The two Player deal breakers for me are (1) no gigabit wired support and more importantly (2) no Amazon Instant Video support. Is it true that there will be no simple way to watch Amazon Instant Video on the Player? If true, the Fire TV is the overwhelming winner.
If it runs android, Amazon has a new instant video app, which should be able to be sideloaded.
What do you need gigabit wired ethernet for? What are you watching that takes more than 100Mbps?
Oh, thanks for giving me a better understanding between these! At the moment I have google chrome cast xD
xBIGREDDx said:
What do you need gigabit wired ethernet for? What are you watching that takes more than 100Mbps?
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For my NAS drive that provides all my DLNA needs, I've got some beefy files on there with very high bitrates. That said, they play plenty smooth over my Wireless AC or N network. The problem I run into is FF and RW. The rebuffering's a little ridiculous. But, I also have my house wired with gigabit switches and networked in all my rooms. The seeking options are no longer a problem for me on the ADT-1. Not a true 1:1 experience to the Nexus Player, but I'd be willing to bet it's pretty darn close.
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I bought an HDMI cable today so I can put Netflix onto my TV. I have an older HDTV, from 2004. It's a Panasonic model number pt-47x54j. When I plug my tablet into it, the little Android dude pops up onto the TV and and says 720p? I checked the owners manual and it says that the TV is only capable of 1080i, or 480p and 480i. I plugged my tablet into a more modern HDTV and it works just fine. Crystal Clear. Is there any way that I can get my a500 to work on my Panasonic TV? Attached is a screenshot of my TV's owner's manual on the page where it talks about HDMI inputs. Thanks in advance...
From the best of my knowledge you can't change this.Athens beat solution I could offer is Logitech Google TV.it rocks.and 70.00 amazon.
It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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From the best of my knowledge you can't change this.Athens beat solution I could offer is Logitech Google TV.it rocks.and 70.00 amazon.
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It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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Thanks. At this point, I'm just using my tablet to watch the movies on. That's good enough for me. Once my TVs start breaking and/or if I get this dream job that I'm currently chasing after, I'm going to get a more modern TV and all of my HDMI cable worries will go away. I put the Netflix App on my phone too. My 3 year old freaking loves it!! He is always asking for my phone to watch cartoons on. It's hilarious. haha
Of course, I'm still going to try to figure this crap out with my current TV. That's the fun part.
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It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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micro HDMI itself is capable of 1080p, but the tablet will only output 1080p if there's a 1080p stream (such as a 1080p movie). Netflix will not do 1080p, though.
I bought my Note 10.1 not long ago and after i played around a lot, rooted it and made it a german Note (it came from switzerland, no software updates available).
I thought, i can connect a mouse, a keyboard, USB drives .. but to get a video signal to my monitor, i would need the HDMI adapter for 18€ (which is much for a port that is native on most android tablets) which would block out USB devices OR i would buy the Allshare cast for 60€, which is wireless. I even planned to use it as windows alternative. Anyway, there are not much reviews about it that match my opinion after i used it for 15 minutes.
Out of the box, everything is great. I connect it to my 27" Asus PC screen (i was surprised they incuded a HDMI cable!), it starts by itself - huh, no separate switch to turn it off? No, there is not. It's always on. At least the LED doesn't shine as bright as the sun.
After that, i connected the Note 10.1 with it. I recorded for you what happens next:
Yup, that's right. Every Multiwindow availability disappears. From that point, it was almost certain i would send it back. But that's still not everything, i have ~15-20 FPS when scrolling through my homescreens and app drawer! Also there is ~0,1 - 0,2s of lag between the Note's screen and my Asus. I think videos work fine, i had only Simpsons on the Note and i can't really tell the FPS by that.
And the last part: The image quality is lousy. My 27" has only FullHD which is approximately half the DPI of the Note 10.1. But it has artefacts (it kind of compresses the colors i think; i tried to make pictures but you can't really see anything on it) which makes the image look so bad that i could instantly decide that i would send it back.
Probably i made someone the decision easier whether to buy it or not. I will buy the HDMI cable, have a look at the image quality and if it's worth it (and only then) i will keep it and probably buy a bluetooth keyboard + mouse so i can try again to use it as desktop replacement.
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Out of the box, everything is great. I connect it to my 27" Asus PC screen (i was surprised they incuded a HDMI cable!), it starts by itself - huh, no separate switch to turn it off? No, there is not. It's always on. At least the LED doesn't shine as bright as the sun.
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I use the AllShare Cast dongle a lot; especially when I'm traveling. It performs pretty well but the weaker the Wi-Fi connection the more latency is introduced. I have no problems using the web or watching videos on hotel TVs when I'm traveling with good performance about 90% of the time. I've used the HTC Media Link HD dongle which does the same thing the Samsung dongle does. There's far less latency between the device and the dongle on Samsung's solution, it's easier to connect, and the HTC dongle has no on or off switch either.
Yup, that's right. Every Multiwindow availability disappears.
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AllShare Cast uses a lot of resources on the device. I'm guessing that's why they disabled multiview which also uses a lot of resources on the device.
And the last part: The image quality is lousy.
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Here are two clips of video playing via AllShare. The first is Hulu the second is YouTube. That means the device is downloading content via Wi-Fi and then projecting it out again via Wi-Fi to the dongle which is a lot more resource intensive than just playing local content. You’ll see the videos (both HD) play with no problem. I haven't had any issues (provided the Wi-Fi signal's decent) watching video from any number of sources. There's an update for the dongle in Play. Have you applied it?
Hmm, I also have the AllShare Cast dongle and I connect it with a Sony Bravia tv with excellent result, granted I limit its usage to playing locally stored video content but I have played some YouTube videos as well in HD mode with superb picture quality. I sit too far away from the tv to use it as an alternate screen but I suppose it might be possible.
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Yes, the update is installed. i didn't mean to compare the dongle to the HTC one, it's just that for my expectations the dongle did really bad. For pure multimedia purpose it would be not as bad as i experienced (the helicopter demo video ran smoothly), but i couldn't do anything to get higher FPS in android. I could even neglect the lag and a BIT of the bad image quality.
If i would only want to watch videos on the TV streamed with the Note, the Allcast Dongle would do fine but then i could use the HDMI cable, too - a bit less comfy, but 40€ cheaper than the dongle.
The dongle however is a lot more convenient than a cable. You can walk around with your tablet or sit quite a distance from the screen.
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hilarious! why would I want LESS multi-tasking capability on a BIGGER screen?
What's the pros and cons between both of them from someone who has actual experience with them both?
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What's the pros and cons between both of them from someone who has actual experience with them both?
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The Wireless Dongle is good if you have movies converted on your phone already. It's also somewhat good for you tube videos. However if you try and stream a movie from a streaming application such as Netflix, HBO GO, or MAX GO you might see some lip-syncing. IF you use the MHL adapter everything runs and syncs smoothly for streaming. I watched the entire Game of Thrones seasons and True Blood on the MHL adapter.
Somebody saw this: http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-gamestream-a-whole-new-way-to-game
Looks incredible. Console mode allows to put shield next to the TV and let stream from the PC - in 1080p with 60FPS.
God, that is so freaking awesome. Best buy ever. :victory:
sadly that's nothing you can't do with a long HDMI cable and steam big picture
at least is nice they are removing the beta of the streaming
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sadly that's nothing you can't do with a long HDMI cable and steam big picture
at least is nice they are removing the beta of the streaming
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Currently HDMI output only works at 720p at 30 fps AFAIK. This states 1080p at 60 fps with the update, that's something I've been looking forward to.
This, with a wireless xbox 360 controller.... I won't have to lug my tower across the house anymore when I want to game on the couch, or deal with low res and a long HDMI cable.
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Currently HDMI output only works at 720p at 30 fps AFAIK. This states 1080p at 60 fps with the update, that's something I've been looking forward to.
This, with a wireless xbox 360 controller.... I won't have to lug my tower across the house anymore when I want to game on the couch, or deal with low res and a long HDMI cable.
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Awesome update. They mention official support of the bluetooth niko gamepad and also playing with the lid closed. If the support is open for other gamepads (it should be) this is big news for future of the shield as a serious console, handheld or TV connected.
I'm really happy to own this little toy. Long life to the shield!
And the console mode give us real 1080p output outside of movie playback. So we can play all Android games in 1080p or use Shield as small PC with 1080p output.
Damn, the future for this kind of devices looks very bright now.
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Awesome update. They mention official support of the bluetooth niko gamepad and also playing with the lid closed. If the support is open for other gamepads (it should be) this is big news for future of the shield as a serious console, handheld or TV connected.
I'm really happy to own this little toy. Long life to the shield!
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Yes, many other game controllers work as well (They must support standard Bluetooth HID if they're bluetooth).
This is great news as I already have a moga pro, looks like I will be playing a lot of my PC games in the living room....wife's going to hate me haha.
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Yes, many other game controllers work as well (They must support standard Bluetooth HID if they're bluetooth).
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Awesome, was the D-PAD buttons issue during PC Streaming resolved?
And what about PS3 and XBOX controller? Android has native support of both when connected with usb cable. But both have the D-PAD issue.
The PS3 controller can be used as HID bluetooth but root is needed with the sixaxis control app.
Thanks for telling us.
I think this following app is a very good for using your Fire Tv & Airplay to take advantage of Apple's services. So what about you wish one is best in your opinion/experience.
Take a look at this video for how to enable airplay in the Fire TV:
http://youtu.be/QV31V5ZaDLA
compare to waxrain's airplay
how does this compare to Airplay/DLNA from Waxrain? I have seen waxrain's airplay and one thing i didnt like is that the movies i played from ipad got stuck and also i couldnt play any videos in full screen format, especially things like youtube. Does this app allow smooth video from iphone and youtube.
None of the airplay apps are perfect, but this one seams to perfect mirroring on the iPad or oder apple devices, if you want to stream video try AirPlay/DLNA Receiver (PRO) or Even XBMC you might have better luck.