean composite or component, and RCA stereo audio output. If so, Ouya has only stated HDMI.
As the above said, you would need an digital to analog converter. An amplifier wouldn't help you in this situation. Unfortunately, you'll spend more on the converter than you would the Ouya. Well, maybe you can find an old used FuryHD for $100 to handle video. There are other issues you have to take into account such as will the converter tweak the signal to make sure your TV will accept it is a big one.
I had to go that route when I setup a home theater PC, and my HDTV predated DVI; it only had component HD input, but the HTPC had display port. I got an HDFury2, which just came out, and ran about $250 at the time. That was cheaper than buying a new good quality 55" HDTV.
Hopefully that was helpful.

Thanks for the information guys, look like I will just pick up a cheap Hd TV.
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you have a lot choices depending on the size you want.

[Q] Amazon Instant Video

The two Player deal breakers for me are (1) no gigabit wired support and more importantly (2) no Amazon Instant Video support. Is it true that there will be no simple way to watch Amazon Instant Video on the Player? If true, the Fire TV is the overwhelming winner.

If it runs android, Amazon has a new instant video app, which should be able to be sideloaded.

What do you need gigabit wired ethernet for? What are you watching that takes more than 100Mbps?

Oh, thanks for giving me a better understanding between these! At the moment I have google chrome cast xD

xBIGREDDx said:
What do you need gigabit wired ethernet for? What are you watching that takes more than 100Mbps?
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For my NAS drive that provides all my DLNA needs, I've got some beefy files on there with very high bitrates. That said, they play plenty smooth over my Wireless AC or N network. The problem I run into is FF and RW. The rebuffering's a little ridiculous. But, I also have my house wired with gigabit switches and networked in all my rooms. The seeking options are no longer a problem for me on the ADT-1. Not a true 1:1 experience to the Nexus Player, but I'd be willing to bet it's pretty darn close.

BEWARE of FireTV 2

FireTV 2 gave up its Digital Optical output in favor of a MicroSD card slot. This means legacy equipment equipment without HDMI inputs are not supported. Further if you have a AV device that does accept HDMI input but DOES NOT have Dolby Digital Plus Decoding, Neflix will be silent as its sound is DD+. You can downcode it Stereo in Netflix settings but no more 5.1 Surround.
The good news is that NEW Roku now has a Digital Optical output. Roku lost a lot customers last year to FireTV over this issue. Now Amazon has shot themselves in the foot and sending them, at least me, back to Roku.

Totally agree, one of the negative things in this new FireTV 2nd Gen., is the lack of Digital Optical output in favor of a MicroSD card slot.
But maybe we could use the following Audio Adapter/Audio Extractor :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RQ41KK2/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2BUXD0L1W5AKG
I personally have not tested this adapter, so I am not sure if it is compatible or not with the HDMI Output of the new FireTV units !
Others things that Amazon should have updated in this new FireTV (2nd Gen) are :
- USB 3.0, instead of only USB 2.0.
– Gigabit Ethernet, instead of Only 100mbit ethernet.
– HDMI 2.0, because Only HDMI 2.0 can pass 60Hz for 4k, and the New FireTV only comes with HDMI 1.4 that can only passes 4k at 30Hz.
- 4K at 60fps (not only 4K at 30fps), but it will need to have the HDMI 2.0
- More Memory internal memory 3-4GB instead of the current 2GB, and 16-32GB of storage memory instead of the current 8GB.
- NTFS support for external storage, instead of only FAT32.
However, I must say in favor of the FireTV, that although the Nvidia Shield already have some of the above features, is also true that it cost twice than the fireTV US$200.00 !

ulises.rodriguez said:
Totally agree, one of the negative things in this new FireTV 2nd Gen., is the lack of Digital Optical output in favor of a MicroSD card slot.
But maybe we could use the following Audio Adapter/Audio Extractor :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RQ41KK2/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2BUXD0L1W5AKG
I personally have not tested this adapter, so I am not sure if it is compatible or not with the HDMI Output of the new FireTV units !
Others things that Amazon should have updated in this new FireTV (2nd Gen) are :
- USB 3.0, instead of only USB 2.0.
– Gigabit Ethernet, instead of Only 100mbit ethernet.
– HDMI 2.0, because Only HDMI 2.0 can pass 60Hz for 4k, and the New FireTV only comes with HDMI 1.4 that can only passes 4k at 30Hz.
- 4K at 60fps (not only 4K at 30fps), but it will need to have the HDMI 2.0
- More Memory internal memory 3-4GB instead of the current 2GB, and 16-32GB of storage memory instead of the current 8GB.
- NTFS support for external storage, instead of only FAT32.
However, I must say in favor of the FireTV, that although the Nvidia Shield already have some of the above features, is also true that it cost twice than the fireTV US$200.00 !
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I had no idea all those things were lacking. when i heard 4k i had not idea they didnt put hdmi 2.0..... i cant think of any other produt thats been recently released that still runs on hdmi 1.4

ulises.rodriguez said:
Totally agree, one of the negative things in this new FireTV 2nd Gen., is the lack of Digital Optical output in favor of a MicroSD card slot.
But maybe we could use the following Audio Adapter/Audio Extractor :
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00RQ41KK2/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2BUXD0L1W5AKG
I personally have not tested this adapter, so I am not sure if it is compatible or not with the HDMI Output of the new FireTV units !
Others things that Amazon should have updated in this new FireTV (2nd Gen) are :
- USB 3.0, instead of only USB 2.0.
– Gigabit Ethernet, instead of Only 100mbit ethernet.
– HDMI 2.0, because Only HDMI 2.0 can pass 60Hz for 4k, and the New FireTV only comes with HDMI 1.4 that can only passes 4k at 30Hz.
- 4K at 60fps (not only 4K at 30fps), but it will need to have the HDMI 2.0
- More Memory internal memory 3-4GB instead of the current 2GB, and 16-32GB of storage memory instead of the current 8GB.
- NTFS support for external storage, instead of only FAT32.
However, I must say in favor of the FireTV, that although the Nvidia Shield already have some of the above features, is also true that it cost twice than the fireTV US$200.00 !
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The gizmos don't work. DD+ requires either a chip or firmware to decode it. The gizmo's will pass sound but down-code it to stereo. There is a box out there for a few hundred that does do it. I haven't paid any attention to this for a year but Sono's couldn't handle DD= either back then.
I'm kind of thinking Tivo Bolt and ditching DirecTV. Since I'm trapped in the Carolina deluge and bored, I went up into the attic and traced to RG-6 runs to assure I could put an antenna up there. Took up a little mini-TV and it could a get a few stations.
Time to cut the cord. Tivo Bolt does 4K, has Digital Optical, accepts a "cable card" or OTA, and has a I 1TB HD. Their commercial skipping software sounds too good to believe. Downside is $400 but that's less than three months DTV.

schneid, you also could check the following links, where you will find more detailed information and also comparison of the New Fire-TV (2nd Gen) versus the Fire-TV (1st Gen) :
https://developer.amazon.com/public...re-tv/docs/device-and-platform-specifications
http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-announces-new-fire-tv-with-4k-ultra-hd-and-alexa-voice-control/
http://www.aftvnews.com/benchmark-comparison-of-1st-2nd-generation-fire-tv/
http://www.aftvnews.com/the-new-4k-...-interface-or-4k-apps-and-thats-a-good-thing/

schneid said:
The gizmos don't work. DD+ requires either a chip or firmware to decode it. The gizmo's will pass sound but down-code it to stereo. There is a box out there for a few hundred that does do it. I haven't paid any attention to this for a year but Sono's couldn't handle DD= either back then.
I'm kind of thinking Tivo Bolt and ditching DirecTV. Since I'm trapped in the Carolina deluge and bored, I went up into the attic and traced to RG-6 runs to assure I could put an antenna up there. Took up a little mini-TV and it could a get a few stations.
Time to cut the cord. Tivo Bolt does 4K, has Digital Optical, accepts a "cable card" or OTA, and has a I 1TB HD. Their commercial skipping software sounds too good to believe. Downside is $400 but that's less than three months DTV.
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I think you may only be partially correct about the "gizmo" referred to by the poster. It claims that it will output AC-3 (DD 5.1), but don't know if it will extract the AC-3 signal from the DD+ signal to pass to optical (I doubt it).
And, even if the FTV2 had SP/DIF output, it would still not be able to do DD+ as this requires at least an HDMI 1.3 connection.

wunderdrug said:
I think you may only be partially correct about the "gizmo" referred to by the poster. It claims that it will output AC-3 (DD 5.1), but don't know if it will extract the AC-3 signal from the DD+ signal to pass to optical (I doubt it).
And, even if the FTV2 had SP/DIF output, it would still not be able to do DD+ as this requires at least an HDMI 1.3 connection.
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All true. DD+ is HDMI only and requires a chip. I tried one straight-through gizmo that split off an optical feed. and Netflix output stereo. Have an five port HDMI switch with Stereo and Optical outputs. Don't work either, although the Stereo out feeds my whole-house stereo ceiling speaker system, so that was a win. Got the the stuff from Monoprice.

So I'm wondering if the FireTV1 would not be able to do 4k as well?
With HDMI 1.4 and 30fps it should work.
Probably not with h265, but with h264 most likely.
Imho the FireTV2 update is a joke.

freezer2k said:
So I'm wondering if the FireTV1 would not be able to do 4k as well?
With HDMI 1.4 and 30fps it should work.
Probably not with h265, but with h264 most likely.
Imho the FireTV2 update is a joke.
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I almost ordered it from Amazon Sunday. Glad I read of some gotchas before I clicked. For me, especially being rooted and not seeing a 4K until widely adopted, I'll stand pat. I's lose more than I'd gain.
I imagine 4k has a lot of moving parts that must move in unison. Too complicated for me.